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Floyd Mayweather's Youtube Disgrace
By Michael Woods
While he was fending off legal woes stemming from bar fights and domestic beefs, while he was a fighter without a homebase to attract a rabid throng of paying customers, while he proclaimed himself the world's best pound for pound fighter, and many of us yawned, Floyd Mayweather was on his way to being what he is now: a legitimate pay per view attraction.
PBF explained his popularity in a recent conference call.
"It's the right chemistry and the right team," he said. "My team has
really went out there and went to work for me, not just inside the
ring but outside the ring, conducting business. I'm going to keep
dedicating myself. I'm going to keep just working hard and eventually
everybody will open their eyes and see that I really want it and I
need to be at the top...one day I said, I'm going to be a pay-per-view
attraction and here I am today. I truly believe that we're going to
do over a million homes. It took a lot of work. Kelly Swanson my
publicist is breaking her neck to try to get my face anywhere that she
could possibly get it and Leonard and Al (Haymon), there's a good
chemistry and, of course, Richard Schaeffer and Oscar de la Hoya and
Golden Boy Promotions. They do a great of a job and, I've got my own
company now, so all those things together, mixed in one is what pushed
Mayweather to the top and, of course, the main thing is that my skills
and my hard work."
A lot of that is true.
The marketing of Mayweather has been damned masterful. The "Dancing"
stint was prime product placement. All those folks deserve a tip of
the cap, as does Floyd, for having an amazing capacity to work his
tail off.
Now, I don't have the means to commission a poll, but I am curious
about this popularity factor.
I wonder, how many people are going to buy the fight Saturday spurred
mainly or partially by the desire to see Floyd lose?
How many of those buyers are going to buy the show, because they love
to hate Floyd?
I first recall becoming aware of the "love to hate" phenomenon back
around 1980. There was a late night TV soap called "Dallas" that
starred Larry Hagman as amoral Texas oilman JR Ewing, who by hook or
more often by crook would bend, break, and steamroll the rules to get
what he wanted.
He had an undeniable charisma, though, and if you couldn't take your
eyes off him. He was a tiny bit lovable, but mostly repulsive, and he
commanded attention.
PBF has a bit of that, I think. (With a much greater helping of
charisma and far less repulsiveness.)
PBF has plenty of admirers--and let's put it on the table, the love
him or loathe him breakdown does along racial lines, to a large
extent--and also a healthy contingent of people who don't care for his
pronouncements at being the best boxer that ever was, and his cash
flashing habit.
The "love him" camp has been growing, sort of like Huckabee's poll
numbers. Yes, PBF has grown in the last two, three, four years. He
doesn't appear in the police blotter for out-of-the-ring fracases.
Humility creeps into his speech more than it did.
Here's how he closed his final conference call.
"I just wanted to say that I appreciate all the media because, I mean
you guys are the ones that helped Floyd Mayweather get to the level
that he's at over the years, writing all the articles and I
appreciate, I mean everybody," he said. "I really, and I truly mean
that and thanks for supporting me. My family appreciates you guys.
Be there December 8; if you can't, buy pay-per-view because you, this
go-around I have to give you guys a toe-to-toe battle and I'm not
going to let you guys down. I'm going to go out there and perform
well and all my U.K. fans, all my U.K. writers, I appreciate all the
articles and continue to write about Ricky Hatton and continue to
write about Floyd Mayweather and I'll see you guys next week."
The cynic might argue that he's gotten wise to how the PR game is
played. Possible. But this man has such a healthy ego, and a
propensity to say what's on his mind, I don't see him spouting this
"thanks to the press" line unless he feels it.
STOP!
I wrote all that on Wednesday afternoon, before I received an email link, from Iceman John Scully, to a Youtube video making the rounds. The video features Floyd, in a profanity laden, N-word littered boastfest. He's yapping to a DJ, DJ J-Nice, and he drops m-bombs, racial slurs, calls Hatton a f****t, and generally acts like a world-class thug. He proclaims his superiority over any an all in the boxing ring, tells listeners how filthy rich he is, and basically rants like a caricature of a rapper.
I won't post the link, because the publisher likes to keep it clean here, but you'll be able to find it easily.
It's a gross showing, to my taste.
I have to acknowledge that there is a culture gap at work here, a culture canyon actually that Evel Knevel couldn't traverse in a sky cycle.
I'm Caucasian, and don't know how hard it is to be systematically oppressed for hundreds of years, to come from a beaten down neighborhood that reeks of hoplessness, and have doors pre-slammed in my face simply because my skin is dark. I would never presume to say that I have any clue what that is like. I do think I understand a tiny bit that people who have risen from that atmosphere might be inclined to shout it loud and proud and defiantly, that they've persevered, and bucked the odds. But without being black, I'll never know the sting of the race gap in our country. So maybe we're destined to never meet in the middle, and find common ground on this sort of behavior.
