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Thursday Dec 13, 2007

He's a complex man. He's charming as can be, but has left a trail of business relationships (Butch Lewis, America Presents, Don King, Lou Dibella) that have landed in lawyers' laps. Say what you will about him, he does provoke thought and conversation. Bu

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Bernard Hopkins Plays A Race Card

By Michael Woods

When Bernard Hopkins hooked up with Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions in November 2004, jokesters took bets on how long that union would last.

Hopkins had recently come off a severely contentious beef with his former advisor, Lou Dibella, in which he had accused Dibella, then heading up HBO's boxing department, of demanding a bribe to place Hopkins on an HBO card.

Dibella fought that slur, and won a judgment in court, in November 2002. The court ruled that Hopkins should pay Dibella $610,000 in damages for making the accusation.

How long, people wondered, before a Hopkins/De La Hoya marriage would hit the rocks.

Well, the union has lasted longer than most would have guessed, and Hopkins has been a solid addition to the GBP family. He's a fascinating persona, a skilled orator, and is a more effective spokesman for the company than Oscar, who detractors say can come off as inauthentic, and Richard Schaefer, who can come off as too CEO-ish for the blue-collar sport.

That is, until Hopkins played the race card, in a shocking fashion for the year 2007.

Last Friday, while jawing with Joe Calzaghe in the Mayweather/Hatton media war room at the MGM, Hopkins went there, and played the race card as he tried to fan the flames of interest for a Calzaghe/Hopkins scrap in 2008.

"You're not even in my league!" Hopkins shouted at Calzaghe. "I would never let a white boy beat me. I would never lose to a white boy. I couldn't go back to the projects if I let a white boy beat me."

Yikes.

 I'm pretty certain most of you guys heard about this, but there wasn't quite the resultant furor that I would've figured there would be.

Some columnists took BH to the carpet, but part of me wonders what the hoopla would've been like if the roles were reversed. Imagine if Calzaghe had said, "I would never let a black guy beat me."

Woo-ee, that would be a John Rocker-type reaction, wouldn't it?


Nope, the playing field isn't level when it comes to playing the race card, and I'm not going to say it should be. Sure, on one level it's easy to say racist, or race-related comments like Hopkins tossed out there are wrong. Coming from anyone, in this day and age, with the strides we've made, it's wrong. But my ancestors from England, and Ireland, and Germany weren't chained up, kidnapped and sold off to work as slave laborers. How would I act if that were the case? Impossible for me to walk a mile in those shoes...

However, I admit I would've liked to see Bernard disavow that race card proclamation, say that he made those comments in the heat of trash-talking battle, and offer an apology to Joe C.

I actually contacted Hopkins' publicist, and asked if he'd like to chat about the comments, and clarify the remarks. The publicist said Bernard is on vacation at this time, and would not be available for an interview.

The comments beg the question: is Bernard Hopkins racist? The last more pale- skinned person he fought was Oscar and before that Hakkar, and before that, it was probably back in the early 90s. When facing a non-black fighter, does he truly gear himself up to a different extent, because he can't bear the thought of losing to a "white boy." Does he see himself as a better breed of fighter, better than a white fighter, because he's black? Hopefully, we'll hear from him, and he can make clear his views on this subject soon.

So we're left to theorize, and I suspect, because that's all I can do until Hopkins revisits the issue, that Hopkins wants us to theorize. He's as effective in the ring as any almost 43-year-old has any right to be, but his effectiveness as a fighter has diminished in the last few years.

So to make up for that, and keep people talking about him, I believe he's more inclined to pull off a publicity stunt, as when he provoked Winky Wright into a physical beef before they tangled in July. I think perhaps the race-related comments to Calzaghe are cut from the same cloth, meant to get people buzzing. It succeeded, to a point.

Many pundits are hesitant to go there when it comes to discussing race, because it remains a hot button issue that can hit the nuclear level in the blink of an eye. So the race rant did get a bit lost in the megafight shuffle over the weekend.

