Andre Ward Signs With Roc Nation

The rumor mill has been grinding for months now. Andre Ward severing ties with Goossen Promotions, and going to Roc Nation boxing, to be their building block as Jay Z and company seek to make their imprint a massive one on the sweet science.

Rumor became reality today, and Ward took to social media to break the news.

((It’s official!! #NextChapter Happy to be a part of the @rocnation family. #RocNationSports #SOG))

That went out at about 11:30 AM, and coincides quite nicely the debut of Roc’s first fight card. That takes place TONIGHT, at the MSG Theatre, with Dusty Harrison-Hernandez in the mainer, against Tommy Rainone. You can watch on Fox Sports 1. I will be calling it with Gus Johnson and Rich Marotta, full disclosure…

 

NOTE: I called over to Goossen Promotions, and talked to matchmaker/exec Tom Brown. He amiably offered a “no comment” when asked about the Ward contract dissolution/resolution and he said they all were preferring to look forward, not backward.

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-The Commish :

[br] title="Andre Ward Signs With Roc Nation"[/br] The rumor mill has been grinding for months now. Andre Ward severing ties with Goossen Promotions, and going to Roc Nation boxing, to be their building block as Jay Z and company seek to make their imprint a massive one on the sweet science. Rumor became reality today, and Ward took to social media to break the news. ((It's official!! #NextChapter Happy to be a part of the @rocnation family. #RocNationSports #SOG)) That went out at about 11:30 AM, and coincides quite nicely the debut of Roc's first fight card. That takes place TONIGHT, at the MSG Theatre, with Dusty Harrison-Hernandez in the mainer, against Tommy Rainone. You can watch on Fox Sports 1. I will be calling it with Gus Johnson and Rich Marotta, full disclosure... We will collect info on how this went down, and when and who Ward might fight next...
Roc Nation is now officially a powerhouse in the world of boxing promotion! A big congratulations to them! -Randy G.


-Froggy :

Bad news for tsAH, but great news to me !


-stormcentre :

OK great. Now for fcks sake let's (promote this brilliant fighter who seems to have almost all the qualities it takes to be an ATG) and make the best fights out there - including the Kazak STORMtrooper and/or Krusher - ASAP. And then when it's all said and done and when (if?) Ward's hand is raised. . . hopefully a lightening bolt of wisdom from the gods will strike, and he will then - up there on the podium whilst the world watches - thank and give praise to Dan. Rock on Roc Nation and Ward; here come's someone that potentially may well be Mayweather's successor. "Knock, knock". "Hello, does Carl Froch live here"? "As I heard he was having trouble making a big fight with Chavez, and was considering retirement if a big fight doesn't happen soon"?


-stormcentre :

OK great. Now for fcks sake let's (promote this brilliant fighter who seems to have almost all the qualities it takes to be an ATG and) make the best fights out there - including the Kazak STORMtrooper and/or Krusher - ASAP. And then when it's all said and done and when (if?) Ward's hand is raised. . . hopefully a lightening bolt of wisdom from the gods will strike, and he will then - up there on the podium whilst the world watches - thank and give praise to Dan. Rock on Roc Nation and Ward; here come's someone that potentially may well be Mayweather's successor. "Knock, knock". "Hello, does Carl Froch live here"? "As I heard he was having trouble making a big fight with Chavez, and was considering retirement if a big fight doesn't happen soon"?


-stormcentre :

OK great. Now for fcks sake let's (promote this brilliant fighter who seems to have almost all the qualities it takes to be an ATG and) make the best fights out there - including the Kazak STORMtrooper and/or Krusher - ASAP. And then when it's all said and done and when (if?) Ward's hand is raised. . . hopefully an (en)lightening bolt of wisdom from the gods will strike, and he will then - up there on the podium whilst the world watches - thank and give praise to Dan. Rock on Roc Nation and Ward; here come's someone that potentially may well be Mayweather's successor. "Knock, knock". "Hello, does Carl Froch live here"? "As I heard he was having trouble making a big fight with Chavez, and was considering retirement if a big fight doesn't happen soon"?


-brownsugar :

Heard that also....and like a burning bush, burning in the wilderness but not being consumed by the fire...Chavez Jr spoke....he said a couple days ago that he wanted to make the fight....at least that's what was reported on Boxing Scene a couple days ago. Hopefully we'll be hearing more soon.