The hip hop culture, the hyper-sexualized, hyper-violent arm of it, has popularized this sort of tasteless rant, in which those that have "made it" advertise their net worth and standing in the world, but this Youtube outing is over the top even in that milieu.
It made me rethink my line of thinking, what I wrote before I saw that Youtube.
It's now screamingly obvious that Floyd is playing both sides now, acting in one manner for one segment of the nation, and in another manner for another segment.
Is that wrong? Maybe, maybe not.
We all have different facets to our personality.
Certainly politicians tailor their presentation and message to their audience and PBF is always vying for votes, in the form of PPV buys.
So I don't think it's that surprising that these different guises are in use.
But what does disappoint me is how Mayweather is so fixated on the almighty dollar. To him, it's almighty, and to me, that's sacrilege. I'm not a Bible thumper, I'm actually of the Bill Maher school on the subject of religion. But it's almost obscene to hear Mayweather obsess about money, wave around wads of it, and send the message to the kids that it's money that matters, that if you make loads of cash you are a success.
Hey, dismiss me as a hater cause I'm not rolling in it.
I really hope that PBF sees that he's wasting time that could be sent sending out a positive message to kids, instead of tooting his own horn to such a sad, sickening degree.
His father has said repeatedly that money has gotten into Floyd's head, and changed him. I don't know if it's money, or what, but that video...
Man, that is some sad, sick stuff. And for anyone that doesn't see it as such, maybe you should examine your views and taste, and consider that you've become numb to stuff that should turn you off.
I believe the only way PBF can see some light, and get out of this obsession with money, and this overwhelming need to proclaim his worthiness, is to taste a loss in the ring.
Will Hatton be the one to do it, I don't know, but a loss, in the long run, could be the best thing that ever happened to Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather.
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rudy:
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That's why I'm buying the PPV - I want to see Hatton spring the MONSTER upset and have that Brit crowd go nuts in an amazing scene.....
Thursday Dec 6, 2007 11:59:11 AM
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Hatton Rules!:
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I found it and found it pathetic. That man is so insecure. I really, really, hope that Ricky can do it Saturday, show PBF that he ain't all that! Good piece.
Thursday Dec 6, 2007 12:35:48 PM
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Radam G:
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Hatton will not beat PBF. PBF's behavior is the times that we live in. It has nothing to do with being black. And it is not his job or role to be a role model for kids. The earth has always been full of bad and good. Trust me, Michael Woods, I know a lot of "Caucasian" who also live in "beaten down
neighborhood(s)" and trailer parks. Quit writing a sad story for why you think PBF acts the way he acts. As a person who almost white (and people swear that I am) I'm constantly with whites who will make Gangster Hip Hop behavior look like child play. There will always be bad boys in athletics.
Thursday Dec 6, 2007 12:40:42 PM
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Kool-Aid:
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Whatever PBF says, it will not change the outcome of this weekend's fight. Like Charles Barkley says, "I don't have to be a role-model." However, it would be nice if PBF was a role model. But he's not...he's a fighter. His job is to get people to watch him fight. Apparently, it's working. If you want to make a real statement, don't watch the fight. But boxing fans have to watch the fight...they can't help themselves. Boxing is unlike any other sport. They're no such thing as "decorum." You can't fine a boxer for running his mouth on YouTube. The only person that can make PBF be quiet is his conqueror in the ring and I don't think that person will be Hatton. The only person who has a chance of beating PBF is Miguel Cotto and and Floyd will dodge him as long as he possibly can.
Thursday Dec 6, 2007 01:20:22 PM
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Travis:
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SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!! This is the dumbest article on the web. PBF is a great boxer and I have no problem with him be cocky/confident. I would talk trash too!!! He can't say what he wants until somebody beats him. Until then, he will be known as the best boxer ever in my book. YES, I SAID BEST BOXER EVER!!!!!-
Thursday Dec 6, 2007 01:53:06 PM
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Aida Olivencia:
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Floyd is a very talented/gifted young man -- wanting to please those who work with him. Don't know how many boxing fans TOOK the OPPORTUNITY to watch PBF on Dancing with the Stars, but he really NEVER should have been eliminated after only a few weeks...he performaned dance MILES better than so many couples that were left. His boxing audience SHOULD have taken the time to watch -- it was pretty! He was courteous, enthusiastic, energetic, wanting to learn as much as possible each week, and he was sincerely saddened by the loss most especially because he really respected and liked his professional dance partner and wanted to have performed his best for her and the fans. Truth-to-tell, he was awesome, and he may have had an opportunity to have made it to the semi-finals if his fan base had taken the time to watch that show and give him their support. I voted for him each and every time! He's a young man who is, just recently, coming to himself insofar as his public relations skills, and image are concerned...realizing that it isn't ALL about being a tough guy. He realizes that there's a place a time for behaving in certain ways. I wish him the very best! As to having a different face/attitude for whatever the audience there may be at hand, I think it perfectly acceptable. Afterall, if one speaks the Queen's English in the "hood" one would very likely get laughed or beaten out of the hood. Likewise if sitting with the Queen, one comports oneself accordingly refraining from talking "trash". I don't find that hypocracy, I find it logical! You go Floyd!