I received an email last week after I raked PBF thru the coals for his profane Youtube rant. The writer said I wasn't comfortable with Floyd's behavior because I'm white, and whites were responsible for forcing blacks into slavery, so Floyd can say and do whatever he wants. I had conceded in the Youtube piece that as a Caucasian, I am in no position to be able to comprehend what it's like to be black today.

But there are those that can argue, with some persuasiveness, that Bernard should get more of a free pass for making  race-based comments, because he's black. It wouldn't be a stretch to ponder that maybe Hopkins does ponder issues of race, and racial inequalities, more than a white man of means does. Do you believe that a white man, with a more ample fund for defense, would necessarily receive the same sentence as Hopkins did for a strong-arm robbery, even if the raps on his sheet were piling up?

Does that excuse his comments? Nope.

But could his life's arc, and a stint in a penitentiary where he had to feign insanity to prevent being raped, contribute to a mindset where its us vs. them, black vs. white? It could.

But excusing this group from a standard, and not that group, that's a slippery slope. We are all in this mad muddle we call life together, and there must be common standards that are applied equally. Because that's all any of us can hope for: to be judged on our merits, on how we act and treat others, not on an arbitrary trait like the color of the skin we happen to be born with.

Bottom line here...so many columnists are quick to judge. I can go there myself. I hammered PBF pretty good last week for his profane and flamboyantly braggadocious behavior.

But there are very few angels walking this earth. We screw up. We harbor prejudices. We say things we wish we could take back.

I do hope that Hopkins gets back from vacation, and explains why he used that loaded terminology as he scrapped verbally with Calzaghe in Vegas.

 I do hope that he apologizes, and admits that the word choice was poor.

Because I want to believe that Hopkins, who is a genuine role model for wrong-doers who crave the ability and strength to spurn old habits and stay on a straight and narrow path, is better than that, and that boxing, in the year 2007, is better than that.
 

