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the Roast:

"A big disappointment to me, as a Canadian were the Hilton brothers from Montreal, they did not have the talent of Curry but they sure could have done better if not screwing up so much outside the ring !"



Froggy, thank you for steering the car out of the ostrich jockey ditch and back on to who were you wrong about highway.

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the Roast:

Algieri gets an award? For what? Most backward summersaults during fights?

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Pazuzu:

Great news. Glad to hear Sirius is expanding its boxing coverage. Teddy is one of my favorite people - you'll be hard pressed to find anyone with more passion for boxing and life. Even when Teddy's wrong, his heart is in the right place. With the Commish and Gentleman Gerry, Teddy and Tim are in great company.

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Radam G:

And there are rarely second chances and make ups in our sport. More than less, it is unforgiving. Holla!

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The Commish:

Gerry Cooney & I think it's great that the suits at SiriusXM are realizing that boxing is growing and 2015 is already looking to be a banner year for the sport.

Welcome to the team, Teddy & Timmy.

Do us a favor, Teddy: Don't spit on the mics during one of your rants!

-Randy G.

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Skibbz:

With Chris getting fighter of the year I was surprised Tim didn't win Trainer and Conditioning/strength coach of the year. Would have been a fantastic night for Team Algieri.

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Radam G:

All of that shooting roids straight up da anal is the problem. How would "roids in da poop" Tony Peterson get out of this one. Hehehe!

Big bro Lamont used the "low T" alibi for getting out his steroids bind. So lil' bro Tony had to go to backup plan two of kidney stones. Holla!

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deepwater2:

Hmmm..... Heavy duty use of diuretics can cause kidney stones.



If the Dr suspects kidney stones he just has to order an abdominal cat scan and check out the urinary tract to confirm it. If no stones are seen then he might be avoiding the fight.



This situation brought to by tsAH.

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Froggy:

A big disappointment to me, as a Canadian were the Hilton brothers from Montreal, they did not have the talent of Curry but they sure could have done better if not screwing up so much outside the ring !

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Radam G:

Hehehehe! I get around. The best jockeys are ones who do the water buffalo races. Neither the jockeys or the water buffaloes are full of roids and PEDs. Holla!

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Froggy:

"That is true. Boxers were once guilty of that too. I'm lucky to know horse, camel and ostrich jockeys. The only jockeys that did not do that are the elephant ones. Holla!"

So you knew right away I didn't mean elephant jockeys ! To be honest I wasn't thinking of camel jockeys or ostrich jockeys either !

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Radam G:

Awesome, nice copy. And may Mr. ET rest in peace.

But I disagree that GOAT Ali couldn't stop him. The GOAT missed a lot of kayos by jiving and conniving. In the fight with Mr. ET, the GOAT was jiving and conniving with anger. And anger made him let up and talk syet when he should've been cracking and popping. And the fight, the referee would have been stopping.

I cannot recall exactly where I saw a video interview of the ref, but he said that every time he was on the verge of stopping the bout, "Clay would let up and start taunting Ernie with words I can't say and with some that I can say.

"I'm not in Clay's mind. I don't know if he intentionally carried Terrell, but Clay was demon-like to him.... And seemed to just wanna beat on Terrell. And Terrell took it." Holla!

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Radam G:

"I don't know how true it is, but I read jockeys used to ingest tapeworm eggs to lose weight !"

That is true. Boxers were once guilty of that too. I'm lucky to know horse, camel and ostrich jockeys. The only jockeys that did not do that are the elephant ones. Holla!

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Froggy:

"It is true about that Ex-lax. A lot of pugs, who didn't know how to lose weight with water and juices did that.

As "brainy three-year-old," I was schooling -- not fooling -- amateur pugs against that Ex-Lax nonsense. And I told them to holla at some prune juice with a few drops of lemon juice in it. And that they would get da $hˇ±$ like a horse and two elephants.

And so that they would not be imagining that were weak from defecating a kilo to to couple and a half, I told them to holla at some cucumber juice with a bit of black cherry juice in it and a piece of watermelom. That gives you a surge of mad energy. True stories. I $hĄ± you not. Hehehe. Holla!"


I don't know how true it is, but I read jockeys used to ingest tapeworm eggs to lose weight !

