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Thursday Mar 13, 2008

Fredo had a beatable Lacy in front of him in his last outing. But the desire to turn it up a notch wasn't there. Can the desire ever be restored, or is it time to get a square-guy job?

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Peter Manfredo: Just A Reality TV Creation?

By Ron Borges

      Starting over is never easy in life. This is particularly true in prize fighting, where the road is steep and the opportunities are few.

      Friday night, in an out-of-the-way slot casino in Lincoln, Rhode Island, former world title contender and reality television product Peter Manfredo, Jr. will begin that hard climb, fighting an unknown guy in a little known place for the kind of money he’d rather not have anyone know he accepted. That is how it happens when you lose the two biggest fights of your life within eight months of each other. You start over or you roll over.

      After a heated family debate, Manfredo chose the former over the latter, convincing his father, with whom the 27-year-old super middleweight has trained for 20 years, that he remains serious about the most dangerous trade in sports. He understands where he is and how he got there. Most of all, he understands what it will take not to stay there.

      “I’m back to square one but everything happens for a reason,’’ Manfredo (28-5, 13 KO) said a few days before he is to meet a lightweight light heavyweight from South Carolina named Shane Benfield who is the kind of guy you face when you’re in Manfredo’s shoes - someone with a good record (17-1) but little else to offer up but his body.

      “After the (Joe) Calzaghe fight (which was stopped in three rounds) I wasn’t putting 100 per cent into my training. I trained for (former IBF champion Jeff) Lacy, but in the ring I didn’t have that hunger to do it.

      “I knew I could beat him but I didn’t have that desire to step it up so I blew a big opportunity. One thing about this game you can’t blame anybody but yourself. I accept that. It’s made me hungry again.’’

      Hungry enough to convince his father that it was not time to devote himself to day work, even though it was something Manfredo alarmingly suggested to him after losing the decision to a Lacy who he believes should not have beat him but did because he allowed it to happen.

      “I didn’t think he had the desire any more after the Lacy fight,’’ Peter Manfredo, Sr. said from his Rhode Island gym. “I didn’t like the way he trained for that fight. He was in shape but I needed him to train a little bit more than six weeks. I didn’t see him pushing himself any more so after he lost that fight I just felt maybe he doesn’t want to do it any more.

      “Peter’s been in the gym since he was five with me and training since he was seven. He has a lot of things in his life now. He’s made over a million dollars, which is a lot more than most guys in this game. He’s got three kids. He wants to start a business and go to work.

      “When he started talking about working (as an electrician) I told him you can’t work and box. I just felt he couldn’t do that and compete at the top level so why do it? That was my main beef with him.

      “I expect a lot of him because this isn’t tennis or basketball. This is boxing. You can be physically damaged from one punch. I don’t want him to get hurt. This is a dangerous game. I told him I didn’t think he wanted it any more and if that was the case I wasn’t going to be on board. I didn’t want to see him walking on his heels at 45 because he kept going when he didn’t really want to do it. Who wants that for his son?’’

      The two talked about the future and if there really was one in boxing for him after the loss to Lacy. They talked loudly and then they didn’t talk at all. It was a time of decision for both, a decision arrived at first by the son and then accepted by the father.

      “It was very difficult,’’ Manfredo said. “My father taught me all my life ‘You got to box, box box.’ Now all of a sudden he tells me, ‘I think you should do something else.’ I was angry about it. I was very angry with him but I took it to heart.

      “My Dad didn’t call me after we got back from the Lacy fight. Freddie (Roach, who helped prepare Manfredo for the fight at his Wild Card Gym in Hollywood) called. My uncles called. What happened to my father? I took it like the way a fan treats you. They love you when you’re on top but when you lose they don’t call.

      “It took me to call him. He told me real men talk in person and I said ‘Drop the bullshit. I’m your son.’ We were on the phone for an hour and a half. I told him ‘Dad, everybody thinks I’m rich but I got to get a job. I got three kids. My benefits cost me $1000 a month.’ He told me, ‘You can’t work and box.’

