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Angelo Dundee


Monday Sep 11, 2006

“Staying on his back, Inoki didn’t run any risks and he could kick Ali’s legs,” recalled Dundee. “When the match was over, Muhammad’s legs were full of hematomas and he had to go to the hospital.”

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Talking Boxing with Angelo Dundee

By Luca De Franco

Thousands of people work in the American boxing business, but the ones who really count total about fifty and they all know each other. One of them is Angelo Dundee. Probably, he is the only one liked by all the others. I met dozens of top guys in New York, Florida and New Jersey and nobody ever said a bad word about the legendary trainer. That’s because Angelo always treated everybody with respect and got it in return. The Philadelphia-born Hall of Famer always accepted the fighters for what they were and worked a way to develop their talent at the highest level:

“I managed every kind of fighter and I understood very quickly that every human being has his own approach to life. I didn’t try to change them. I just asked them to follow my advice inside and outside the ring, to be sure that they were 100% the day of the fight. I can proudly say that I became friend of every boxer I worked with. Some of them have a special place in my heart, like Muhammad Ali, Willie Pastrano and Ralph Dupas. When somebody told me that our business relationship was over, I just wished him the best and he kept no bad feelings for me. As a matter of fact, even the fighters who worked with me for a short time salute me with enthusiasm when I meet them at the big events.”

Every boxing fan knows the names of at least the majority of the fifteen world champions managed by Angelo Dundee. It couldn’t be any different, because some of them are legends like Muhammad Ali, Ray Leonard, George Foreman, Carmen Basilio, Willie Pastrano, Ralph Dupas, Jose Napoles and Ultiminio Ramos. Others have won a legitimate heavyweight title (Jimmy Ellis and Pinklon Thomas) and a few more made history in their own nation (like Olympic and world light heavyweight champion Slobodan Kacar).

The boxing community praises Angelo also because he could get the maximum out of average fighters. One of them was Johnny Holman, a heavyweight who fought from 1947 to 1957 building a record of 27 wins (17 KOs), 17 losses and 1 draw. His most famous bouts were against Ezzard Charles. The first fight took place on April 27, 1955 in Miami. Johnny Holman was considered a big prospect, but had his share of losses and his managers wanted to test him. Chris Dundee proposed a fight against Ezzard Charles: ten rounds, at the Miami Beach Auditorium. Charles had a record of 81-12-1 and was believed to be at the end of his career (instead, he was active four more years). The night of the fight, Joe Louis was in attendance; he was Holman’s idol and Angelo knew it. When Charles started beating up Holman, Angelo wondered what he could do to motivate his man. So, he went to the Brown Bomber and asked him to tell something to Holman. Joe Louis looked into Holman’s eyes and yelled: “Do you want to be KOed in front of all these people? Wake up and fight!” Holman fought with a ferocity never shown in his previous bouts, knocked down Charles in the 9th round, assaulted him again forcing the referee to declare the TKO. Angelo was smart enough to find a solution that nobody else would have imagined; but then, on June 8, 1955 in Cincinnati, Charles got revenge, by beating Holman on points.

Angelo Dundee’s unique ring savvy made him listened by his boxers. The only time that Muhammad Ali didn’t follow his advice was for the fight against pro wrestling legend Antonio Inoki. I call it a fight because that’s what it was. If it was a “work” (using a typical expression of the wrestling people), Ali and Inoki would have studied a spectacular choreography. Instead, the match turned boring with Inoki on his back for most of the time. Why? This is what Angelo told me:

“It’s very simple, Inoki knew that one of Muhammad’s punches would have been enough to end the fight. Staying on his back, Inoki didn’t run any risks and he could kick Ali’s legs. When the match was over, Muhammad’s legs were full of hematomas and he had to go to the hospital. I wouldn’t have accepted the bout because Ali could make the same money and get the same worldwide publicity through boxing, but Muhammad wanted to do it badly. As a matter of fact, he helped sell the fight, putting up a great show at every press conference. I think that Ali’s claims that he would knock out the Japanese wrestler convinced Inoki not to get into a brawl. On that occasion, I had a proof of how small the world is because the referee was Gene Le Bell. His mother was a boxing promoter based in Los Angeles: Aileen Eaton. She was a good woman and Gene is a good guy. I want you to meet him, if you ever to go Los Angeles.”    