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mortcola:

My biggest WTF-was-I-thinking recently was David Price. 6'8", agile, pinpoint punching and apparently great power against his early-career showcases. Then we find out that a light tap from Tony Thompson is enough to separate him from time and space, and that great athleticism is only great when nothing much is happening in front of him.....wonder if we'll see him try again, but the signs are not promising.

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Radam G:

"Once some fighters lose... They never get quite their confidence all the way back. At least that's my impression. I even heard a local boxer say he was taking ex-lax to lose weight.... A very lazy solution for weight gain problems and the pesky late bloomer growth spurts. Some people continue to grow (not inflate) well into their late twenties. Whether or not the ex-lax rumors are true. Curry and his team didn't handle the weight gain right

Some fighters don't have a good strategy for moving up in weight. Some live in denial and fear of losing status and giving up the number one spot....IMHO.

Sad ending for the promising Curry."


It is true about that Ex-lax. A lot of pugs, who didn't know how to lose weight with water and juices did that.

As "brainy three-year-old," I was schooling -- not fooling -- amateur pugs against that Ex-Lax nonsense. And I told them to holla at some prune juice with a few drops of lemon juice in it. And that they would get da $hˇ±$ like a horse and two elephants.

And so that they would not be imagining that were weak from defecating a kilo to a couple and a half, I told them to holla at some cucumber juice with a bit of black cherry juice in it and a piece of watermelom. That gives you a surge of mad energy. True stories. I $hĄ± you not. Hehehe. Holla!

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mortcola:

Mine was Donald Curry as well. Briefly, my hero, the most perfect technical boxer, with power, I had seen to that point. He is a perfect example of what falls apart when you lose your mental edge. All the guys who beat him, except maybe Jacquot, were fine fighters. But none would have beaten down a Curry who had his head together. Woulda, what-if....that's all part of the formula. But briefly, he was the perfect fighter, lacking nothing, until we found out what was actually lacking.

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Radam G:

"Do you remember Robin Blake? One of MY worst calls ever."

I remember Robin Blake. He was a bad mofu. It was true that his grandfather died just before a bout. I don't remember which bout, but he was badly affected by that.

But I have doubts about Don Curry. I knew all four of the Curry brothers. And every time that they lost it was because one of their grandfathers had just died. I recall about five of them dying. And don't say no way.

On their mother's side, they had three gramps -- two steps and two biological ones. And on their fathers' sides, I would not know. The Currys had the same mother, but different fathers. Matter of fact, Donald's last name was actually Sample. It was a lot of "my gramps," his gramps, step gramps. Holla!

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Froggy:

"By all means I doubt Bronco can pull it off but stranger things have happened. I can tell you he is probably more sturdy than any of Wilders previous opponents. I say give him a shot at a contender and lets see what happens."

Why not ?

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deepwater2:

"OK thanks for that D2.



I could start off by saying that he needs to stay away from guys that can trace/rake a decent jab on him.



But then . . . it's easier and better to look at the positives.



Dude clearly wants to fight - no matter whether it's in a ring or not.



And . . you can't bottle that up (I am laughing as I write this).



You have to channel it.



Bronco Billy appears to have the experience, mentality and durability to get him past Butterbean level heavyweight boxing.



Rick Hatton . . . listen up please . . .how bout you feed Billy to Lucas Browne for Brownies first Las Vegas gig?



That will tell us how keen Billy (and Lucas) is.



I know one thing.



It won't go past 7 or 8 rounds.



Billy lokos like he would be good for boxing and also reality TV.



Dude takes protecting his family seriously.



But then who doesn't.



What's the consensus D2 (or anyone else)?



Is Bronco Billy going to get a credible version of the heavyweight title?"




By all means I doubt Bronco can pull it off but stranger things have happened. I can tell you he is probably more sturdy than any of Wilders previous opponents. I say give him a shot at a contender and lets see what happens.

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the Roast:

Do you remember Robin Blake? One of MY worst calls ever.

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brownsugar:

Lol...one of my worst calls ever.

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the Roast:

Terrell used to promote fights in Chicago twenty or so years back. I met him once, he was very nice. He had huge hands. We shook hands and mine disappeared. Rest in Peace Ernie.

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the Roast:

I think Ike had a good chance at becoming Champion. He had all the tools. Huge waste of talent.

I remember Bruseles from that Mayweather fight but not much else. I loved that Forum show. Seemed like every time I watched Mark Johnson was knocking somebody out.



