IT'S OFFICIAL: Pacquiao-Mosley Is ON! PDF Print Email
Written by Michael Woods
Tuesday, 21 December 2010 23:14

How do you feel about this? Could you warm up to this matchup? Could Mosley do the impossible, the unthinkable? Are you crushed that Juan Manuel Marquez didn't get another crack? Sad that Manny didn't go for his ninth belt in a ninth class, maybe against Sergio Martinez?

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Don King's Turkey Tradition Trots Onward PDF Print Email
Written by TSS Press
Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:47

Four thousand turkeys were distributed near King’s Deerfield Beach, Fla., headquarters, fanning out to the cities of Miami, Little Haiti, Ft. Lauderdale and West Palm Beach; over 5,000 birds were handed out in King’s birthplace city of Cleveland and in nearby Orwell, Ohio; and 3,000 turkeys were made available to those in need in both New York and New Jersey.

“Of all the traditions I have taken part in during my life, none has brought more joy to me than the spirit of giving that takes place during our annual Turkey Tour,” King said.  “No matter how good or bad it is perceived to be for most Americans during the holidays, there are always people in need.  It has been my experience that a turkey on the table brings families and communities together with much joy.”

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Avila’s Best of 2010 In Boxing PDF Print Email
Written by David A. Avila
Tuesday, 21 December 2010 17:51

Every year it seems the last three months provide the most riveting action for the sport of professional boxing. This year especially as elite boxers showed what they can do in a number of bouts.

Here is a list of the best performers and performances that took place in 2010:

Fighter of the Year

Sergio Martinez, the middleweight champion of the year, arrived from Spain several years ago to compete “with the best fighters in the world” after beating most everyone outside of the United States. He was looking to prove his ability and eagerly agreed to meet hard-hitting Kelly Pavlik for the middleweight world championship. In that fight he decisively beat the Ohio slugger. Then without hesitation he accepted a rematch against the much feared Paul Williams. In less than two rounds the Argentine knocked out Williams with a left cross. Nobody had ever stopped Williams.

“I came here to prove I belong with the very best boxers in the world,” said Argentina’s Martinez.

Martinez, 35, knows he doesn’t have much time remaining in his career and is going for broke to meet and hopefully beat those considered the best in the sport of boxing. He arrived at just the right time.

Others who deserve mention are Indio’s Timothy Bradley, Manny Pacquiao, Andre Ward and Robert Guerrero.

Best Fight of the Year

Of all the exciting fights we saw this past month the Amir Khan and Marcos Maidana junior welterweight clash had the most drama. It was one of those beginnings where it looked like Khan was going to cruise to victory then slowly it reversed. Maidana clubbed his way back into the fight and fans were on the edge of their seat wondering if Khan could hold off the savage assault of the Argentine. It was a great fight on Dec. 11.

A close second was Humberto Soto’s 12-round title defense against Urbano Antillon in a lightweight rumble that was like watching two rams going full speed against each other. The match took place in Anaheim on Dec. 4.

In third place was this past weekend as the old wizard of boxing Bernard Hopkins fought to a majority draw against Canada’s Jean Pascal who holds the WBC light heavyweight title. Most felt Hopkins won easily though the judges in Canada scored it a draw.  Once again Hopkins proves a master boxer in the ring. He’s 45.

Best Round of the Year

Round 10 between WBC lightweight champ Humberto Soto and challenger Urbano Antillon on Dec. 4 at the Honda Center exemplified boxing at its best. Both 135-pounders refused to wilt under a barrage of punches that would have made other fighters seek shelter. It made fans squeamish yet it was amazing to watch. It was a great example of how two technically proficient fighters can make brutality almost look like art.

Best Knockout of the Year

With a single left hand Sergio Martinez proved superiority over Paul Williams with finality. Williams was short-circuited and could not get up for 30 seconds after that blow. Martinez had predicted before the fight that he would knock out Williams who had never been stopped before. The replay of the knockout showed Martinez putting his whole body behind that overhand left and Williams doing the same thing. Martinez reached him first.

Upset of the Year

Jason Litzau beating Celestino Caballero has to rate the biggest upset of the year. Litzau was a decided underdog against Panama’s Caballero, who was unable to obtain a fight with the other featherweight champions. Minnesota’s Litzau took the Nov. 27 fight and showed that with heart and self-confidence an athlete can do wonders. The junior lightweight from St. Paul was ecstatic following the fight. Rightly so.

Most exciting fighter
Alfredo “Perro” Angulo

Every time the Mexicali boxer steps in the ring fans can expect Angulo to look for a decisive win. Angulo’s wins against Joel Julio and Joachim Alcine were brutal affairs that saw the Mexican fighter trace his opponent’s movements like a heat-seeking missile. Both ended in impressive knockout wins. Angulo is having legal problems right now but that doesn’t take away from his accomplishments in 2010.

Michael Katsidis, Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez also deserve mention in this category.  

Every time Katsidis steps in the ring you can bet the Aussie is going to go hard. He doesn’t have a reverse gear and fights to win no matter who it is. He doesn’t believe in survival mode. It seems every time Katsidis is in the ring you can expect to get your money’s worth.

Pacquiao could have hit and moved when he fought Antonio Margarito but preferred to give the fans a treat and attacked the taller and stronger Mexican. Pacman took some unnecessary lumps in doing so and should be truly commended for his willingness to trade blows. His speed is exciting alone but his heart is amazing too. One of the greats.

Marquez used to have a safety-first style in his younger days, but you can throw that out the window. Now he takes many more chances and has proven that his technical prowess along with his fighting spirit has not weakened one iota.

Best Technical fighter

It’s close between Hopkins, Marquez and Floyd Mayweather Jr. But with Hopkins going on 46 years of age next month I’ll defer to experience. Hopkins not only fought Pascal to a disputed draw this past weekend, but he also beat old nemesis Roy Jones Jr. decisively to avenge an earlier defeat of 16 years ago. The Philadelphia boxer does so many little things in the ring that go unnoticed. Look at the fight of this past weekend and watch how he slips Pascal’s left hook by moving into the blow instead of away from it. Most boxers would try to duck under it or block it. The Canadian boxer was baffled.

Most inspirational

Robert “The Ghost” Guerrero’s ability to halt all training to assist his wife battle leukemia and then go back into training to fight the best prizefighters in the world successfully is legendary stuff. He’s a great fighter and an even greater person.

Honorable mention goes Yonnhy Perez of Colombia who spends most of the year here in Southern California pursuing his dream. He has a large family back in his country and uses boxing to feed and house all of them.

Contender of the Year

Miguel Angel Garcia quietly moved into the Riverside area and just as quietly moved into the number one spot as a featherweight contender. His boxing skills are no longer remaining a secret as he eliminates fellow contenders one by one. Garcia had five big wins including four by knockout in 2010. Top Rank’s Bob Arum has Garcia pegged for a title bout in 2011 possibly against Cuba’s Yuri Gamboa. That should be a great fight.

The young featherweight is knocking on the door of a world championship. It just might be the year of Garcia in 2011.

Best six-round fight

Usually I don’t consider fights of less than 10 rounds for special recognition. But a fight that took place at the Doubletree Hotel in Ontario between Colton’s Artemio Reyes Jr. and Alan Sanchez of Northern California was one of the most memorable in years. The crowd was mesmerized by the two boxers who battled like their life depended on it. It was great stuff on June 18. Reyes showed more defensive skills and won a razor close split decision.

Best four-round fight

Since I’m mentioning six rounds, might as well take a look at the four-round fights too. Ramon Valadez, a hard-charging junior welterweight slugger from East L.A. and Oscar Andrade, a southpaw slinger from L.A., both met at Club Nokia with identical 1-0 records. After four brutal rounds Andrade emerged the winner but the two fought ferociously like two alley cats for four rounds. Fans went delirious from the action.

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Radam G says:

I largely agree with Super TSS Bureau Chiefy D-Double-A. But I will add that Female Fighter of the Year is Kaliesha "K Wild, Wild" West. Most Inspirational Female Fighter of the Year is Ana "Da Hurricane" Julaton. Female Fight Trainer of the Year is Ann Wolfe, despite that certain powers that be has snatched her job away from her for revealing her lifestyle. The Texas Mandingo Warrior is going to be in deep kimchee without her is my take. She and he were made for one another just as much as GTOAT Angie Dundee was made for GOAT Ali, GBG Manny Steward was made for ATG Tommy "Hitman" Hearns and TNT Freddie "The no joke Coach" Roach was made for THC PacMan. Holla!

the Roast says:

Juanma vs Marquez was a thriller but my pick for FOTY was the one on FNF with the childhood rivalry. I forget the names. The one where the kid stole the other kids eggs or something like that. Sombody help me out.

Radam G says:

One other quick point. Who is the Ring Girl of the Year? Boxing is passed due in putting the ladies in the mix of kudos for what they adroitly do. The game would not be the same without these gorgeous and wonderful ladies. Where is da luv? I've seen tons of adorable Ring Girls bring more excitement to the squared jungle in that minute between rounds than the pugilists could bring in the whole three minutes of fighting or bullsyeting in a round. We are in the TIME OF CHANGE. Let da boxing scribes get on the joy train to EXPOSING da whole NINE of the boxing biz. Holla!

Isaiah says:

Sergio Martinez is the fighter of the year. Surely there can be no doubt and it's kind of a nice change being that 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009 belonged to Manny Pacquiao or Fraud Mayweather Jr. I'd also like to include Fraud Mayweather in several awards which include, but are certainly not limited to "best FIXED fight of the decade against Shane Mosley," "best DUCKING of a legit threat against Manny Pacquiao, not once but twice," best career worth of DUCKING LEGIT THREATS anytime after 2002 involving such names as Kotsya Tszyu, Antonio Margarito, Miguel Cotto (who lives to far away), Joshua Clottey, Paul Williams, Andre Berto, Sergio Martinez and Kermit Cintron." Also, Fraud gets the "best Sissy Boy, Pretend Gangsta and Menace to Society Award," "Best GIFT recieving in the first Jose Luis Castillo fight, the Oscar De La Hoya fight and not getting a DQ from the actions of his punk uncle in the Zab Judah fight and the last award of COWARD of the decade as being labeled by the media and ALL REAL boxing fans EVERYWHERE as well as the BS OSDT demands from him and his family who know a thing or two about drug usage as well as his insane fans who can't grasp the concept the Manny HAS given in to Floyd's NAZI demands.

the Roast says:

I've built a HUGE bonfire on the beach to signal some of the lost crew. AFN, Salt Lover, Real Talk, Ultimo, Eggs, Robert Curtis, my long lost love AfisherG. Come home. Anyone else I've left out? WAY back members like Jonald or Anony and that robot dr1142 or something. That dude knew his heavyweights. I'm going back for more firewood....

