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Wednesday Aug 29, 2007

Six, seven years late, sure. But still somewhat compelling, Knish thinks. How bout it readers, think Tito's pop wins the day, or RJJ sticks, moves to victory?

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TSS Scouting Report: Jones/Trinidad Examined

By Joey Knish

Six or seven years ago the prospect of a Roy Jones Jr – Felix “Tito” Trinidad showdown would have had boxing fans reaching for their wallets for a chance to see the two future Hall of Fame fighters do battle. A dream match it would have been, and most likely a great fight as well. 

Turn the page to 2007 and the dream is dead, the bout set for January looks much less appealing, but Don King will make it happen anyway, expecting fight fans to pinch pennies for the opportunity to witness the fight on pay-per-view. 

For his part, at least Roy Jones Jr has been active. Fresh off a performance more impressive than most had expected from the 38-year-old Pensacola, Florida native, Jones (51-4-0) will hold two major advantages against Trinidad - recent activity and the contract weight. 

In July of this year Roy Jones showed he still has decent hand-speed as he put his 19 years of professional fight experience to good use against previously undefeated Anthony Hanshaw (21-1-1). While Jones may have fought the bout in spurts, he executed well defensively in close quarters and popped shots at Hanshaw when he created room to work. The win gives Jones the momentum of a mini two-fight winning streak (Jones beat Prince Badi Ajamu in his lone bout last year) which helps shake off the bad memories and dent to his ego that three successive losses (Antonio Tarver TKO2 – Glen Johnson KO9 – Tarver again UD12) had caused. 

The fact that Jones Jr will have to drop down further to 170 pounds could be a cause for concern for a fighter who once fought at heavyweight. But perhaps the greater concern should be for Felix Trinidad, a boxer-puncher who has never fought higher than the middleweight limit and was most devastating at welterweight. Trinidad was picked apart by the slick, smooth-boxing Ronald “Winky” Wright in May of 2005, the last time “Tito” saw live action, and if Jones Jr retains any of his quickness he may be able to replicate Wright’s success. 

A consistent jab has always caused problems for Felix Trinidad as the Puerto Rican bomber needs to get set to let loose with his solid straight right hands down the pipe and a whip-like left hook that at one time could rattle one’s molars. Oscar De La Hoya implemented a stiff jab for most of - but not all of - the bout between the two welterweights back in 1999. That was followed by Bernard Hopkins’ TKO success in 2001 and then perfected by jab-happy Wright in their painfully one-sided middleweight eliminator that prompted “Tito” to announce his retirement two days later. The problem for Jones though is that his jab has never been his weapon of choice, and he has always had a tendency to lie against the ropes during portions of rounds, covering up before countering. Still, this bout does set up as one that should see Felix Trinidad moving forward in flat-footed pursuit of the pot-shotting Jones Jr. 

While the bout certainly isn’t as appetizing as it was back in, say 2001, there still are many questions that the bout will answer. In that respect the fight is, at a minimum, interesting. 

Lost in time is the potential for an explosive bout that fight fans likely certainly would have witnessed if we were talking about these two boxers in their prime. But what remains is the intrigue of whether Jones can come all the way back from his devastating losses to Tarver and Johnson and what, if anything, “Tito” Trinidad has left in his boxing tank. For Roy Jones the motive seems that he simply wants to make it back on top and his supreme self-confidence has him thinking it remains a possibility even at the age of 38. Why Felix Trinidad would want back in after a two-year retirement and three years removed from his last win, and that over an over-blown and over-weight Ricardo Mayorga, remains a question mark. 

The fact remains however that, despite the detractors these two fighters have historically had, these two are likely to go down in boxing folklore as among the greats. What we will find out on January 26th, 2008 is whether two once-great fighters can still come together and make a great fight.

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donputo69:  trinidad via tko...in the 9th round.....yeah I said and what..
Friday Aug 31, 2007 05:52:09 PM
Chito:  BS donputo, BS! Tito has NO fu**ing power at 170. Sorry. He's taking the fight for the $. The public is being duped. These guys NEVER should have fought. It's like saying a prime Tyson should have fought Sugar Ray Leonard. WTF. These guys are SEVERAL weight classes apart, and the whole thing's a farce. If Tito wins, it's because RJJ is old and tired.
Saturday Sep 1, 2007 08:35:53 AM
Saly lover:  I agree with Chito that don really talks a lot of BS. But don is right that Trinidad will win by KO.
Saturday Sep 1, 2007 06:34:21 PM
Beatemup:  What??? Kinfolk.....My dawg bout to beat the intestines loose in ya body...Roy has been training, and is still training...Im talking about now! He is focused on fighting and nothing else...That's all we've been waiting for...What I want you to do donputo69 is hit up the sweet science after the fight.....You prolly won't though so I'll send you you a valentine in feb.....I said it....Me "BEATEMUP" WHAT IT DO????
Saturday Sep 1, 2007 08:17:44 PM
donputo69:  trust me..i will be here in this same room still talking B.S..win or lose..im a man of my words. and if roy "washed up"jones fights trinidad against the ropes like his last fight he had,,this fight wont last no more than 5 rounds..trinidad its gonna knock his silly ass wrinkle old you know what,,back to florida...
Saturday Sep 1, 2007 11:46:49 PM
staxbrix:  Theyll be close to even in speed,power,chin. But RJJ can box and move a little better, if it goes that way long boring win for RJJ. If Tito still has power he could hurt him even with the weight difference. Jones downfall was his chin and now aging skills. Tito was a force when he could slug it out with small guys, tough call.
Sunday Sep 2, 2007 01:04:43 AM
Son of Sam Peter:  The only way Tito carries power to 170 is by pulling a Panama Lewis. William Joppy, Fernando Vargas, and David Reid all accused Trinidad's handlers of illegally wrapping Tito's gloves. It hasn't been proven, but you can bet that Jones' lieutenants will be watching with a keen eye in the pre-fight dressing room.
Sunday Sep 2, 2007 12:46:54 PM
Salt lover:  Son of Sam Peter I really don't agree that those illegal hand rapping had anything to do wih Trinidad's punching power. After the fight with Hopkins, thay watched his hands wrapping very closely, and still he smashed Mayorga with his great punching power. And he will demonstrate his power again against Jones. You'll see. It's hard to see now, but the pncher is back, and when he kocks Jones out, everybody will cheer, like never before. Boxing's not the same without Tito. You'll see.
Sunday Sep 2, 2007 11:06:16 PM
Special Ed Gein:  Don King is smiling in the above photo for a reason. He isin an extremely peaceful place knowing boxing isin for quite a night. This will be one for the ages- bigger than the night 'fan man' made an unexpected visit to Ali-Frazier 2.
Monday Sep 3, 2007 12:41:21 PM
Execute 'The Night Stalker':  The Night Stalker has been on California's condemned row for 2 and a half decades. Arnold, we know you read TSS, so please sign the warrant and end this guy, and the misery of all his victims. My point is they should pull the plug on this fight, just like they should Richard Ramirez, TNS. This fight is bogus, an atrocity, a rip off! The public is being bamboozled, had, hoodwinked, led astray. It's bullspit.
Tuesday Sep 4, 2007 08:23:53 PM

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