Kirkland Manager Confirms Tucker Is In, Wolfe Is Out

Undefeated with the person who knows him best as an athlete, knows best what buttons to push when, and when to lay off…yet James Kirkland is going to to spurn the undeniable, and work with someone other than Ann Wolfe for his May 2 clash against Canelo Alvarez.

As first reported Feb. 8 on Fight Saga, the Texan Kirkland has tapped Gerald Tucker, a 36 year old Las Vegas resident, to work his camp and corner come fight night.

Kirkland’s manager, the Texas attorney Mike Miller, told me that indeed, he learned that his boxer has hooked on with Tucker. He wasn’t…enthusiastic when we processed the choice.

“I’d never heard of him,” he told me. “It remains to be seen how it goes. We hope it works out.”

Miller made an analogy to the Cowboys switching coaches before the Super Bowl. Perhaps a part of him hopes that maybe Kirkland works with Tucker, feels that maybe it’s better to adhere to the “don’t fix what ain’t broke” adage, and gets back on the Wolfe train.

Miller says he always goes with what the fighter chooses as corner-persons, as it makes sense for them not to be working with someone against their will. But Miller admitted he saw and heard the blowback from all spheres, people puzzled at the Kirkland choice.

Certainly, the onus is upon Tucker now, and the stakes are immense. If Kirkland and he click and the Texan upsets the red-head, his rep goes to the moon, on a buzz rocket…

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-stormcentre :

Hmmmn . . . . . . Interesting. Kirkland and Ann clearly are not getting on. James obviously doesn't want her shouting and psychologically traumatizing him during preparation for Canelo, or after it about losing. Maybe he doesn't even want her sharing the joy of success either. Onto other matters, I thought Gerald Tucker trained guys out of 50 Cent's gym? Wonder where all the training is going to go down . . . is it there? Wonder if there's a S & C team member thrown in as well, and who that is?


-brownsugar :

[br] /[/br]Undefeated with the person who knows him best as an athlete, knows best what buttons to push when, and when to lay off?yet James Kirkland is going to to spurn the undeniable, and work with someone other than Ann Wolfe for his May 2 clash against Canelo Alvarez. As first reported Feb. 8 on Fight Saga, the Texan Kirkland has tapped Gerald Tucker, a 36 year old Las Vegas resident, to work his camp and corner come fight night. Kirkland's manager, the Texas attorney Mike Miller, told me that indeed, he learned that his boxer has hooked on with Tucker. He wasn't?enthused..when we processed the choice. "I'd never heard of him," he told me. "It remains to be seen how it goes. We hope it works out." Miller made an analogy to the Cowboys switching coaches before the Super Bowl. Perhaps a part of him hopes that maybe Kirkland works with Tucker, feels that maybe it's better to adhere to the "don't fix what ain't broke" adage, and gets back on the Wolfe train. Miller says he always goes with what the fighter chooses as corner-persons, as it makes sense for them not to be working with someone against their will. But Miller admitted he saw and heard the blowback from all spheres, people puzzled at the Kirkland choice. Certainly, the onus is upon Tucker now, and the stakes are immense. If Kirkland and he click and the Texan upsets the red-head, his rep goes to the moon, on a buzz rocket...
Any hope I had for Kirkland has just spiraled violently down a toilet bowl-like vortex named "WTF!"


-The Commish :

...and if the red-Mexican shmears and pummels him, the closest he will be getting to a big fight after that is a ringside seat as a fan! -Randy G.


-stormcentre :

Hey guys we all hit it 10.36pm . . . . ESP or what? :)


-King Beef :

Big mistake!! Can't believe JK decides to bring in a relatively "green" corner for his biggest opportunity so far. I know supposedly he an Wolfe's relationship is a strange yin and yang, but hell, he is undefeated with her.


