Stats Back Up Floyd's Claims of Greatness

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Las Vegas, Nev. (February 24, 2012)…To coincide with boxing superstar Floyd “Money” Mayweather's birthday today and upcoming media tour to officially announce his May 5 fight against WBA Super Welterweight Championship Miguel “Junito” Cotto, the seven-time world champion was featured in ESPN The Magazine's “Analytics Issue” (March 5) for some of his extraordinary boxing statistics. 

Citing CompuBox, boxing's computerized scoring system, writer Igor Guryashkin breaks down Mayweather's ring genius. He tops all current fighters with a connect percentage of 46%. The system, which calculates every punch a boxer throws and lands, found that only boxing greats Joe Louis and Lennox Lewis hold an advantage over him at just a 2% edge. But no one comes close to the undefeated fighter in regard to opponent connect percentages.

Guryashkin states, “…perhaps even more impressive is Mayweather's opponents connect percentage: 16%, the lowest ever recorded in CompuBox's 4,000-fight database. The astronomical 30% difference between the two stats stands atop history's pugilistic pantheon.” 

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-dino da vinci :

Great. Then explain why if you land more than everybody and get hit less than everybody you wouldn't just say: you, you, you and you. It's not like he doesn't fight quality opposition. He just skips opponents from time to time ala Roy Jones in his prime. The shame to the whole thing is if he was fortunate enough to have worked his record to 54-0 including some guys he should of fought, with a rematch or two along the way, looked good in doing so, he would have been mentioned along with Robinson, Moore, Ali, Armstrong, Leonard, etc. It's a bit late now, and the resume just isn't as complete as it might have been.


-Radam G :

That is the biggest crap of bullsh*tology that I have yet to see. Nobody ever used this weak-arse system of counting punches of the Brownbomber Joe Louis. CompuBox is a scam for scoundrels and suckers. The cats working that bytch miss count punches all the time. I was once asked to be a part of that jive. Of course I said NO! NO! NO! "Prejudice for your favorite fighter will blind and bind you." [Those CompuBox counters' fibbing arses are at the top of inattention blindness. They are easily distracted by optical illusions and crowd cheering. Now how many times that you have counted the punches that a boxer got hit with, and CompuBox was wrong as a mutha-idiot. I'm reminded of when the Galaxxy Warrior got knocked da double fudge out when he was clowning. CompuBox's count was off like a mutha-misser. What da double fudge was that?] And I won't buy the jive that they counted the Brownbomber's punches by watching his films, because the camera angles of nowadays didn't exist back in the Brownbomber's days. That jive-a$$ _____ CompuBox didn't even exist in the days of "Cassius Clay/young Muhammad Ali." And everybodee and dey momma and everyone and his cousin can see for themselves how many times that GOAT Ali didn't miss punches while not getting hit with any. One fight that comes to mind is the GOAT against "Big Cat" Cleveland Williams. Money May's fanboys, flunkies, nuthuggers and groupies are straight-up showing their a$$es with all type of ___ ____ ____! Give me a break. Stop the Fam May's propaganda. Most ___ ____ ____, fanfaronades, flunkies, faders and fanboys just cannot handle boxing's aphorism. They just want melodrama, dishonest dejecta, serial bullsh*tology and mass mythology. WOw! WoW! WOW!. As I'm said, boxing is seedy. It is a religion. It is a mean to an end of making money at any cost, while control the thinking of the know-nothing faithful. Takin' about a cult. WTF! Now here come the cult, or sect or sumptin' of Money May. Now he's boxing Jesus, who will be hanged-on-the-cross out. And every fanboy and his partner are going to protect those holy Lil' Floyd cojones with all type of miracle jive. Hehehehe! Holla!


