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Wednesday Apr 30, 2008

Oscar will be seeing Floyd's face on Forbes' body on Saturday.

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Answer To Those Who Ask: "Why Forbes, Oscar?"

By Ron Borges

      In the opinion of some, Oscar De La Hoya is not fighting the right man Saturday night to prepare him for his Sept. 20 rematch with Floyd Mayweather, Jr. Well then, exactly who would that be?

      If Mayweather is what most people in boxing think then nobody can truly prepare you to fight him. Not Steve Forbes and not anybody else. That being the case, De La Hoya is doing the right thing to the best of one’s ability, which is to say he’s fighting somebody before he takes on Mayweather a second time.

      A year ago he faced the pound-for-pound best fighter in the world after a 364 day layoff. While it may be unclear how best to prepare for Mayweather, it’s obvious how not to prepare for him – which is to take a year off.

      Timing is everything in boxing. This is especially true with someone as fast, quick, defensive-minded and ring savvy as Mayweather. Anything that can slow you down, either mentally or physically, will haunt you badly if you’re in with Mayweather and spending a year on vacation is one of those things.

     So regardless of how one views Forbes – and frankly most people give the former super featherweight champion no chance against a guy who has spent the last seven years fighting at junior middleweight and middleweight – the fact that De La Hoya is in with anyone indicates he is taking as seriously as a multi-multi-millionaire man can the challenge waiting for him five months down the road.

      What he hopes Forbes provides is a less dangerous version of Mayweather. The fact that he has only nine knockouts in 38 fights makes him safe but the fact that he’s been trained by all of the Mayweather brothers who at one point or another worked with Little Floyd makes him a laboratory test of a sort for what De La Hoya knows he’ll be up against stylistically in September.

      That doesn’t mean Forbes does anything with the speed or even the accuracy of the man who beat De La Hoya by split decision last year but he does do similar things and so there is a purpose to this exercise out at the Home Depot Center in Carson, CA. and it is to test some of what De La Hoya has been working on against a canvas that to as much of an extent as possible will remind him of Mayweather.

      “My focus is obviously Stevie Forbes but the main goal is to beat Floyd Jr. and so having that in mind, having that mindset, I’m going to be in tremendous, tremendous shape,’’ De La Hoya claimed. “We’ve been talking about my performance, my last performance, almost every day. We go through it every single day.’’

      The “we’’ De La Hoya was referring to was himself and Floyd, Jr.’s father, the mercurial Floyd Mayweather, Sr. The latter is the man who claims to have taught his son everything he knows about boxing. He is also the man who refused to train De La Hoya to beat his son – unless, of course, $2 million was on the table. In boxing, exceptions can be made even for family ties if the price is right.

      Now, apparently, it is and so he and De La Hoya are back working on this project, one that is very much a two-fight deal. The first half is Saturday’s practice run with Forbes, a fight that may make little sense to outsiders but which to the two of them is like Tony Stewart or Jeff Gordon bringing their cars in for a qualifying run at Indy before the real race on Memorial Day.

      “I’m still fighting because I want to be on top again,’’ De La Hoya said. “I’m still fighting because I want to be champion again. The competitive side of me chose this fight. The champion side of me chose this fight. Chose the trainer. I’m doing what’s best for me inside the ring.

      “I’ve been training so hard for this fight like it was the most important fight of my life. And it is! It is because I don’t feel like a champion. I’m not a champion. I feel like a contender. That’s how we’re going to fight.

      “With the Felix Sturm fight (which was supposed to be a similar tune-up before facing Bernard Hopkins) I did look past him. I did not train for him and was sluggish and slow. I didn’t feel like a winner in that fight, you know? I felt like a loser. It’s a hard lesson to learn but I’m glad it happened back then instead of now because I’m ready to have a big year this year.’’

      To do that he first has to have a big night at Forbes’ expense because to do anything less will be to defeat the purpose. Fighting Forbes is a two-pronged exercise. First De La Hoya wants exposure to some of what he will face stylistically from Mayweather and test out ways to negate it against Forbes. Second, he wants to work on some of the things he has been preparing for Mayweather to see how they fit him when the bright lights are on and if he will revert back to older, more comfortable ways in the heat of the moment.

      If things go well it guarantees De La Hoya nothing against Mayweather but if it doesn’t, it foreshadows something he’d rather not think about. What that means then is while the boxing world may be looking at this fight as little more than an afterthought, Oscar De La Hoya understands he cannot see it that way.