-stormcentre :

Perhaps James is tired of having Ann place her . . hands . . whoops . . . I mean a steering wheel, . . . down his pants and driving him nuts.
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?19493-Canelo-Kirkland-is-on&p=75162&viewfull=1#post75162


-King Beef :

Hmmmn . . . . . . Interesting. Kirkland and Ann clearly are not getting on. James obviously doesn't want her shouting and psychologically traumatizing him during preparation for Canelo, or after it about losing. Maybe he doesn't even want her sharing the joy of success either. Onto other matters, I thought Gerald Tucker trained guys out of 50 Cent's gym? Wonder where all the training is going to go down . . . is it there? Wonder if there's a S & C team member thrown in as well, and who that is?
Last thing I saw was that Tucker was training out of 50's gym, but the camp is in San Antonio. The S&C team is headed by Bremond "Bam Bam" McClinton and Rick Morones.


-stormcentre :

Last thing I saw was that Tucker was training out of 50's gym, but the camp is in San Antonio. The S&C team is headed by Bremond "Bam Bam" McClinton and Rick Morones.
OK - ta. Wonder how much of Ann's (legitimate) strength and conditioning routine Bremond and Rick will adopt?


-King Beef :

OK - ta. Wonder how much of Ann's (legitimate) strength and conditioning routine Bremond and Rick will adopt?
probably not much, He has a pretty good rep for his work with the Spurs, so he probably will do his own thing. there's a pretty good article on fightsaga about the choice.
->http://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/5271-Canelo-Alvarez-vs-James-Kirkland-Mandingo-Warrior-drops-Ann-Wolf,-hires-relative-unknown


-The Commish :

Hey guys we all hit it 10.36pm . . . . ESP or what? :)
That's funny. As I was writing, there were no posts on here. Then, as I hit "Post Quick Reply," my post was right after brownsugar. Then I left for a minute, browsed at a few threads, then came back to this one and--Presto!!!--there you were, storm. Yeh, this should be a fun fight. A SHORT, fun fight. I'm gonna' miss not seeing/hearing Ann. I'm afraid Kirkland will miss her, too! -Randy G.


-stormcentre :

I think I need to know whom Kirkland is sparring and what cardio he's doing; with these new guys, before I completely write him off. But I admit, it's not looking good. That said, if you're not getting on with your trainer - let alone of she's as dominant as Wolfe is - then it's no way to head into the biggest fight of your life. I mean, let's be fair here . . . Ann is about as dominating a force in a boxing gym (for James) as an active galactic nuclei's accretion disk's astrophysical jets emitted from its feeding black hole's quasar-engine is, to its host galaxy. She's not quieting down, resting or going to sleep, for a while.


-brownsugar :

Yep agreed what a serious coincidence Commish, Storm....I was on the he poetry site trying to write about the topic of the day..... a pair of scissors... When I decided to bake some oatmeal cookies to help me go to sleep. I realized I hadn't been to TSS most of the day and decided to see what's poppin'.... And there it was ....JK seemingly going left of center yet again. Surprisingly JK is not too bad a boxer.... Google KJ vs Brian Versa to see him at his best. I never really picked up on why JK fell out with GB and Wolfe a while back. Those two seemed like the people who were helping him the most. Canelo is probably relieved.


-brownsugar :

I think I need to know whom Kirkland is sparring and what cardio he's doing; with these new guys, before I completely write him off. But I admit, it's not looking good. That said, if you're not getting on with your trainer - let alone of she's as dominant as Wolfe is - then it's no way to head into the biggest fight of your life. I mean, let's be fair here . . . Ann is about as dominating a force in a boxing gym (for James) as an active galactic nuclei's accretion disk's astrophysical jets emitted from its feeding black hole's quasar-engine is, to its host galaxy. She's not quieting down, resting or going to sleep, for a while.
Anne Wolfe as astrophysics..... love it!