Radam G says:

QUIT IT! You are cracking me up, hahahahahahahaha! C'mon, MAN! Wow! How did you come up with that signal of BONFIRE? My side is burning from laughing so darn hard. I couldn't sleep. Now I'm spent from getting dat mucho laugh on. You are a riot! In da pit! DOWN GOES RADAM G! DOWN GOES RADAM G! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! Holla!

miguel1 says:

is canelo really the top prospect? who else is out there?

Editor Mike says:

Stolen eggs..was that Roman-Escalante?

the Roast says:

@EM, Bingo! That was the fight!



KIMBALL: Robbery? Tell It To The Judge PDF Print Email
Written by George Kimball
Tuesday, 21 December 2010 12:47

Robbery? Tell It To The JudgeThe eminent philosopher Leon Spinks considered the draw a fair and honorable result in a close fight.

“Nobody win, nobody lose, and everybody get to fight another day,” explained Neon Leon.

Let’s see: According to a WBC communication which landed on our desk two days after Saturday night’s affair in Quebec City, Jean Pascal is still the light-heavyweight champion and Bernard Hopkins is still the “Emeritus Champion.” (The coveted Diamond Belt presumably remains vacant.)

Everybody ought to he happy, but instead of celebrating the 45 year-old Hopkins’ achievement in pulling out a draw after falling hopelessly behind on the scorecards, the residue of the last big fight of 2010 is a bitter aftertaste. Prompted by B-Hop’s whining, his supporters have embraced the position that the majority draw represents a larceny of the first order and that anyone who disagrees must be a “hater.”

On Monday Hopkins, through his publicist, circulated a press release in which the decision was labeled a “robbery.” (In a fight that was in every estimate extremely close, a win by either man would have been controversial, but it’s hard to understand how anyone can get this worked up about a draw.)

The Hopkins partisans cite the fact that the Canadian crowd booed the decision as evidence of impropriety, but knowing what we do of Quebecois boxing crowds, it seems likely that many of them were booing because they thought it was Pascal, having Hopkins on the canvas three times before their eyes, who had been robbed.

In the rush to jump on the B-Hop bandwagon it has been widely assumed that American judge, Steve Morrow, who scored the fight 114-112 for Hopkins, got it right, and that Claude Paquette (Canada) and Danny Van de Wiele (Belgium), who both scored it even, were guilty of either wholesale corruption or rampant homerism in arriving at their conclusions.

Ringside judges are charged with scoring each round independently. The three officials hand in their scorecards after each round. They don’t maintain running totals. Those are added up by the local commission (in this case the Cousee de Quebec) at the fight’s conclusion. Judges do, of course, have a general idea of how their scorecard stands, but it’s the rare judge who is such a mathematical whiz that he remembers exactly how his scorecard stands, and the notion that Paquette and Van de Wiele decided to play “Switzerland” and deliberately rigged their scorecards to come up with even totals is pretty absurd.

We’re in no position to argue with the decision one way or the other. We weren’t there, and watched most of the fight with the sound turned off. But a post-mortem analysis of the three scorecards is in this case particularly instructive.

Van de Wiele, for instance, probably overstepped his bounds in recording only a 10-9 edge for Pascal in the first round, despite a knockdown. That score might be justifiable if Hopkins had literally thrashed his opponent for every portion of the round save the knockdown, but that was clearly not the case. Rather, it would appear that the Belgian judge decided that the knockdown was questionable even though Mike Griffin said it was, and elected to editorially overrule the referee. In doing so he would have been exercising a latitude which isn’t supposed to be within a judge’s purview. If the ref says it’s a knockdown, it’s a knockdown.

Van de Wiele, it should be noted, evened things out with a mid-course correction in which he scored the tenth round even.

But in examining the three scorecards, Paquette and Van de Wiele appear to have at least been watching the same fight. The rogue card, if there was one, was actually the one belonging to Morrow, who was all over the place.

All three judges had the same fighter winning in each of six rounds. Rounds One and Three went to Pascal on all three cards; all three judges gave Hopkins Six, Seven, Eleven, and Twelve.

The judges disagreed on the remaining six rounds, and in five of them it was Morrow’s card that diverged from those of his colleagues. The American gave Hopkins three rounds (Two, Five, and Eight) the other two both thought Pascal won, but he also gave Pascal two rounds (Four and Nine) everybody else thought Hopkins won.

Had Morrow scored either the second, fifth, or eighth for Pascal (and none of those would have been a stretch), he, too, would have come up with a draw. Instead, by what can only be termed a happy accident, his inconsistent card adds up to 114-112 and he finds himself being praised as the only honest one of the bunch. Does that make sense?

By the way, though it may have only marginally affected the scorecards, it’s interesting to note what a clubhouse lawyer Hopkins has become in his old age. Constantly complaining to the referee would have at one time been antithetical to his very nature, sort of the fistic equivalent of running to the cops.

Like the carping of a demonstrative basketball coach, B-Hop’s mid-ring pleas for law-and-order can produce its desired effect. In the absence of Hopkins’ howling, Griffin might have ruled a third knockdown (in the fourth), which would have put the issue out of reach. On the other hand, if Bernard Hopkins gets rabbit-punched once a week for the rest of his life he’ll still be way ahead in that department.

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Isaiah says:

Hopkins was robbed of everything but his personality. Pascal supposedly knocked B-Hop down twice, but the first knockdown was a cheap shot to the back of the head and Bernard dominated all the rest of the fight, so how was it a draw? I'll tell you all how. It's because it was in Canada and if the judges dared gave Jean the win, the American fans may have started a riot over the injustice so the next best thing was done. He got an early Christmas present wrapped up in a draw. How do you rob a 45 year old man of the win? The young guy should be ashamed of himself. This is like when Shannon Briggs got the "win" over a 48 year old George Foreman. Yeah, it's that bad! Well, we, the fans, know one thing. Whether it be a rematch with Dawson or B-Hop, Pascal's title reign isn't lasting long.

amayseng says:

even counting that first knockdown, even though it should not have counted, but counting at as i did i had still had hopkins winning convincingly. people, writers on here as well, i think are truly undermining this decision. this draw took the crown away from bernard as being the oldest champion in the history of this great, long sport. that is quite an achievement to have stolen from you. pascal was truly dominated from round 4 and on. people do not see what a special fighter bernard is to be able to dominate at this late age in his career.



Report: Pacquiao-Mosley Is A Nearly Done Deal PDF Print Email
Written by TSS Press
Tuesday, 21 December 2010 11:20

Freddie Roach says Mosley won't be easy, and Larry Merchant told us a few days ago that Temm Pacquiao considered Mosley the stiffest test of the final three in consideration, the other two being Juan Manuel Marquez and Andre Berto. Mosley has looked close to shot recently, and is 2-2-1 in his last five. We tend to trust Roach explicitly, so we'll try our best to totally respect his stance.

At age 39, with excessive mileage on the tires--the guy has been fighting for 31 years!--can Mosley give Manny a run for his money? Or is this just a run for some money, the last big adios payday?

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Radam G says:

A lot of people are thinking of Sugar Shane Mosley as being old and greasy, but he won't be that easy. He is more stubborn than Holyfield. Da Manny is going to have to put something on his arse every minute because the dude won't yield. He is boxing book. He has a good hook. To the fanfaronades, dangerous he may not look. But those in the know know that the sucka can still cook. Salty ole Sugar Shane has plenty tricks up his sleeve. You play him low, and every time he will heave -- straight up to gettin' on his beatdown. Ringing in my hears are the words of the "Old Mongoose," "Never take an old fighter as an easy-to-beat clown." Oh course, Archie Moore is RIGHT! Long Tall Paul Williams called Sergio Martinez "an old man who doesn't have a chance of beating me." SM kayoed that young arse. Pascal called old B-Hoppy an old man who didn't have a chance. B-Hoppy tore that youngan up, but was the victim of good ole home cooking. "Da Double MM" -- "Master of Misery" -- Michael Moorer called Big (Rev.) George Foreman an "old fart who is going to get the f*** knocked out." We all know who have got KTFO. Joey Maxim was convinced that he was in for an easy night with the Old Mongoose. NYET! Arrogrance and cockiness has gotten some younger cats fudged by the long-in-the-tooth ones. Will this happen to da Manny? Heck no! Because da Manny knows that GOD Above Doesn't Dig da AaC -- Arrogrance and Cockiness. So da Manny will train for the 39-year-old Sugarman as he would have if the Sugarman was still the same ole 19-year-old or 29-year-old Speed demon kickarse. Because when it comes to the human spirit and drive, an old man will superKICK an arrogrant-and-cocky youngan's NATURE, SOFT ARSE! And that is not just me saying that. I've seen these old boxing gods and demigods in live and on film with my own 20-5 (sic) eyesight. That's right! My eyesight is not 20-20. It is straight-up, no syet, 20-5. Time to hit da pit! Holla!

Editor Mike says:

Hope the money is worth it to Mosley. Hoping the effects of ring wear and tear don't show up on him as much as I expect they will.

MayweatherTHEGOAT says:

Pacquiao is a disgrace to the sport of boxing & not to mention the human race! It's obvious that Pacquiao is doping. When Mayweather Sr. & Golden Boy accused him of doping he filed a law suit immediately. When Teddy Atlas shared his information of Pacquiao's possible steroid use on Friday Night Fights Pacquiao did NOTHING! The richest T.V. station on the planet is ESPN. Teddy Atlas works for that station and that station is responsible for Teddy's comments. Why didn't Pacquiao file suit against ESPN and Teddy Atlas for his comments? I'll tell you why Pacquiao didn't file suit. Because Teddy has proof! And Teddy had to produce that proof to ESPN before he could share it with the public. Do your research on the above and you will believe as I do that Pacquiao is a disgrace to the sport of boxing & humanity!