-stormcentre :

Heard that also....and like a burning bush, burning in the wilderness but not being consumed by the fire...Chavez Jr spoke....he said a couple days ago that he wanted to make the fight....at least that's what was reported on Boxing Scene a couple days ago. Hopefully we'll be hearing more soon.
Hope that's really the case BS. I mean, even if JCC does want the fight, there is still the condition of the man - which is usually a, "gee whiz, what if I step it up to 3 days a week, that should do it" kind of fitness. One where he seems to rely on his punch resistance to make up for what his, preparation, enthusiasm and stamina lacks. The, of course there is Top Rank, and I can't see Bob letting Chavez fight unless something gives in what has otherwise been a bit of a gridlock of negotiations. Still, it (or any of those I have pitched) would be a good fight.


-Pazuzu :

Alright, so we've all been moaning Ward's prolonged absence from the ring due to his dispute with Goosen. Now that he's signed the (surely fat) deal with Roc Nation, do we now have to give him credit for sticking to his guns and making a masterful business move, or did he still just waste a year of his prime, or is it too soon to tell? I'm leaning towards the first option, but we'll have to see what he does this year. I hope he gets busy soon and fights two or three times in 2015. I'm also excited to see Roc Nations first big championship card. Championship boxing + Rihanna = heaven. (Side query. Didn't GGG end up with K2 though a similar move where they bought him out of his prior contract under another promoter with whom he was unhappy? I seem to recall someone on these pages mentioning this.)


-Skibbz :

I say forget about the past and watch how he acts in the present. We have all made mistakes, nobody is perfect, and we can at least gather that by binning his former and signing this deal that he has learned from the year out and is still hungry to be back on the P4P list, where he belongs. I'm really excited too to see what Jay Z can pull off, it should be a great year for the sport. I heard a rumour that Broner turned down a 5 year $40m offer from Jay Z? I laughed it off as only a rumour.. Broner won't make half that in his career so he'd bite off Jay Z's hand if that was truly offered.. No?


-Pazuzu :

Yeah, I think we're going to see great things from Roc Nation. This will not be a marginal SMS-style outfit. RN is already well established with marquee names in the music biz and boasts a stable of tier 1 talent from other major sports (ndomukong suh vs deontay wilder? hmmmmmm....) TsAH must be eating his heart out, watching the way RN is putting it all together. Dreams of faded youth, and opportunity gone by...


-King Beef :

I say forget about the past and watch how he acts in the present. We have all made mistakes, nobody is perfect, and we can at least gather that by binning his former and signing this deal that he has learned from the year out and is still hungry to be back on the P4P list, where he belongs. I'm really excited too to see what Jay Z can pull off, it should be a great year for the sport. I heard a rumour that Broner turned down a 5 year $40m offer from Jay Z? I laughed it off as only a rumour.. Broner won't make half that in his career so he'd bite off Jay Z's hand if that was truly offered.. No?
Not sure of the actual offer, but there is a video of Broner be interviewed about it. He says it was 5 years/40 mil, fighting twice a year. He thinks he is worth way more than that for some reason or another, also said he is gonna fight 4 times this year so the offer is ridiculous ( go figure), also offended that Jay didn't come talk to him himself lol.
->http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhIu9vjqLxtLnzuAo7


-stormcentre :

Yeh, well Broner is taking boxing to a nuther level. So her deserves more cash than what JZ offered. What does JZ know? Right? LMAO


-stormcentre :

Just sign the deal on the condition that there is a renegotiation rider (based on performance) in there DH . . . I mean AB.