      “With Stevie having Floyd, Jr.’s style, not quite that similar but to a certain extent, I can work on some things,’’ De La Hoya said. “Stevie Forbes stays right in front of you. He moves his feet quite at bit and stays in the center of the ring but he’ll stay in front of you and fight, too (as Mayweather sometimes does). So I think it’s going to be very beneficial when I step inside that ring with Steve. This fight is going to benefit me a lot.’’

      It better because that’s the reason he took it.

      Forget all the palaver about giving back to the fans by bringing the fight to L.A. with reasonably priced tickets, although that was a nice gesture. Forget the stuff about fighting on free (as in non-pay-per-view) HBO as another way to reward loyal boxing followers, although that’s something viewers with thinning checkbooks may appreciate.

      Forget all of that because Oscar De La Hoya is fighting Steve Forbes for one reason and one reason only. He’s fighting him for himself. He’s fighting him because he believes it will help him beat Floyd Mayweather, Jr. on Sept. 20. Frankly, that’s reason enough to suit me.



Robert Curtis:  De la Hoya seems to have every edge here and is all set to exploit them. That's the way bullies operate in the schoolyard. He wants to practice on a Mini-Floyd and admits this if you listen and read close. That's why he's not charging PPV. He knows that it's a glorified sparring session against a low risk opponent. Any ring practice is better than none, of course. It's certainly better to fight and train rather than take long lay-offs. But the size difference bothers me. This jump in weight is huge for Forbes. Oscar will be able to muscle and bully him around in ways that he could never get away with when fighting Floyd Jr. And if Oscar gets frustrated, that's just what he'll do. He'll forget to use the jab too. This fight bugs me and I sure hope it's not as easy for Oscar as he expects. With only nine KOs out of 38 fights in a lower weight class, it's unlikely Steve Forbes can hold his ground and drop the golden Goliath. But it would sure be some sweet poetry if it happened.
Thursday May 1, 2008
rudy:  Cinco de Mayo weekend has usually been huge for boxing, this year we get what you would normally see in a gym. Way to save/improve boxing Oscar.......
Thursday May 1, 2008
Arturo:  Most people disagree with Oscar's opponents for the next two fights. He is the biggest name in boxing and a lot of people are watching his every move(in and out of the ring). I hate the fact on the rematch taking place later this year.But we as fans gave him the power to be who he is , I remember watching almost his entire career since the last match in the Olympics. He had potential to be a great fighter but after the Trinidad fight his career started to go down(not financially). Hopefully he can revive it in the 3 fights, cause he will be a big dissapointment to his fans if he doesn't .
Thursday May 1, 2008
Adrian:  For 3 million; would Floyd Sr teach Oscar to knock Floyd out..maybe for 4, he'd tie Floyd Jr's shoelaces surreptitiously during the fight. Seems awfully mercenary.
Thursday May 1, 2008
Radam G:  There is only one Money May. He is peerless. Stevie Forbes is no version of him. Golden Boy is delusional to believe this. And he doesn't. This is a Golden Boy Promotion plot to fool paying butts into those seats -- come September. Don't forget that Oscar is now a full-time boxing promoter and a-when-I-feel-like-it boxer. A promoter lies to himself and everybody else infinite more time than a boxer does. Oscar should hook up with Don King's hairdresser. Matter of fact, the more I see Oscar, the more his hair-do is pointing upward. I guess that it's trying to contact Don King's governmental Hair Satellite for the art of ripping off fans, boxers and talking rubbish bull. "Only in America!" Holla!
Thursday May 1, 2008
Yuvie:  I like how they're saying Forbes is similar in style to Mayweather and this is why he's taking the match. Come on, are we suppose to believe that? He's already fought Mayweather once, he should know what sort of style to prepare for. What a pointless couple of matches. If this is what we can expect from the P4P no. 1 then forget about him, I don't wanna see him fight anymore if all he can do is regurgitate opponents he's already beat with ease. As for Oscar, he needs to retire. I've had about enough of him acting like he's the jesus christ of boxing. Even on a promotianal level, Arum has a better stable than Goldenboy anyway. Look at the way they're cockin around with their talent like Guzman and then there's the shady scoring in goldenboy matches. Add the buying of the ring and it seems like we really have someone trying to play god.
Thursday May 1, 2008