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vincent:  Well written piece. If Hopkins said that, its really classless of him; I wish people would lay off such bullshit in this day and age. But I guess its too much to ask. Guess more and more people will switch to the UFC with behavior like this. Interestingly, I remember Mike Tyson calling Lennox Lewis the same thing after the infamous leg biting press conference, unless I am mistaken.
Thursday Dec 13, 2007 03:13:25 PM
armando:  What else do you expect from a hardened ex-con? That's the real Hopkins.
Thursday Dec 13, 2007 03:23:01 PM
pw:  Mr. Hopkins: You "feigned insanity" in jail. That's cool. Now will you tell us you're feigning racism? Not cool. I think this: A gutsy fighter speaking out--cool. A racist spewing poison--not cool. When a gutsy reporter reports--cool. A fearful reporter--not cool. Mr. Hopkins, you can say what you want. Just be willing to reap the rewards for your honesty, or suffer the consequences for your racism...Why not Ask Larry Holmes for advice on this matter. He is, after all, in The Boxing Hall of Fame.
Thursday Dec 13, 2007 04:23:43 PM
Apeman:  I'm white and I think it's funny. I also believe him; a proud black prizefighter who overcame "The Man's" system cannot allow a white man to beat him but I think Calzaghe would do just that.
Thursday Dec 13, 2007 04:35:17 PM
mr payback:  it is equal parts trash talk and self promotion, bernard is a street savy person he came from the streets, i am white but admit freely that every race at times will verbally disparage others races and then also have genuine goodwill and friendship with others of that same race as if never happend. Rascism is made a bigger deal then it is by the media. However hopkins said this publicly in promotional forums not amongst his buddies in the projects, i think it was calculated perhaps it is a bad choice perhaps not. Look how big all the trash talk and USA vs UK theme made hatton mayweather. So we will see how it all plays out. I will just be happy if the fight even happens i thought bernard was gonna duck calzaghe and fight the winner of tito-jones, i think he picked the wrong white boy in calzaghe but i would have respect for hopkins if he takes the fight because i feel this would be the most dangerous opponent of his career at this time more than trinidad or jones even when he fought them in their prime.
Thursday Dec 13, 2007 04:35:20 PM
rudy:  We all know B-Hop is talker, and as Apeman says its FUNNY. Dont get your panties in a bunch. Remember Hopkins is also a promoter -- remember when he slapped Winky? He admitted it was a promotional stunt. Its classic trash talking and I'm 100% sure its all in humor. Let them talk, make it a fun promotion, bring on the 24/7 for this fight b/c Calzaghe and Hopkins are great characters who have some of the funniest one-liners in the sport. WE NEED THIS! Not just the same old boring press conferences.
Thursday Dec 13, 2007 04:58:47 PM
BIGDADDY74:  "more people will switch to the UFC" I guess nobody over there talks any trash.Except for maybe Tito,Rampage,Joe Blowgan,and Dana White.When will all these UFC fanboys stop drinkin the Kool-Aid.UFC has just as many problems as Boxing if not more;un-fair wages,willy-nilly rankings,and too much man-hugging for my taste.
Thursday Dec 13, 2007 06:24:51 PM
Niko:  Rudy, if you think B-Hop trash talk is funny, just think a very funny statement on the opposite way like "I like to beat the sh... out of blacks" or "a black guy will never beat me"... just imagine: riots, arson, assault and all the crazyness like the 1992 Rodney King uprising. Gimme a break will you!??!!?!?! B-hop must shut the f... up and apologise RIGHT NOW!
Thursday Dec 13, 2007 06:44:39 PM
jm....:  b hop is a great character and it shouldnt be that big of a deal when people say anything like this.on the streets it is said everyday and no one thinks twice. but don imus said nothing close and got canned john rocker said nothin close and was almost killed. the double standards in usa will eventully make people hate eachother not cause of the comments people make but the penalties of comments some make and nothing bout the others.....think about
Thursday Dec 13, 2007 06:48:26 PM
Ben:  Hopkins is able to speak from his heart and genuinely promote a super fight, all at the same time. This is why he should be such a draw, he is the REAL thing.
Thursday Dec 13, 2007 07:05:19 PM
winston:  im from the projects in harlem usa.. and think this is why people get at eachother.... nobody hate eachother but it is when people feel favortizim towards others they lash out....if ricky hatton would say he would never lose to a black man they wouldve canceled the fight courtesy of rev al sharpton who im not proud to have in my corner.totally different subject but yuseff hawkins died in bensonhurst years back and the defense lawyers were beat up goin to lunch the prosecutor got mugged and all hell broke lose until they convicted those cats.......last month 40 black and latinos beat up 2 white boys in howard beach where probs occurred and it made the 27th page of some b.s. paper liberal media will ruin our progress not our words..................