-stormcentre :

Alright, so we've all been moaning Ward's prolonged absence from the ring due to his dispute with Goosen. Now that he's signed the (surely fat) deal with Roc Nation,
Question 1) Do we now have to give him credit for sticking to his guns and making a masterful business move. Or did he still just waste a year of his prime, or is it too soon to tell? I'm leaning towards the first option, but we'll have to see what he does this year. I hope he gets busy soon and fights two or three times in 2015. I'm also excited to see Roc Nations first big championship card. Championship boxing + Rihanna = heaven.
Question 2) (Side query. Didn't GGG end up with K2 though a similar move where they bought him out of his prior contract under another promoter with whom he was unhappy? I seem to recall someone on these pages mentioning this.)
Within reason, answers to above questions are; yes and yes. Particularly if we judge actions on their final outcomes. As so often happens in boxing. Ward's issues with GTP were mostly based on "principles, morals, and expectations", which rarely translate accurately across into the legal and pseudo legal domain. Not in the least - as a very successful lawyer friend of mine once told me - never go to court on principle; only ever for an achievable outcome. Even he admitted (with a wry smile) that the only ones that usually win are "us" (the lawyers). And, no, I don't think the layoff will hurt Ward that much - especially if we consider the benefits to his body of recuperating. The guy has been training/fighting for years, and has now probably fully recovered from his earlier surgery in ways he couldn't have hoped to had he remained active - anyway, that's just my opinion.. He has also had a good opportunity to now better "look" at the boxing landscape. Once Ward gets himself into PPV territory - which shouldn't be too long - I think he will tear some azz up; above, possibly below, and around 168.


-Shoulder Roll Defense :

Hey SOG, WWJD? I don't think he would sign with Roc Nation. I couldn't help but think that Ward was out of place in the audience sitting next to Jay-Z watching Fabulous perform. Personally, I can't knock him for getting the best deal that he can financially, but his image has taken a hit in some circles considering he is a devout Christian.


-brownsugar :

Hey SOG, WWJD? I don't think he would sign with Roc Nation. I couldn't help but think that Ward was out of place in the audience sitting next to Jay-Z watching Fabulous perform. Personally, I can't knock him for getting the best deal that he can financially, but his image has taken a hit in some circles considering he is a devout Christian.
I couldn't help thinking the same thing SRD... especially with some fans literally worshipping J-Z's talented wife Beyonce who claims to channel the spirit of an ancient performer/warrior named Sasha Fierce and J-Z wearing tee-shirts emblazened with the motto of the famed deceased satanist/occultist, Aliester Crawley which proclaims...." Do what thou Wilt ". To this day I've never read an official statement from Beyonce regarding the young woman who allegedly sacrificed herself to the deity called by her own namesake. Also both J-Z have done nothing to dissuade the rumors that they are the new illuminatti and their faith ( known as the 5 percenters ) is built upon the belief that certain people ( like themselves ) can obtain godhood while they are clothed in their mortal bodies. I'm at work so i didn't have time to Google this stuff. There could be errors.....And I don't know if the rumors were manufactured to facilitate a free source of viral publicity or if they are truly into this stuff. So take it with a pinch of salt. Also J-Z was actually criticized buy fans when he refused to denounce the name of Jesus Christ during an award event were a minister spoke a few religious words. J-Z was cagey with his response not wanting to get himself embroiled in too much controversy...knowing that too much controversy has the reverse effect of just enough rumor to create curiosity. But yeah there is an amazing amount of controversy regarding J-Z ...but absolutely no lack of cash...power and influence. The bible does say "be ye cunning as serpents yet harmless as doves" And Ward is a very cunning man.


-Pazuzu :

Hey SOG, WWJD? I don't think he would sign with Roc Nation.
I don't think Jesus would beat up other dudes for a living. Just saying.


-Froggy :

I don't think Jesus would beat up other dudes for a living. Just saying.
I think you are right, but I also think the bible condones violence sometimes and Freddy Roach has probably found every example of it to point out to Manny Pacquiao to get back his killer instinct !


-Pazuzu :

I think you are right, but I also think the bible condones violence sometimes and Freddy Roach has probably found every example of it to point out to Manny Pacquiao to get back his killer instinct !
Well, like the man said, 'my Father's house has many mansions." And if that's the case, I'm pretty sure there's a special one just for the pugs.


