Wilder Weighs 219; Did The Bronze Bomber Over-Train?

219 on a tall man can make the fella a sturdy specimen. 219 pounds on a 6-6 1/2 man can make the long tall fella look a bit on the stringy side.

Some words, of the “doesn’t he look a tad skinny?” variety, were exchanged at the MGM in Vegas on Friday, when the Bronze Bomber scaled in at 219 pounds, the lightest he’s been since 2012, when he weighed 217 against Owen Beck. That lack of bulk–he’s been 224 or more his last six outings–didn’t hamper him, it seemed; Beck didn’t make it out of the third round.

And so I don’t think we can go out on any sort of limb, beyond a guessing one, when Wilder tangles with and tries to snatch the WBC heavyweight belt from Bermane Stiverne (on left, Wilder above right, in Hogan photo), who was 239 Friday, right about what he weighed for his last fight, a win (TKO6) over Chris Arreola.

Might his chin hold up better with more meat on his limbs? Perhaps; we can engage in weight debate if indeed something suggests, in his performance tonight, that being light hurt him. His advisor and cornerman Jay Deas, weighed in on the 219 reading late Friday night.

Was Wilder overtrained, I asked Deas, a fellow Alabaman: “It’s only a few pounds (less than he’s weighed of late),” Deas told me. “It was a longer camp. He’s in great shape. And I’m not sure the scale was right. He was 223 or 224 (on a different scale).”

Food for thought? Maybe not. If he wins, it’s all good. If he loses, maybe we revisit it, maybe not.

Photo Credit: Esther Lin

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COMMENTS

-brownsugar :

Phisical peak, ...prime condition, .... a coiled titanium spring, ....weaponized for maximum destruction are a few thoughts that come to mind.


-stormcentre :

Bermane doesn't look too trim.


-Skibbz :

6ft7 at 219? I thought he'd come in a little heavier, maybe a lot heavier.


-The Good Doctor :

Bermane doesn't look too trim.
Interesting you say that. I agree but he is coming in lighter than he has been in his last four fights which date back to 2011. Maybe a switch in regimen?


-amayseng :

6ft7 at 219? I thought he'd come in a little heavier, maybe a lot heavier.
Light and athletic is his gift. He needs to stay within his strengths as he is not a fundamental fighter at the least. I still see BS's slickness giving him fits.


-Skibbz :

When was the last time Bermane came in trim? That internal and external fat would take more than a few months to shift. He might not be built of pure muscle but he's got enough in the tank to go the full distance as he's proven several times in the past, and he is deceptively fast. As soon as he slips one of those poor Wilder jabs he'll be landing his short punches and that's all that'll matter.


-brownsugar :

Interesting you say that. I agree but he is coming in lighter than he has been in his last four fights which date back to 2011. Maybe a switch in regimen?
Agreed Good Doc. Stiverne has never looked this fit... His body type is naturally "chunky" but that's just genetics. With both guys coming in so lean and mean.... There is no doubt both competitors are ready to throw down in a major way. We won't be disappointed. One way or another... This event lives up to the hype.


-Radam G :

Agreed Good Doc. Stiverne has never looked this fit... His body type is naturally "chunky" but that's just genetics. With both guys coming in so lean and mean.... There is no doubt both competitors are ready to throw down in a major way. We won't be disappointed. One way or another... This event lives up to the hype.
Wow! It is much, much more than genetics. It is definitely his choices of foods. Dude loves processed foods, especially sweets. If he dumps the sweets, especially the white breads and white flour products, he loses 50 pounds. OMFG! They all put on fat when they come to the U.$. mainland and jump on the bad eating-habit crew. Holla!


-amayseng :

Wow! It is much, much mire than genetics. It is definitely his choices of foods. Dude loves processed foods, especially sweets. If he dumps the sweets, especially the white breads and white flour products, he loses 50 pounds. OMFG! They all put fat when they come to the U.$. mainland and jump the bad eating-habit crew. Holla!
USA is a notoriously disgusting country when it comes to eating.


-stormcentre :

When was the last time Bermane came in trim? That internal and external fat would take more than a few months to shift. He might not be built of pure muscle but he's got enough in the tank to go the full distance as he's proven several times in the past, and he is deceptively fast. As soon as he slips one of those poor Wilder jabs he'll be landing his short punches and that's all that'll matter.
Yep, get whatcha mean. But, he just doesn't look like a guy that's worked hard in the camp/gym for 3 months before a heavyweight fight. I did expect he would look a bit . . shall we say . . (more) taught, from this camp. Still, if the guy still has that relaxed power and can keep away from the fight Wilder wants, good for Stiverne.