-Radam G :

I wonder if Money May can punch through water without making it splash? Can he make sweat drown an opponent? Can he ____ ____ ___ ____? No! Somebody answer this question for me. What type of GREAT is Money May? Is it similar to Jesus-on-the-cross dead? I still don't know who declared Jesus dead. And what type of dead was he? Roman dead? On-the-cross Roman dead is some weak ____ IMHO. You'll come back after three days. Show me a buried-in-the-earth dead coming back in just one day, than I will believer in all type of syet. NYET! Hehehehe! You will have to show me a cremated, ashy dead joker coming back. Jump outta those ashes and breathe in body form again. And I don't trust that ancient Romans' syet as far as I can see. Than again, I don't trust American jive either, as far as I can see it. So is it just ESPN declaring Money May this and that, or some people who know their Ps and Qs? CompuBox is as accurate as the afterlife of the Pharoahs. They didn't prove jack jive being in those Pyramids for ages. CompuBox is _____! Just put some computer chips in the boxers' gloves. That is more of an accurate count. I will get my computer-wiz little brother to fix da seedy biz up. Holla!


-ali :

This shows exactly how great Mayweather really is.


-mortcola :

The stats show excellence. They do not show greatness. That word should not be cheapened to include risk averse, part-time fighters who conduct themselves without honor or respect, and who do not seek and overcome challenges. Excellence in skill is without question. Greatness is forever out of his reach.


-brownsugar :

I strongly disagree with Mortcola and RadamG, but everyone is entitled their opinion......... Personally Mayweather is Tops in my book, and it's only because I have his seen the the full body of his work, and have his career on DVD that I can make this declaration.... after watching him call out a prime Shane Mosely numerous times when Mosely was still a 135lb undefeated lightweight Boss,...and Del La Hoya when he was still a 140lb P4P star you can't say that Mayweather didn't challeng the best. Both of those champions refused Floyd untill it became financially feasible for them. Floyd also publically called out out a prime Kostya Tzu before he lost his skills to age and was beaten by a young and vibrant Ricky Hatton. He was at a 15lb deficit against Corrales and a 17lb deficit against Castillo and faced him a second time to settle the controversial score of the their first encounter. He's been champion for 15 years and has won 20 champions fights in a row(Many against other Champions),.....thats phenominal by any standard and the bulk of those championship fights came before the santioning bodies began splitting up their belts into the multitude of rainbow class belts that exist today.... his body of work far exceeds and surpass anything accomplished by the few other benchmarks of greatness of this era (the Kbrothers being 1 example) especially when you consider the opposition he fought was far more capable (although the Kbrothers never really had any worthy comp in their division to begin with) Yes he's fallen partially into the rut that Mosely, Oscar, an many other great fighters do while they approach the zenith of their fame and fortune... milking the cow until it's dry... but he still fought Mosely when Pac refused(after the Margarito fight Shane couldn't get any challengers and Mayweather brought him out of unemployment) and now he's fighting the next best welter-junior middle boxer in the world (who Pac also refused to fight at 154) Ortiz was nobodies push over and had rehydrated to 165lbs and still Mayweather toyed with him until after the foul. Actually Floyd does have respect where it counts... he respects his opponents in the ring and has never shown up for a fight without being ready to give his best,.. has never hit his opponent low, or delivered a head butt.. He can only be judged by what he's accomplished in the ring.. and not the comical Larry Merchant dialogue .... he still lives clean and keeps his body intact at a point in his career when most fighters can no longer sustain their skills.. He did step away from the sport a couple of times, .... he openly said he was tired of it....... His life, his choice. I think when history revisits him 10, 25 years down the road there will still be some detractors and naysayers that will still have something negative to say because they never liked him as a person. But Boxing isn't politics or a popularity contest...So what if Floyd is an asshole... He's also a future Hall of Famer guaranteed and has the scalps to prove it. few in the history of the sport has had his resilliance, longevity or has maintained his level of excellence and consistancy for so long.... which should still be on display again May 5th.......... amazing.