Condor says:

@Mayweather - Atlas never said that Pacquiao was on steroids. I remember his remarks well. It was with Brian Kenny on their dialogue segment on FNF's, and he said that Tim Smith (NY Daily News) had unearthed an email, purportedly from Team Pacquiao, that asked what the ramifications would be for a Pacquiao positive test and if they could bury the story and keep it private should such a dirty test occur. Something to that effect. To my knowledge, Atlas never apologized, nor did he back off the comments. That said, Pacquiao is an absolute credit to the sport, but I wholeheartedly disagree with the choice of Mosley. I understand the politics of it all, the WHY behind it, but as a boxing fan, I'm not interested in promoting boxing politics and spin. I want to see the best fighting the best, and Manny Pacquiao unequivocally runs the show. He can pick ANY opponent (forget the hackneyed 'I'll fight who my promoter wants me to fight...'). And he's picking Mosley. Now, if we were in an era where fighters fought 4-6 times per year, I'd have no problem with it. An occasional gimme is deserved. But this is one of two 2011 fights, and Mosley is truly a journeyman right now. A journeyman with a name. Shane's been simply awful the last several years, and he's not going to get better with age. But, we're stuck with him. It's the dark side of TSS.

Isaiah says:

Well, Manny has gone and done it! He's fighting SHOT Sugar Shane whether we like it or not. Well, I suppose there are worse options, aren't there? With Floyd on vacation forever, at least this'll be a good warmup.

Editor Mike says:

Arghh. I'm just pretty damned sure Shane is shot. OK, who watched the Mora fight, and can recall how he looked? Just about no one did...so maybe Roach is right, and he is the sternest test of the Final Three. But I see him getting blasted as bad as 'Cheato...if not worse. Will I watch? Sure.

Editor Mike says:

Hey Isaiah...welcome. Thx for signing up.

Isaiah says:

@Editor Mike. I'm still getting used to this new format Mike. I took some time away from the site because I thought the old format worked just fine, but I'm warming up to it. Things must change, right? By the way, I think Mosley beat Mora fair and square, but a fighter just can't usually look good against a runner like Mora. I hope Shane shows some of his old self and gives Manny some fits.

Radam G says:

Styles make fights! The Sugarman couldn't handle Money May or Sergio Mora on their worst night. Most of those in the know didn't expect for Sugar Shane to look good against Money May or Mora. Nonetheless, the Sugarman looked better against Mora and the money loving Lil' Floyd than he did against the late, great, future HOFer Vernon "The Viper" Forrest years earlier. The Sugarman looked better against Mora and the guy on "paycation" than he looked against Winky Wright years ago. The Sugarman looked just as bad against Mora and Money May, as he did against Miguel Cotto years ago. Bottomline, it is greatly exaggerated that the Sugarman is SHOT! He is very long in the tooth, but far from being SHOT! Movers, cuties and fast-handed and/or quick-footed boxers have always made him look "SHOT" all the way back in the pee wee days of amateur boxing. [I can remember when cluttered-muttered-and-buttered-mouthed know nothings and jealous haters were saying that Sugar Shane Mosley would not be shyt as a pro. He's and ole Pops Mosley fooled 'em all.] Good thing that Team PacMan, Posse PacMan, Nation Pacland and THC PacMan are not thinking the way the boxing scribes and readers are thinking, or the Sugarman would be able to pull an old Mongoose arse thrashing on da Manny. Boxing is so full of optical illusions. [Mosley was playing possum in that Mora bout. He and the ole Genie Naazim are trying to pull some tricky jive. The fans and fanfaronades are eating that jive up, but not those adjoining to da Manny.] Those who don't know that are often fooled, or is it like Uncle Roger May says, "Most people don't know syet 'bout boxin?'" So they are always fooled. Da Manny is going to thrash and mash and crash that Sugar arse and bring the fight fans and fanfaronades runnin' with cash. But the Sugarman is not going to lie down. And he will win many more bouts after da Manny whoopa whop him. Ninety percent of the styles of boxing, Sugar Shane Mosley would be able to beat for a few more years. Dude is good, old stock like B-Hoppy, Rev. [Bog] George and the late, great, great "Ageless" Archie "Old Mongoose" Moore. Mosley-Pacquiao Bout -- if it happens -- will be one of the greatest bouts of all times, not just of 2011. Holla!

Isaiah says:

Sorry, but Sugar is no longer sweet. Don't get me wrong. He's probaly still about 70-80 percent of what he was on any given night, but that's SHOT when it takes to going up against the elites. Shane can still smack around the Fernado Vargases or Luis Collazos of the world and get lucky with beating an elite who just happens to have that plodding forward style made for him such as Antonio Margarito, but this is a good warmup, nothing more. As was proven once and for all to me in the Mayweather fight, Shane is not beating one of the cream of the crop such as Mayweather or Pacquiao. Expect Shane to give Manny trouble for the first 3 or 4 rounds and then simply get embarresed in losing a wide decision. Then again...... styles do make fights and I will ALWAYS suspect Mayweather/Mosley was fixed. (Since when does Shane tire out so easily or not truly go all out when an opponent is in danger?) That's neither here or there though. Manny has earned this gimmie and don't kid yourself, Margarito even after losing to Shane was no gimmie at his size difference, but Shane probaly is at this point. Manny, you should have picked Andre Berto as your next opponent you prick, but I'm going to let it slide this time. Don't make a habit of it though or paying customers like myself can find someone else to support, EASILY. Oh well. It's not like Mosley doesn't deserve the payday, especiallly after Jin took him to the cleaners. As far as Floyd Mayweather, it'd be fine by me if he ROTS in prison for being a menace, coward and depriving the fans of a great fight. Rot in prison punk!

Editor Mike says:

I expect Shane gives Manny as much trouble as Margarito did..maybe less...we will be tuning in to see how correct we are in our assessments. Guys, email me suggestions for the new site at MJWoods99@aol.com.

MisterLee says:

this fight stinks like my socks. yeah man, berto, marquez, bradley. those are tru fights. come on man, don't sell out! i don't want to see mosley in another prize fight again. no offense to him b/c he's my favorite fighter, but he's past his prime, past enough that he can't fight for a title. i bet zab judah could give him a tough fight at this point in his career. shower doors aside. holler!

FighterforJC says:

This is the worst matchup possible for Pacquiao because as I've said many times before, Pacquiao has zero to gain in this fight unless he destroys Mosley in brutal fashion. It's possible, but I think because of Pacquiao's style, Mosley has a better chance against Pacquiao. Pacquiao is a risk taker and Mosley will most definitely get his opportunity to land that big one on the chin. For Mosley's sake, I hope he is not only hoping to land that big one. I'm 100% sure of Mosley's strategy against Pacquiao. He will try to do what he did against Margarito, which is to outwrestle Pacquiao. Mark my words. Mosley is going to try to turn this fight into a STINKFEST and CLINCH FEST. He hasabsolutely no intentions of mixing it up with Pacquiao, it's all talk Freddie Roach, are you listening? Mosley is NOT going to engage Pacquiao. He will not even try to counter and pot shot. Mosley's #1 priority will be to shut down Pacquiao's punch output and the ONLY way Mosley could do that is by clinching. Team Pacquiao better make sure that the third man in the ring will have low to zero tolerance for Mosley's excessive clinching. I hope that Mosley gets a point deducted the first time he grabs Pacquiao. Mosley's plan is to wear Pacquiao down with grappling and holding and hitting tactics.

My2Judges says:

Manny Is the Biggest Fraud in the Sport….Come On Pac-man Fans Name One Fighter that he Fought that was the #1 ranked Fighter in that Division?? Or Came off a Great Performance in his Previous Fight Since Marquez?? Name him!!!! all u pac fans that like this match are scared to see their god get beat up. Another hand picked fight for pacman, he might just fight at heavyweight with evander holyfield and keep breaking records fighting nothing but chumps

#1 PacFan says:

Hello TSS! This new look is great! Anyway, this fight I will not support. SSM is way past his prime I can't believe Manny and his camp agreed to fight this old man. Say no to this fight!

FighterforJC says:

Manny Is the Biggest Fraud in the Sport….Come On Pac-man Fans Name One Fighter that he Fought that was the #1 ranked Fighter in that Division?? Or Came off a Great Performance in his Previous Fight Since Marquez?? Name him!!!! all u pac fans that like this match are scared to see their god get beat up. Another hand picked fight for pacman, he might just fight at heavyweight with evander holyfield and keep breaking records fighting nothing but chumps


Well good luck going against the opinions of the real boxing experts who picked him as the Fighter of the Decade. Judging by your English you're probably in the 6th grade, welcome to the sport! Short answer to your question, Ricky Hatton. Hatton was the top jr. welter when Pacquiao starched him. Even more impressive is in the short span of one year, Pacquiao has managed to destroy the top 3 welterweights of the past 3 years, two of which Mayweather has been avoiding for 5 years. lol. Now Mayweather is doing everything he can to go to jail to avoid having to fight Pacquiao. Pacquiao lost probably a total of 3 rounds in his last 6 fights. If that's not a great performance to you, I strongly suggest giving up drinking your own urine.

Radam G says:

#1PacFan ay sa ang Unibersino. Ano ang balita na, kabayan? Glad to see you sa dito. Alam mo ang oras at era it is. Enough said. Holla!

Editor Mike says:

I'm still getting used to it as well. We will tweak it, refine it..It will take time sir. Thx again for making the jump.

My2Judges says:

Well good luck going against the opinions of the real boxing experts who picked him as the Fighter of the Decade. Judging by your English you're probably in the 6th grade, welcome to the sport! Short answer to your question, Ricky Hatton. Hatton was the top jr. welter when Pacquiao starched him. Even more impressive is in the short span of one year, Pacquiao has managed to destroy the top 3 welterweights of the past 3 years, two of which Mayweather has been avoiding for 5 years. lol. Now Mayweather is doing everything he can to go to jail to avoid having to fight Pacquiao. Pacquiao lost probably a total of 3 rounds in his last 6 fights. If that's not a great performance to you, I strongly suggest giving up drinking your own urine.