Thursday Dec 13, 2007 07:10:13 PM
Radam G:  Woods, Woods, Woods, gosh! You are more sheltered and naive than I ever was. I grew up bratty, upper class and white accepted -- my ethnic mixed is Spanish Arab and Filipino Chinese. I now move in all circles as an adult. The best thing ever for me was to serve a tour in the U.S. Navy and with a U.S. security (spy) agency. I was forced to be tolerant and to mix. First, coming to the States as a preteen, I had stereotypes about whites, blacks and Latinos. Nevertheless, I learned when I encountered them that I had been feed a bunch of crap. Now, I will make my point. B-Hop is no racist. He is talking smack -- throw-away rhetoric. (Some street blacksand whites call it jive talk. Muhammad Ali mastered it for the fight game.) Hopkin is just hyping the bout and playing mind games. If B-Hop is a racist, you are going to have to call him a regionalist, too. He talked smack to Jermain Taylor. I quote B-Hop : "Ain't no country boy from Arkansas goin' beat me. I won't be able to look myself in the mirror. I'm going to knock this skillet-colored, country punk out." "B-Hop" Hopkins is just shooting his mouth off -- all in fun. It is no different from when Ali was teasing the world by calling white opponents -- "White hope," White dope," and "Snow Flake," and then saying to them, "This (N-word) is gonna whup yo' white tail." Life is short. A boxing career is even shorter. Let not project things on people that we assume. B-Hop doesn't need to respond. For those who know the game, know what he is doing -- just bullsh*ting, talking smack. Color will not stop a butt-kicking once you are in that squared jungle -- the boxing ring. Bernard "B-Hop" Hopkins is well aware of this. Bottomline, he knows he has to fight. But in the meantime, he will let the naive and the authentic bigots and racist think he is one. He just want those butts in those paid seat at the bout or in front of their PPV. At this moment, I'm taking Calzaghe to beat Hopkins in a close, controversial decision. Holla!
Thursday Dec 13, 2007 07:34:14 PM
rudy:  @Niko -- COME ON!!!!!! Dont be so stuck up!!!!! Hopkins is talking trash AT CALZAGHE!!!!!!! Not the entire race, its man to man -- like playing one on one b-ball, just talking mess saying "I'm not to let you of all people beat me." Nothing serious or racial. What is dumb about it is the press making something out of nothing, leave it alone and let them talk trash. I didnt hear Calzaghe complain...why is everybody else getting butt hurt??
Thursday Dec 13, 2007 07:48:39 PM
Robert:  Hello I\'m sorry but an athlete is an athlete regardless of race, size or nationality. We specialize in international horse racing world wide across the globe. And we respect our competing and countries that choose to participate in our sporting events here in America. I personally feel it is in very bad tasted and reflects a bad imagine on something that America has been trying to change generation after generation, and that being racial comments or slurs, When Jimmy the Greek made a statement he was reprimanded, when fuzzy cellar makes a statement he to was reprimanded But you take a person who has been on ESP. or NBC as a commentator to make such as bad and bold statement about Joe C a boxing champion. from England from Bernard Hopkins stating that they will never be a white boy that would ever beat him is totally uncalled for. We have many members world wide and international jockeys who we give the must utmost respect to. I feel as though Bernard Hopkins should offer a public apology to the viewing audience and the American public who both view and participate in our American Sports. Many of our top international jockeys come from destinations world-wide and we respect everyone ability to perform in the sport known world-wide as the Sport of Kings. goldminehandicapping
Thursday Dec 13, 2007 08:00:00 PM
Daniel Melo:  I don't think Hopkins can handle Joe Cal period. He's trying to get into his head by playing the race card. I remember when he went to Puerto Rico and stepped on the flag.... Hopkins is just plain ol' crazy, and like a good ex-con will say anything that's on his mind without regard for the consequences. Good article, though. I just hope this doesn't become the forum for race controversy. We are all blessed to have this beautiful sport that unites us at some level. le'ts not forget that we all evolved from the same primitive being after all.
Thursday Dec 13, 2007 08:01:27 PM
Apeman:  Niko - you're right, there is a major double standard, just ask Michael Richardson, Don Immus and John Rocker. But I'm OK with it because nobody in my lineage was ever hung from a tree, burned to death in a church or dragged to death for being black. Just like OJ killing his wife....I don't think it was right...but I understand why he did. Floyd Mayweather is an asshole most of the time but notice he never once made mention of Hatton's whiteness?