-Radam G :

In all of time, the truth has never matter. It is only what a person selects to believe that makes him receive. Of course there are those who accept fairy tales that will fit their agenda of bullsh*tology, mythology and make 'em-feel-good poppycock and super-duper jabberwocky. I'm so DOUGLE-FUDGING AMAZED! But not shock! For I understand the problem of a smooth, mudholed brain up in the cranium, where 100-billion neurons lie. Huh! Wow circumstances of life cause them not to work. If one spits the flaws of Sugar Ray Robinson, there is a stink. And, as I've spitted tons of time, the same will come about for Money May, as he gets on his sink. As in the days of SRR, it is not hard to follow Money May's every duck and buck. But da muthasucka is gonna always have plenty of luck. Money May continously lies about fighting the best, and exaggerates the purses that he earned. And his fanboys, groupies, fanfaronades, faders and flunkies keep calling him boxing Jesus. Did Jesus LIE? WOW! And now this ESPN jive about Lil' Floyd's ring statistics. Double WOW! WOW! Now I see why Brian Kenny is not around. With ____ ______, he ain't down! Holla!


-mortcola :

All respect, friend, but....calling out ain't squantoolio. You want to make the fight, it gets made. No Duran, no Hagler, no Leonard, no Hagler, not even a Rosario or Camacho, not a single epic challenge. Barely squeaked by DeLa Hoya. No ATG would have done the peek-a-boo dance he has done with Pac. Yes, the skills are Great. But the record will be forever lacking.


-Radam G :

A person can spit any bullsh*t and it looks righteous until you hear ____ ____ ____! Joe "The Italian Dragon" Calzaghe has outdone Money May during the same period by fighting the best of the best of Calzaghe's division[s]. He did none of the Money May's ducks and fibbin' about the BIG bucks. Money May is an archmaster optical illusionist inside the ring, in promoting himself, in letting his flunkies speak for him when he's lying about opponents ducking him for imaginary reasons, and in pied pipering all of his followers off his cliff of bullsh*tology, makebelieve, double talking and straight-out fibbing BIG TIME! With all the above said, I ain't hatin!' Lil' Floyd is being what the game is notorious for -- seedy, crooked and people going syet ape syet, because of the truth about the seediness and crookedness. I'm just about rolling with the actuality and reality of the sweet science pugilism bitnezz. Holla!


-dino da vinci :

@Radam. Radam. Answer me this. Is Floyd, Jr. A remarkably gifted prizefighter or not? We both agree Pac is a monster. We both agree the blame of not making the match falls on Floyd's side of the ledger. We both agree you have deep insight into the sport. Deep. Radam, is Floyd a great fighter? And Radam, don't make me have to stalk you from post to post. Answer the question. No spittin, no blanks, no nuttin. Is Floyd a great fighter? Or not?


-ali :

B-sug that was a real *** post....


-Radam G :

DVD -- I mean DDV -- of course, Money May is a great fighter. He's one of the greatest of all times. And he doing what many -- including Sugar Ray Robinson -- have done. Duck fighters who would probably whup his hinny. And da money fibber acts all innocence and ___ ____! Da game is seedy and crooked, so Money May is straight up at the top of being a real boxing-business gamer. Those in da know KNOW! And just try to tell the fanfaronades, faders, fakers, phonies and da likes to ease up and quit believing any nonsense and super bullsh*tology that a real gamer hypocritically puts out. Money May has not done syet but play to, in his own words, "to those who go along with my bullsh*t....Boxing is dangerous....and crooked as sh*t,...You do what you have to do to win and make dat moolah.... fu*k da truth....I'm in boxing not church....and fu*king preacher lie dey [sic] a$$es off." Money May and I are boys. And he is the archmaster of making fools outta those "suckas born every minute." He, himself, has said: "F*ck 'em....I'm 'bout gittin' [sic] paid." And I could go on forever talking about boxing business super-smart Money May. He has my DEEP LOV! It ain't his fault that fools come a dime a dozen. And his ____ followers, who he pied-pipers them on his cliff of _____ _____ come a penny a ton. OH, YUP! GREAT is Money May! Money May is GREAT, GREAT, GREAT! And as I've said many times, he is better than Sugar Ray Robinson, IMHO. He betters SRR in every way -- ducking, whuppin' women arses and not letting the boxing powers that be tell him sh*t, while they kiss his a$$ like some prophet kissed feet or got their feet kissed, or sumptin' [sic] like that. Again and again, Money May is da Man and a GREAT MAN! The GREAT JESUS of pugilism. I guess that he has knocked SRR off the throne. How can you hate a man like Money May for being a master at his craft -- the full 360 degrees of it? Money May RULES, and he does it so well, that the RULES are continous bent and changed for him. Holla!