Thursday Dec 6, 2007 02:36:29 PM
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rudy:
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In regards to the video and PBF's actions --- What's new?
Thursday Dec 6, 2007 02:36:31 PM
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Salt lover:
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Pretty Boy is just and simply above the class of everyone else, simple. Love him or hate him, he's just at a superior level in boxing that's it. I'm looking for an easy KO in mid fight against Hatton. The Hitman has a big heart, I give him that, but it ain't about hearts or strenght. Not about preassure or gentlemanship. It ain't about countries either. It's about skills. It's all about boxing skills, and Floyd's the best at it. Now everyone's talking about Cotto, and the possibility that in the future he pulls the upset. That ain't never gonna happen. Not because they won't ever fight, but because Floyd's skills would put the Cotto expectation fantasy to rest. There's no one alive today that I can see, who can beat Floyd Mayweather jr. So I'm betting (Betting as in I believe) Floyd Mayweather jr. will retire undefeated and at the top of his game. Love him or hate him, that's how it will most surely turn out.
Thursday Dec 6, 2007 03:03:13 PM
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Non Hater:
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I guess Michael Woods is now the Posterboy for Goodness and Purity and I also guess we are supposed to care that he does not approve of Mayweathers Right to Free Speech... Funny how nowadys White men act all righteous and sophisticated... I guess people forgot how white europeans Raped and slaughtered the Indians and took their land, or profited for hundreds of years from the Slave trade of Africans using Cattle Branding, institutionalized Rape, Hangings Whippings selling human beings and making it illegal for Slaves to read or own land... Now a few profane words from a AAA+ level fighter brings such horror and disdain!! I guess we are to beleive that this Ghetto Kid turned Millionare Athelete is Public Enemy #1 Hide the childrren! Get a clue Woods and stop your Hating! If you were a young, fit , good looking millionare athelete you would be talking trash too! Stop your self righteous BS! Guys like Woods are the same "Wholesum Family Values BSers" who have skelletons like eveybody else... Get off the Soap Box!
Thursday Dec 6, 2007 04:48:51 PM
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Anonymous user:
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Wow, just watched the vid. Type in 'Mayweather + dj" on youtube. I didn't like him before - and now? I like him even less. Who is the real Floyd Mayweather Jr? Does he exist? P4P Boxer? P4P PR chameleon? Both? Another spectacular talent who grew up too fast, and thus not at all? What does he really believe, what does he really stand for?
Floyd says he is always the villain. If that video on youtube shows any real part of the real Floyd Mayweather, then he has nobody to blame but himself.
LETS GO HATTON
Thursday Dec 6, 2007 06:04:07 PM
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Non hater, keep it up. Keep on defending the the idiotic behavior. You went right to, accuse everyone who thinks Floyd is a bad role model and jerk of being a hater. You probably idolize him, look up to him. Learn to spell wholesome, and maybe try to comprehend through your racist viewpoint why Floyd is wrong for flashing his money like that and playing the fool. Kids look up to that stuff. Woodsman speaks up, says it's wrong. I notice you don't use a real name. You lack guts and brains I think. Woodsman said it, it's a culture clash. Sad stuff. Go HATTON!
Thursday Dec 6, 2007 07:03:02 PM
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COTTO'S #1 FAN:
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Floyd "Pretty Scared" Mayweather. I believe he knows what Cotto can bring to the table, he and he's manager can say what ever they want about Cotto, but the fact is that they damn sure know who is Cotto. They've always avoid Cotto, if Mayweather feels he would have a easy night vs Cotto, then WALLAH! he should prove it in the middle of the ring, not behind the camera or Larry Merchant. I think Mayweather is a great boxer, make no mistake about it, but Miguel Cotto deserves he's shot, no question. Cotto has all the tools to beat Mayweather, say what you want. I rest my case.