-stormcentre :

Oh you caught me half way through editing my last post BS. I accidentally posted before completion. Which surely must be the forum equivalent of premature ejaculation, something Ann is claimed to have had experience in preventing for fight-game purposes. Anyway, looks like we're all thinking about this fight right now. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think I need to know whom Kirkland is sparring and what cardio he's doing; with these new guys, before I completely write him off. But I admit, it's not looking good. That said, if you're not getting on with your trainer - let alone of she's as dominant as Wolfe is - then it's no way to head into the biggest fight of your life. I mean, let's be fair here . . . Ann is about as dominating a force in a boxing gym (for James) as an active galactic nuclei's accretion disk's astrophysical jets emitted from its feeding black hole's quasar-engine, is to its host galaxy. They're (both pairs; James and Ann, and also the bipolar/relativistic jets that constitute the most energetic display of nature in the universe and their black hole singularity-master) both eternally connected but not always in perfect harmony. And like all that matter and energy spinning around in the accretion disk nervously waiting to be either devoured by the black hole’s inescapable pull - or energetically spat out across deep space; Ann’s not quieting down, resting or going to sleep, for a while. James knows that. And if he’s going to eventually burn out and collapse under his own weight anyway, then better to enjoy the ride and luminosity of it all while it lasts, in relative peace - for the job at hand that is.


-stormcentre :

Oh you caught me half way through editing my last post BS. I accidentally posted before completion. Which surely must be the forum equivalent of premature ejaculation, something Ann is claimed to have had experience in preventing for fight-game purposes. Anyway, looks like we're all thinking about this fight right now. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think I need to know whom Kirkland is sparring and what cardio he's doing; with these new guys, before I completely write him off. But I admit, it's not looking good. That said, if you're not getting on with your trainer - let alone if she's as dominant as Wolfe is - then it's no way to head into the biggest fight of your life. I mean, let's be fair here . . . Ann is about as dominating a force in a boxing gym (for James) as an active galactic nuclei's accretion disk's astrophysical jets emitted from its feeding black hole's quasar-engine is - to its host galaxy. They're (both pairs; James and Ann, and also the bipolar/relativistic jets that constitute the most energetic display of nature in the universe and their black hole singularity-master) both eternally connected but not always in perfect harmony. And like all that matter and energy spinning around in the accretion disk nervously waiting to be either devoured by the black hole’s inescapable pull - or energetically spat out across deep space; Ann’s not quieting down, resting or going to sleep, for a while. James knows that. And if he’s going to eventually burn out and collapse under his own weight anyway, then better to enjoy the ride and luminosity of it all while it lasts, in relative peace - for the job at hand that is. ;)


-yomi :

This adds another 100m of ice to the top of the mountain that Kirkland has to climb to win this fight. Can't see him doing it ...


-The Commish :

Around two years ago on my show, Kirkland said, "What makes Ann and me such a great team is that we know each other and understand each other. I've gotten as mad as hell with her and she has gotten as mad as hell with me. But we know each other. We click. When I get back to the corner, she will not hold back in telling me what I am doing wrong and what I should do." When we asked him, "Can another trainer do the same thing with you in a corner?" he replied "No way! If somebody else do that, if somebody else even dares get in my face, I'll knock him the F*** out!" I believe that to be true. Kirkland is a volatile character. In the ring, he may be as close to a young Mike Tyson's persona as I have seen. His strength is phenomenal, as seen in his fight against Glen Tapia. When referee Steve Smoger went to push Kirkland off of Tapia at the end of the fight, Kirkland blew right past the soon-to-be-inducted into the IBHOF ref (not that Smoger is any tower of physical strength!). Then, Smoger threw himself over Tapia to stop the fight. He stopped it, all right. As he was draped over Tapia, pinning him to the ropes, a wild, enraged Kirkland punched right over the top of Smoger's left shoulder with a brutal left. The punch landed on the pinned, helpless Tapia's face. If he wasn't KTFO'd before, he certainly was, then. It was a clear picture of how not to stop a fight. It was also a picture of the ferocity of Kirkland. Whether or not he'll have that ferocity against Alvarez is yet to be seen. Also to be seen is what happens if the fight begins to get tough and Kirkland starts to hit the wall with something I call "oxygen debt." When he gets back to the corner, there will be no Ann Wolfe there to inspire him to pull victory from the jaws of defeat. It'll be a group of guys he recently teamed up with, against the thoughts of so many, including his manager. Will they speak to him softly? Will they yell and scream at him? If they do yell, they had best be prepared for something that could be surreal. Like the rest of us, Ann Wolfe will be home, watching on TV. I'd give anything to see and hear her reaction to the fight. -Randy G.


