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James Toney


Sunday Jul 30, 2006

Team Toney, a Felliniesque-aggregate of family, sparring partners and acolytes (the only thing missing were the acrobats) filled the remainder of the five rows of folding chairs and clogged the doorway, raising the buzz to a GM assembly line level.

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Toney XXL

By Joe Rein

Nostradamus would have a gimme with James Toney.

It’s a medical problem: Knee-Jerk Zidane (a less pernicious strain of Duran-Tourette…sadly, incurable). But unlike ZZ, James only has flare-ups outside the ring. Canvas causes 47-minute remissions. For 23 hours, he’s on earthquake watch -- a seismic event going someplace to happen.

The recent tremor was at the new Palm restaurant in Los Angeles: a presser for Toney’s WBC 12-round heavyweight eliminator on SHOWTIME CHAMPIONSHIP BOXING against Samuel “The Nigerian Nightmare” Peter on Sept. 2, tabbed NO RISK, NO REWARD, at STAPLES Center, just across the street.

Note to Goossen Tutor: When you issue MEDIA ALERTS for Toney pressers -- like Gallagher shows – encourage raincoats right below ‘for working media ONLY!’ Understandable, considering the gourmet luncheon.

Pressers are no-muss no-fuss: Get the information out. Above all, run smoothly; the pricey room’s only booked for so long. Sure, there’s supposed to be some salty quotes and face making for the morning editions (or nanoseconds later on the web) but nothing that changes the architecture of the building …a safe bet with Toney. He starts with irascible and brings new meaning to G Rated.

Plus, with his history, it’s a re-hash -- just insert Peter’s name. And, if you’re under deadline, there’s file-footage of Toney presser explosions. There’s bound to be a 270-pounder; he flattens them for drill sparring at Wild Card… A little Photoshop…who’s to notice the difference? But, the temptation to see the happening live is too much.

After entrées that would make it criminal to write anything negative about the promotion, the media took seats in the front section of the banquet room, waiting for the curtain to go up. The principals, Samuel Peter, manager Ivaylo Gotzev and co-promoter Dino Duva took their places, with Dan Goossen, Toney’s promoter, at the podium, and reps from SHOWTIME and STAPLES Center in attendance. Only Toney was conspicuous by his absence – like the champ making the challenger wait.

Goossen, checking his watch and the door for any sign of Lights Out, soft-shoed, soliciting questions. One no-clue Teletubbie piped up with queries that were to reporting what Julie Louis-Dreyfus was to dancing on Seinfeld.

The Toney circus arrived not a second too soon.

James, in shades and a Guys-‘n’-Dolls butterscotch pinstripe, tricked-out with enough diamonds and platinum to warrant the presser at Ft. Knox, was the ringmaster at the center of the parade. Hip-hop “Pomp and Circumstance ” befitted his arrival. Let the games begin was in his swagger, impatience on his face -- a contrail of aggression in his wake.

Team Toney, a Felliniesque-aggregate of family, sparring partners and acolytes (the only thing missing were the acrobats) filled the remainder of the five rows of folding chairs and clogged the doorway, raising the buzz to a GM assembly line. No one just over 5’9” makes a bigger entrance.

Samuel Peter, big as he is, in a pinstripe that would cover Dodger Stadium, was invisible. It was like sharing the screen with Steve McQueen. He was a spectator at this show.

“How’s it feel fighting in L.A., Dawg?” one of JT’s Detroit homies shouted out.

L.A. gonna be Detroit for one night,” Toney beamed. “D Block in the house!”

The usual Alphonse ‘n’ Gaston ensued -- each side praising the other for taking the fight. We’re not going to sink to the level of the others you’ve seen. Toney drummed on the table with his fingers.

When Peter mumbled in the cadence of South East Nigeria in response to how he’ll do against Toney, a reporter blurted out, “I don’t understand?” Toney crooked an eye, “He said he’s gonna beat me. Next question!” (Redd Foxx couldn’t have thrown it away better.) With every utterance, he strutted sitting down.

He doesn’t answer questions; he suffers them. It took more endurance to sit there than do 12 rounds.

The sniping picked up slowly, with Toney jabbing over Duva’s remarks -- the needle sharper each time from both. Toney, shaking his head, sniggering – exasperated, “Talkin’ about me like he gonna run through me like Swiss cheese.” It was Groundhog Day for the 77th time. Caltech was warning a Magnitude 6.5. No chance of an implosion.

Then, in a coup of statesmanship, Duva put a ten-ton straw on the camel’s back.

With an eye to the box-office, after giving Toney faint praise for his skills; he called him dumb for taking the match. Russian roulette with live rounds. Warming to the task, Duva put some sinew in it the second time, leaning closer to Toney from the podium.