      “It got pretty heated but at the end I agreed with him. Maybe I hadn’t been giving it 100 per cent. Boxing is tough on a family man. If you’re single it’s simple. There’s nothing else to do but train. Now I get up and take the girls to school. I’m up early. ‘Who wants to go to ballet?’ You know? It’s hard to concentrate fully on boxing but we came to an agreement. I’m back where I want to be. I’m back in the ring on March 14.’’

      With him will be his father, who agreed to continue training him but admits he was watching closely early on. Boxing teaches its advocates to go by what they see not what people say. What the Father saw was a son who said he wanted to get back down to 160 pounds after a couple of fights.

      He saw a son getting up in the morning again to run without prodding. One who came to the gym in the evening like a professional. He came to work.

      “He came back and started to train like I wanted him to,’’ Manfredo, Sr. said. “He was away for a week or two after we talked. I know other people approached him about training him. He knows nobody knows him better than I do but you don’t want to be arguing with your father every night.

      “When he came back he went right to work. He wasn’t telling me (what he wanted to do), he was showing me. Dieting, running, working hard. Mentally and physically he’s ready for this. He’s in shape to do what he wants to do and he’s never backed down from a fight.

      “He’s a tough kid. A nice kid. He’s a kid people like. He can still make good money at this but he knows he has to come back and prove himself again. He’s working to do that.’’

      Working to get back to where he was just eight months ago. Back as a top 10 rated fighter but perhaps this time as a middleweight, where he feels he will have a physical advantage he lacks at 168. Back, if things go well, in the kind of place where 36-year-old Nate Campbell found himself last weekend.

      Like Manfredo, Campbell had been forced to work his way back up boxing’s slippery ladder after having lived for years on the sport’s hard edges. When his second chance came it wasn’t supposed to be a chance at all really. It was supposed to be a sacrifice on the altar to WBC lightweight champion Juan Diaz but things didn’t quite turn out that way.

      This night belonged to Nate Campbell and when it was over his hand was raised. He had made it all the way to the top after so often before having stumbled along the way. Peter Manfredo, Jr. could look at that and gain strength from it, knowing that perseverance sometimes pays off in boxing if you are true to yourself and true to a hard game.

      “There some opportunities for me out there,’’ Manfredo said. “I need to win a couple times and if I can get down to 160, which is more mental than physical, maybe I can get a fight with (John) Duddy or a title shot with (Kelly) Pavlik. I’ll take that. Lacy came down from 220 to 168. I walk around at 188, so I know if I just keep working I can get back down.

      “I know some people are interested in me because of the popularity I got from the TV show (he was a finalist on the first “Contender’’ season). Some people like to talk bad about us. They say we’re just reality TV fighters not real fighters but I would never regret having done that show.

      “Who knows where I’d be without it? You only know what happens to you. What happened to me was some people grew to love me because of The Contender, not for the fighter I was but for the Peter I was. Now I want to get back in the ring and start winning again and show them I can still fight, too.’’

      To do that, Peter Manfredo, Jr. had to decide if he wanted a day job or a night job. Once he made that decision, his father was where he’s always been since he was a skinny seven year old. He was in his corner.

      “Peter knows there are people out there who think he’s a reality TV guy who can’t win the big one,’’ his father said. “He hates that. He hates that. He’s working hard and taking this very seriously. He knows this should be an easy fight for him but this kid is coming here to try and make a name for himself at Peter’s expense. He knows what’s at stake. He can’t afford any slip ups this time. Peter’s not going to let that happen.’’