-Radam G :

I think you are right, but I also think the bible condones violence sometimes and Freddy Roach has probably found every example of it to point out to Manny Pacquiao to get back his killer instinct !
I found the examples. Religion -- the Christian one -- was born out of and is because of violence. God Created the world out of violence. He threw the devil out heaven with violence. He threw Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden with violence. And kept them out with an Angel flaming a sword of violence. Dinosaurs were violently ruling the earth until a meteor violently dropped from the heaven pulverized their arses. Nuns "lovingly"used violence on my teenage, out-of-control arse, or I probably would have been one of the greatest mass murderer of all times. Menopausal Mother Nature be taking humans, animals and plants out with violence storms every time you turn around. And I won't even get started with Father Time. With your body, trouble come double with dat muthajoka FT. Violence is a beautiful and needed thing. Without it there is no way art, STEM -- science, technology, engineering and mathematics -- and art, poetry, politics, medicine, nutrition and sports. And there would be no wars to keep crazy-arse dictators from arising. Why does ev'ybodee and dey momma always to try to act like all types of violence are bad or anti Christian? Holla!


-Froggy :

Radam G, I bet Freddy Roach gave Pacquiao just as many examples of violence in the bible and hopefully Manny has been listening to him !


-Radam G :

I don't think Jesus would beat up other dudes for a living. Just saying.
WHAT DID YOU SAY? The Little "Lamb" was monstrous with whuppin' arses for a living and a giving. He Told some dudes not to be gambling up in His Father Temple. The minute that He left, they said double fudge Lil' J, and started getting on their gamble. Jesus Came Back and Caught them, and Beat their arses violently. Then He Was Crusading to Beat some more arses when He Saw some stone throwers picking on a ho. And you know what he did and said. He started taking stones out of hands and kicking arses. And then all at once, he hollered: "Thou who has not sinned, cast the first stone, gud d@mmit! All those muthasuckas fledged, and Lil' J took the ho home. And His Moms Mary, step-pops Joseph and lil-bro James were grinning that the "Lil' Lamb" was gonna work dat thang. Hehehe! LATER: And what about how Jesus Marched into Helldom for a heavenly cause and beat the hell of out of evil Lucifer? And what did The Son of Big G tell "Doubting Thomas" when He -- Jesus -- Came Back from cave napping after three days and DT was calling Jesus's head ho [Mary Magdalene] a lying bytch for saying that Lil' J was back from the dead? Lil' J then appeared and shouted: "DT, Imma have to whup thou @$$. I've told thou about always doubting and messing with my ho." Jesus Beat that disciple some badly that it is not even in the version of any nowadays bibles for the general public. And you say Jesus Didn't make a living by whuppin' the arses of dudes. Jesus Was One Warring Dude when He Was in a human's body. Holla!


-deepwater2 :

Jesus flipped some tables,punched some faces and cleared that temple. It is good to peaceful but when defending one self it is best to be violent and fast. Most big time artists are allowed to be at the top of the industry due to their pact with the devil whether they know it of not. Satanism is all over the place in the music industry. It is plain to see.


-Pazuzu :

WHAT DID YOU SAY? The Little "Lamb" was monstrous with whuppin' arses for a living and a giving. He Told some dudes not to be gambling up in His Father Temple. The minute that He left, they said double fudge Lil' J, and started getting on their gamble. Jesus Came Back and Caught them, and Beat their arses violently. Then He Was Crusading to Beat some more arses when He Saw some stone throwers picking on a ho. And you know what he did and said. He started taking stones out of hands and kicking arses. And then all at once, he hollered: "Thou who has not sinned, cast the first stone, gud d@mmit! All those muthasuckas fledged, and Lil' J took the ho home. And His Moms Mary, step-pops Joseph and lil-bro James were grinning that the "Lil' Lamb" was gonna work dat thang. Hehehe! LATER: And what about how Jesus Marched into Helldom for a heavenly cause and beat the hell of out of evil Lucifer? And what did The Son of Big G tell "Doubting Thomas" when He -- Jesus -- Came Back from cave napping after three days and DT was calling Jesus's head ho [Mary Magdalene] a lying bytch for saying that Lil' J was back from the dead? Lil' J then appeared and shouted: "DT, Imma have to whup thou @$$. I've told thou about always doubting and messing with my ho." Jesus Beat that disciple some badly that it is not even in the version of any nowadays bibles for the general public. And you say Jesus Didn't make a living by whuppin' the arses of dudes. Jesus Was One Warring Dude when He Was in a human's body. Holla!
Fair enough. I won't argue this one with you, RG. I fired that off quickly without much thought. What I was getting at (and did not express well. At all.) is that I don't think its anyone's place to question Ward's Christian principals by who he signs with or anything else he does. WWJD? Andre Ward can answer that question himself. It's his own business, between him and his maker. I just want to see the man fight.