-stormcentre :

Yep, it's certainly not simplified the task of looking at the possibilities. Or perhaps it has. The McGorian relationship states that a black hole’s mass is usually ? a percent of the mass of its surrounding galaxy. Big deal boxing lovers (and others) may say! However, perhaps as a consideration the principle has application, or even remote purpose, here. The McGorian relationship is no small deal. You can't just wipe it away with a tissue and then dispose of it down the toilet. Not if you respect power, domination and fate. And that's because there is no greater power or more significantly energetic event known to man or the universe than super massive feeding black holes. Some are calculated to be thousands the time of the mass of our sun, just invisibly sitting there dominating - quite literally - events on a truly massive, eternal, and infinite scale. A supernova is but a hiccup or burp for a galaxy dominated by such phenomena. You see what the McGorian relationship, effectively states, pound for pound, is as astounding as saying something (you can't see that's) as small as a coin or grape can completely control something the mass/size of the earth. The math, probability, relativity, and statistics involved in such considerations are almost beyond the scope of a human brain. As are other associated considerations. Not in the least as the brain (and the body that houses it) itself (and the earth) is - like heavy and valuable elements such as gold - actually forged and/or created from matter originating deep within a supernova. So, as we humans keenly investigate the world through our restricted senses and eyes glued to powerful telescopes - wondering what it all means, and hoping to glean new information that uncovers another piece of the mystery - perhaps ultimately explaining what our purpose in both the universe and life is; we are ourselves a part of the paradox. As, the actual art/act of the mind/body looking and searching the skies and stars in such a enigmatic way . . . . is itself, incredibly, also both a part and product of the overall mystery it seeks to solve; all as the mind is being supremely astonished by the larger genesis of itself, the universe, and all mysteries. As we look up and out we often forget that we're a part of, and created by the mystery and that we seek to explain. Enigma meets enigma - mystery meets mystery. The infinitely adolescent child endlessly attempting to answer questions that the parents themselves wouldn't dare to ask due to all the expected impossibilities. Sometimes there's no escaping fate. Or, "destiny" for those who like to make to sound as if they have control over their lives. So why am I saying all this? Sometimes the things you can't see are just as real as those you can. Sometimes the things you can't see are just as real as those you can and control them. I hope James doesn't get dominated like the surrounding matter of a feeding black hole. Or perhaps he can see what we can't? After all, for all our claims he needs to stay with Ann; no-one has offered any congratulatory information on her strategic thinking when it comes to the real boxing and tactics. And even though Canelo is no Benny Leonard in that respect, James is going to need some of that noise in his ear as he bumps, grinds, and prepares for his big shot at boxing-fame. Someone famous once said the eyes are for experiencing the stars/universe, as are the ears music. If that's the case then check this out . .
->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3_84-MP8CQ Perhaps the answer to all the questions are there in that beautiful melody. Perhaps James needs an Angel. I say that, because if the answers are actually locked up in Kirkland's latest move, then statistically that has uncanny similarities to above-mentioned McGorian axiom; where small, invisible, and unseen phenomenon possess unimaginable power and control not only fate - but also super-massive/perplexing, tangible and known phenomena. There is a saying amongst astronomers and astrophysicists; nothing dominates like a feeding black hole. Right now all we know is James is gravitating towards a spectacularly high energy cataclysmic event. What we don't know is whether that high energy cataclysmic event means James is swallowed up, disappearing into a dimension we can't perceive. Or whether he is jettisoned up and out where his fate it to glow with the hyper-luminosity associated only with those that overcome great danger and odds.