Another legend Angelo worked with is Russell Crowe. The actor wanted Angelo in his corner when he played James J. Braddock in “Cinderella Man.” Angelo spent a lot of time with Crowe in Australia, following his training and advising him on how to be a credible boxer. Let’s hear it from Angelo:

“I told Wayne Gordon to follow Russell’s day-by-day training. They exercised together and sparred in the ring. Wayne is an excellent trainer and knows how I work. He did a great job with Russell. I gave Russell all the info he needed to be convincing as James J. Braddock: how he should move in the ring, how he should talk, what a boxer does in certain situations and so on. We became close friends and went out many times. Once, we went to the gym where Anthony Mundine was training. He was so excited to know me that he went back to the ring and gave a beating to his sparring partner. But he didn’t recognize Russell! When he realized that the man with me was Russell Crowe, he called all the newspapers to apologize. Later, Anthony and Russell became friends. This story may sound strange to most people, but you have to realize that Anthony comes from a boxing family. His father Tony built a record of 80-15-1 and challenged world middleweight champion Carlos Monzon losing by KO 7. I knew Anthony’ s father and grandfather. They always talked to him about me and that’s why Anthony was happy to meet me. ”

Angelo Dundee’s greatest accomplishment is that everybody was always happy to meet him.              

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Ken Hissner:  Nice story. Aoki lying on his back must have been such a disappointment to Ali and the crowd. One name among Dundee's champion's is hall of famer Luis Rodriguez, world welterweight champion, winner of over 100 bouts.
Monday Sep 11, 2006 08:25:02 AM
Fred Marratto:  Luca De Franco rings in the truth when he mentions that there are thousands who work in the American boxing business, but the ones who really count total about fifty and they all know each other...abosolute truth and one class act here is the subject of the story, Mr. Angelo Dundee. I thank Mr. Dundee for the time he spent with me over the phone offering me sage advice about how to go about my own career of training fighters.
Monday Sep 11, 2006 06:40:06 PM
"Bad" Brad Berkwitt:  Luca, We all love Ang and you did a great job with him as well! Keep up the great work... I am wondering do you have a contact number for him? One of my writers would like to interview him for our site. He used to have his office in Hollywood, but I heard he is no longer there..
Tuesday Sep 12, 2006 12:12:13 AM
William A Major:  I HAD THE PRIVILAGE OF MEETING ANGELO BACK IN 97 AT THE CARNIVAL OF CHAMPIONS IN NEW ORLEANS. I HAD A FIGHTER ON THE CARD,A FEMALE ACTUALLY THAT WAS FIGHTING FOR THE WIBF BANTAMWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP AND I WAS WITH VISITING WITH THE PROMOTOR THE DAY BEFORE THE SHOW WHEN HE GOT A PHONE CALL ,HE TALKED FOR A MINUTE TO THE PERSON ,HUNG UP AND CAME BACK TO OUR CONVERSATION. HE SAID ,THAT WAS ANGELO DUNDEE,HES ON HIS WAY UP,WOULD YOU LIKE TO STAY AND MEET HIM ? NOW,BEING IN LOVE WITH BOXING SINCE I WAS KNEE HIGH TO A GRASSHOPPER AND OF COURSE LIVING THROUGH THE LATE FIFTIES AND ON ,I WAS SO EXCITEDTHAT HE ASKED ME TO STAY,I SAID ARE YOU SURE THAT YOU WANT ME HERE ? I DONT WAANT TO BOTHER YOU GUYS OR NOTHING... HE SAID DONT WORRY ABOUT IT.RELAX AND SIT DOWN BEFORE YOU SCARE HIM. I GOT MYSELF TOGETHER AND IN COMES ANGIE,HE SAID HELLO TO BOBBY AND CAME OVER TO ME AND EXTENDED HIS HAND ,SAID,HI THERE IM ANGELO.HOLY CRAP! IS ALL I COULD THINK ! WHAT A NICE GUY HE IS,SO REAL AND NOT FULL OF HIMSELF,ALWAYS MAKEING THE PERSON HE'S TALKING WITH FEEL LIKE YOUVE KNOWN HIM ALL YOUR LIFE WHICH YOU REALLY HAVE IN A SENSE.HE ANNOUNCED THE SHOW THE NEXT DAY AND I NOTICED HOW EVERYONE ONE WHO FOUGHT AND DIDNT GET THE DECISION WAS TOLD BY HIM WHEN APPROACHED, "YOU WON " OR " I THOUGHT YOU WON " HE EVEN DID IT TO US. MADE YOU FEEL GOOD.TODAY IVE GOT A FEW PICTURES OF US TOGETHER ON MY GYM " WALL OF FAME" WHERE I HANG ALL THE PIC'S OF THE BOXING GREATS WE WERE BLESSED WITH THE HONOR OF MEETING .HE IS A TRUE ICON OF THE SPORT WHICH I LOVE, THANK YOU. BILL MAJOR