You don't understand because you are a Pactard. Definition of Pactard "IGNORANT" see FightForJC. Hatton was KO'd by Floyd before Fraudquiao fought him. Even more impressive is Team Fraudquiao wants Mosley to do a blood test but Fraudquiao would never test. Name me one fighter that was #1? You won't because you can't. Be a Pactard all you want.

My2Judges says:

This is the worst matchup possible for Pacquiao because as I've said many times before, Pacquiao has zero to gain in this fight unless he destroys Mosley in brutal fashion. It's possible, but I think because of Pacquiao's style, Mosley has a better chance against Pacquiao. Pacquiao is a risk taker and Mosley will most definitely get his opportunity to land that big one on the chin. For Mosley's sake, I hope he is not only hoping to land that big one. I'm 100% sure of Mosley's strategy against Pacquiao. He will try to do what he did against Margarito, which is to outwrestle Pacquiao. Mark my words. Mosley is going to try to turn this fight into a STINKFEST and CLINCH FEST. He hasabsolutely no intentions of mixing it up with Pacquiao, it's all talk Freddie Roach, are you listening? Mosley is NOT going to engage Pacquiao. He will not even try to counter and pot shot. Mosley's #1 priority will be to shut down Pacquiao's punch output and the ONLY way Mosley could do that is by clinching. Team Pacquiao better make sure that the third man in the ring will have low to zero tolerance for Mosley's excessive clinching. I hope that Mosley gets a point deducted the first time he grabs Pacquiao. Mosley's plan is to wear Pacquiao down with grappling and holding and hitting tactics.


Your comments on boxing shows how clueless you are. Did you graduate from UOP? University Of Pactard

the Roast says:

I think yall are being too harsh on Sugar Shane. Shot is too far over the line. He lost to Floyd. OK. He beat Mora IMO. Mora is a stinker. The Golden Boy people should have NEVER put SSM in with this guy. Hard to look good against a guy who really doesnt want to fight. Pacman wins the fight but Shane at any age is better than Margarito or Clottey. You guys mark my words because I think the styles will mesh for good two way action. Manny will take the UD 8-4 or 7-5 in a much better fight than you think. Pacman is there to be hit. He's a warrior. He's not in there to dance around. Welcome #1 pacfan and Isaiah. It wouldnt be TSS without the whole crew.

brownsugar says:

mark my words,... Manny's not going to try to jump on Shane like some wet behind the ears hick from CornCob USA...He'll use movement and precision agression. After 4 or 5 rounds if Mosley is still standing,.. he'll think he's in the ring with harder hitting Floyd Jr... after Mosely is spent in the second half of the fight,.. Pac will go to work.. Mosley will undoubtedly catch him with a few... but by round 10,.. Mosley will get KO'd or quit on his stool.

#1 PacFan says:

#1PacFan ay sa ang Unibersino. Ano ang balita na, kabayan? Glad to see you sa dito. Alam mo ang oras at era it is. Enough said. Holla!


Hey Radam, same ol same ol here my friend. Still trying to get use to this new setup.

#1 PacFan says:

I think yall are being too harsh on Sugar Shane. Shot is too far over the line. He lost to Floyd. OK. He beat Mora IMO. Mora is a stinker. The Golden Boy people should have NEVER put SSM in with this guy. Hard to look good against a guy who really doesnt want to fight. Pacman wins the fight but Shane at any age is better than Margarito or Clottey. You guys mark my words because I think the styles will mesh for good two way action. Manny will take the UD 8-4 or 7-5 in a much better fight than you think. Pacman is there to be hit. He's a warrior. He's not in there to dance around. Welcome #1 pacfan and Isaiah. It wouldnt be TSS without the whole crew.


Thanks a bunch Roast, I can also say the about you.

the Roast says:

@B-Sug, no way Sugar Shane quits on his stool. A guy like that woulld never quit. Nazim may stop it late but I'm telling you Shane has more left than you think. Manny loves a fight. These guys are made for each other. Obviously it would have been a better fight a few years ago but thats water under the bridge.

the Roast says:

Hell yeah #1pacfan, this new TSS has alot of options once you get the hang of it.

#1 PacFan says:

Don't get me wrong this is a good fight from a fans perspective but not from critics who cover these guys. The reason why I don't like the choice of opponent is because its a no win situation. Floyd exposed him already in a tactical fashion. Manny would have to brutally defeat Shane the whole fight like no other have done to Shane. Shane has never been defeated in a way where you can say he's done physically. I'm all for Manny's legacy and this fight helps it in no way.

the Roast says:

I'd rather see Manny get in with some of these 140 fighters (any of them would be very interesting) but these guys really are unknown to the GP. Everybody knows Sugar Shane. This fight will sell well. Let one of these 140 guys rise to the top and we can revisit in 6 months or so. Floyd is out. Even if he pays his way out of jail time he really doesnt mant to fight Manny or he would have cut the BS by now.

FighterforJC says:

You don't understand because you are a Pactard. Definition of Pactard "IGNORANT" see FightForJC. Hatton was KO'd by Floyd before Fraudquiao fought him. Even more impressive is Team Fraudquiao wants Mosley to do a blood test but Fraudquiao would never test. Name me one fighter that was #1? You won't because you can't. Be a Pactard all you want.


If you're going to name call, at least ask your uncle to help you are something. lol. I'm sure you meant to say a BLOWN UP ricky hatton was TKO'd by Floyd in the WELTERWEIGHT division. Pacquiao fought Hatton at JR. welterweight, where Hatton was undefeated and rated number one. Don't ask questions if you can't handle the facts. Stop covering your ears and going "nana-na-nanana!" lol. Pacquiao should NEVER take the blood test because #1) Is not sanctioned by the commission 2) It is a test for cheaters and there's no proof WHATSOEVER that links Pacquiao to any steroid use, unlike Mosley, who has admitted UNDER OATH that he has. At any rate, I'm glad to know that you have internet service in your little cell where you'll be gladly picking up the soap when your new cell mate, Fraud Mayweather joins you in a couple of months. LOL. It must blow to be a Mayweather fan knowing that the entire boxing community except for Teddy Atlas is laughing at Mayweather right now. Mayweather has been a welterweight for 5 years and how many top welterweights has he fought? LOL. I'm sure you would say that Arturo Gatti, Carlos Baldomir and Juan Manuel Marquez are the most dangerous welterweights in the last 500 years, even more so than Miguel Cotto, Paul Williams, Joshua Clottey and Manny Pacquiao. LOLLLLLLLL

FighterforJC says:

You don't understand because you are a Pactard. Definition of Pactard "IGNORANT" see FightForJC. Hatton was KO'd by Floyd before Fraudquiao fought him. Even more impressive is Team Fraudquiao wants Mosley to do a blood test but Fraudquiao would never test. Name me one fighter that was #1? You won't because you can't. Be a Pactard all you want.



I apologize. You're not a 6th grader. You're more like a 2nd grader. Your question was which fighter did Pacquiao fight that was rated #1 in his division, the answer to which is Ricky Hatton, plain and simple, who was ranked #1 at Jr. Welterweight by the Ring Magazine and was the reigning champ as well. Like most Mayweather opponents, Hatton had to move up in weight to fight Mayweather. And get your record straight, it was Luis Collazo who first put the beating on Hatton, which is why Mayweather finally manned up to face Hatton...at welterweight! LOL. At least Pacquiao had the nerve to come down to 140 to face Hatton after he fought De La Hoya at welterweight.

Not sure about the whole blood test with Mosley I've read contrasting he said she said articles, but the fact is, Mosley has admitted under oath that he has used steroids, while there is absolutely nothing to link Pacquiao to any type of steroids besides racists who can't accept the fact that Pacquiao is beating white guys, black guys and latinos left and right. LOL

FighterforJC says:

After practically cleaning out the welterweight division, Pacquiao deserves to fight an old Shane Mosley, who at least has had the benefit to shake off the rust that was responsible for Mayweather looking so good against him. Mayweather's win over Mosley was a fluke and Mayweather almost got KO'd. The version of Mosley who looked horrible against Mora still would've knocked out Mayweather last May. At least Pacquiao's welterweight record doesn't consist of names like Baldomir, Judah or Marquez and has names sorely missing from Mayweather's welterweight record, such as Cotto, Margarito and Clottey.

Real Talk says:

This is crazy, smh.....wow. Why not March? Floyd vs. Manny will never happen now,this I am sure. Unless Floyd takes a fight with Cotto then Berto it aint happening.

the Roast says:

REAL TALK!! Where have you been! Let me get a look at you, awww welcome home my friend. We've been waiting for you.

brownsugar says:

what's poppin RealTalk... Hey I'm going to Vegas for vacation this year, I'll see if I can track down Mayweather for you, actually I'll settle for Roger or Jeff. Floyd actually has another video out saying that Amir Khan isn't ready for him yet(but is Floyd ready for Pacman?)... The fight I really want to see is Berto vs Cotto,.. Berto is actually the bigger man and would match up well with Cotto,.. but I think Arum has his eyes on very profittable rematch with Margarito... if he can get past the Wildman,.. Mayorga,.. who will probably have more nicotine in his blood stream at fighttime than is legally allowable by the boxing commission.

the Roast says:

What up Sug. I feel Cotto will let Berto down and leave him flat. I mean flattoned like Hatton. Cotto will step in on Berto and wreck his day. I think Berto is one of those reluctant fighters. He wants to box but he really dosent want to fight. He should have stepped up and fought Sugar Shane after the natural disaster. If he would have beat Shane at that time his career would have taken off. I know thats harsh considering his personal loss but there comes a time to be a hero and some step up and some cancel the fight.

brownsugar says:

Roast you're treading on dangerous ground talking about Berto (lol). Seriously I don't think Berto would have made the challenge if he wasn'ready to go to war. Berto's tendancy to brawl after he gets rocked is what makes him fun to watch. Not the best chin, but a willingness to slug may be Berto's greatest attribute and liability.

the Roast says:

I'd love to see them fight. Can miss brawl. Blood everywhere. Count me in!



HOPKINS: "The Film Doesn't Lie, Pascal Lost The Fight" PDF Print Email
Written by TSS Press
Monday, 20 December 2010 20:47

 The outcry from that fight led to an immediate rematch between Hopkins and Mercado, which took place April 29, 1995, less than five months from the original fight.  With fight stats from Saturday night clearly in his favor, as well as the majority of media reports and fan outcry backing Hopkins' assessment of the outcome, a rematch between Hopkins and Pascal should be scheduled immediately.

