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The Commish:

Reports say the purse bid has been cancelled/postponed again. Haymon's fault? Don King's fault? We're digging around, trying to get the reason.



-Randy G.

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teaser:

yes having to endure the hell that was Duran that nite in Montreal gave Leonard the mettle to defeat Hearns yes it was a difficult fight but not like fighting a wolverine in a phone booth Leonard knew he could hurt Tommy something he couldn't do against Duran in 3 fights Ray Leonard fought the best and beat them all we need more of that

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SouthPawFlo:

I applaud Oscar for taking the Drivers seat and stepping up to make big fights, but in my opinion Canelo's Popularity and Skill level don't Match, Oscar has to be very careful about who he matches his cash cow with because he barely got by Trout and Lara....

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Radam G:

Mad salute to Breast Cancer Awarness. And defeating cancer. Holla!

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ArneK.:

Nice pieces on Dan Goosen by Thomas Hauser and David Avila.

I didn't know the man, but I never heard anyone say a bad word about him -- very unusual in an industry overrun with hard-boiled characters.

Bob Arum promoted some of Goosen's fighters and for a time Dan was a Top Rank executive. That relationship didn't last long. Arum can be abrasive and Dan Goosen wasn't the sort to take any guff, no matter how handsomely Arum was paying him.

The Goosen clan was an interesting bunch and Dan was clearly the patriarch, although he was only one of the siblings. For a time Joe Goosen was the most prominent trainer/cornerman in California. That was before Freddie Roach became so big. Another brother, Greg Goosen, was a catcher who had a cup of coffee with the NY Mets.

Anyone who goes into managing boxers can expect to someday have his heart ripped out. Dan Goosen promoted Michael Nunn beginning with Nunn's first pro fight. He brought Nunn's amateur trainer into the fold and treated the two of them like members of his family. The last I heard of Michael Nunn, he was serving 20-plus years for drug trafficking at a federal penitentiary in Texas. Nunn's sad saga had to hurt Dan immensely.

If memory serves, the actor Gene Hackman purchased a piece of Nunn. Hackman appeared with the Goosens at several of Nunn's pre-fight press conferences. There were other Hollywood players who took an interest in the Goosens' boxing stable. In a sense, it was like the old (Depression era) days when the Hollywood crowd turned up for the weekly fights at the cozy indoor venue called Hollywood Legion Stadium. It didn't take a mega-fight to rope in a famous Hollywood personality.

My condolences to all the Goosens.

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Radam G:

"Thank you Greyman, I am glad you enjoyed those posts and congratulations to everyone else. You have done another great job.

We're heading into the final few months of the year... Time for a quick boost.. Hey Radam "Give me the bottle... the one I mixed!""


Hehehehehehe! Watch that mixing water with water. There are some mixes that will give you mad energy. A little alkaline water mixed with some coconut water and water from a Mountain spring mixed with a few drops of lemon juice will have you leaping over bridges in small bound. Hahaha!

But start off with tiny, tiny bridges.

Watch it, though! Like always, these shots of mad, quick energy boost will also holla at your libido. D@mn libido always act up with the good stuff. Hehehe! You will have a stiff pipe ready and roaring to cause a gusher. Holla!

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Froggy:

"I think the Brawl in Montreal, even more so than the first Hearns fight, showed how tough Sugar Ray was and that he was not a media creation. As the late great Pete Axthelm wrote after the first Leonard Duran fight," Duran's attack often called to mind a Viet Cong offensive: he attacked from all angles, measuring off the ring territory as if it were his home turf and was almost fanatically eager to pay whatever price was necessary to win. Duran transformed the fight into a brutal test. Leonard rose to the occasion in a style that left him rightfully unbowed in defeat." ....Pete was a good writer."



You hit the nail on the head Brad ! I always thought that was one of Leonards greatest fights to fight Duran when Duran was motivated, in his prime and in shape, plus fight Durans fight and go the distance was one Leonards greatest accomplishments !

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Radam G:

C-Al is hard not to like. But he will be no match for Da Manny/3m. He is going to get knocked double fudge out in round five -- maybe earlier -- and that is no jive.



C-Al's Superman tough tude is going to get him destroyed in a mean way. Somebody tell the dude that bosking magic is a big Houdini tragic. He needs HIGH-HOPE passion, not obsession.



DANG! Dude is getting scary to me with this maddog OBSESSION.



OMFG! I hope that he doesn't roll up in Macau drooling at the mouth and snot dripping out his nose and his eyes are as red as blood, and his hair full of stinking sweat! Because we will then straight-up buckwheat shoot his arse.



Tell that man to -- in the old Filipino English words of my 114-year-old Tio Mamoy -- "calm da PUCK down, Kano!"



Trainer Tim Lane -- Lois Lane's kissing third cousin -- get your boy some buckwheat and blackberries -- that will chillax him. He is putting on more drama than old-skool lady rapper Lil' Kim. And I know me some Lil' Kim.



All HIGH HOPES for Team C-Al are getting quite dim. Dude's chances of not just winning, but lasting the distance IMHO, are very slim.