Thursday Dec 13, 2007 08:51:09 PM
Josh:  Bernard shouldn't have said that, but if he apologizes to Joe he'll be running till the day of the fight. He didn't back down when he threw the PR flag down and he can't do it now.
Thursday Dec 13, 2007 09:51:13 PM
Depresso:  You guys depress me. You just shrug it off. Oh, he's just talkin smack. I bet you're all young. I bet the writer is my age (40 plus!). The younger set now accepts so much..witness the fact that this war just marches on, trillions are wasted, no one marches and seems to care. Too busy with video games, I suppose. Sorry to say that, and dismiss the youth, but you guys have no outrage about anything.
Thursday Dec 13, 2007 10:37:29 PM
*Roger Clemens:  "I would never let a black boy beat me!" If Calzaghe had uttered that sentence he would have been excoriated. We have a terrible double standard in America and it makes me sick. Imus gets the heave-ho for a statement made in jest. I'm not defending his statement but if a black radio host made a similarly distasteful comment, it would have gone unnoticed.
Friday Dec 14, 2007 07:13:15 AM
rudy:  My point exactly Radam G. Well put.
Friday Dec 14, 2007 09:01:36 AM
Kool-Aid:  Roger Clemens, you're exactly right about a "double standard" in America. Let's see if you get hammered as hard as Barry Bonds got hammered by the press.
Friday Dec 14, 2007 09:03:55 AM
paulbo:  Hopkins is a master at promotion, and he's not afraid to descend into the gutter if it means a heftier purse come fight night. I doubt he really feels this way about white people. But if he does, who can blame him? He comes from a pretty rough background. If his hate for white people is what gets his juices pumping, then more power to him. The fans will be rewarded witha special effort.
Friday Dec 14, 2007 10:13:28 AM
Dave Boyle:  Hopkins spent years in prison and you can still see it, the tension in his shoulders. Hopkins sincerely hates Calzaghe and I think he'll dispose of him rather easily.
Friday Dec 14, 2007 12:31:25 PM
Robert "Bob" Golota:  B-Hop is a racist. Period.
Friday Dec 14, 2007 01:41:30 PM
johnny:  hopkins did this to tito throwin the flag on the floor called delahoya anti mexican slurs this is wat he does get over it
Friday Dec 14, 2007 04:05:01 PM
Victor L.:  No way Calzaghe is intimidated by this. And no way does he lose to Hopkins. In fact, I say he schools Hopkins. They should make this fight NOW.
Friday Dec 14, 2007 08:32:12 PM
Niko:  Rudy: I agree with you about B-hop sayings; I totally understand. But the thing is, if you said something like that "to the black communiçty" (because he was not talking to Calzaghe´s ear!), they WOULDN´T think is trash talking. He should use other words, like no welsh is gonna beat me, or what ever. Cheers!
Saturday Dec 15, 2007 08:25:50 AM
Guy:  Total double-standard in America today. I agree with Niko and Apeman. And the fact that "ancestors were sold into slavery, burned in churches, etc" does not give any one a free pass in today's world. My people were killed by white men who put us on reservations...you know what, I'm over that.
Saturday Dec 15, 2007 02:38:17 PM
SalvadorS:  Very good article. I look forward to reading part 2 to hear Hopkins explanation. Good job Mike.
Saturday Dec 15, 2007 05:17:19 PM
Radam G:  Yea, Guy, you are right -- double standards. Your "people were killed by white men who put (them) on reservations..." And you are "over that." I guess you would be. The desendants of those "white men" have let you have billions of dollars of casino game operations taking place on your "reservations." Well, maybe Bernard Hopkins would be just like you if the the same "white men" desendants let his people have billions of dollars of some kind of operations on those old plantations or modern-day ghettos. B-Hop is no racist, period! It is all a game that is played for promotion purposes. White boxer did the same thing back in the day. Live is too short to be so sensitive about skin color. Victory is colorless! The best man wins with his fists and promotes to get paid well with his mouth. Give me a break!
Saturday Dec 15, 2007 05:47:06 PM
pete:  Life is too short to be insensitive about skin color.
Saturday Dec 15, 2007 06:55:39 PM
Doug:  Total double standard. First let me address the few people who have posted "I'm white" in the comments. Who Cares? Is that supposed to lend further weight to your arguement. Idiots. The reason it is a total double standard is not only if it had been reversed white man saying the same thing about a black man, even if B-Hop had made that comment about any other group in our society (jewish person, hispanic, etc.) nobody would think it was funny and an apology would be demanded from B-Hop. Everyone in society gets a free pass when it comes to taking shots at a white male. Also, for you people that have posted "I'm white" in your replies would you have thought it was funny if the roles were reversed, and Joe C. made those same type of comments about B-Hop. Somehow I doubt you would have.
Saturday Dec 15, 2007 08:19:40 PM