Robert Curtis:  With fights like these, pretty soon the middle and welterweight classes will be as much of a joke as the heavyweights. Pretty soon? What am I saying? It's already a running joke with a new punchline each month. First Money fights a blown-up lightweight, then a freak giant in tights. Now Golden Boy is going to fight a little guy from reality TV whom he says is Mini-Money. Then both are going to fight each other all over again just to make the circus complete. But the real punchline comes when we get to pay for it.
Thursday May 1, 2008
Radam G:  Bob Curtis, are you trying out for a comedian show or are you just hating? Gosh, you have being tapping some fun stuff, lately. Or, just maybe, you got a hold of some good old homemade Pinoy Tuba -- coconut wine? You are staggering around TSS World like Tervor Berick (name missed) when Mike tagged him a few moons ago. Holla!
Thursday May 1, 2008
rbk:  "But the real punchline comes when we get to pay for it. " -- Don't pay for it...remember Roycott when Jones was fighting bum after bum? If Floyd continues like this we can have a 'Maycott'...
Thursday May 1, 2008
Aaron:  De La Hoya may be training harder, but he's also another year older. Remember when he fought Yorry-boy Campas? Expect a sloppier version of that, then on to lose a probably wider decision to Mayweather than last year. After that, I'm sure Cotto would like to have the name on his record, it just depends on how much dignity-need for money is left in Oscar.
Thursday May 1, 2008
lawson:  Hey BORE Ges. It's pathetic to see you drinking Oscar's Kool Aid. This is a farce and everyone knows it. You're the biggest sellout yet.
Thursday May 1, 2008
Scott H:  Hey Radam. Tell peerless Floyd to fight someone in his own division, anyone. Maragarito, Coto, Clottey, even Cintron! After he beats all of these guys maybe he''ll be considered peerless. The truth is he doesn't want any of them, for obvious reasons. Someone explain that to me; how could anyone be considered a p 4 p anything unless you fight your the best of your peers. In this case the whole welterweight division. Not a blown up light weight as Curtis so astutley opined, or a washed up middleweight but fight in your class, against the best. Build a legacy, not a joke!
Thursday May 1, 2008
Eastar:  It don't matter who Floyd fights as long as he continues to win and make money. Let his "peers" fight each other for crumbs in "big" fights that do not belong on pay-per view, such as Cotto/Margarito which I'm not buying. No one else will buy it either.... Just look at the PPV numbers after the fight. Ya dig?
Friday May 2, 2008
Aficionado of Boxing:  Hey, Eastar. You can't be serious! I'll say it now so that i can have the aura of a prophet, Cotto-Margarito, Will BE the Fight of the YEAR! It's this July! And yes I am buying it! They're going to fight not dance! You will see the two best body punchers in the division go head-to-head! Why would anyone pay to see a Oscar, year and a half slower, fight Mayweather AGAIN! He (Money) keeps making money because of people like you! Who love names and not the fight game! Besides, PPV numbers does not a fight make! If we use this analogy then the DLH-PBF fight is the greatest fight of ALL-TIME !! And we know, I mean boxing fans, that there fight might not even break into the top 100! It's absurd to attempt to equate greatness with PPV numbers! These are apples and oranges ! The only people that lose on these type of fights (DLH-PBF) are the fans! On an aside, I think Floyd should fight Quintana and then Cintron before he fights Cotto. Then and only then will PBF earn the right to fight the top DOG in the welterweight division! Don't be mad, it's only the truth.
Friday May 2, 2008
Madison:  Thats right!! AFICIONADO OF BOXING!!! What you said is exactly what the fans are screaming, but boxing money makers are not listening. copy and paste that blog on HBO's front page website and every other boxing site out there!!! EASTAR, you're definitely trippin. Just think about what you said for a minute and think about the fight game and how many excellent fights have been out there that didn't break ppv records.... tons!!
Friday May 2, 2008
Radam G:  In the words of Roy Jones Jr, "Y'all musta fo'got!" It is all about money, ain't a darn thang funny! Up the moola, and Money will beatdown all these paper tramps -- I mean champs. There is just one Money May. Whupping a$$ and counting those papers is what he does! Holla!
Friday May 2, 2008
andy from newcastle:  What Mr.Eastar neglected to mention gentlemen, is that he will not be buying the Cotto Margarito PPV because by then he will have spent all his money on WWE PPV's and posters of PBF to put up on the wall of his bedroom if his mum will let him. I'm starting to think Floyd is becoming more honest about himself than his fans are, at least he admits his boxing career comes a long second to his entertainment career. After he starts the Indy 500 this year, expect an appearance in pro-celebrity golf, and probably singing the national anthem at the next Super Bowl. Where's the Don(puto) by the way? Has he gone on his hols?
Friday May 2, 2008

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