“You talk a lot for a guy that’s not getting in the ring, old man.  You sound like you want to fight me,” Toney spat.

From Goossen’s swivel-around and lynch’m sentiments from Tonyites, Duva realized he may have stepped over the line and tried to smooth things. Looking at the mother of James’s children – doing his best Rodney King, ‘Why can’t we all just get along?’ Duva explained, “I didn’t mean you when I called James dumb…” Why isn’t he patching things up in Lebanon?

A shouting match between Toney, Duva and Gotzev escalated from predictable to out-of-control (which fits Toney better then “Lights Out”). Photogs scampered for angles. We were at DEFCON 3 – no Ali wink and nudge.

(The tip-off to a faux show: the guy that goes berserk is usually in sweats, not an ad for Jacob The Jeweler.)

Adding fuel to the fire, a front-runner with the Toney hoards called-out Duva to bet on his man. “Pick your poison!” Toney snapped.

He wanted at Duva and Gotzev, ripping off his jacket that cost more to tailor then most cars. (Hard to hide the chip on his shoulder.) He drew no distinction between Godzilla and milquetoast: a slight means being rendered limb-from-limb and ground to powder.

It took all of the king’s horses and all of the king’s men to restrain him; he was bucking like a Brahman. Goossen’s eyes rolled, “Here we go again.”

Toney went from zero-to-Vesuvius from the git-go, flinging a glass of water at Duva and Gotzev, spraying Goossen -- acting as honest broker -- and Peter, while he struggled to break free and disembowel the manager and promoter, knighted “Dumb and Dumber,” by Goossen.

With a wall of muscle shielding them, Duva and Gotzev, (now looking like an enraged flamenco dancer with his slicked black hair and knitted brow) berated Toney at blood-oath intensity. (Shades of Johnny Friendly taunting Terry Malloy in ON THE WATERFRONT.)  Their number three heavyweight contender -- damp suit, not withstanding -- didn’t stampede to their defense. This wasn’t his arena. “I do not do my fighting at a press conference,” he said. “I do my fighting in the ring.” (Succinct, if a little stilted, like his style.) 

It may portend for the bout. We were in a no-man’s land – no rules. Though Peter can separate a man from his senses (and his head from his body) with either hand, if it wasn’t for his dam-busting power, he’d be one more lumbering brute drilled in a gym to box -- a learned fighter, a manager’s hope to cash-in on heavyweight money, not a fast-twitch improviser like Toney.

On TV, the scuffle’s a giggle before the weather report. At Ground Zero, it’s a bar brawl -- large bodies blurring by. The chaos is not the worry; it’s the collateral damage.

While Toney was being bulldogged away by his camp, kicking, cursing and frothing, Goossen, ever the trooper in the midst of shot and shell, kept rattling-off the attractive seating packages to the few that weren’t caught up in the tsunami carrying Toney out of the room and down the staircase past wide-eyed business-lunchers and out the front door.

On the way out, some spit-balled precautions for James’ next presser: maybe a Hannibal Lecter rig, or shackled like Sampson; but with his hair grown in maybe they tried and failed. No one asked. Toney has a Bobby Knight-affect on questioners.

The biggest opportunity missed -- with all the yelling back and forth -- is why Toney’s lead and counter rights -- landed so flush – didn’t dent Rahman at all?  Is it as his critics insist: He shouldn’t be in with dreadnaughts?

Jim Hill, the CBS Sports TV anchor, still nimble as his NFL cornerback days, kept a mic in Toney’s face, dancing backwards down the stairs while The Bulls of Pamplona were thundering.

Out on the sidewalk, Toney, ringed by press poking microphones like banderoles, bellowed and paced with the hell he was going to visit on Duva and Gotzev when they came out. All of it unintelligible, as if scrunched by a tight headgear.

Toney was at home: center stage – the man, roiling and boiling for a fight, as large and animated as the two-story figure of Kobe Bryant plastered on the side of the Palm.

Fed up with waiting for Gotzev and Duva to exit, Toney’s claque left en mass like a swarm of killer bees, angrily buzzing.

The chickens eventually come home to roost. All of James’s excesses will one day come due. But for one night in September, before injury and age claim him, get a glimpse of old school, the doppelganger from Detroit – not the rampaging bully, but one helluva fighter. “Not no boxer, not a runner, not no track star.”  

Within 20 feet under ring lights, he’s all about business…and what a businessman!

The five-time world champion may give up youth, every physical advantage and single-sock power, but Peter will be in against legends: Eddie Booker, Holman Williams, Charley Burley, and mostly, Archie Moore; Toney’s channeled them all.

With all Toney’s cunning, Peter may have the power to do what no one else has, but it won’t detract from what Toney’s accomplished, except for those who have the knife out for him for not looking like the Spartan ideal or a role model.