JET:  It's promotional. It gets people excited about the matchup. He feels the same way about southpaws since he has won 11 times against lefties, does that mean he is anti-southpaw. No. If he feels that a white boy won't beat him that is fine. I am sure he felt that no one of any race would beat him until RJJ did. Otherwise I am sure he would include blacks in his "you can't beat me comments". It's not like he said white boys can't beat blacks. He made a personal statement, something he felt about himself. Boxers do it all the time. So, relax and enjoy the build up.
Sunday Dec 16, 2007 01:10:14 AM
Bird Flu HATER:  The problem with B-Hop is his style. His fights are generally boring and I don't think this will be any different. In fact, the entertaining part of a B-Hop fight is the build-up. Personally, If Pavlik beats Taylor, as I believe he will, a Calzaghe - Pavlik fight for the Ring Magazine 168 pound belt is the most attractive fight in the sport. I think Pavlik wears Joe down and stops him. Let me repeat, CALZAGHE - PAVLIK and NOT B-Hop!!! Bernard is truly irrelevant at this point, unless he fights Dawson.
Sunday Dec 16, 2007 07:59:33 AM
Carl:  the title of this article is racist. The term "playing the race card" is just another way of saying "well,a black got away with that because he's black" I just feel we're alll being suckered into an issue that really isn't an issue. If what hopkins said was an issue,Calzaghe would be holding a press conference talking about how offended he was. So,maybe we should step away from the school yard and stop using stupid made up terms like..."the race card"!
Sunday Dec 16, 2007 09:31:44 AM
zeitgeist:  depresso, you see the big picture. not boxing but life. imo, hopkins comments mean nothing, like radam said, he's promoting the fight in a long established tradition. but if we all payed as much attention to what our nation is doing as we do to what hopkins said, out world would be alot better off. Challenge: spend two quality hours and watch zeitgeistmovie.
Monday Dec 17, 2007 12:42:14 AM
William Major:  hopkins speaks truth from his heart.he really feels like that as most black men with a chip on their shoulder do and he definetly does have a chip. but who cares ? i wouldnt want to get beat by a black boy ! ha ha
Monday Dec 17, 2007 12:49:14 PM
mike d:  calzaghe throws more punches in 1 round then bh does during a whole fight. he will get beat by a white boy no question.
Monday Dec 17, 2007 07:04:49 PM
Niko:  In a soccer match in Spain last year, I remember someone told a soccer player from Cameroon, (Samuel Etoo) “chimp, get back to the tree you belong” in the middle of a match. It was caught on TV by a local cameraman, and the player was severely fined and banned for 2/3 months. In Europe, racial issues and considerations are taken "MORE" seriously (in both ways...) than in the US . B-hop comment was inappropriate. He should apologize for a stupid statement. He should also be fined.
Wednesday Dec 19, 2007 09:26:54 AM
AG:  Let a "white boy" say that about an african american and he would be labeled a racist and run out of the sport. I hope Calzaghe punishes him for 12 rounds and KO's him in the final seconds.
Sunday Apr 13, 2008 09:23:16 AM
H.S.:  I am an African american. I am also a professional boxer. And I, myself, am apalled at Bernards comments. Off the top of my head, I can think of three major reasons why such a chill was sent down my spine when I witnessed that particular section of the press conference. Firstly, being someone who has dealt with many negative stereotypical perceptions throughtout my life, those which I'm pretty sure Bernard can relate to having faced as well, It shocks, and hurts me, to observe the arrogant ignorance which would lead him to place himself in the same mental class with individuals who attempt to limit myself, him, and billions of others by racist evaluations. I would be damn mad if someone said that about black people. And, staying true to my character and belief systems regarding racism, I'm likewise just as damn mad if anyone attempts to justify labeling anyone by their color. There is NO excuse for racism; and we all need to drop the idea that there is. I, myself, am trying to live above those concepts, and will one day teach my children how to do the same. Secondly, how many of his loyal fans, and young boxing hopefuls who follow him did he betray with, not only that comment, but by maintaining the mentality that holds them inferior in some way, due to their color? Joe Luis, Jack Johnson, and countless other icons fought and lived to erase those same standards. What about the caucasions who work with him? There is an ethnic mix of individuals, on his own team, who put their heart and soul into helping him win every fight! Thirdly, I found myself having to lose respect for any fighter who would evaluate one of our own fold of warriors, on the basis of his color, instead of his skill set. While I always hope to see whoever the best man is on that night walk away with a win, I think Bernard could benefit on some careful, and honest self- reflection on, not only what he said, but the thinking process which allowed him to say it.