-Radam G :

Fair enough. I won't argue this one with you, RG. I fired that off quickly without much thought. What I was getting at (and did not express well. At all.) is that I don't think its anyone's place to question Ward's Christian principals by who he signs with or anything else he does. WWJD? Andre Ward can answer that question himself. It's his own business, between him and his maker. I just want to see the man fight.
I agree. Nobody should question SOG Ward with some principalities and dogmatic bull jive. Ev'ybodee and dey momma sign a pact with good and the lesser of two evils all the time. God Has Done it umpteen times with the devil and mankind. Holla!


-The Commish :

It's great news to hear that Andre Ward has signed with Roc Nation and is on his way back into the ring. Ward's "comeback" and Roc Nation's entry into the promotional ranks are certainly going to shake up boxing and put it on the sports map as it hasn't been in years. It will be interesting to see, after Ward's first victory back, who the pollsters put at the top of boxing's PxP ratings--Ward or $$$May. -Randy G.


-Pazuzu :

It's great news to hear that Andre Ward has signed with Roc Nation and is on his way back into the ring. Ward's "comeback" and Roc Nation's entry into the promotional ranks are certainly going to shake up boxing and put it on the sports map as it hasn't been in years. It will be interesting to see, after Ward's first victory back, who the pollsters put at the top of boxing's PxP ratings--Ward or $$$May. -Randy G.
Depends on who he fights, and how the fight goes. I do remember Ward coming off a long layoff to absolutely dismantle Chad Dawson, with zero sign of ring rust. If Ward doesn't reappear at the top of my P4P list, he'll be very close.


-Shoulder Roll Defense :

Fair enough. I won't argue this one with you, RG. I fired that off quickly without much thought. What I was getting at (and did not express well. At all.) is that I don't think its anyone's place to question Ward's Christian principals by who he signs with or anything else he does. WWJD? Andre Ward can answer that question himself. It's his own business, between him and his maker. I just want to see the man fight.
I agree, that nobody should judge but that isn't reality of the world we live in. The moment he signed with Jay-Z he became a judged man, especially in the Christian community. From a biblical standpoint the bible states that "judge not lest you be judged." Another verse that speaks specifically about judgement is, "by their fruit yea shall know them." In essence, there is no need to judge because a person's actions speak for them. Ward hasn't been promoted as just any Christian athlete, but rather a devout one with the nickname SOG (Son of God). He signed with a label and CEO that has likened himself to God and is the polar opposite of everything that Ward supposedly represents. I like Ward and I think he is a great boxer and role model. The business decision that he made is on him and I hope that all goes well. As with other devout Christian entertainers and athletes, he is in a no win situation. Everything he does will be dissected, amplified, and scrutinized. As he and his team know though, it comes with the territory.


-Radam G :

I agree, that nobody should judge but that isn't reality of the world we live in. The moment he signed with Jay-Z he became a judged man, especially in the Christian community. From a biblical standpoint the bible states that "judge not lest you be judged." Another verse that speaks specifically about judgement is, "by their fruit yea shall know them." In essence, there is no need to judge because a person's actions speak for them. Ward hasn't been promoted as just any Christian athlete, but rather a devout one with the nickname SOG (Son of God). He signed with a label and CEO that has likened himself to God and is the polar opposite of everything that Ward supposedly represents. I like Ward and I think he is a great boxer and role model. The business decision that he made is on him and I hope that all goes well. As with other devout Christian entertainers and athletes, he is in a no win situation. Everything he does will be dissected, amplified, and scrutinized. As he and his team know though, it comes with the territory.
Yup! Dissected, amplified and scrutinized by the down-low powerless that does nothing but gossip and criticizes. Top-gun Christians are all about getting paid. They don't believe in dat-pie-the-sky-when-you-die bull. Or wait for the Lord to provide for you. They believe in making all the money that you can, and "give the Lord His 10 percent." SOG believes in the reality of the actuality of his faith. He doesn't believe in the fake and perpetrator of frauds. Holla!