Radam G:  Peter Manfredo Jr has been a disappointment, no doubt. His problem is in the mental department. No father, no trainer, no wife, no nobody can help him with this problem but himself. Some boxers just develop that kind of mindset. It is normally impossible to bring them out of it. Holla!
Thursday Mar 13, 2008
The Watcher:  The only good thing about Peter's next fight is that it is not on TV "Thank GOD!
Thursday Mar 13, 2008
rudy:  I think it has more to do with his Pop's as his trainer, the guy was a joke. When Manfredo works with the Roach Coach he actually looks like a decent fighter who could compete with top 20 guys at Super Middle, but for whatever reason its his mindset, that fire inside a fighter is missing. He could of beat Jeff Lacy, he outboxed him for 4 rds and then just let the fight slip away. Ok fighter, who needs to find that hunger and dedication back into him, cuz he aint that bad. I'll take Manfredo any day for the Garden Flake Mora.
Thursday Mar 13, 2008
Eastar:  Even on the "Contender", where Manfredo was at his best, I could see Manfredo was not ready for the big time. He is not that talented. No superior physical attributes, no natural talent, and apparently, he does not have the work ethic outside the ring. Top it off with being a star of a nationally televised t.v. show, and you have an easy target for world class boxers who want to showcase their own skills.
Thursday Mar 13, 2008
Spinach Chin:  I had Manfredo ahead of Lacy, but the fight was awful. Manfredo and Malinaggi should no be on TV.
Thursday Mar 13, 2008
Adrian:  Manfredo lacks the physical attributes required. I just don't see him measuring up to Green or Miranda or any of the better Super Middles. At 6'3 and 6'2 Lucien Bute or Kessler would be too much to handle. Perhaps this guy should have been at super welterweight from day 1. And its not getting better, his speech was kind of slurred when he was on contender 3 and he was tossed around in sparring with the guys. He should mind his health.
Thursday Mar 13, 2008
Dan:  Correction: David Diaz is the WBC lightweight titlist, not Juan. Juan had all the rest.
Thursday Mar 13, 2008
Robert Curtis:  Time to go back to Rhode Island and be an electrician. He is indeed a Reality TV creation and even on his best days he looks half asleep. You don't have to have PBF skills to be a champ, but you do need heart and discipline. Maybe the father was part of the problem? Seemed like a real jerk on the original Contender, just the kind of loudmouth that would creep up anyone's back and cramp their ambitions. Getting your mind right is essential in any dangerous sport. You can't brood and zone out in harm's way. There's too much potential for damage and it's an awful waste of youth if you're not going to give it all the soul you have got. A true champ is rare. Some say they're born and not made. Bad dad or not, the fire starts inside.
Thursday Mar 13, 2008
donputo69:  B.U.M=BUM..
Thursday Mar 13, 2008
Nuckle:  I didn't even read all of the article all I know is he's a BUM. Boxing is more mental than anything. You can when a fight with a broken hand before you can when without heart or a right mindset.
Thursday Mar 13, 2008
jery:  Peter is special. He just haven't discovered the difference between the game of boxing and rhe sport, When he learn what boxing really is, he will be very hard to beat. He was introduced on The Contender but that doesn't define his boxing expertise. It has seemed like he is too focused on what he thinks is going on in his opponents minds. With more self awarenss and a new approach, Peter has the ability and skills to be a champ. Peter and his dad need to find some one who can teach them the boxing game and show them how it applys to the sport. I am sure Peter will change all of these negative comments made by fans.
Thursday Mar 13, 2008
FANS:  The majority of you people who have posted your opinions here seem to be the LOWEST OF THE LOW in regard to so called "boxing fans" IT IS FUNNY HOW MOST OF YOU SEEM TO THINK JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN FLICK A TV ON AND WATCH A FIGHT IT SOMEHOW MAKES YOU AN EXPERT ON THE GAME. AMAZING
Friday Mar 14, 2008
John:  Peter Manfredo is a great boxer. how can u say that any1 who had the chance 2 beat Jeff Lacy and could have is a joke........wasnt Lacy at 1 time a favorite over Joe Calzaghe. Peter is the man and he will be at the top one of these days
Tuesday Apr 22, 2008
megan:  i LOVE peter he is the SWEETEST guy ever i remember meeting him at an angel/yankee game on my birthday best birthday i ever had he is such a great boxer and is my idol when it comes to me boxing i hope to progress my boxing career like he did although i am a women i still find him a true idol to me and need i mention he is wayyyyy HAWT ... megan
Thursday May 1, 2008

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