ALL HAIL HOPKINS: The Legend Schools Pascal, Gets Draw |
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| Written by Michael Woods | |||
| Saturday, 18 December 2010 23:35 | |||
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Hopkins asked the media not to downplay his foe if he won, and he damn well deserves that respect. After a rough early going, he got the old bones and joints lubed, and put Pascal in a trance. Can we question Pascal's gameplan? Sure; but only minimally, because Hopkins, with his mind games, and with his superior ring generalship, rendered the Canadian the lesser being after the weak start. After, Hopkins said, "The world seen it..I had the guy beat up, he was the guy holding. I'm the older guy, c'mon man. That's not right, man. I won every round..."
mortcola says:
Don't worry, Roast, I'm here. Just you and me and Wilson. Anyway, there were two fights here. The fight, and the arithmetic. The fight was mostly Hopkins. F-in' genius. Not even particularly dirty - spoilsport Pascal was way off when he used that old criticism. Bernard beat him hands down most of the fight from the outside, feinting, dictating pace and distance, jabs, lead hooks and crosses, crunching body shots with more speed and pop (grand-pop) than B-Hop has shown in years. Pascal only succeeded with occasional, single, speedy counters. Not nearly enough. Then there's the arithmetic. If both knockdown rounds are scored 10-8, the fourth is called even, and Hopkins wins EVERY round remaining, then it is Hopkins' fight, 115-112. If Pascal takes ONE round between the 5th and the 12th, and one more is scored even, then it is a 114-114 draw. If the first knockdown is waived due to the rabbit punch (which it was, unlike the Johnson-Green knockdown, which was due to Green's intentionally leaning down and away from a straight punch), then Hopkins gains one more point, losing the round 10-9. The knockdown in the third was a legit one, in a round B-Hop was winning. Sorry, you lost that one, Bernard. What we have here is a matter of arithmetic and one debatable referee's call. As for who dominated the fight, full props to B-Hop, for one of the best demonstrations of ring generalship and effective, economical punching I've seen since Mayweather shut down (night of the walking) Mosley. Except in this case, the old man did the whuppin', and the young speedy guy ran around, huffing and puffing and looking lost. Arithmetically acceptable result. And, as good as Hopkins was, he had Pascal legitimately hurt on three occasions, twice from body shots and once from a stunning right lead, and didn't press a potentially fight-ending advantage, possibly costing himself a TKO or the points earned from a knockdown. He won a moral victory that people will remember. But the scorecards were justifiable. Unless tweaked ever-so-little to keep Pascal in the draw. Just sayin'.
DJ_12 says:
Agree with prior post, the 1st knockdown was BS and the 2nd was legit. Still, BHOP won every other round. Those vicious left hooks that Bhop threw to Pascal's body paid dividends. Pascal was hurt at least two times in this fight and was afraid to mix it up. Bhop was never hurt and his face was was unmarked. Pascal is a "B" fighter. How Chad Dawson lost to this guy is beyond me. Major props to BHOP as he should have been crowned the new Light Heavyweight Champ. Amazing performance for a 45 year old man.
amayseng says:
even with the knockdowns scored, even tho the first should not have counted, counting it i still had hopkins winning easily. he was masterful with body work, sneaky left hooks upstairs and numerousn short rights. the controversy was that the belgium judge gave round to a draw, even, if he gave it to bhop which he should have bhop would have won. bhop clearly won that round except for two burst from pascal. at 145 and 103 of that round bhop staggered pascal, watch his legs when he is hit, the first a right hand and at 103 left hooks i believe. no way bhop drew this fight, he won it. he has pascal lunging missing shots like an amateur and running away, running away, i have never seen a champion run away when getting hit, for 7 rounds. round 12 was close but should have had a point taken away probably twice for pascal holding like a mofo. the ref was horrible, also, bhop was not fighting dirty, not at all for pascal to call that out is bullshit. and another thing, hey pascal you are not a SOLDIER, soldiers are in iraq and around the world right now taking bullets and grenades and dying so dont even pull that disrespectful shiiiit. pascal got schooled, beat up and looked lost, he was also hitting behind the head. what a masterful performance by bhop, i am blessed to have watched it.