I'm bracing myself for the Commish avalanche retort. Hehehe! Holla!

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Brad:

I think the Brawl in Montreal, even more so than the first Hearns fight, showed how tough Sugar Ray was and that he was not a media creation. As the late great Pete Axthelm wrote after the first Leonard Duran fight," Duran's attack often called to mind a Viet Cong offensive: he attacked from all angles, measuring off the ring territory as if it were his home turf and was almost fanatically eager to pay whatever price was necessary to win. Duran transformed the fight into a brutal test. Leonard rose to the occasion in a style that left him rightfully unbowed in defeat." ....Pete was a good writer.

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Skibbz:

Thank you Greyman, I am glad you enjoyed those posts and congratulations to everyone else. You have done another great job.

We're heading into the final few months of the year... Time for a quick boost.. Hey Radam "Give me the bottle... the one I mixed!"

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brownsugar:

I saw it live Commish, I was consulted by the host (a personal friend of mine who bought the show and provided the drinks food and venue... ....who to bet on)...I thought Hearns would knock that perpetual smile of Leonard's face and show the world that a welterweight pansy like him didn't deserve to hold the belt.... I thought I was the nostrodamus of boxing in those days and convinced my friend to put $150.00 on Hearn's.

He never blamed me for losing his dough.
To this very day he says it was a conspiracy by the secret powers that be to waive the fight off early. To this day any discussion about the fight will touch off a 2 hour debate why he thought Hearns was cheated and why Leonard was given a gift.

Its clear that Hearns was done but my buddie still holds to the belief that a shady backroom deal cost Hearns his undefeated record.

That fight was high drama at its best...and Leonard earned my complete and total respect afterwards..... What tenacity...what resilience.....what a single minded assassin Leonard was..... with a killer instinct that was relentless as it gets

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Radam G:

I have nuthin' but mad luv for me some Sugar Ray Leonard. He is legit in and out of the boksing world. Such an honest and honorable guy. And that is something that you have to dig all the time.

I just hate that the Sugarman never did it up on the Big Screen. BUT! Hopefully he will be getting with it soon. I hope that he gets a really BIG part in the next "Rocky" movie.

In the next one, old former boxing Rocky is going to be training the late, great Apollo Creed's son. Holla!

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Radam G:

Congrats to all. And great job, thegreyman. You are too kind. We appreciate and salute cha! Holla!

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The Commish:

Super choices and super job to thegreyman.

Congrats to all.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

"Sounds like great times Commish, SRL really knew how to appeal to the boxing and non-boxing audience. He could have shown the "bad guys" of boxing today how to double their profit and appeal through positive "Public Relations",.... But a lot of boxers thought Leonard was a " Suck-up" and a "square".
He wasn't a suck-up, .... he was just very accessible.
And still is to this very day."


Many boxinginsiders originally thought SRL was more than a "suck-up." They looked at him as a media darling whose boyish smile got him very far with TV execs and advertisers. It was figured that, once he got smacked by a banger such as Thomas Hearns, that sweetheart aura would crumble. It took the match against Hearns on September 16, 1981, to prove the doubters wrong. From that moment on, Sugar Ray Leonard became a legend-in-progress.

Watch the youtube video of SRL-Hearns I when you have a chance. It's a classic. It'll show you just how great the Sugarman really was.

-Randy G.

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deepwater2:

It's good economics paying down that loan.



Anyone on here know who Chris is sparring in preparation for Pac? I have a funny feeling L.I. boxer, Tommy Rainone will be in the ring preparing Chris since he is a southpaw and close by. I think that is a big mistake because TR is a good boxer but he stays on the back foot too long, Pac gets right in there with a different speed.



I boxed Tommy years ago and was robbed in a close fight,I think. It was a learning experience for sure. I was pre matched with a top guy from Bk and I was prepared to box and use my height to create distance. I was a huge underdog and was ready to be on my toes and sharp with counter punches.



The top guy never showed and the trainer came back and said I was boxing a guy from Westbury but he was scrub and had so many losses I would just walk right through him. Well I threw my game plan out the window and tried walking TR down and loading up and was coming up short because the guy was a southpaw who was small and sneaky. I still think I won the bout but its my fault it was so close and I learned that day to never ever underestimate any boxer again no matter what. The cornerman was a nice guy but I told him he will never see me in the ring with him again, he got me overconfident and TR was crafty and a good fighter. I think he is still boxing pro and has a decent record of 20-3 or something like that.



Never ever underestimate another fighter.Period.

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brownsugar:

Congrats to the winners and moderator...great choices.

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brownsugar:

No doubt Algieri will set a very uncomfortable pace and attempt to frustrate Manny with movement while delivering a volley of scoring shots.

Paq's assignment will be to know when to zone in on the young intern at every opportunity and take some of the starch out of his legs.

It probably won't be pretty but it should be a tactical confrontation... Much like a marathon race where strategy and perseverence are key.

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The Commish:

Chris Algieri knows he is a underdog against Manny Pacquiao. A huge underdog. An overwhelming underdog. He doesn't care. He doesn't believe what oddsmakers say. He knows that the favorites don't always win. He knows that underdogs don't always lose. It happens in every sport. Boxing is no exception.