Thursday Dec 6, 2007 07:28:20 PM
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Frederick:
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It's about class. Anyone who doesn't get that, is probably a fan of 50 Cent, or under 20, or grew up in a house with bad role models. My two cents.
Thursday Dec 6, 2007 08:23:48 PM
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JP:
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Why did I just spend the time to read this article again? This article is tasteless and diluted if you ask me.... The first part was great...the last part was like a inebriated gossip column. And, I for one, am sick of hearing people say "Role-model for the kids" etc...We should be promoting parents...Not people that box in Vegas. Floyd's foundation for kids shows his contributions in my book. The same as any other athlete that is donating money. Broken families, abusive relationships, and bad parenting are role-model concerns.
BOXING: Floyd is the best boxer in the world until someone takes his belt. PERIOD. 38 pro fights/10 years - Tons of "tough" opponents. No losses. (And he hasn't even broke a sweat yet). .
Thursday Dec 6, 2007 11:21:58 PM
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JP, a column can't be inebriated. Maybe you were drinking when you posted. And the article is tasteless? BTW Floyd is a parent. Go back to sniffing PBF's jock, and get back to me when he breaks a sweat and gets broken down by Hitman in Vegas, baby. I love this website, to me the only one that really calls it like it is and doesn't kiss butts. And I love Hitman!
Friday Dec 7, 2007 12:15:11 AM
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I agree with you Woods. That boy needs to lose, I admire and respect his abilities in the ring and his work ethic. I got news for you Mayweather is fake just like every rapper in the U.S, they are all a bunch of fake ass fools, he's not tough if he was he'd fight differently trust me he's smart but he's not tough. I'd love to see Mayweather lose and lose big by K.O something like when judah lost to Tzyu remember the dance? I want to see Floyd get dropped in humiliating fashion, that would certainly make him want to raise his hand before speaking ever again you know what I'm saying. Hatton will not be his conqueror though Hatton is going to be the one who gets humiliated in this one, for sure. If I had to chose any fighter out there who I believe would beat Mayweather the way I want to see, it would PROBABLY be Cotto. By desicion it would be Paul Williams. But I want to see Mayweather get dropped not slapped around.
Friday Dec 7, 2007 01:44:25 AM
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Keith:
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I have to admit that video was funny. It was funny because PBF thinks he's a gangsta! He's never robbed nobody. He's never shot anyone. He's never been involved with anything illegal except beating on women. WOW!!! What a man he is if he's beating his women! Having money, being from the ghetto, and being black DOESN'T MAKE YOU A GANGSTA. REAL GANGSTA'S DO GANGSTA THINGS. I can't stand people who are fake and I hope Hatton beats him up good.
Friday Dec 7, 2007 09:44:47 AM
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Understandably, acting in such a way as seen in the video is never going to be something that defines a role model. But who ever asked him to be? As a public figure it can be argued that he has a duty to be a role model. However, taking nothing away from the sport of boxing, a significant question arises: since when was glorifying violence within the confines of a boxing ring a “good example” for young children? Added to this it seems unfair to question PBF’s attitude when the President of the United States has been convicted for driving under the influence!
The fact that a select group of individuals have publicised a link on YouTube says nothing. Controlling the accessibility of inappropriate material is YouTube’s responsibility and not Mayweather’s. In the public eye PBF has shown to leave the expletives behind, opting for a cheekier and more playful guise. He’s a self-proclaimed “Sssh talker” whose displays of arrogance are nothing more than recognition of his success. Admittedly, verbally, he’s not to be taken seriously. So stop acting like you’re taking him seriously! He talks rubbish. Unfortunately, regardless of that, his displays in the boxing ring have always done the talking.
I don’t claim to be a boxing expert, but I do have a funny feeling Hatton will be champ come Saturday night. I do, however, confess to being a fan of PBF’s ever-so-sickening yet entertaining charisma and feel that he has the right to talk “Sssh” until the day that he relinquishes his crown.
Saturday Dec 8, 2007 09:48:09 AM
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Jasper:
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Ricky Hatton beating pretty boy will be my chrismas celebrated.
I have heard my sleep and can not wait to see Floyd battered.
Saturday Dec 8, 2007 04:52:34 PM
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Alexa:
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Shut up He's a boxer he's supposed to be cocky/confident.I hate when people hate on how other people are making their money! Leave him alone.He should've stayed on dancing with the stars longer he was good.REALY GOOD!!!!!! Until someone beats him (which they won't) he's the best boxer ever!Hatton's good but not better!!!