What Peter doesn’t know is: Toney has renewed incentive; if he wins, his crossover appeal is unlimited: Public Broadcasting is fighting the FCC’s ban on profanity.

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Isaiah:  I would just like to say that Toney is going to run through the " Nigerian Nightmare " like stink on a bum. Peter's got no chance. What kind of heavyweight division do we have nowadays that Toney, a former middleweight, and what is he, 37 years old and his body is really not built to be a heavyweight, could be the best heavyweight in the world?! I'll say this about Samuel Peter though. He's younger, stronger, hits harder, has a longer reach, a steel chin, and guess what, Peter is still going to get his butt handed to him. How is that possible with all of Peter's physical advantages? I'll tell you all why! It's because James Toney is the last old school fighter there is still fighting, ( Bernard Hopkins is retired right?... ) his heart and endurance are super high, and his boxing skills are superb and far beyond Peter's. Toney may not knock him out because he really belongs around 210 pounds, but he'll box circles around Peter all night! Maybe somebody should tell Peter that he can bend his knees and move and try not to get hit. My gosh, that's why Wladmer Klitschko outclassed him regardless of three knockdowns! On a side note, you think we could have a box off for the real championship of the world between Klitschko and Rahman?! ( The Ring's number 1 and 2 contenders ) Kltschko vs. Shannon Briggs and Rahman vs. Maskaev is a total waste of time and fights Klitschko and Rahman could really regret. Also Klitschko vs. Toney would be really good to, but first let's get the biggest stuff out of the way. ( And no, Rahman's WBC piece of crap or any of the others other than " The Ring " count as the world championship. ) Only in boxing is it unclear of who the top dog or top team in the world is, or at least to such an insane and greedy point. ( sanctioning fees, I mean. ) I'm not saying " The Ring " has never had any flaws but the corruption of the editors from the 1970's are long gone. This is a new genration. Just look at the title lineage of each group and A.) see who's been around the longest, B.) How are the titles won or lost and C.) Isn't it about time boxing is given the respect it deserves? For all the bad the mainstream media reports, where are they when good and honor happens in it? Am I the only who will say, damn it, we are boxing fans and we will not be ignored! Also, I don't work for " The RIng ", but someone has to say something.
Monday Jul 31, 2006 01:23:15 AM
darrell simon:  dsimon writes: I was laughing so hard that I woke the family up and the husky thinks that I am insane. I can't get the fellini image out of the ole melon. While some want to send Duva to Lebanon for entirely different reasons, I have learned not to doubt his profound ability to backpedal from the perfect verbal touche. Couldn't Joe just have written the standard blurb with all the W's neatly placed? maybe a dispariging comment about Toney's weight and Peter's powers of observation? Cause something like this kind of spoils one ya know? A thoroughly enjoyable read I feel like i was at the conference.
Monday Jul 31, 2006 10:24:52 AM
rio001:  great piece on toney just curious what type of shape he was in
Monday Jul 31, 2006 06:35:29 PM
joe Rein:  He's never gonna look like Frank Bruno, rio, but he looked much fitter than I've seen him this far from fight in the last two-three years. He was anxious to get out of the presser and back to training. From what I understand, he's been doing that for about a month, four sessions a day, between gym work and conditioning.
Monday Jul 31, 2006 07:53:10 PM
Ourumov:  James Phoney has been throwing punches at every press copnfrence he attends for about ten years now and he ain't hit anything yet. What a joke (hold me back, I'm about to beat up Kathy Duva).
Monday Jul 31, 2006 11:53:47 PM
Ace@FightFan.com:  A nice read Joe! Having spent time at the Wild Card myself it's no stretch to imagine some of the things you mention in Toney's disposition. I liked the tone of your article and I agree that no matter what happens Toney is one of the last of the Old School fighters. And thanks for the reference to ON THE WATERFRONT. Seems like that film isn't mentioned nearly as much as it should be in boxing circles. If you ask me, JT's going to give Peter a one-way ticket to Palookaville! Cheers.
Thursday Aug 3, 2006 07:50:50 PM
Marlon:  I agree with Ace, Toney is one of the last (if not the last) old school guys in the business. He is a notorious trash talker but he can box. He is out gunned but as I've stated before, he has so many tricks up his sleeve that I feel like a fool picking Peter to win. Although Peter is bigger, stronger, and younger that Toney. But with all that being said, this is boxing not football. Peter is known to be sloppy and lacks good technique, Toney is technically sound and very experienced. If Peter is afraid to let his hands go, and fights a sloppy fight, he wont land a glove on Toney. But if he lets his hands go and bullies Toney around a bit, Peter may make it home in time to watch the replays. This is a hard one to call, but that is what the division needs. Some uncertainty and some excitement. Great article.
Monday Aug 28, 2006 09:57:30 PM

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