Brown you were so high on Sillahk! Kovalev put him down hard. Haven't heard from him since...

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brownsugar:

Good stuff Oubobcat...

Personally I was lead astray by " The Black Russian ". Otherwise known as ....
Ismail Sillahk.

It was Sillahk, not Kovalev who was going to revolutionize the light heavyweight division.
It was Sillahk, the Siberian terror who was destined to transform a bland, mediocre division currently led by "Bad" Chad Dawson and closely followed by the aging Tag Team of Tarver and Glen Johnson back into the Limelight.

Sillahk was tall and rangy... He had the sublime foot work of a consumate technician that would have made ballet dancer extraordinare Borisnikov jealous. his jab was as crisp as unbuttered toast.
And his followup right travelled with the velocity and stopping power of a silent bullet.

But he was cursed with a chin as fragile as peanut brittle.

Alas ..
His staying power in the pro ranks didn't even last as long as the buzz you get from the drink which is called by his namesake.

A Ko loss by a former kick boxer on ESPN an a crushing loss to the Krusher on cable and he was done.

Why Lord????

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Gabrielito:

I love watching Ruiz fight and was happy for him as his weight came down with each appearance...until this year. His last two fights are not what fans want to see .

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oubobcat:

I'll throw a couple names out there.

One is Ike Ibeabuchi. I really thought he was going to become a dominant heavyweight champion. The Tua fight was something else and he completely destroyed a younger Chris Byrd in the late 90's. But the fight he had with Everton Davis on ESPN really showcased his talent. Ibeabuchi had at times blinding hand speed for a heavyweight and destructive power as well. But as we know he had demons and the demons got the best of him. He could have been great and there was a time back in the late 90's I thought he was going to revive the heavyweight division and be a must see attraction in this sport similar to Tyson.

And the other is one I use to watch back on the old Forum boxing series. His name was Henry Bruseles. Bruseles had natural gifts including power and very fast hands. When I saw him fight in the early stages of his career on this series, I thought he was can't miss and would be a star. He had a solid career and some decent wins on his resume. But never put it all together to be a champion and be the star I thought he would become. Some of you may remember too he fought Floyd Mayweather in 2005 and was dominated in that fight (I believe it was the fight prior to Gatti for Mayweather).

Here is a video of a young Bruseles on the old Forum boxing series I previously mentioned showing some of that eye popping raw talent he possessed in the early stages of his career

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-JycMu82DM

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brownsugar:

Once some fighters lose... They never get quite their confidence all the way back. At least that's my impression. I even heard a local boxer say he was taking ex-lax to lose weight.... A very lazy solution for weight gain problems and the pesky late bloomer growth spurts. Some people continue to grow (not inflate) well into their late twenties. Whether or not the ex-lax rumors are true. Curry and his team didn't handle the weight gain right

Some fighters don't have a good strategy for moving up in weight. Some live in denial and fear of losing status and giving up the number one spot....IMHO.

Sad ending for the promising Curry.

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the Roast:

Some quality names there RG.

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The Commish:

"I like Ruiz - the speed and the hard hitting. He didn't do well Saturday, despite winning, but he's been more impressive than not. Let's see how he does against better opposition. Is he too fat? I think "blubbery" is the word we're all looking for. But he wouldn't be the first heavy heavyweight to make a name for himself. Think of Two-Ton Tony Galento, for instance, who was as rough and tumble as they come."

I, too, like Ruiz. Like Tony Galento and Ron Stander, he's fun to watch. However, unlike them, he can really box, not just stand there and be a barroom brawler. However, realistically, he is going to have to get that blubbery arse in shape before we can seriously think of him getting in with, and beating, a solid top-10 heavyweight.

Ruiz has tried before, taking himself of of action around a year ago, saying he was going to physically change his appearance. Well, that didn't happen. He came back looking like the same 'ol Andy Ruiz.

I think he now realizes what he has to do to go from being a fringe contender to being a serious championship contender. Let's see if he does what he has to do.

When he next steps in the ring, if he looks like the Andy Ruiz we have become used to seeing, we'll know where his boxing future is at. If he looks much different, we'll still know where his boxing Future is.

Two different scenarios, two different paths.

Which one will Andy Ruiz choose?

-Randy G.

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