Hopkins vs. Golovkin Fight Floated

That Bernard Hopkins doesn’t miss a trick. OK, OK, maybe I shouldn’t use that term for Hopkins floating the idea of fighting middleweight ace Gennady Golovkin, the topmost bomber in the sport, ahead even of the man Hopkins is set to face tomorrow night in AC, at Boardwalk Hall.

Sure, maybe Hopkins is really aiming to take out the Russian bomber, defuse him, and then follow that with another even more majestic feat, arguably, meeting and defeating the Kazakh kid, Golovkin.

The thought of it, this concept first floated to Bill Emes in August, and to Kevin Iole today, made executives and fight fans smile and chatter all afternoon. What about the trainer for Golovkin, Honest Abel Sanchez (photo shows Sanchez, GGG, Loeffler, left to right). What does he think about a Hopkins-Triple G face-off?

“I think Hopkins should be worrying about Kovalev, he has a good, young, hungry lion to contend with first. But I would love to be the coach that retires Hopkins,” Sanchez told me. “Golovkin’s management team and promoter Tom Loeffler will have some work ahead of them to try and make it happen, but first, Hopkins must win…and also, we have a formidable task ahead of us on Feb. 21, 2015 in Monte Carlo (against Martin Murray).”

I was thinking out loud, and told Sanchez that if I were Hopkins, I’d request Golovkin fight him at a catchweight of 170 pounds, make the smaller fella come up another notch, and also minimize a bit more any potential draining effects of going from 175 to 168. “I think the fair thing would be if Triple G went up one division, and Hopkins came down one division,” Sanchez answered equitably. “That way they would both give up something of an advantage.”

I could foresee a purse battle sending this concept clash off the rails….”I’m happy about getting Triple G ready to destroy The Alien, and I’m sure that Loeffler and the management team will do their best to make the best possible deal for us,” Sanchez responded.

I checked in with Loeffler, who told me, “It would be a huge fight next year if Hopkins beats Kovalev and Triple G beats Murray. Bernard is a warrior and has proven he will fight anyone. If he beats Kovalev at 175, I don’t think he’ll shy away from fighting Golovkin at 168. But the fighters would meet in the middle to make a huge fight.”

Smart move by Hopkins, gaining a bit of extra buzz drafting off the hottest hitter in the sport today, Golovkin. Nobody but nobody has ever declared the Alien is lacking in brain matter and craftiness galore. Now, what would happen in Hopkins vs. Golovkin, contested at 168 or less?

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-brownsugar :

That Bernard Hopkins doesn't miss a trick. OK, OK, maybe I shouldn't use that term for Hopkins floating the idea of fighting middleweight ace Gennady Golovkin, the topmost bomber in the sport, ahead even of the man Hopkins is set to face tomorrow night in AC, at Boardwalk Hall. Sure, maybe Hopkins is really aiming to take out the Russian bomber, defuse him, and then follow that with another even more majestic feat, arguably, meeting and defeating the Kazakh kid, Golovkin. The thought of it made executives and fight fans smile and chatter all afternoon. What about the trainer for Golovkin, Honest Abel Sanchez. What does he think about a Hopkins-Triple G face-off? "I think Hopkins should be worrying about Kovalev, he has a good, young, hungry lion to contend with first. But I would love to be the coach that retires Hopkins," Sanchez told me. "Golovkin's management team and promoter Tom Loeffler will have some work ahead of them to try and make it happen, but first, Hopkins must win?and also, we have a formidable task ahead of us on Feb. 21, 2015 in Monte Carlo (against Martin Murray)." I was thinking out loud, and told Sanchez that if I were Hopkins, I'd request Golovkin fight him at a catchweight of 170 pounds, make the smaller fella come up another notch, and also minimize a bit more any potential draining effects of going from 175 to 168. "I think the fair thing would be if Triple G went up one division, and Hopkins came down one division," Sanchez answered equitably. "That way they would both give up something of an advantage." I could foresee a purse battle sending this concept clash off the rails?."I'm happy about getting Triple G ready to destroy The Alien, and I'm sure that Loeffler and the management team will do their best to make the best possible deal for us," Sanchez responded. Smart move by Hopkins, gaining a bit of extra buzz drafting off the hottest hitter in the sport today, Golovkin. Nobody but nobody has ever declared the Alien is lacking in brain matter and craftiness galore. Now, what would happen in Hopkins vs. Golovkin, contested at 168 or less?
Weight classes in boxing are only separated by approximately 3-15 pounds depending on weight class ( heavyweights not included ). A few pounds weight advantage in any sport using weight classes to match competitors has proven in most cases (although a few exceptions exist) to be an insurmountable advantage for the bigger guy.... or at the very least provide a significant advantage to the heavier boxer. Bone ... Blood... and Muscle Mass can be harder to defeat than raw skill if the larger man knows how to impose his size. (Klitschko's being a prime example) If this wasn't true ...weight classes wouldn't exist in any sport and we'd be living under a different set of physical laws that don't include gravity, length width and depth. I don't think any fighter at any weight wants to take a flush shot from Golovkin if he doesn'thave to. But Bhop has the ability to nullify and negate a punchers power the same way he has to smaller fighters in the past like DLH and Trinidad. (And Winky Wright as well). Not saying GGG doesn't have a chance but its a much harder fight for GGG than it is for Kovalev due to the hurdle in size. I can see why Able would be willing to participate in the potential Side Show....of course there would be a lot of money to be made. However this possible matchup only exists as a gleem in Coach Able's eye for now... Bhop has to first complete his current assignment with a passing grade. And that's going to be an extremely difficult task to complete.