-dino da vinci :

Thank you. Next time you're in Vegas, I'd like to take you and the Mrs. to dinner. And your secret identity is safe with me. Holla!


-The Good Doctor :

I have read the previous posts and my two cents says the answer is somewhere in the middle. For all those who dislike Floyd, 40+ fights no losses and with the exception of Castillo I, no fights really even that close. In addition, Floyd is an adept defensive fighter and does have remarkable hand speed. Floyd has the tools of great fighters and that isn't really that hard to see. However, for those that like him, there is one serious deterrent. Floyd's fight record is lukewarm at best. Floyd has consistently chosen out of their prime, smaller, or just flat not very good fighters since for the last 11 years. The last prime fighter or any serious caliber Floyd fought at their weight was Chico in 01 I believe. It would be one thing if there was nobody available but take a real good look at who he fought: Corley, Sosa, Bruseles, Baldomir, Mitchell, Ndou, Gatti, aging ODH, aging Mosely, zab, Hatton, overweight and undersized Marquez versus what has been available in his classes that were legitimate fighters: Marquez, Prime Cotto, Prime Margarito, Casamayor, Pac, Prime Shane, Prime ODH, Vernon Forrest, Kosta Now I do admit, Floyd makes business moves when picking his fights and heck I don't blame him. If I could make 8 figures, choosing lesser competition, I'd do it too. However, by taking that route he hasn't exactly lined up a murderers row. I have said all that to say, in my humble opinion, Floyd could be greater than anyone gives him credit for or he could be a guy who fought well but beat less than average competition.


-The Good Doctor :

I may stand alone in this opinion, but I believe that Floyd's greatness is an un-answerable topic. Floyd poses probably the greatest amount of dichotomy ever when it comes to evaluating a boxer and here's why. For all of those against Mayweather, I must tell you the guy has incredible handspeed, is an extremely adept defensive fighter, a phenomenal counter puncher and 40+ wins with no losses including no real challenge with the exception of Castillo I says alot. Floyd has also managed to become a great attraction whether it be you pulling for or against him. However, Floyd's fight record lacks real punch(bad pun, I know). For about the last 10 years, Floyd has fought much lesser skilled, smaller, or out prime fighters. Floyd's last real win against a notable prime fighter is Chico Corrales in what I believe was early 02. I would look past this if there wasn't anyone of skill available however consider the following: He fought: Hatton, old oscar, aging Shane, way out of weight class Marquez, Sosa, Bruseles, Baldomir, Gatti, Chavez, Zab, versus: Avaialble: Vernon Forrest, Prime Cotto, Prime Margarito, Paul Williams, Marquez (126 or 130), Casamayor, Kosta, Pac, Prime Shane, Now I do understand that Floyd fights for the check first and I am ok with that. Heck, I would do everything I could to make getting 8 figure paydays easy too. However, this does not remove the fact that Floyd has not exactly run through a murderers row of fighters. In my humble opinion, Floyd would beat everyone I listed above as available but we will never know. When judging Floyd's greatness, especially how great his fans and he thinks that he is, this is a serious bullet in that argument. I guess I have said all of that to say is that I am at best I am just lukewarm on Floyd right now.