Sunday Apr 13, 2008 07:52:35 PM
frtiz:  what he said is wrong because: a) he called a man who is champion and over 30 a 'boy' b)by saying he won't lose to a white, means many things including 'it's more important for him to beat a white fighter than a black one' , 'he as a black person is superior athletically to a white person and therefore should not lose' etc. c) combining the two and using 'a white boy' and not 'you white boy' is racism beyond one person, and 'white boy' should just stop being a comment, Joe Calzaghe is a man, and a champion, and white men are not boys.
Wednesday Apr 16, 2008 03:42:45 PM
TP:  Nobody's outraged at B-Hop because it's obvious he's just selling the fight. Howard Stern says worse things on his show every day - some listeners might get pissed at Stern, but nobody takes it seriously or thinks he should get punished for it or anything like that, because they know it's just for show. Hop is just the black Howard Stern of the boxing world.
Wednesday Apr 16, 2008 04:18:46 PM
Anonymous user:  Hopkins hasn't a chance, Pope Beinedict in is the USA at the momemt and he'd have a better chance of beating Calzaghe that Hopkins, and he, Benedict, celbrated his 81st birthday today - Hopkins is just a few years younger that the Pope, call it a day Hopkins, your too slow and long in the tooth. Amazing really that racism is only white on black, the other way around and Calzaghe would probaably have to resign, Hopkins is undignified, uneduacted and a racist.and is bringing the sport into disrepute. Meantime, hats off to Calzaghe for maintaining his dignity like true all champions.
Wednesday Apr 16, 2008 05:43:22 PM
bill major:  a man speaks whats in his heart,thats a fact.you can say all the "he was only kidding" or he was just selling tickets" but he is and will always be ,to be nice ill say angry. we all have a little racisum in us and thats the way it is. but when you say stuff like bernard did,it does ruffle feathers.like radam said ,you join the military and are thrown in the mix and you deal with and to me learn about each others culture and appreciate each other in a differant way than what you were brought up to. i think it has made me a better man for it . anyway,when your involved in boxing and your white to boot,you go into the gyms and the percentage of guys are black or latino so again you adapt and learn to get along with each other especially when you spar with each other.i had to earn their respect in the ring . i was at the HOF back 8 yrs ago and bernard was their as a celeb.he was the middleweight champ and i ill never forget how people avoided him like the plague . he had a chip on his shoulder,you could feel it when you looked at him,honest to God.he sat in the corner in a tent ,by himself.i dont care how tough you think you are ,it had to bother him but it was his own fault,you got to get over that anger of what happened to your ancesters and such,it does nobody no good and none of us were around back then anyway.sure as hell isnt my fault but i feel some guilt about it and try to be a better man towards humanity. i thnk hopkins has adjusted his attitude towards the better ,he seems more affable but it stiill come out on occasion like the other day.unlike some of the other guys here ,i think its he who is getting nervous and intimidated by calzahgie hence the remarks. we will see. as for the comments,im white,im human, and it does rub me the wrong way and i dont appreciate it any more than an african american would if i said it to a black fighter.double standard ? could you imagine the uproar if calzahgie said it to bernard ? the guy would be acused of wearing a kkk hood to bed at night and everyone knows it so its best not to say crap like thatit sure isnt selling tickets is it?
Thursday Apr 17, 2008 01:06:17 PM
William A Major:  radam, when ali did it back then,he had a twinkle in his eye and you could tell he was playing it . he was more serious to his own race .hopkins has no twinkle and he aint playing he was spouting whats in his heart and you know it. people arent stupid,they know it also .why your trying to compare him to ali is beyond me . it isnt even close ,ali was all about love outside of the ring.they are like an apple and an orange,different.
Thursday Apr 17, 2008 01:15:26 PM

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r our passion for to see great fights. Thus, there is little Go ... and even less Show. I am vaguely interested in the Business of Boxing. Frankly, it is a mess on a good day and worse on it's worst. I prefer reading the Business pages where brilliant men and women develop skills and strategies to create incredible value and wealth (for themselves and others) in ways far more effectively and meaningfully than those who Rule ...some might say Ruin...this beautiful Sport." --FE'ROZ, speaking for a majority of fight fans

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