-stormcentre :

Yep, it's certainly not simplified the task of looking at the possibilities. Or perhaps it has. The McGorian relationship states that a black hole’s mass is usually ? a percent of the mass of its surrounding galaxy. Big deal boxing lovers (and others) may say! However, perhaps as a consideration the principle has application, or even remote purpose, here. The McGorian relationship is no small deal. You can't just wipe it away with a tissue and then dispose of it down the toilet. Not if you respect power, domination and fate. And that's because there is no greater power or more significantly energetic event known to man or the universe than super massive feeding black holes. Some are calculated to be thousands the time of the mass of our sun, just invisibly sitting there dominating - quite literally - events on a truly massive, eternal, and infinite scale. A supernova is but a hiccup or burp for a galaxy dominated by such phenomena. You see what the McGorian relationship, effectively states, pound for pound, is as astounding as saying something (you can't see that's) as small as a coin or grape can completely control something the mass/size of the earth. The math, probability, relativity, and statistics involved in such considerations are almost beyond the scope of a human brain. As are other associated considerations. Not in the least as the brain (and the body that houses it) itself (and the earth) is - like heavy and valuable elements such as gold - actually forged and/or created from matter originating deep within a supernova. So, as we humans keenly investigate the world through our restricted senses and eyes glued to powerful telescopes - wondering what it all means, and hoping to glean new information that uncovers another piece of the mystery - perhaps ultimately explaining what our purpose in both the universe and life is; we are ourselves a part of the paradox. As, the actual art/act of the mind/body looking and searching the skies and stars in such a enigmatic way . . . . is itself, incredibly, also both a part and product of the overall mystery it seeks to solve; all as the mind is being supremely astonished by the larger genesis of itself, the universe, and all mysteries. As we look up and out we often forget that we're a part of, and created by the mystery and that we seek to explain. Enigma meets enigma - mystery meets mystery. The infinitely adolescent child endlessly attempting to answer questions that the parents themselves wouldn't dare to ask due to all the expected impossibilities. Sometimes there's no escaping fate. Or, "destiny" for those who like to make to sound as if they have control over their lives. So why am I saying all this? Sometimes the things you can't see are just as real as those you can. Sometimes the things you can't see not only are just as real as those you can - sometimes they control them too. I hope James doesn't get dominated like the surrounding matter of a feeding black hole. Or perhaps he can see what we can't? After all, for all our claims he needs to stay with Ann; no-one has offered any congratulatory information on her strategic thinking when it comes to the real boxing and tactics. And even though Canelo is no Benny Leonard in that respect, James is going to need some of that noise in his ear as he bumps, grinds, and prepares for his big shot at boxing-fame. Someone famous once said the eyes are for experiencing the stars/universe, as are the ears music. If that's the case then check this out . .
->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3_84-MP8CQ Perhaps the answer to all the questions are there in that beautiful melody. Perhaps James needs an Angel. I say that, because if the answers are actually locked up in Kirkland's latest move, then statistically that has uncanny similarities to above-mentioned McGorian axiom; where small, invisible, and unseen phenomenon possess unimaginable power and control not only fate - but also super-massive/perplexing, tangible and known phenomena. There is a saying amongst astronomers and astrophysicists; nothing dominates like a feeding black hole. Right now all we know is James is gravitating towards a spectacularly high energy cataclysmic event. What we don't know is whether that high energy cataclysmic event means James is swallowed up, disappearing into a dimension we can't perceive. Or whether he is jettisoned up and out where his fate is to glow with the hyper-luminosity associated only with those that overcome great danger and odds.


-The Commish :