 "I knew if they could they take it from me they would and now that I have had the chance to review the fight on tape, I clearly know I won that fight," said Hopkins.  "Jean Pascal, his corner and all of the Canadians in the arena and on television know I won the fight too. The crowd was loud in the beginning but the silence was deafening as I dominated Pascal from the middle rounds all the way to the end of the fight. After the last round Pascal went back to his corner with his head and hands down.  I am sure he is still hanging his head today to think he let a 45-year old man beat him up the way I did. If I were him, I would want to redeem myself and my reputation immediately after what happened Saturday night."

 For Hopkins it was a brillant performance in front of a sold out crowd at the Pepsi Coliseum in Quebec City, Canada as well as for the millions watching on SHOWTIME® in the United States, on pay-per-view in Canada and around the world.  Complementing his argument for an immediate rematch are the statistics behind the bout which reflect the pure genius of Hopkins' intense execution of his own game plan and his destruction of Pascal's. Hopkins threw a total of 445 punches, of which he landed 141 power shots, more than 50% of the 270 he threw.  Pascal threw 100 less punches than Hopkins with 353 total shots, but landing only 85 of the 196 power shots he threw.

 "Again it is crazy to think that a 45-year-old fighter like myself threw and landed more punches than this so-called young gun, the current champion and still I am not given the win," said Hopkins. "Watch the tape. The poor guy was running scared, winded and backing up from round six and on. He seemed to just be holding on for dear life.  But he knows what happen in there and he has to live with it too. The film doesn't lie but I bet he doesn't even watch the tape so he, and all his people around him, can tell him something other than the truth. He lost the fight."

 Hopkins continued. "The whole thing is bad for boxing, bad for Pascal and especially bad for Canada.  Pascal knows he should do the right thing and fight me as soon as tomorrow."

 16 years earlier Hopkins got his rematch and convincingly defeated the Ecuadorian to capture his first middleweight world champion.

 "Pascal is a hard punching, a young gun you gave it his all Saturday night," said Hopkins. "But he is 18 years younger than me and that speaks for itself. It showed Saturday night too by just getting a draw, which everyone knows is really a loss, against a 45 year old man.  If this guy has a backbone and wants to walk around with his any kind of dignity and self-worth, the only thing he can do is fight me again. If that was me I know that is the only way I could really live with myself."

Comment on this article

Radam G says:

"The Film doesn't lie," but the minds and mouths do. The made-up minds of haters will choke the commonsense, sight and reality out of them. The lying mouths release the tongues that are so full of so many lie bumps that they looks like alligators intoxicated by smelly spit and high on bad breath trying to chop down on gnats and flies. I'm reminded of how some people say that you cannot tell how great a fighter was by looking at him on film. To THAT, I say BULL___! Ole B-Hoppy is spot on. There will be many haters who will never watch the tape of Pascal-Hopkins, because they want to be in self-denial for all times and pass it down for generations immemorial. Holla!

admin says:

Hey, was the first knockdown not a righteous shot. I have to re-watch, but I think it was a legal blow. ---EMike

Radam G says:

Nope! That first knock down was a rabbit punch. Partly B-Hoppy's fault, because he slid inside Pascal left hook and Pascal caught him in the back of the head instead of clinching or letting B-Hop throw a short right hand, which ole B-Hoppy eventually got going and made Pascal become unbraved about check and/or lead hooking. Holla!

the Roast says:

When it happened I thought it was a legit knockdown. I need to see it again.

amayseng says:

it was not a legal blow that caused the first round knockdown. however, even scoring it as

one bhop still dominated rounds 4 and on. on the belgiums scorecard he scored round 10 a draw, a round in which, if you watch, as i have, 8 times now, 8, 4 sound on, 4 sound off, bhop clearly, clearly won it decisively, even staggering pascal on two easily viewable occassions of 145 and 103 in that round. we need a new scoring system. how about 10 judges instead of 3, and an instant replay with rescoring to get it right. ya, sad

admin says:

I watched, and re-watched, and re-watched again that first knockdown shot. It looks to me to be a legal shot. It most assuredly is not definitively an illegal punch. And Fe'Roz, SO GLAD you are coming around. Who do we have to drag in here? Who's missing? Did BSug make it in?

the Roast says:

MISSING: AFN, Robert Curtis, Real Talk, Salt Lover, Isaiah, Ultimoshogun.....

Radam G says:

I hope that the miserable Clone[rs] stay MISSING! Editor Mike, how will that work? Will the cloners and stalkers be able to run wild like they did in the old TSS Universe. This new-looking, awesome Universe doesn't need all that ugliness and meanness IMHO! WE ARE IN THE TIME OF CHANGE! Hey #1PacFan, Boxeanne, AFisher, koolaid, Saul, Rudy, Leroy, Lid, deepwater, Eastar and Solo, c'mon, fly those ships and join us in this new, cutie pugilistic rhetorical Universe. Holla!

donputo69 says:

I cant see this old fart hopkins fight anymore...He needs to hang up those gloves already...holla back!!!

Editor Mike says:

Isaiah is here.

FighterforJC says:

I've lost all respect for Hopkins the man (not the fighter) after he pursued RJJ even after he got KO'd in the first round. After ducking Chad Dawson for two years and then jumping on the opportunity to fight someone he thinks he could handle, Hopkins deserved to lose to Pascal in this manner. He robbed the sport and now the sport is robbing him back.

amayseng says:

chad had a belt and was a champion how did hopkins duck him? bernard did not keep chad from a title shot.

at 43+ does bernard not have the ability to pick and choose?

chad has not been a draw, why would a 43-45 year old ex raining 20 defense middle weight champion jump in the ring if there was not something very worth while?

im a dawson fan, but i think bhop would be a tougher fight for him than u do.

i dont want hopkins to ruin him. he needs to carry the torch for the usa in the coming

years.

FighterforJC says:

chad had a belt and was a champion how did hopkins duck him? bernard did not keep chad from a title shot.

at 43+ does bernard not have the ability to pick and choose?

chad has not been a draw, why would a 43-45 year old ex raining 20 defense middle weight champion jump in the ring if there was not something very worth while?

im a dawson fan, but i think bhop would be a tougher fight for him than u do.

i dont want hopkins to ruin him. he needs to carry the torch for the usa in the coming

years.


Keeping someone from a title shot is not the only way to duck someone. Until Pascal beat Dawson, Dawson was considered by everyone to be the best light heavyweight outside of Bernard Hopkins. Dawson has been publicly challenging Hopkins while Hopkins provided excuse after excuse to not fight Chad Dawson, taking an entire chapter out of Mayweather's book. However, Hopkins picked and chose the wrong fighter, and since Americans are sick and tired of Hopkins' BS, non-action clinch-fests, Canada was the only place he could fight in without having to resort to blow up dolls to fill the empty seats. I'm not thinking anything as far as how tough Hopkins would prove to be against Dawson. I'm just thinking if you're gonna blab your mouth about being the best then fight the best. Who cares if Dawson was not "a draw?" A "draw" is what Hopkins was looking for and that's EXACTLY what he got against Pascal. lol.

amayseng says:

you just are not understanding it.
why would he fight dawson when there is no money. no draw equals little money.

pascal has a huge following and along with the crown of being the oldest champion in boxing history.

this is like trying to explain why its important to do homework and get good grades to my

little boy.

you just are not open to it is all

FighterforJC says:

You think there was money in the Ornelas fight? What about the rematch with RJJ? The entire boxing community was against that farce. On the other hand, just about every boxing expert was clamoring for a Hopkins-Dawson showdown. Hopkins avoided Dawson because it was a bad matchup for him, plain and simple. Joshua Clottey is anything but a draw, but Pacquiao still managed to fill 50,000 seats and get 700,000 PPV buys. You see, it is not Dawson who isn't the draw, but Hopkins, which is why the fight was held in Canada because Pascal at least had some fans while Hopkins doesn't have any in the U.S. or anywhere else, for that matter. He was bumming off of Pascal's fans.

Radam G says:

Wow! That was coldhearted. Surely ole B-Hoppy has a few fans. I'm reminded of "Jesus Wept." Holla!



BORGES: That Robbery Was Misdemeanor, Not Felony PDF Print Email
Written by Ron Borges
Monday, 20 December 2010 18:29


If you come into a young man’s hometown, get knocked down twice in the first three rounds (even if only the second was legitimate) and fall five points behind in a title fight it’s not a robbery when they don’t give you the decision. Of course, it’s also not right that they didn’t because Hopkins won without much question eight of the final nine rounds and deserved the 114-112 nod US judge Steve Morrow gave him.

The proof of that was twofold. First, not even Canadian-born judge Claude Paquette could in good conscience give Pascal the decision. Neither could Belgium’s Daniel Van de Wiele. What they could do though was simply stay out of it even though their job is to be into it.

Those two chose to play Switzerland rather than perform their only function (that we know of) at ringside Saturday night and judge the fight, opting instead to both call it a draw. One had it 113-113 while the other saw it 114-114. Either way Pascal had reason to celebrate Christmas a week early because the result was a majority draw and hence he retained his now diminished title.

The second bit of evidence that this decision was like someone pulling a wallet out of an unsuspecting innocent’s coat in a crowded arena was that over 16,000 Canadian’s booed lustily when the outcome was announced even though it allowed the hometown hero to retain the WBC’s version of the 175-pound title.

Hopkins, to be fair, lost nothing but the opportunity, as he put it last week, “to join the 7-foot lady’’ in the Guinness Book of World Records as the oldest fighter in history to win a legitimate world championship. Of course, that assumes you consider the WBC legitimate, which is a subject for another day and certainly not for the holiday season.

What the non-loss provided Hopkins was what he likes best: a chance to portray himself as victimized by the world in general and boxing in particular. In this case he’s right but enough already with that song.

“This was a sure enough robbery,’’ Hopkins said. “This is what hurts the sport.’’