Tuesday Sep 12, 2006 12:48:37 PM
PAUL WILLIAMS:  I HAVE NOT HAD THE CHANCE TO MEET MR DUNDEE YET, BUT THE STORIES MY FATHER, FORMER MIDDLE WEIGHT CHAMPION OF FL. JIMMY WILLIAMS HAS TOLD ME, HE IS A GREAT MAN IN THE RING AND IN PERSON. I WAS WANTING KNOW IF I COULD GET A CONTACT NUMBER, BECAUSE MY FATHER WANTS TO GET IN TOUCH WITH MR. DUNDEE. ITS VERY IMPORTANT TO MY FATHER THAT GET IN TOUCH WITH MR. DUNDEE. THANK YOU!!
Tuesday Oct 30, 2007 06:18:30 AM
knute knudsen RN:  I have had the privlege of meeting Mr Dundee a number of times back in the early '90's. I worked for a ENT surgeon in Miami and Angelo would bring in his fighters before and after a fight for Dr Groff to examine. ( digressing, Angelo was also best man at Dr Groff's wedding) He would always take the time to chat and was just a fine gentleman. I am proud to have met him. 'only wish I had gotten his autograph, however, I shook his hand many times and will alway remember his kindness. A very unique and humble individualo
Sunday Jan 20, 2008 01:24:33 AM
russ Williams:  My question/comment is controversial---I loved the boxing style of Ralph Dupas---in my judgement or so it seems---few fighters could even lay a glove on Ralph while he was handled by Whitey Esnealth in New Orleans--after going international under Angelo Dundee the style seemed to change / become more aggressive---in order to please crowds---but this led to his pugilistic dementia and a nursing home right after retiring as a young man---what happened, Angelo--is there an adequate answer?
Saturday Jul 26, 2008 05:13:19 PM
Margie Marotti Harrison:  I grew up knowing the names of Angelo & Chris Dundee. My dad, Alex Marotti, from Youngstown Ohio, was trained and promoted by the two brothers in the 40's and 50's. Dad was also a candidate for the International Boxing Hall of Fame. Dad will be 81 years old Oct.12, 2008 and has Alzheimer’s. However, he is still a man of integrity, and a champion, fighting his way through this disease. I have mounds of memorabilia. Nonetheless, I want to talk to Angelo to get more of my dad’s story from the man that once believed in my dad, and whom my dad highly respects. If you can help me do that, it would be a ‘dream come true’! Thank you.
Sunday Oct 5, 2008 10:21:10 AM
Wan Ishak:  I seek your kind help to provide me the personal contact email for Angelo Dundee. I have a copy of a photo of him and me when he was here in Kuala Lumpur for the Ali Joe Bugner fight in 1974. I would like to email him a copy of that photo. We became a close acquaintance and he was so kind to extend me a complimentary ring side seat for that fight and I just wished I could meet him again if he ever wants to come back here to Malaysia.
Wednesday Dec 17, 2008 01:18:50 PM
kenny weldon:  I have known Angelo for about 40 years.He is one of the most knowledgable guys about the boxing game who has ever lived.If you do not like Angelo ,you probably don't like anyone.Especially yourself .But thats OK because Angelo likes you,even if you are ugly....God bless.....kenny weldon
Saturday Feb 28, 2009 08:06:56 PM
Luis P. Lim Jr.:  Angelo Dundee predicted that De le hoya will knock out Manny during Pacman/ dela hoya fight same prediction on Pacman / Hatton Fight, those predction was never happened, Thanks.
Thursday May 7, 2009 07:39:12 AM
DON baron:  dear mr. dundee..am a old fan of your way back to the 5th st. gym and pre muhamid ali day.. my friend ryan gamache joey nephew has read your book abot twenty times... would it be possible for me to fly him from the big apple where he now lives to miami..he would love to shake your hand... he is alos a boxer had a few fights..looks just like his uncle joey. my cell 305 206 5060 or i would fly you to the big apple my treat my loft is close to Gleasons and i would be honored if you would stay at my loft... which is 5000 square feet and i have a small gym in it don baron live in surfside
Monday Jul 20, 2009 08:11:02 AM

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