Radam G says:
I feel like I'm in outerspace, but I guess this is cyberspace. In real space, ole B-Hop and the ole genie Naazim are awesome. Nice new Universe. Now the pugilistic biz can get some new judges with good seeing. Holla!
admin says:
Radam said "nice new Universe." AWRIGHT. --Editor Mike
admin says:
Welcome MORT! --EM
admin says:
Hi Roast! --EM
admin says:
FYI That photo with the fight report I think fit really well..but I gotta admit, it came from the Hopkins-Jones fight. ---EM
the Roast says:
What up EM! Now we're getting some where! Welcome Radam and mortcola. I can't call last night a robbery. It was close. I feel Hopkins benefited from those knockdowns. He came out for the fourth round knowing he was five points down. Hopkins knew he had to change the momentum and he did. Amazing performance.
Radam G says:
@The Roast, a draw - which it was - or a close call for B-Hop would have been fine. For a sec, I thought B-Hop was going to be bouncing up and down off the canvas like Juan Manuel Marquez, who has since expressed anger at Sugar Shane Mosley for wanting to tangle with THC PacMan. Despite all of that, I think that B-Hop and Pascal should go at it again on the undercard of THC PacMan and JMM. That card would make some mean bucks, and should be held in Manila. It could be called "The Double Trouble Thrilla in Maynila Bringing a Conclusion to the Confusion of Somebody's Victorious Delusion. Holla!
mortcola says:
Like Radam says, great new Universe. Can't wait to swim around and check it out.
the Roast says:
Just getting back from gathering some firewood. I spelled out S O S with stones on the beach. Speared a fish. @ Radam, It did look like B-Hop was in for an early exit but he came back strong. That's all you can ask any athlete to do in the moment is to go for it. Seize the M F-ing day. I didnt think Bernard could still get down like that.
the Roast says:
Fe'Roz! Nice to see you make it! This is a great new U EM has set up. How did you like the fight last night?
Smoke says:
This fight far exceeded my expectations. I was thoroughly impressed with Bernard's ring savvy and his ability to make the other fighter look just mediocre. A masterful performance by Hopkins. I am glad everyone is starting to come back after the big change. When I first signed on to the new format all I saw as a member was Don Puto. So welcome back all! Change is good!
Radam G says:
@SMOKE, ditto! And change is indeed wonderful. For the first time in a while, now all the regs and highly intelligent readers/posters can be certain that a post is me instead of obnoxious clones and/or stalkers. With that said, ole B-Hoppy proved what the late, great "Old Mongoose" Archie Moore said to me and a band of other toddlers and pupils at that time/age/stage. "Never get too cocky, because an old man can put something on a young [arse] that that [arse] has never seen." B-Hop confused Pascal with the old school slip and slide, ride and hide, turn and burn, nail and sail and blind and shine. This is how the Old Mongoose beat speed and youth back in his era. Ole B-Hoppy turned a youthful speed demon into a herky-jerky scary chump case. He'd slip Pascal's right, slide inside the hook and nail Pascal with a right cross then turn and burn Pascal with his own left hook to the head or left uppercut to the body. This scare the heck of out the Haitian-Canadian, IMHO. It is was a straight masterpiece how Ole B-Hoppy would feint and make Pascal almost jump out of his skin, then B-Hop would get his sail on with lateral movement then blind Pascal with that left jab then body-and-head shine him with a right-left-uppercut-right combo, then nail him with another uppercut while hiding behind feints. This bout was the most exciting one that B-Hop has been in in a long time. But like always the computer punch stats counters fudged up. They apparently missed counting several accurate punches that B-Hop scored on Pascal. And I guess that they were so use to B-Hop being a conservative puncher that they decided ahead of time to not give him a high count of punches or scoring one. In the 10th and 11th rounds, B-Hop whopped Pascal with about 40 shots, but the stats counters gave him in the teens. Holla! admin says:
So glad you made it. For us "more mature" folk, figuring out how to sign in, sign on, log in can be a trial. Thanks for sticking with it, bro. I'd be crushed if we lost all-star commenters in the shuffle. Ha. Emoticons are fun.
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He finally made a full-on believer of this writer with his stunningly solid performance at the Pepsi Center in Quebec on Saturday night Bernard Hopkins has to be elevated into the mix as an all time pound for pound great, off the clinic he put on against WBC light heavyweight champion Jean Pascal, on Pascal's home turf. The old professor of pugilism, who I knew was great but not to the extent that he is, was gunning to be the oldest man to win a legitimate title. He was sent to the canvas in the first and third rounds, but still emerged with a majority draw, and can easily make a case the he deserved to win. He turns 46 on January 15, and was the master of the ring against a talented man who'd never been in with such a specimen, and never will again, unless he gives Hopkins a rematch, as he should.





I'm starting to feel like Tom Hanks in Castaway. WILSON!!!!!