-SouthPaul :

Smart move by ROC Nation to go after Broner. Offer refused but what they did obtain ...for free.... Is great publicity and advertising from one of the larger mouth pieces in the sport. Someone should keep track from here on out how many times he will have sound off on ROC nation. CompuROC. Cha---Ching!


-Radam G :

Smart move by ROC Nation to go after Broner. Offer refused but what they did obtain ...for free.... Is great publicity and advertising from one of the larger mouth pieces in the sport. Someone should keep track from here on out how many times he will have sound off on ROC nation. CompuROC. Cha---Ching!
Broner is bone head. He won't be making a $40mil bout this year or the next 10 years. So he should have signed with that guarantee of a minimum of eight mil a year for five years. Dude is fading so quickly that he will not be able to beat any of the top five welterweights or top five light welterweights. My prediction is that Broner will make a stupid decision of fighting Micky Garcia and get kayoed this year. Or he will fight Chris Algieri and get beat by runaway decision. Holla!


-Shoulder Roll Defense :

Broner is bone head. He won't be making a $40mil bout this year or the next 10 years. So he should have signed with that guarantee of a minimum of eight mil a year for five years. Dude is fading so quickly that he will not be able to beat any of the top five welterweights or top five light welterweights. My prediction is that Broner will make a stupid decision of fighting Micky Garcia and get kayoed this year. Or he will fight Chris Algieri and get beat by runaway decision. Holla!
I would love to see those fights happen but I doubt it. Algieri would be a bad match up because Chris is very active and Broner has a low punch rate. A Garcia fight would be a little more intriguing. I'm not sold on Mikey and he will be exposed at 140. I think he fits better at 135, especially since Crawford is moving up. Broner is a idiot for passing up that type of money and Keith Thurman doesn't seem too smart either. Deontay Wilder is also going to wake up after the 17th and wish he would have took the millions Roc Nation offered him.


-brownsugar :

I agree, that nobody should judge but that isn't reality of the world we live in. The moment he signed with Jay-Z he became a judged man, especially in the Christian community. From a biblical standpoint the bible states that "judge not lest you be judged." Another verse that speaks specifically about judgement is, "by their fruit yea shall know them." In essence, there is no need to judge because a person's actions speak for them. Ward hasn't been promoted as just any Christian athlete, but rather a devout one with the nickname SOG (Son of God). He signed with a label and CEO that has likened himself to God and is the polar opposite of everything that Ward supposedly represents. I like Ward and I think he is a great boxer and role model. The business decision that he made is on him and I hope that all goes well. As with other devout Christian entertainers and athletes, he is in a no win situation. Everything he does will be dissected, amplified, and scrutinized. As he and his team know though, it comes with the territory.
You're in rare form these days SRD.....I agree. Ward knows what he's doing and J-Z's money was earned through hard work and his meticulous understanding of the market place... I doubt we'll see Ward drinking the blood of sacrificed chickens,.... converting to Scientology, or going to seances in an effort to raise the spirits of the tragically slain Buggy Smalls and Beanie Segal. The fact that he choose to jump on an opportunity that his peers were unable to trust or comprehend is a testimony of his leadership skills and ability to think for himself.


-amayseng :

I agree, that nobody should judge but that isn't reality of the world we live in. The moment he signed with Jay-Z he became a judged man, especially in the Christian community. From a biblical standpoint the bible states that "judge not lest you be judged." Another verse that speaks specifically about judgement is, "by their fruit yea shall know them." In essence, there is no need to judge because a person's actions speak for them. Ward hasn't been promoted as just any Christian athlete, but rather a devout one with the nickname SOG (Son of God). He signed with a label and CEO that has likened himself to God and is the polar opposite of everything that Ward supposedly represents. I like Ward and I think he is a great boxer and role model. The business decision that he made is on him and I hope that all goes well. As with other devout Christian entertainers and athletes, he is in a no win situation. Everything he does will be dissected, amplified, and scrutinized. As he and his team know though, it comes with the territory.
I am a fan of Ward in and out of that ring and I am absolutely excited he will be back in the ring soon. However, you do make good points, Jay-z's songs have some concerning lyrics in them, I would not have thought a man of Ward's integrity would sign and associate with someone like Jay-z. He is his own man and will have to deal with any consequences that come with it, if there are any. At least he didn't sign with TSAH, then we would see him fighting tomato cans for the next five miserable years.