It doesn’t help but what actually hurts the sport is that a 46-year old fighter can come into the hometown of a 28-year-old world champion, be hit in the back of the head once and have it called a knockdown and then get dropped by two legitimate left hands two rounds later and still end up not only beating said champion but making clear that he wanted to win more than the champion did.

In recent years the wily Hopkins has been forced by the unavoidable consequences of age to slow down his pace in fights. He always picked his shots carefully even as a young man and went about his work in the ring with the same stealth he once used to operate in the streets of Philadelphia.

But against Pascal, Hopkins knew he was in early trouble and so chose to simply outwork his younger opponent, tearing into his body with enough hooks to the liver and kidney to make Pascal a quite unwilling participant in the second half of the fight.

That allowed Hopkins to display what was for him a furious pace, outworking Pascal and out fighting him. In the end, Hopkins would throw nearly 100 more punches (92 to be exact) and land 66 more than the younger man. More significantly, over the final few rounds, the ones where championships are most often decided, he came forward and pressured Pascal while the latter seemed to be saying, “If you want it that bad…well, here.’’

“He looked tired from the sixth round,’’ Hopkins (51-5-2) claimed. “He was gasping. He held every time I got close and I just kept coming forward, throwing punches. I dominated the fight. Look at his face. Look at mine.’’

Visual evidence is often, though not always, significant both in robberies and boxing matches and so it was Saturday night. By the end of the evening Hopkins looked pretty much the way he had at the start while Pascal’s face was red and swollen on one side and he seemed decidedly underwhelmed by what had just transpired.

“I thought I won,’’ Pascal (26-1-1) said sheepishly, knowing he was fortunate Joe Isuzu wasn’t doing the interview.

“I thought I won…(“He kicked my ass but, hey, I’m Canadian!),’’ Isuzu would have muttered.

“It’s not that he’s that good (Just good enough to beat my butt all around Quebec City for a half hour or so!),’’ he would have admitted.

Whatever the truth of Pascal’s thoughts about what had happened at the Pepsi Coliseum, Hopkins was not hurt either by Pascal or by the result. He left without another belt but he’s already got enough belts to open an accessories shop in Philly if he wanted to and the fact is he was unlikely to ever defend it anyway because at 46 that’s not what it’s about any more.

For Bernard Hopkins it’s about getting paid and getting off on slapping around young kids like Pascal, who don’t know how  much they don’t know about boxing until someone like Hopkins comes in and gives them a very expensive tutorial on prize fighting.

Saturday night Hopkins got both and that’s what is actually bad for boxing. Not Hopkins himself because he is one of the few recognizable names the public has left in the game and he is enjoyable for anyone who appreciates the dark art of pugilism because he is a master at its many sordid details.

Watching Hopkins work on an opponent is like watching a master wood carver transform a block of fir into a carved-out sculpture. It is art with a brutal twist.

But the artist was not robbed Saturday night in Canada. He just had his pocket picked. By boxing standard’s that’s barely a misdemeanor.

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DJ_12 says:

Pascal already got his A@@ kicked by Carl Froch earlier in his career so we knew that he was not the real deal. Bhop knew that also which is why he took the fight. Bhop won in the court of public opinion plus he got a fat paycheck. Still it would have been nice to go back home as the new Lt Heavyweight Champion.

Radam G says:

I agree with SuperBoxingScribe Ron B all the way. Ole B-Hoppy should have expected and probably did expect hometown cooking. But I will give the judges great kudos for not being traditional crooks. Normally in a bout like that, B-Hop would have gotten robbed by a split decision. I was pleasantly shock that the Canadian judge had mucho class and courage that he could not give the nod to his home-country fighter. I can give him a BIG salute for having cojones to do the halfway right thing. I give Pascal a C- for being hyped and a scary cat at the same time. Holla!

brownsugar says:

testing123

Radam G says:

B-Sug is back in da Hizouze! Welcome to the soon-to-be 2010 TSS ROTY! Glad to see ya back. We appreciate ya! Holla!

brownsugar says:

I don't know about ROTY but it's great to be back Radam,... and this is more than a house... it's a veritable Castle.. won't say too much about the fight,.. you and Mortcola said it best... but it's funny that Pascal rose in popularity with his loss to Froch,.. and in an instant his stock plummets drastically in the eyes of his fans because of his socalled win over the ancient magical sorcerer of boxing Bhop (Pascal should just call him Pops). Now he has a daunting task in honoring his rematch to Dawson who has to have a frothing beard white foam around his mouth in anticipation of meeting him again... if he survives Dawson.... Bhop should be back on deck to administer another 36 minutes worth of credit hours of proffessional boxing 101...then we'll see if the Freshman from Canada has retained anything from his most recent lesson. @Roast,.. I was always here,.. you didn't see me making a fishnet out of bamboo thatch and Kudzu vines on the other side of the island lol. tight article mister RB.

the Roast says:

Whassup Brownsugar!! Glad you made it!

the Roast says:

I'm basking in Bears victory. Devin Hester into the record books. HOF.

brownsugar says:

agreed Fe'Roz this article is pure poetry,.. I was almost tempted to try and steal some of it's "essence" for open mike night at the weekly slam. But nobody can do Borges but the man himself.

in touch says:

Agree with the article. Hopkins should have expected that and, thus, started sharper. That being said, I give all respect to Hopkins for doing as much as he could to turn things around. I was disappointed with Pascal for fighting a scared fight. And not throwing a jab. How did he expect to beat Hopkins without throwing jabs? Terrible strategy. Bad trainers. Bhop threw nice, short shots and was effectively pursuing the younger fighter. Bad judging does not help to propel our sport. A few weeks ago, Victor Ortiz got robbed by the judges. This week, Bhop got ... dare I say robbed? Or... his pockets picked?

the Roast says:

You got that right Fe'Roz. He could have paid big bucks for a lesson like that!

brownsugar says:

I'm going to have to rewatch the fight to see what it was that changed Pascal from a banger to a survivor. some of those body shots must have felt worse than they looked.



The Most Stubborn Man In Boxing, Holyfield, To Fight In January PDF Print Email
Written by TSS Press
Monday, 20 December 2010 16:08

Holyfield (43-10-2, 218 KOs) will defend his World Boxing Federation heavyweight title against battled-tested veteran Sherman “The Tank” Williams (34-11-2, 19 KOs) in the 12-round main event.

“Redemption In American,” presented by ARK Promotions in association with The Greenbrier, will be distributed in North American by Integrated Sports Media for live viewing at 9 PM/ET 6 PM/PT on both cable and satellite pay per view via iN Demand, DIRECTV, Avail-TVN and DISH Network in the United States, as well as Viewer’s Choice and Shaw PPV in Canada, for a suggested retail price of only $29.95.

“Redemption” will fuse world class boxing and entertainment; showcasing a production that includes high-energy music presented by Broadway performers, along with dancers and aerial artists. Competitive supporting fights, soon to be announced, will set the stage for the main event featuring Holyfield on his journey to become the first heavyweight champion to regain the coveted world title four different times.

“Our show will be a one-of-a-kind event – real pain, real boxing, real entertainment,” ARK Promotions president Rick Lazes said. “Redemption is about America and Evander Holyfield on the road back to the top. America’s down but not out: Americans are winners, not quitters. Just like when we put a man on the moon; when we are challenged, we are at our best, so don’t ever count us out. Just like America, Evander will show the world that he still has what it takes to rise to the challenge.

“This show is a feel-good story about America and Evander Holyfield. It opens with a performance of Ray Charles’ ‘America,’ by Tony award nominee Brandon Victor Dixon, who plays the lead in the upcoming Broadway play, ‘Unchain My Heart,’ chronicling the life of Ray Charles. The audience will see a collage of America’s beauty and strength, including the Grand Canyon, Niagara Falls, Statue of Liberty, John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Marilyn Monroe, etc. All this will accompany Brandon’s amazing live performance of ‘America.’ I guarantee that it will give everyone goose bumps. The evening continues with non-stop boxing action, complimented by high-energy musical entertainment. It’s going to be a night to remember. No one has ever seen boxing presented like this before. If I were David Haye, I’d be counting my days as world champion.”

Holyfield has fought and beaten a virtual Who’s Who of the heavyweight and cruiserweight divisions during his Hall of Fame-bound, 26-year pro career, including world champions such as Mike Tyson (twice), George Foreman, Larry Holmes, Riddick Bowe, Michael Moorer, James “Buster” Douglas, John Ruiz (twice), Hasim Rahman, Chris Byrd, Pinklon Thomas, Michael Dokes, Dwight Muhammad Qawi (twice), and Carlos De Leon. Holyfield’s last fight was a win by eighth-round technical knockout against Frans Botha (47-4-3) last April for the vacant World Boxing Federation crown.

Williams, a native of Freeport, Bahamas, has defeated former world champion Al “Ice” Cole, fought multiple world title challenger Jameel McCline to a draw, and extended former world heavyweight titlist Ruslan Chagaev the full distance in their 2005 fight. Williams is a rugged heavyweight who has never been knocked down so expect an action packed fight to the finish.

Packages include event tickets, hotel accommodations plus tickets to the Greenbrier Classic PGA Golf Tournament in July and tickets to two concerts starring Tim McGraw and Keith Urban. Ticket/hotel packages can be purchased beginning at $575.00 per person at www.greenbrier.com or by calling 1.800.453.4858. Deadline to book reservations is Jan. 21.

Doors open at 6 PM/ET, first bout at 7 PM/ET, and first PPV fight at 9 PM/ET, 6 PM/PT.

For more information about the Holyfield-Williams PPV event go to www.greenbrier.com, www.NCMusicFactory.com or www.integratedsportsnet.com.

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the Roast says:

Evander Holyfield. The only boxer who ever made me cry. Stop fighting Champ. You have nothing to prove. Now I'm gonna go back to making a bong out this shell I found on the beach.

Radam G says:

I have nothing but love and great, mad respect for Holy. Stubborn is the emotion of a great champ. Nobody and dey momma can tell him or make him quit. Enough for him is when he decides that enough is enough or that he is carried out of that squared jungle horizonal. Holla!

DJ_12 says:

He has all of the ex-wives and dozens of children looking for the monthly support payments. Evander's welfare payments probably exceed the City Of Atlanta's.

test says:

I love this new site

the Roast says:

@Radam, I know that Holy has the right to fight and needs the cash but this has to stop. He is my Ali. I dont want to see him go out face down. Watching him lose to Byrd and Toney was torture for me. I nearly ended up in the fetal position after those fights.