-King Beef :

Wonder if Wilder is coming in alittle lighter in preparation for a longer fight, or if he plans to be on the move alittle if need be.


-brownsugar :

Wow! It is much, much more than genetics. It is definitely his choices of foods. Dude loves processed foods, especially sweets. If he dumps the sweets, especially the white breads and white flour products, he loses 50 pounds. OMFG! They all put on fat when they come to the U.$. mainland and jump on the bad eating-habit crew. Holla!
I can't tell you what Siverne eats, but many athletes will never be muscularly defined no matter what kind of food they put in there bodies. Bermane was chunky before he even had dreadlocks. Dude will never have a ripped physique.


-The Commish :

I spoke to Deontay a day before he broke camp in Tuscaloosa and headed for Las Vegas. He has never been a "weight-watcher," for he has no reason to be one. He basically lives in the gym and has no poor eating habits. I happened to catch him moments after he had jumped off the scale in his gym. "I just weighed 223," he told me. He didn't do anything different when he got to Las Vegas. I have a feeling the scale at the MGM was off by a few pounds. It made each guy a little lighter (Many of us would like to have been weighed in on that scale!). So, Wilder weighed 219 while Stiverne weighed 239. Yeh, right. Wilder 223 and Stiverne 243 is more like it. I have to feel the weight won't matter, unless this becomes a two-sided, George Foreman-Ron Lyle-like shootout, where BOTH guys are completely spent and punched out. Then, the 20 pound weight difference may matter. I doubt it will be a two-sided affair. The judges will NOT be necessary. I just hope there's no controversy and referee Kenny Weeks stops it at the right time. For those who have SiriusXM, I will be doing a post-fight special with Gerry Cooney on channel 92, immediately after the fight ends. So, before you hit the pillow or while you are in the car headed home from the "fight party" you just attended, give us a listen. Call in toll free and be a part of the show at 1-866-522-2846. Tell the call screener you are with TSS and he will make sure you are put ahead of the other callers. Hope to speak with a lot of you guys later. -Randy G.


-Radam G :

It is storming in the P-Islands, and Pope Francis is da BOMB! Holla!


-DaveB :

Both guys are 219. Bermane has 20 pounds of hair in the back it looks to me. So how is he going to do at this lighter weight (if they require a haircut)?


-The Commish :

Both guys are 219. Bermane has 20 pounds of hair in the back it looks to me. So how is he going to do at this lighter weight (if they require a haircut)?
Lol. There is nothing light about Stiverne. Not his hair. Nor his body. Not his weight. Not his punches. Believe me, he is more than 239. It won't matter. Somebody is going down. Hard! -Randy G.


-brownsugar :

I spoke to Deontay a day before he broke camp in Tuscaloosa and headed for Las Vegas. He has never been a "weight-watcher," for he has no reason to be one. He basically lives in the gym and has no poor eating habits. I happened to catch him moments after he had jumped off the scale in his gym. "I just weighed 223," he told me. He didn't do anything different when he got to Las Vegas. I have a feeling the scale at the MGM was off by a few pounds. It made each guy a little lighter (Many of us would like to have been weighed in on that scale!). So, Wilder weighed 219 while Stiverne weighed 239. Yeh, right. Wilder 223 and Stiverne 243 is more like it. I have to feel the weight won't matter, unless this becomes a two-sided, George Foreman-Ron Lyle-like shootout, where BOTH guys are completely spent and punched out. Then, the 20 pound weight difference may matter. I doubt it will be a two-sided affair. The judges will NOT be necessary. I just hope there's no controversy and referee Kenny Weeks stops it at the right time. For those who have SiriusXM, I will be doing a post-fight special with Gerry Cooney on channel 92, immediately after the fight ends. So, before you hit the pillow or while you are in the car headed home from the "fight party" you just attended, give us a listen. Call in toll free and be a part of the show at 1-866-522-2846. Tell the call screener you are with TSS and he will make sure you are put ahead of the other callers. Hope to speak with a lot of you guys later. -Randy G.
I heard Wilder say the same thing at the weigh in yesterday (223) so I'm thinking there was a legit scale malfunction, either that or Wilders metabolism has gone into hyperdrive. Wilder wasn't gaunt or skeletal looking either.... his face wasn't sunken in and he seemed to be his usual boisterous self. Definitely not underweight. I'm very close to changing my prediction due to some things I saw on several YouTube videos yesterday. WILDER CAN TAKE THIS!!!!!!! Mainly Bermanes deficit in the foot speed department. I wouldn't have considered this as a fight party type of fight...but the buzz has increased to such a degree that I couldn't resisist sending out a few invites.


