What IF former heavyweight champions Sonny Liston and Mike Tyson faced each other
on their best night? Imagine Liston and Tyson staring each other down seconds
before the first round. Other than possibly former heavyweight champ George Foreman,
Liston and Tyson were the masters at psyching out their opponents before the fight.
Ironically, it was Liston's lead that Foreman and Tyson both emulated when it
came to playing the intimidation game.
In recent years Sonny Liston and Mike Tyson have often been compared to each
other. They both were tremendous two-handed punchers, and both demonstrated
a sturdy chin. They also had their share of run-ins with the law, and both served
time in prison. It seemed the safest place for them was in the ring, with its
legalized mayhem. However, there were also several differences in how they were
brought along and how they were perceived by the public.
The fanfare was night and day different for Liston and Tyson when they turned
pro. Liston didn't have the PR machine behind him that Tyson had. In fact, Liston
was the anti-Tyson of his era. Liston had to fight all the top fighters of his
era one by one before finally getting a shot at heavyweight champ Floyd Patterson,
and the title shot was still three years overdue. Whereas Tyson had an image
manufactured by millionaires and marketing companies. Tyson could pick and choose
opponents he could look impressive beating. Thus, the Tyson marketing machine
had him in position to fight for the title a little over a year and a half after
he turned pro.
Sonny Liston fought at a time when fighters could fight every month and still
not garner much exposure. Tyson had the benefit of having HBO and Don King promote
and show all of his fights shortly before he won the title, and then during
his title tenure. Liston's career was handled by the mob. When Liston was coming
up - and even after he reached the top - the media and the fans were hoping
he'd lose. On the other hand, Tyson was the crowd’s darling just about
his entire career. Tyson was always hyped to be bigger than life, whereas Liston
was just feared because of what he did to the top heavyweights of his era.
Charles "Sonny" Liston took up boxing in prison. When Liston was
paroled in 1952 after an armed robbery conviction, he started fighting competitively
as an amateur. In 1953 he won the National Golden Gloves. Sonny turned pro in
late 1953 and won his first 7 fights before losing a decision to Marty Marshall
in his 8th fight, a fight in which he suffered a broken jaw. Liston would go
on to fight Marshall two more times, stopping him and decisioning him. After
doing a couple more prison stints over the next few years, Liston was the top-ranked
and most feared heavyweight in the world by 1958.
For the next four years Liston was avoided by heavyweight champ Floyd Patterson.
During that time Liston was going through all the top heavyweights - opponents
who Patterson's management team had kept their fighter away from. After Liston
chased Patterson for over three years, they finally met in September of 1962.
After two minutes of the first round Liston did to Patterson what many thought
was inevitable - he destroyed him and took his title. Ten months later Liston
defended the title against Patterson and needed only two more seconds to repeat
his title winning effort.
Seven months later Sonny would lose the title to Cassius Clay as a 7-1 favorite
when he didn’t emerge from his corner for the seventh round. In the rematch
15 months later, Clay - who had changed his name to Muhammad Ali - defeated
Liston, stopping him in the first round of a bizarre fight. A fight in which
Liston never was given a count, yet was declared a knockout loser?
After losing to Ali, Liston would fight for five more years, going 15-1 (14).
His lone loss would be a KO defeat to contender Leotis Martin in his next to
last fight. Seven months after defeating Chuck Wepner in his final fight, Liston
was found dead in his Las Vegas home due to a drug overdose. The two defeats
by Muhammad Ali tarnished Liston's legacy forever as an all-time great heavyweight
champ. However, his skill and fighting ability will never be in question.
Mike Tyson’s path into boxing was similar to Liston and many other fighters
who went on to become champions. He was a troubled youth who found his way into
trouble by hanging out and fighting in the streets. Like Liston and Foreman
before him, Tyson was a man-child who had no trouble bettering grown men in
street fights as a young teenager. Tyson was eventually brought to legendary
trainer Cus D' Amato to be evaluated as a fighter. D' Amato was best known for
managing and training former heavyweight champ Floyd Patterson. Under the tutelage
of D' Amato, Patterson became the youngest champ in heavyweight history at 21.
Although D' Amato died a year before it happened, 30 years later Tyson captured
the title at age 20, eclipsing Patterson's record.
After losing in the finals of the 1984 Olympic trials to Henry Tillman twice,
Tyson turned pro in March of 1985. Tyson blew through the heavyweight division,
demonstrating a combination of speed and punching power never seen before. On
November 22nd, 1986, Tyson became the youngest heavyweight champ in history
when he stopped WBC Champion Trevor Berbick in two rounds. Nine months after
beating Berbick, Tyson became the unified champ when he won a 12 round decision
over IBF Champion Tony Tucker. After making six defenses of the unified title,
Tyson was upset by 42-1 underdog Buster Douglas in Tokyo Japan. When Douglas
knocked out Tyson in the 10th round in February of 1990, he forever shattered
the aura of invincibility that surrounded Tyson.