Sunday Dec 16, 2007 07:59:31 PM
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Andy Kokolis:
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What a fight that was between Jones and Trinidad I knew Jones was going to win. I want Don King to mach me up with Jones jr. Now that would be a good fight. Andy Kokolis Boston Ma
Monday Jan 21, 2008 07:58:00 PM
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kristy:
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i love floyd mayweather i am his biggest fan.
Wednesday Mar 26, 2008 11:07:04 AM
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emmanuel:
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when your mom was a drug attic and your father was a drug dealer that pushed u so hard u missed out on your childhood completly and you get that money in your hand from all the sacrifice and pain u went thru. u start to feel like a success you wanna tell the world maybe he is going about it wrong but he's only human atleast he's doing something right and thats working hard and winning!
Monday May 5, 2008 04:37:36 PM
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Lex:
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what a waste of everyones time!!
Saturday Jul 26, 2008 07:34:02 PM
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PETE STEWARD:
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People like woods have always hated fighters with attitude and flamboyance like JackJonhson, Ali and Money Mayweather. They spent there whole lives toiling in the gyms and areas starting with nothing sacrificing everything to be the greatest (especially mayweather who started at an earlier age than any other fighter probably in history). till they eventually become world champions and millionares . Role models are parents teachers etc NOT ATHLETES. May be a loss will humble him Spoken like true WHITE MAN you larry merchant must pplay golf together you probably were thinking the same thing when Ali lost well It didn't humble Ali And it won't humble Money DEAL WITH IT!
Friday Nov 14, 2008 09:55:29 AM
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joe:
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floyd mayweatherwas a true, great BOXER, not a run around the ring showboat, like cosell said was great boxing.
Monday Apr 20, 2009 05:50:23 PM
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To:???!!:
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???!!, no one is defending anything. If you think his behavior is bad for kids, guess what, get then off the internet and television. If your kids are looking up to him then you are doing something wrong in your life. All you people that say he should be a role model need to look in the mirror. He is not the father of your children. You need to be a role model so your kids won't flock to that behavior. He didn't ask your kids to watch him, you allowed them to see him. He is an athlete in a one on one sport. He has to be that way. He has to believe that he is the best, even when I played sports, I felt that I wanted to be the best, thats why you play. Whats up with wanting him to lose? Thats harsh, what if I say I wish you lose your job? how would that feel to you? Thats basically the same thing. Its a lot of hate on guys that are vocal. You are who you are, like it or love it, but its no need to knock someone for what they do. I heard Eminem on a free style dropping the N-bomb, and the MF bomb as well, but is everyone talking about that like they are with Floyd? no. So don't be the pot calling the kettle black.
Tuesday May 19, 2009 09:17:47 AM
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PBF is the greatest boxer of all time no doubt about it.With a smile and a face like that he has a right to be cocky.And he is a very hard worker inside and outside the ring.And he does alot to help less fortunate children but i don't hear anybody talking about that.Everybody is so quick to point out what they ''think'' his faults are.How about pointing out some of the good things he does.Don't be so quick to judge people you don't no personally.Look at yourself in the mirror,do you see a perfect person,NO YOU DON'T.So why do you guys think the only way to accept Floyd is for him to be perfect and for him to be somebody else instead of who he is just Floyd Mayweather being Floyd Mayweather.I love u Floyd keep up the good work inside and outside the ring.
Monday Jul 6, 2009 10:55:01 PM
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2009 Reader Of The Year Weighs In On Legacies Of Pacquiao And Mayweather
"Pacquiao has proven....in the ring... time and time again that he is the greatest of this time. He has earned his respect. He begs for nothing. He is a man content with his growth, his family and his achievements. A man the world has now turned it's eyes to behold. Floyd Mayweather is not even close in stature. He may possess the greatest skills but he is not the Face of Boxing today. Google Manny Pacquiao. There are 20 million searches. Google Floyd. There are 6.5 million. Look at the NYTimes, the Wall Street Journal and Time. Count how many words were used these past years to mention Floyd Mayweather. Then count the words still being printed about Manny. And keep counting. As I've said many times, Floyd has been too clever by half. He has short changed his public.....and has out-smarted himself. Manny will fight but a few more times. Enjoy it while you can. He is an all time great pugilist. Floyd, with all of his remarkable skills lack the will to be truly great in the biggest sense of the word. His legacy will look more like Holmes that Ali. He has earned it." ---November is half-way gone, but we don't need to keep counting ballots. It's a landslide. Fe'Roz has won the 2009 Reader of the Year award. His comments add to the website immeasurably, and he epitomizes the thoughtful, respectful, educated fan of pugilism we strive to cater to at TSS. Congrats, Fe'Roz, and please accept my thanks for being the valued member of this community that you are. Sincerely, Editor Mike
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