Garcia Beats Morales, Kirkland Wins By Bizarre DQ Over Molina

hbo-ipad-serviceDanny Garcia finished the job started by the scale, as he handed vet Erik Morales a UD12 defeat at the Reliant Center in Houston Saturday night. The Philly kid rose to 23-0 and punctuated the win with a knockdown in round 11. The scores were 117-110, 116-112, 118-109. Morales missed the weight, scaling in at 142 for the 140 pound tussle, and he gave up his WBC crown Friday. Garcia is now the WBC champ.

James Kirkland won in controversial fashion, by DQ in round ten, over Carlos Molina. Ref Jon Schorle disqualified Molina when his team entered the ring after Kirkland dropped the boxer who was ahead on the cards, 88-83, 87-84, 87-84. A right hand made him hit the canvas, he took an eight count, he was ready to resume fighting, and the ref ended it, because a cornerman came to the ring.

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-ali :

Kirkland skill level ain't very high but at least he has an exciting style to watch...Molina on the other hand clinches way too much for me to want to see him fight again. Morales needs to retire ASAP he's had a great career but its time to move on...I would like to see Garcia fight Rios at 140 I don't think he has a chance in hell against Marquez at this point...Zab has the winner of the Khan vs Peterson fight and Khan is moving up to 147 after this fight....Peterson vs Judah would be a great fight to watch.


-the Roast :

Just when you think you've seen everything, another royal screw job rears it's ugly head. Molina was in complete control of that fight and the ref Jon Schorle took it away on the first chance he had. Never fight in Texas. What a horrible place. I havent seen a rip off that bad since the 2011 in 2012 TSS ROTY award. Chicago shafted again!!


-mortcola :

Kirkland skill level ain't very high but at least he has an exciting style to watch...Molina on the other hand clinches way too much for me to want to see him fight again. Morales needs to retire ASAP he's had a great career but its time to move on...I would like to see Garcia fight Rios at 140 I don't think he has a chance in hell against Marquez at this point...Zab has the winner of the Khan vs Peterson fight and Khan is moving up to 147 after this fight....Peterson vs Judah would be a great fight to watch.
Little bit of a letdown, Kirkland. He's starting to remind me a little of a Frank Animal Fletcher with better power. Just limited, easy to nail and wobble, few adjustments in the ring except to kick it into high gear and try harder. His heart is good, and he makes for a good show - but I think we were all thinking we had a true middleweight Tyson to enjoy for a few years.


-mortcola :

Just when you think you've seen everything, another royal screw job rears it's ugly head. Molina was in complete control of that fight and the ref Jon Schorle took it away on the first chance he had. Never fight in Texas. What a horrible place. I havent seen a rip off that bad since the 2011 in 2012 TSS ROTY award. Chicago shafted again!!
I thought so too. But, after conferring at the gym today with a former state commissioner, it was made clear that the cornerman's action was a definite, no-exceptions disqualifier - cornerman enters ring during the round, fight ends, period. The ref sucked for other reasons. But, again Molina is deprived of a deserved win by someone else's incompetence.


-Radam G :

Danggit, Mortcola! You keep being that thief in night stealing my spit straight outta my neurons. It is all good. I'm been slow to post lately. Anyway, the Roast, I'm sorry but there was no hanky-spanky -- I mean hanky-panky -- involved in that DQ. Team Molina was a bunch of dumba$$es. Not entering the ring after a knockdown at the bell is as old as the game. Your Windy-City boys probably got wind damage up in the membranes somehow. Hehehehe! @SCLA Ali, clinching is an art and one of the chief sciences of the sweet science. So quit hating. This was a great ref, and you didn't even know it, because you hate the great ring saavy of clinching. Maybe because you are spoiled by seeing the dumbarse refs unfairly take points for doing it. Holla!


-DaveB :

I hated to see the Kirkland fight end the way it did. It was just starting to get interesting. It looked like Molina was starting to get tired and he was hurt, if only a little bit. I would have liked to have seen what would have happened over the next two rounds. If Kirkland lost, he lost but Molina's corner blew it. Once again here we go with the excessive clinching. Clinching is good if the fighter is hurt or he/she uses it as a strategy to blunt the opponents aggression. But technically as I understand it, it is against the rules. That is why refs tell the fighters to fight there way out or they break the fighters. The Marques of Queensberry Rules state against wrestling and hugging your opponent. Now if a fighter holds and then breaks it and fights on I have no objection but Molina, Hopkins, Klitchsko's just wear the strategy out. Molina was winning no doubt and he will probably get a rematch but it would have been nice to see the fight comes to its natural conclusion. We'll see if Kirkland can adapt in a rematch, although I'm not looking forward to it.