After the loss to Douglas, Tyson had his ups and downs in and out of the ring.
Out of the ring he was convicted of rape and spent three years in prison from
1992-95. When Tyson was released from prison he returned to the ring and captured
the WBA and WBC titles a little over a year later. In his first defense of the
WBA/WBC titles, he was stopped by long time rival Evander Holyfield in 11 rounds.
In the rematch seven months later, Tyson would lose to Holyfield via disqualification
when he bit both of Holyfield’s ears. Tyson said after the fight that
he bit Holyfield's ears in retaliation for Holyfield head-butting him during
the fight. After losing to Holyfield, Tyson would challenge for the heavyweight
title once more. In June of 2002 Tyson was stopped by heavyweight champ Lennox
Lewis in eight rounds. Since losing to Lewis, Tyson has been a non-factor in
the heavyweight title picture.
The Style Match up
A Liston-Tyson confrontation is fascinating from a style vantage point. Both
Liston and Tyson sought the knockout exclusively to win their fights. They both
had to be moving forward to be most effective, although it was less of an issue
for Liston. Liston moved forward behind a ram-rod, left jab. Tyson moved in
with his hands held up to his chin with side-to-side head movement. Liston fought
at a more measured pace, looking to set everything up off of his powerful jab.
Tyson fought in spurts. Sometimes he would rush in behind a two handed assault,
and other times he would work his way in underneath his opponent’s jab.
Both Liston and Tyson had knockout power in both hands. Their power was pretty
close, but the difference was Tyson had the faster hands and was a little more
accurate with his punch placement. However, Liston had the better inside-outside
game. Tyson had to be on his opponent’s chest to be effective. On the
other hand, Liston could neutralize movers and boxers with his jab and reach.
Liston was also effective inside throwing short hooks and uppercuts. Although
they were both considered sluggers, both Sonny and Mike were better boxers than
generally given credit for by most writers and fans.
It's safe to say that neither fighter faced a fighter like the other. The closest
fighter Liston fought to Tyson was Floyd Patterson. Although Patterson wasn't
as big or powerful as Tyson, he did have the speed and fought out of the peek-a-boo
style like Tyson, and was least effective when forced back, like Tyson. On the
other hand, the only fighter Tyson fought who was somewhat close to Liston was
Lennox Lewis. Both Lewis and Liston could fight at a distance or inside. Lewis
was bigger than Liston, but wasn't as tough mentally and didn't have a jab in
quite the same league as Liston's. As far as styles go, Liston was vulnerable
to fast-footed boxers with lateral movement, and was at his best if his opponents
came to him, which not too many tried. Tyson was most effective versus fighters
that moved away or ran from him, but was at a disadvantage when facing a fighter
who could force him back.
Who Would've Won
A Liston-Tyson confrontation comes down to two things: who would've backed up,
and who would've been the least intimidated by the other. I know this may not
be popular, but I just can't envision Liston being intimidated by Tyson. Liston
had no fear of Clay/Ali, and on top of that he kept going after a hard puncher
like Cleveland Williams, who was in his prime at the time, even after having
been nailed by bombs from Williams. Liston also chased down Marty Marshall despite
having a broken jaw for the majority of the fight. This is in contrast to Tyson,
who would go into long defensive shells and stop throwing punches when faced
with an opponent who attacked him with big shots. I believe in a battle of wills,
Sonny convinces Mike that he's not going to win easier than Mike convinces Sonny
that it's not his night.
The fact that I think Liston wins the psychological warfare translates into
the physical fight and how it plays out. I think Tyson may try to jump on Liston
like he did Holyfield and Lewis at the onset. The first round or two would be
incredible. Tyson would probably come on very quickly, almost recklessly, and
his movement and fast hands might provide him with a measure of success. But
then he'd face his first problem, Liston wouldn't fall. And, of course, Liston
always fired back.
All it would take would be a few of those telephone pole jabs to take all the
starch out of Tyson mentally. I also doubt he'd have the nerve to pull any ear-biting,
arm-breaking crap with Liston. Once Tyson gets second thoughts about coming
in with impunity and starts to think his way through the fight, he's in trouble.
The moment Liston senses that Tyson has some reservations, he'd pick up the
pace and apply even more mental and physical pressure.
The way I see it, Liston stops Tyson. He had the jab reach and power, along
with the style, to neutralize Tyson and his greater hand speed. On top of that,
Sonny takes away Tyson's biggest weapon, the intimidation factor. It says here
that Tyson is the one who harbors self-doubt, and it is Tyson who would be unsure
of himself during the stare down as he faced Liston in the center of the ring
before the bell for round one.