FighterforJC says:

The Klitschkos have fought everyone else . It wouldn't hurt their careers to give Commander Vander another shot at the title. I say Holyfield has as good a chance as any of the previous Klitschko victims, although that's not saying much. Holyfield needs to be carried out on his shield or do something as spectacular as his upset of Tyson in '96. Fighting either Klitschko will result in one of those.

Paul Taylor says:

I thought boxing commissions existed to protect fighters from themselves. I guess ARK Promotions and "ethics" don't go together. I realize The Real Deal has a herd of children and a harem of ex-wives he has to provide for but this isn't the way to do it. Holyfield won't even know his own name in ten years.

Paul Taylor says:

I thought boxing commissions existed to protect fighters from themselves. I guess ARK Promotions and "ethics" don't go together. I realize The Real Deal has a herd of children and a harem of ex-wives he has to provide for but this isn't the way to do it. Holyfield won't even know his own name in ten years.



The 2010 Hauser Awards PDF Print Email
Written by The Sweet Science
Monday, 20 December 2010 11:43

MOST EMBARRASSING HIGH-PROFILE MISMATCH OF THE YEAR: Vitali Klitschko vs. Albert Sosnowski for the WBC heavyweight “championship.” Sosnowski had never fought, let alone beaten, a world-class fighter. Last year, he fought to a draw against Francesco Pianeta. Eight months before that, he lost an 80-72, 80-72, 80-72 decision to journeyman Zuri Lawrence. Lawrence has fifteen losses on his record and has been knocked out eight times.

WORST STOPPAGE OF THE YEAR
: Referee Gelasio Perez Huerta's fourth round stoppage of Lucas Matthysse vs. Vivian Harris in Mexico City. One punch, not very hard, and the referee stepped in. How bad was the call?  So bad that there wasn’t any controversy over it  Everyone with a brain agreed that it was just plain wrong.

SILLIEST CLAIM BY A FIGHTER'S REPRESENTATIVE
: The assertion by Leonard Ellerbe (Floyd Mayweather’s business representative) that there had been no negotiations for a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight.

THE “THIS WILL MAKE THE ANTITRUST LAWYERS HAPPY” QUOTE OF THE YEAR
: To Oscar De La Hoya, who told Ben Grossman of Broadcasting and Cable magazine, “I commend UFC for what they have done in such a short period of time. They are the only real player in their category, the mixed martial arts world. We [Golden Boy] need to sign all the talent and get all the TV dates. Then you can have your own agenda. You can do a monthly PPV, a bi-weekly HBO fight. When you have five or six promoters, it's very difficult.”

BRAVEST CORNERMAN OF THE YEAR
: Herman Caicedo, chief second for Shannon Briggs, when Briggs fought Vitali Klitschko. Honorable mention to Robert Garcia for his work with Antonio Margarito in Pacquiao-Margarito.

HEADLINE OF THE YEAR
: “Sulaiman Urges Calzaghe to Confront Cocaine Problem” (Headline we wanted to see in response: “Calzaghe Urges Sulaiman to Confront Obesity Problem”).

THE NATO AWARD (No Action, Talk Only)
: To David Haye, for talking big and offering nothing but gobbledy-gook as an explanation for why he was ducking the Klitschko brothers.

MOST ILL-CONSIDERED DECISION BY A REFEREE
: Arthur Mercante’s handling of Cotto-Foreman.

IRONIC STATEMENT OF THE YEAR
: Jose Sulaiman (at the March 11th press conference in Dallas for the Pacquiao-Clottey undercard): “Whoever knows me knows that I speak the truth or I don’t speak at all.” – It was duly noted by those in attendance that Sulaiman’s remarks were brief.

AWARDS OF THE YEAR
: To the NABF, which bestowed the following honors for the reasons quoted herein: (1) Promoter of the Year – “Square Ring kept the career of the legendary Roy Jones Jr. alive. Promoting fights between Jones and Omar Sheika and Jeff Lacy led to much bigger bouts for Jones against local hero Danny Green in Australia and a long-awaited grudge match against Bernard Hopkins.” (2) President’s Award: “Gale Van Hoy’s long and meritorious contributions to the organization are tremendous. Each year he runs a memorabilia auction that raises funds for the NABF treasury. Van Hoy is quick to assist in any endeavor that will enhance the reputation of boxing in general and the NABF in particular.”

INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD AWARD
: To Bernard Hopkins, for suggesting that Manny Pacquiao is reluctant to fight “a top-notch black fighter" because the styles that African-American fighters bring “from the streets” would be successful against boxing’s reigning pound-for-pound king. Hopkins is already fondly remembered for declaring “I would never let a white boy beat me” before losing to Joe Calzaghe.

THE "DO YOU REALLY EXPECT US TO BELIEVE THAT" STATEMENT OF THE YEAR: To Wladimir Klitschko. When every network in the United States passed on Wladimir’s title defense against American Eddie Chambers, Team Klitschko arranged for a pay-per-view webcast on Klitschko.com, and Wladimir issued a press release that read, "I enjoy working on the computer and I am very interested in new technologies. I like the idea that we are pioneers with this new technology.”

THE IL PAPA DOC AWARD: To Jose Sulaiman, who was recognized by the Guinness Book of Records as “the longest-serving president of a world sports organization.” Sulaiman’s reign as WBC president (thirty-five years and counting) is well behind the benchmark for monarchs set by Ngwenyama Sobhuza II of Swaziland, whose reign dated from 1899 to 1982. King Sobhuza had seventy wives and 210 children. However, none of the children is believed to be as charming as Jose’s son, Mauricio.

ADVICE OF THE YEAR AWARD: To whoever tells Emma Bowe that, if she wants to “help” Ricky Hatton, she should shut her big fat mouth.


Thomas Hauser can be reached by email at thauser@rcn.com. His most recent book (“Waiting For Carver Boyd”) was published by JR Books and can be purchased at http://www.amazon.co.uk/ or http://www.abebooks.com.
Hauser says that Waiting for Carver Boyd is “the best pure boxing writing I’ve ever done.”

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joey3fingers says:

this is a test

Radam G says:

Let this be an award too. There is one and only one Radam G. I'm guessing that all can now see that Joey and I are not the same reader under different pseudonyms. Welcome Joey Three fingers. Time to hit da pit before the Leyte sun start peeping through my window and getting on its sunburn on my pretty face. Holla!

joey3fingers says:

I helped make the new site, and it was about time i set up my own username and login. Also noticed mike was using my admin account so now its all his.

DJ_12 says:

Bhop versus Pascal ending in a draw. The two judges who declared that fight a draw should never judge a fight again.

Isaiah says:

According to the picture in this article, there's another award. "The man most likely to play Gomer Pyle if they make another Andy Griffith movie" is Oscar De La Hoya, the Golden Boy, Money Magnet himself. "Well Gollllllllleeee Bobby Arum! Floyd Mayweather sure done messed my big money makin scheme by retiring and such! Please let me make sum money off the Pacman to cus I done messed up my business!" Anyway, yes, In the Hopkins/Pascal fight, B-Hop was robbed of everything but his personality and the judges knew they'd cause a riot if they gave Pascal the win, so they gave him the next best thing in an early Christmas present draw. Disgraceful! Reminds me of Briggs "winning" over a 48 year old George Foreman. Yeah, it's that bad! Rematch with Dawson or Hopkins and you can bet that Pascal won't be champ long.

GerardMcL says:

So is Thomas Hauser now a feature writer for sweetscience?
I had been reading his articles faithfully on secondsout.com as I think he is best boxing writer working today.



ALL HAIL HOPKINS: The Legend Schools Pascal, Gets Draw PDF Print Email
Written by Michael Woods
Saturday, 18 December 2010 23:35

Hopkins asked the media not to downplay his foe if he won, and he damn well deserves that respect. After a rough early going, he got the old bones and joints lubed, and put Pascal in a trance. Can we question Pascal's gameplan? Sure; but only minimally, because Hopkins, with his mind games, and with his superior ring generalship, rendered the Canadian the lesser being after the weak start. After, Hopkins said, "The world seen it..I had the guy beat up, he was the guy holding. I'm the older guy, c'mon man. That's not right, man. I won every round..."

He said the first knockdown wasn't legit, a "a back of the head shot.

"I dominated the fight..look at his face, look at mine," he said. How about a rematch? "I'm too dangerous for everybody. This was a sure enough robbery. I took him to school." He said he got screwed, because he was in Pascal's territory. "I believe I won, I know I won," he said.

Pascal said he thought he won, and said Hopkins fought "ugly, dirty." He said he didn't get a gift from the judges. "If he want a rematch, anytime," he said to Jim Gray post-fight.

"I think I did enough to win the fight," he said, as Gray told him he lost.

Judge Steve Morrow had it 114-112, for Hopkins, while Claude Paquette saw it 113-113, a draw, and Daniel van de Wielle had it 114-114, for a majority draw. But it was the Philly man, who has forgotten more than virtually anyone else has learned, who owned the second three quarters of the scrap. We don't need any judges to tell us how to view this effort. You bet against, or write off Hopkins at your own peril. To you all, to Hopkins I say: never again. Even if he gloves up in 2016, against the latest young gun, I'm not going to go there. It's not prudent.

Pascal (26-1 entering; from Haiti, and living in Quebec) weighed  174 3/4, while Hopkins (51-5-1; from Philly) was 174 1/2 pounds on Friday. Hopkins made his way to the ring first. He was booed like he just said that he came from spitting on the grave of Rocket Richard. The vet wore a balaclava, rather than a more ornate executioner mask, as he soaked in the boos, and fueled himself with the derision. To add to the moment, an old crooner belted out "My Way" as he walked behind Bernard to the ring. Michael Griffin reffed, and had a more than respectable outing.

In the first, Pascal circled the huge ring. He wanted Hopkins to lead. A counter left by Pascal and a solid right to the ear both told Hopkins that Pascal wouldn't just jab and run to a win. A right  to the side of the head, as Hopkins crowded him, sent Hopkins to the mat at the end of the round. He grinned as he sat on his stool. This was the first time he'd been down in 16 years.