-oubobcat :

Win or lose, Hopkins is fighting Stevenson next and then calling it a career. Its getting very overlooked here but taking the Kovalev fight is a very smart move by Hopkins and almost a no lose situation. If Hopkins does not get KO'd, he can still turn later on to fight the lineal Lt. Heavyweight champion at age 50 and try to cement his legacy winning that title. And get paid handsomely for that fight. If Hopkins wins, he can turn to Stevenson (who remember desperately needs opponent), go back to Showtime who would certainly up the ante big time for that fight and get paid really handsomely. As far as risk goes, taking the Kovalev fight was a very smart move by Hopkins.


-The Shadow :

This Golovkin chatter is typical filibustering by the increasingly Bob Arum'esque Tom Loeffler. I predict he will be a fine promoter. Anyway, back in April of 2013, GetNaughty Golovkin called out Bernard Hopkins for his IBF title at 175, which his promoter Loeffler confirmed. So did his trainer. Hopkins then responded, saying "I'm right here. Come get this work." Then we heard little else. It's just another case of calling out of the oldest promotional trick in the book. It's such a simple tactic I'm still shocked people fall for it. This is what made Bob Arum say that the media is a dumb rock you just kick around in any direction you want. Bluff, get some headlines, continue to feed this reputation that a) no one wants to fight you and b) you're this multi weight pirate willing to take on all comers when the reality is you're fighting SCRUBS at ONE weight. They defend it by saying, "No one wants to fight us!" And people believe it! Only, many, many fighters went on the record asking to fight him, only to have it shut down. Erislandy Lara said, "Give me GGG. Good boy vs bad boy." Loeffler? That dude got almost frantic in his response. ?He is not approved by HBO and never on our radar, he should be calling out Quillin, if he wins, he becomes interesting,? Loeffler said. ?Lara fights on Showtime and had draws with Vanes and Molina, GGG vs Stevens=high ratings, who watches Lara? Lara fights on Showtime and is Jr Middle, why would he be on our radar? (Nevermind the fact they they love to feast on junior middleweights and claim he will fight at 154. OK, let's continue.) "Lara should call out Floyd, same promoter, same TV and he beats both Khan and Maidana, should be easy fight to make. Good fight between two solid guys. Yes, same promoter same TV and same weight, makes more sense for Lara to call out Floyd.? LOL, whatever Tom. For a second, I thought he was going to say they needed to erect a temporary stadium in Guantanamo while staging the fight in Cuba... Then we had the Andres, Dirrell and Ward, both calling for the fight. Dirrell, understandably, went ignored but Ward got hit with every excuse in the book. "He's not a TV draw!" False. His last fight with a relative unknown in Edwin Rodriguez drew 1.3 million viewers. "He doesn't sell tickets!" False. He sells out the Bay more than Bud Crawford sells out Omaha. Then there was Sergio Mora. If you really have such a hard time finding opponents, truly, then you're not really at liberty to make 10,000 excuses when guys actually step up. Which brings us back to Hopkins. Yesterday, Hopkins brought it up again, shrewdly, and it became news, even though it really wasn't. He's been calling out Golovkin since Golovkin said he was this division-less crusader. And, sure enough, Loeffler again came up and expressed, much like he had done in April of 2013. Only this time he changed his tune -- even though Hopkins and Golovkin are only five pounds apart in natural size and often walk around at the same weight -- saying, "It would have to be at 168. The weight would be too much for Gennady." Uh huh. OK. Just a bunch of posturing. I even see this as Oscar picking up a promoter trick or two from his former promoter by drawing even more interest, since GGG is the man with the juice at the moment. Hopkins-GGG? I'll believe it when I see it. But it won't be because Bernard is hesitant. He's proving that tonight.