Yep, it's certainly not simplified the task of looking at the possibilities. Or perhaps it has. The McGorian relationship states that a black hole’s mass is usually ? a percent of the mass of its surrounding galaxy. Big deal boxing lovers (and others) may say! However, perhaps as a consideration the principle has application, or even remote purpose, here. The McGorian relationship is no small deal. You can't just wipe it away with a tissue and then dispose of it down the toilet. Not if you respect power, domination and fate. And that's because there is no greater power or more significantly energetic event known to man or the universe than super massive feeding black holes. Some are calculated to be thousands the time of the mass of our sun, just invisibly sitting there dominating - quite literally - events on a truly massive, eternal, and infinite scale. A supernova is but a hiccup or burp for a galaxy dominated by such phenomena. You see what the McGorian relationship, effectively states, pound for pound, is as astounding as saying something (you can't see that's) as small as a coin or grape can completely control something the mass/size of the earth. The math, probability, relativity, and statistics involved in such considerations are almost beyond the scope of a human brain. As are other associated considerations. Not in the least as the brain (and the body that houses it) itself (and the earth) is - like heavy and valuable elements such as gold - actually forged and/or created from matter originating deep within a supernova. So, as we humans keenly investigate the world through our restricted senses and eyes glued to powerful telescopes - wondering what it all means, and hoping to glean new information that uncovers another piece of the mystery - perhaps ultimately explaining what our purpose in both the universe and life is; we are ourselves a part of the paradox. As, the actual art/act of the mind/body looking and searching the skies and stars in such a enigmatic way . . . . is itself, incredibly, also both a part and product of the overall mystery it seeks to solve; all as the mind is being supremely astonished by the larger genesis of itself, the universe, and all mysteries. As we look up and out we often forget that we're a part of, and created by the mystery and that we seek to explain. Enigma meets enigma - mystery meets mystery. The infinitely adolescent child endlessly attempting to answer questions that the parents themselves wouldn't dare to ask due to all the expected impossibilities. Sometimes there's no escaping fate. Or, "destiny" for those who like to make to sound as if they have control over their lives. So why am I saying all this? Sometimes the things you can't see are just as real as those you can. Sometimes the things you can't see not only are just as real as those you can - sometimes they control them too. I hope James doesn't get dominated like the surrounding matter of a feeding black hole. Or perhaps he can see what we can't? After all, for all our claims he needs to stay with Ann; no-one has offered any congratulatory information on her strategic thinking when it comes to the real boxing and tactics. And even though Canelo is no Benny Leonard in that respect, James is going to need some of that noise in his ear as he bumps, grinds, and prepares for his big shot at boxing-fame. Someone famous once said the eyes are for experiencing the stars/universe, as are the ears music. If that's the case then check this out . .
->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3_84-MP8CQ Perhaps the answer to all the questions are there in that beautiful melody. Perhaps James needs an Angel. I say that, because if the answers are actually locked up in Kirkland's latest move, then statistically that has uncanny similarities to above-mentioned McGorian axiom; where small, invisible, and unseen phenomenon possess unimaginable power and control not only fate - but also super-massive/perplexing, tangible and known phenomena. There is a saying amongst astronomers and astrophysicists; nothing dominates like a feeding black hole. Right now all we know is James is gravitating towards a spectacularly high energy cataclysmic event. What we don't know is whether that high energy cataclysmic event means James is swallowed up, disappearing into a dimension we can't perceive. Or whether he is jettisoned up and out where his fate is to glow with the hyper-luminosity associated only with those that overcome great danger and odds.
So, basically, I guess what all that means, is we ain't gonna' know squat until the punches start flying and until Kirkland is in need of his untested corner for help. In that case, James Kirkland may need more than an Angel. He's gonna' need Annie! -Randy G.


-stormcentre :

Well . . . . since you're calling me out. ;) Truth is I actually had a more tangible and significant purpose (to the real story) for all the ancillary and astrophysical information - but it all flew out of my mind as some real work flew in the door and distracted my writing and dreaming. I tend to pump this stuff out without too much forethought, otherwise it doesn't flow. The downside of that is if I get distracted then it can all go down the gurgler. Perhaps, I'm showing my priorities here, as work - at work - should not be the distraction. Still, I thought I saved it reasonably well. James - no matter how you look at it - is (like matter in an accretion disk surrounding a dominating black hole) dancing with danger and spinning around an inevitability; with only a few possible but equally violent and cataclysmic outcomes. As you say, it would be interesting to get a window into Ann's thinking as the preparation and fight goes down. Even after. You're analogy between a young Tyson and Kirkland is pretty good. James struggles with the meaning of it all, life, and what difference he can make. It's a silent fear a lot of men and fighters have. And in that sense there is a connection back to my above-mentioned stargazing comments.