In the second, Pascal again wanted Hopkins to lead early. Bernard got more comfortable, landing and clinching. But a leaping left by Pascal gave the crowd a buzz to end the round.

In the third, Pascal backed Bernard up at times, and then circled, and waited patiently, and dictated the tempo. A left hook put Hopkins down with 30 seconds left, as he got caught as he was about to counter, in close, once again. Hopkins threw for two seconds after the bell ended the round. Did he not hear the bell in a loud building?

In the fourth, Hopkins ripped hooks and rights to the body. But when he missed, he missed big. He went to the mat again off a right hand. Again, he wasn't looking, and got  clipped.  But it was a foul, behind the head, clearly. This round, Pascal worked after the bell.

In the fifth, Hopkins' hook had zing. Was Pascal respecting the elder too much? Pascal slipped a shot,  and delivered a right hand that landed clean at the end of the round, to cap a decent round for each man.

In the sixth, Hopkins' jab wasn't a factor early, despite a plea from trainer Naazim Richardson to use it. He landed a right counter which backed up Pascal at 1:50. Pascal made Hopkins miss a good deal, but didn't make him pay. He needed his corner to offer a Plan B. He was running too much from an "old" man.

In the seventh, Hopkins scored with the left hook. His hand speed was superb, for a twentysomething. Another round for the canny vet. The crowd reacted; they were church-quiet.

In the eighth, a right by Hopkins sent a signal that he would be in charge this round too. A left counter scored, but Hopkins grinned and mugged. Pascal finally awoke from the trance in this round. It was a close round, in a close fight, and the fans sat quiet, contemplating the unexpected.

In the ninth, there was some hot action. Hopkins slammed home a right cross at 1:20. Again, a tight round.

In the tenth, Hopkins scored with left hooks to the body, and lead rights as Pascal edged close. Pascal scored clean but the oldster refused to crumble. Sneaky quick Hopkins shook his head, maintaining he wasn't bothered by anything. "Keep attacking," trainer Marc Ramsay told Pascal.

In the 11th, Hopkins was ripping with the meaner shots. Pascal looked weathered. Pascal went down, but from tangled feet with 15 seconds left.

In the 12th, Hopkins came out flurrying. He threw lead rights, came forward, scored with hooks.. 45??? A right counter by Pascal was sharp. They traded, and the house went ballistic. We'd go to the cards.

Hopkins went 171-445, to 105-353 for the hometowner.

SPEEDBAG George Chuvalo, Lucian Bute and Glen Johnson sat and watched live. ---Our own Bernie Fernandez scored from press row for Showtime, and saw it 115-112 for Bernard. ---Antonio Tarver said he wouldn't argue with the decision, but he had Pascal winning. Al Bernstein said, "Hopkins won in perception..I think that the decision is not an absurd one." He had Hopkins up a point. How about you, TSS Universe? Lay it out in the BRAND, SPANKING NEW FORUM, BABY! Comment on this article

the Roast says:

I'm starting to feel like Tom Hanks in Castaway. WILSON!!!!!

mortcola says:

Don't worry, Roast, I'm here. Just you and me and Wilson. Anyway, there were two fights here. The fight, and the arithmetic. The fight was mostly Hopkins. F-in' genius. Not even particularly dirty - spoilsport Pascal was way off when he used that old criticism. Bernard beat him hands down most of the fight from the outside, feinting, dictating pace and distance, jabs, lead hooks and crosses, crunching body shots with more speed and pop (grand-pop) than B-Hop has shown in years. Pascal only succeeded with occasional, single, speedy counters. Not nearly enough. Then there's the arithmetic. If both knockdown rounds are scored 10-8, the fourth is called even, and Hopkins wins EVERY round remaining, then it is Hopkins' fight, 115-112. If Pascal takes ONE round between the 5th and the 12th, and one more is scored even, then it is a 114-114 draw. If the first knockdown is waived due to the rabbit punch (which it was, unlike the Johnson-Green knockdown, which was due to Green's intentionally leaning down and away from a straight punch), then Hopkins gains one more point, losing the round 10-9. The knockdown in the third was a legit one, in a round B-Hop was winning. Sorry, you lost that one, Bernard. What we have here is a matter of arithmetic and one debatable referee's call. As for who dominated the fight, full props to B-Hop, for one of the best demonstrations of ring generalship and effective, economical punching I've seen since Mayweather shut down (night of the walking) Mosley. Except in this case, the old man did the whuppin', and the young speedy guy ran around, huffing and puffing and looking lost. Arithmetically acceptable result. And, as good as Hopkins was, he had Pascal legitimately hurt on three occasions, twice from body shots and once from a stunning right lead, and didn't press a potentially fight-ending advantage, possibly costing himself a TKO or the points earned from a knockdown. He won a moral victory that people will remember. But the scorecards were justifiable. Unless tweaked ever-so-little to keep Pascal in the draw. Just sayin'.

DJ_12 says:

Agree with prior post, the 1st knockdown was BS and the 2nd was legit. Still, BHOP won every other round. Those vicious left hooks that Bhop threw to Pascal's body paid dividends. Pascal was hurt at least two times in this fight and was afraid to mix it up. Bhop was never hurt and his face was was unmarked. Pascal is a "B" fighter. How Chad Dawson lost to this guy is beyond me. Major props to BHOP as he should have been crowned the new Light Heavyweight Champ. Amazing performance for a 45 year old man.

amayseng says:

even with the knockdowns scored, even tho the first should not have counted, counting it i still had hopkins winning easily. he was masterful with body work, sneaky left hooks upstairs and numerousn short rights. the controversy was that the belgium judge gave round to a draw, even, if he gave it to bhop which he should have bhop would have won. bhop clearly won that round except for two burst from pascal. at 145 and 103 of that round bhop staggered pascal, watch his legs when he is hit, the first a right hand and at 103 left hooks i believe. no way bhop drew this fight, he won it. he has pascal lunging missing shots like an amateur and running away, running away, i have never seen a champion run away when getting hit, for 7 rounds. round 12 was close but should have had a point taken away probably twice for pascal holding like a mofo. the ref was horrible, also, bhop was not fighting dirty, not at all for pascal to call that out is bullshit. and another thing, hey pascal you are not a SOLDIER, soldiers are in iraq and around the world right now taking bullets and grenades and dying so dont even pull that disrespectful shiiiit. pascal got schooled, beat up and looked lost, he was also hitting behind the head. what a masterful performance by bhop, i am blessed to have watched it.

Radam G says:

I feel like I'm in outerspace, but I guess this is cyberspace. In real space, ole B-Hop and the ole genie Naazim are awesome. Nice new Universe. Now the pugilistic biz can get some new judges with good seeing. Holla!

admin says:

Radam said "nice new Universe." AWRIGHT. --Editor Mike

admin says:

Welcome MORT! --EM

admin says:

Hi Roast! --EM

admin says:

FYI That photo with the fight report I think fit really well..but I gotta admit, it came from the Hopkins-Jones fight. ---EM

the Roast says:

What up EM! Now we're getting some where! Welcome Radam and mortcola. I can't call last night a robbery. It was close. I feel Hopkins benefited from those knockdowns. He came out for the fourth round knowing he was five points down. Hopkins knew he had to change the momentum and he did. Amazing performance.

Radam G says:

@The Roast, a draw - which it was - or a close call for B-Hop would have been fine. For a sec, I thought B-Hop was going to be bouncing up and down off the canvas like Juan Manuel Marquez, who has since expressed anger at Sugar Shane Mosley for wanting to tangle with THC PacMan. Despite all of that, I think that B-Hop and Pascal should go at it again on the undercard of THC PacMan and JMM. That card would make some mean bucks, and should be held in Manila. It could be called "The Double Trouble Thrilla in Maynila Bringing a Conclusion to the Confusion of Somebody's Victorious Delusion. Holla!

mortcola says:

Like Radam says, great new Universe. Can't wait to swim around and check it out.

the Roast says:

Just getting back from gathering some firewood. I spelled out S O S with stones on the beach. Speared a fish. @ Radam, It did look like B-Hop was in for an early exit but he came back strong. That's all you can ask any athlete to do in the moment is to go for it. Seize the M F-ing day. I didnt think Bernard could still get down like that.

the Roast says:

Fe'Roz! Nice to see you make it! This is a great new U EM has set up. How did you like the fight last night?

Smoke says:

This fight far exceeded my expectations. I was thoroughly impressed with Bernard's ring savvy and his ability to make the other fighter look just mediocre. A masterful performance by Hopkins. I am glad everyone is starting to come back after the big change. When I first signed on to the new format all I saw as a member was Don Puto. So welcome back all! Change is good!

Radam G says:

@SMOKE, ditto! And change is indeed wonderful. For the first time in a while, now all the regs and highly intelligent readers/posters can be certain that a post is me instead of obnoxious clones and/or stalkers. With that said, ole B-Hoppy proved what the late, great "Old Mongoose" Archie Moore said to me and a band of other toddlers and pupils at that time/age/stage. "Never get too cocky, because an old man can put something on a young [arse] that that [arse] has never seen." B-Hop confused Pascal with the old school slip and slide, ride and hide, turn and burn, nail and sail and blind and shine. This is how the Old Mongoose beat speed and youth back in his era. Ole B-Hoppy turned a youthful speed demon into a herky-jerky scary chump case. He'd slip Pascal's right, slide inside the hook and nail Pascal with a right cross then turn and burn Pascal with his own left hook to the head or left uppercut to the body. This scare the heck of out the Haitian-Canadian, IMHO. It is was a straight masterpiece how Ole B-Hoppy would feint and make Pascal almost jump out of his skin, then B-Hop would get his sail on with lateral movement then blind Pascal with that left jab then body-and-head shine him with a right-left-uppercut-right combo, then nail him with another uppercut while hiding behind feints. This bout was the most exciting one that B-Hop has been in in a long time. But like always the computer punch stats counters fudged up. They apparently missed counting several accurate punches that B-Hop scored on Pascal. And I guess that they were so use to B-Hop being a conservative puncher that they decided ahead of time to not give him a high count of punches or scoring one. In the 10th and 11th rounds, B-Hop whopped Pascal with about 40 shots, but the stats counters gave him in the teens. Holla!

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