-Radam G :

Weight classes in boxing are only separated by approximately 3-15 pounds depending on weight class ( heavyweights not included ). A few pounds weight advantage in any sport using weight classes to match competitors has proven in most cases (although a few exceptions exist) to be an insurmountable advantage for the bigger guy.... or at the very least provide a significant advantage to the heavier boxer. Bone ... Blood... and Muscle Mass can be harder to defeat than raw skill if the larger man knows how to impose his size. (Klitschko's being a prime example) If this wasn't true ...weight classes wouldn't exist in any sport and we'd be living under a different set of physical laws that don't include gravity, length width and depth. I don't think any fighter at any weight wants to take a flush shot from Golovkin if he doesn'thave to. But Bhop has the ability to nullify and negate a punchers power the same way he has to smaller fighters in the past like DLH and Trinidad. (And Winky Wright as well). Not saying GGG doesn't have a chance but its a much harder fight for GGG than it is for Kovalev due to the hurdle in size. I can see why Able would be willing to participate in the potential Side Show....of course there would be a lot of money to be made. However this possible matchup only exists as a gleem in Coach Able's eye for now... Bhop has to first complete his current assignment with a passing grade. And that's going to be an extremely difficult task to complete.
Not so! Sorry! But the Klitschko doctors/brothers were good listeners to the late, great (GBG) Manny Steward about not ever fighting a 34-42 year-old James "Lights out" Toney. "Bone... Blood... and Muscle Mass can be harder to defeat than (even) skill" to know nothings, lazies and believers of size hype. Wow! How times have changed in the thinking of many pros' minds -- not typical joes' mind. There were times that even average-size joes knew that oversize humans failed miserably at hand-to-hand combat with smallies and regulars. The K-bros/docs good for their size. Holla!


-Radam G :

BTW weight classes exist to maximumize the profits of sanctioning fees for the alphabet-sanctioning crooks. Let's go back to the eight original divisions. NYET! 'Em crooks gotta get paid those sanctioning fees for 22 different weight divisions. Holla!


-Carmine Cas :

I don't see GGG beating Hopkins, unless they fight at 54 lol.


-Froggy :

I don't see GGG beating Hopkins, unless they fight at 54 lol.
WOW ! I don't think Hopkins would go back to 160 for anybody, let alone 154 !


-Froggy :

WOW ! I don't think Hopkins would go back to 160 for anybody, let alone 154 !
Now I get your joke ! But Hopkins would never fight GGG except above 168 and he would lose !


-Carmine Cas :

Now I get your joke ! But Hopkins would never fight GGG except above 168 and he would lose !
Hopkins has called out Floyd at 160, I don't know how if the intent was true but Hopkins just called out GGG. Hopkins is too slick and shifty for GGG, he would mug and beat him up on the inside. Plus if GGG moves up how does it effect his power?


-brownsugar :

Not so! Sorry! But the Klitschko doctors/brothers were good listeners to the late, great (GBG) Manny Steward about not ever fighting a 34-42 year-old James "Lights out" Toney. "Bone... Blood... and Muscle Mass can be harder to defeat than (even) skill" to know nothings, lazies and believers of size hype. Wow! How times have changed in the thinking of many pros' minds -- not typical joes' mind. There were times that even average-size joes knew that oversize humans failed miserably at hand-to-hand combat with smallies and regulars. The K-bros/docs good for their size. Holla!
That's exactly what I'm saying...... a good big man beats a good smaller man nearly everyone.