Buster Douglas over Mike Tyson. Cassius Clay over Sonny Liston. Those are two of boxing's biggest upsets. Or are they. Clay, later to become Muhammad Ali, developed into nothing less than one of the greatest heavyweights ever, so was his victory over Liston really an upset?

Mike Tyson was ill-prepared for his bout against Douglas. Douglas was well-prepared. Tyson had management problems. Contract problems. Love problems. Douglas had no problems. Was his victory over Tyson really an upset?

As far as we know, Manny Pacquiao is going into his fight against Chris Algieri with no problems. On November 22, Chris Algieri will be facing a fit and mentally ready Manny Pacquiao. That's the way Algieri wants it. He believes in himself, no what some Las Vegas oddsmakers set the "line" at.

Chris Algieri is still almost eight weeks away from the biggest night of his boxing life.

He'll be ready for Pascquiao.

Will Pacquiao be ready for Algieri?

-Randy G.

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brownsugar:

"Sugar Ray influenced so many of you young guys--and many of us older ones, as well. I was fortunate to have been the Associate Editor and later the Editor-in-Chief of The Ring whenSRL was in his prime.

Next week's "Commissioner's Corner" will be a dream match, in which one of the fighters will be SRL.

-Randy G."


Sounds like great times Commish, SRL really knew how to appeal to the boxing and non-boxing audience. He could have shown the "bad guys" of boxing today how to double their profit and appeal through positive "Public Relations",.... But a lot of boxers thought Leonard was a " Suck-up" and a "square".
He wasn't a suck-up, .... he was just very accessible.
And still is to this very day.

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The Commish:

Woops! My wife just reminded me that I we have a show on Broadway to take in later in NYC. Guess I have to DVR the ESPN show later.

I'll enjoy it whether I am watching at 10:00 pm, midnight or at 5:00a.m.

The rest of you, enjoy it live!

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

"In my youth in the late-1980s I used to VCR a through-the-night UK sports show that showed a Felt Forum fight every week and gave me my introduction to Ed Derian. I don't think it's nostalgia, I genuinely loved his announcing and I loved this tribute even more. Thank you Commish."

I am so thrilled my memory of Derian touched a lot of you.

He was the kind of guy who used to speak with every fan who came up to him after the show was over.

I wish life had a DVR button I could push so I could take that drive down to Philly and spend the day with him.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

"Boxing during the week is great. I miss Tuesday night fights.

N'dam out boxed Quillin in such a display that I had him winning or a draw despite all the knockdowns he suffered."



Ahh, those "Tuesday Night Fights." Loved 'em and loved being a part of them. Remember, Sean O'Grady replaced me as Al Albert's sidekick when I had to leave my broadcast post in 1988 when I became Chairman of the New York State Athletic Commission.

For sure, brownsugar, Curtis Stevens will show a lot more zip than he gave to me, The Shadow and Gerry Cooney last week on SiriusXM. Whew, if he fights like that against N'Jikam, he's going to KTFO'd for sure.

However, I don't expect a bad performance or off-night from Stevens. He had a superb training camp, and also worked with Danny Jacobs, helping him prepare for his recent bout on Showtime.

So, Stevens is ready. He's a world-class fighter.

He's just not a world-class interview.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Sugar Ray influenced so many of you young guys--and many of us older ones, as well. I was fortunate to have been the Associate Editor and later the Editor-in-Chief of The Ring whenSRL was in his prime.

Next week's "Commissioner's Corner" will be a dream match, in which one of the fighters will be SRL.

-Randy G.

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brownsugar:

Leonard is probably the best fighter I've ever seen( I'm sure better ones will come or may already be here).. It will be a pleasure to watch the show just to hear him commentate.
It was Leonard who inspired me to find out that the age of 25 is too late to begin boxing ( and be very good at it)

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brownsugar:

Deep I wished N'Dam had won that fight too....earlier today on an article on BS he said he hadn't fully recovered from oral surgery in his fight with Quillin......This fight could go several different ways...a shut out for N'Dam, it could turn into a brawl, or a KO for Stevens. NDam got his last 3 wins "off camera" so its hard to tell what he looks like but we do know Stevens can still score a KO late in the fight.

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deepwater2:

Boxing during the week is great. I miss Tuesday night fights.

N'dam out boxed Quillin in such a display that I had him winning or a draw despite all the knockdowns he suffered.

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brownsugar:

Yeah... I can surely use a couple of those...lol..
Hopefully Curtis will exhibit more intensity tonight than he did with Shadow and the Commish on the Sirus XM Talk Show.........And hopefully N'Dam is not in track- star mode.
I expect a good quality fight nonetheless.

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amayseng:

Good reminder, yes we get fights on Wednesday night, half way through the work week with a solid card and maybe a few Coronas will def help my work week.

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amayseng:

The more you hear the more you learn what a class act and good guy Dan was.

Another sad passing that will hurt the sport we so love.

Thanks for the article and info, much appreciated.

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