-Shoulder Roll Defense :

John Ruiz fought a good fight last night. Oops, I meant to say Carlos Molina! The ending was valid, but unfortunate. Molina was tired and the Mandingo Warrior was coming on. Kirkland is a limited fighter and all the talk of fighting Sergio Martinez needs to stop. I like James, but he is too one dimensional. On the other hand, Molina doesn't hit hard enough to crack an egg and he clinches after every 2 punch combination. A well rounded fighter won't allow themself to be consistently clinched and will "check hook" and "turn" his a$$ all night.


-ali :

Dave B great post some fighter just take clinching too far and Molina is one of them.


-DaveB :

At Ali and Shoulder Roll Defense - Agreed. Now if a fighter is almost out and is struggling not to get knocked out I think he should hold on like it is his girlfriend but otherwise it can get taken to the extreme. (Clinching is technically against the rules, and in amateur fights points are deducted fairly quickly for it. It is unlikely, however, to see points deducted for a clinch in professional boxing.) from the Wikipedia Encyclopedia.


-brownsugar :

Clinching was the only way for the underpowered Molina to keep Kirkland in check... but he has the skills to have beaten him straight up as long as he didn't get hit too much. Molina will be back and he'll be avoided by most of the upper tier contenders and champions. (Alvarez)... good experience for Kirkland,.. he should hire Molina for sparring. I hear a fight with Bundrage could be next for JK... that oughta be a good one! good post DaveB.


-Radam G :

You guys know not what you speaketh [sic]. Clinching is a wonderful weapon of both defense and offense. It is just as effective as a good jab. I bet you muthasuckas are down with O-P-P, but not clinching. All right. It is all good. You know me. Hehehehe! Holla!


-Radam G :

@DaveG -- I mean DaveB -- holding [and grabbing] is technically against the rules -- not clinching. In the amateurs, "points are deducted fairly quickly" for holding and grabbing -- also known as STALLING in the amateurs. Check the rules of the game from professional and amateur boxing RELIABLE sources, not the apparent mis-and-dis information of Wikipedia Encyclopedia. Anybody can put any jive spit there in W.E. Holla!


-mortcola :

I thought so too. But, after conferring at the gym today with a former state commissioner, it was made clear that the cornerman's action was a definite, no-exceptions disqualifier - cornerman enters ring during the round, fight ends, period. The ref sucked for other reasons. But, again Molina is deprived of a deserved win by someone else's incompetence.
Modification of my statement here: apparently, in Texas rules, the bell is not supposed to be rung while the count is on, and there is not supposed to be a mandatory 8-count, and Molina was up at 2. Therefore, the bell ringing was in error, and prompted the corner to come into the ring; and the 8 count, during which the cornerman came in, should never have been started. So, by this reasoning, ref screwed up, as did the bell-ringer.


-the Roast :

I'm glad you went back to this Mortcola, I watched the replay several times after reading your post and Radam's on Sunday. I don't know what the rule is exactly but I do know to win that way and celebrate like that is dishonorable. A true competitor does not want to win on a technicality. Not only did that crappy ref take victory away from Molina but he also robbed Kirkland from pulling the fat out of the fire. Maybe Molina was hurt and would have been stopped in the next round, now we'll never know. I was particularly annoyed by Kirkland's cornerman who was so happy to win in such a cheap way. Ann Wolfe even said she would have rather seen the fight continue. That ref sucked. They should rematch anywhere but Texas.


-Radam G :

I know the rules -- ABC and Texas ones -- exactly, the Roast. They were correctly applied. This one was not a referee's foul up, but a corner one. It is no way around it. Team Molina messed up. And I'd love to see a rematch. But I think that the Texan Cowboy Mandingo Warrior and his trainer maddy Mermaid Anne would kayo Molina next time. Holla!


-brownsugar :

if mort is correct, and he usually is, then Kirkland got an undeserved win, but this fight was in texas and JK is the more marketable fighter, (not justification), but the ref did use the faintest thread of credulity to prevent their hometown boy from falling out of championship contention..... after the fight......I saw Ann Wolfe walk up to Molina and tell him..... while she was rubbing his earlobes... "you were winning, you were winning" with a face of total sincerity. She honestly looked sorry for the hardluck contender. yes they were ecstatic,.. and yes Roach... they were celebrating........ If Kirkland were to get derailed now, it would have thrown a monkey wrench into one of boxing most well laid plans. (get JK to a championship bout before he implodes)
Project Kirkland will continue to proceed as planned.