-Radam G :

I heard Wilder say the same thing at the weigh in yesterday (223) so I'm thinking there was a legit scale malfunction, either that or Wilders metabolism has gone into hyperdrive. Wilder wasn't gaunt or skeletal looking either.... his face wasn't sunken in and he seemed to be his usual boisterous self. Definitely not underweight. I'm very close to changing my prediction due to some things I saw on several YouTube videos yesterday. WILDER CAN TAKE THIS!!!!!!! Mainly Bermanes deficit in the foot speed department. I wouldn't have considered this as a fight party type of fight...but the buzz has increased to such a degree that I couldn't resisist sending out a few invites.
It is just the tricks of the trade. The game has plenty of them. WAY, WAY, WAY back in da day when ev'ybodee and dey momma wanted to go for the gusto and moolah and fight at heavyweight. So the scale was always jived up. If a pug weight 160 or so fighting against a 190 pounder or so, the powers that be would just make the scale 15 pounds of so heavier to give an appearance of 180 against 205. Back then, they made pugs heavier with lies about the weight. Nowadays they make fatties lighter.Holla!


-Radam G :

I can't tell you what Siverne eats, but many athletes will never be muscularly defined no matter what kind of food they put in there bodies. Bermane was chunky before he even had dreadlocks. Dude will never have a ripped physique.
Go holla at him when he was a 200-to-220 pound amateur. During that time he also had aspirations of becoming a footballer in Canada and eventually the United States. He put on 20 to 40 when he suffered knee injuries and arrived in Sin City to do the pro thing. When it comes to body flab and fat, genetics are only 10 percent, according to famous Dr. Oz, and dieting and exercising and attitude are 80 percent. Holla!


-brownsugar :

Go holla at him when he was a 200-to-220 pound amateur. During that time he also had aspirations of becoming a footballer in Canada and eventually the United States. He put on 20 to 40 when he suffered knee injuries and arrived in Sin City to do the pro thing. When it comes to body flab and fat, genetics are only 10 percent, according to famous Dr. Oz, and dieting and exercising and attitude are 80 percent. Holla!
I did RG...he was still chunky.


-brownsugar :

While we are on the subject... Some people are predistined generically to get plumb, or chunky when they get older. I respect your opinion... But I personally believe Stiverne could never get ripped like Deontay. The trade off is ....physical appearance means nothing as far as it applies to an individuals strength. Appearance is a good indicator. But far from being a determining factor. BTW... I'm switching my pick to Wilder.... I can stomach a little crow meat if my decision backfires. Enjoy the fight!


-Domenic :

While we are on the subject... Some people are predistined generically to get plumb, or chunky when they get older. I respect your opinion... But I personally believe Stiverne could never get ripped like Deontay. The trade off is ....physical appearance means nothing as far as it applies to an individuals strength. Appearance is a good indicator. But far from being a determining factor. BTW... I'm switching my pick to Wilder.... I can stomach a little crow meat if my decision backfires. Enjoy the fight!
Exactly. A scoffed guy that had serious firepower was the late Corrie Sanders. Southpaw with blistering speed and straight shots. He landed, goodnight.


-deepwater2 :

They yanked sanders of a golf pitch.


-Skibbz :

Stiverne's going to break Deontay's face in for him, Deontay's will come out winging and swinging with reckless abandon as always but this time it won't be a heavy bag on the receiving end!


-Radam G :

Stiverne's going to break Deontay's face in for him, Deontay's will come out winging and swinging with reckless abandon as always but this time it won't be a heavy bag on the receiving end!
Amen, Eye of Europe. I can see that all the ways from the P-Islands. You move, you lose, B-Sug. You are going to need to give D-Wild a hug. As Skibbz said, D-Wild is going to have one serious busted-up mug. B-Ware is gonna squash dat Bamabore like a bug. Holla!


-Radam G :

I did RG...he was still chunky.
At least B-Ware didn't get as big as his distance cousin Cuban pug Odlanier Solis. This dude also was a 195-200-pound amateur. But as a pro, he became a 300-pound, bad knee chump. Holla!