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brownsugar:

"This is a fight I am very much looking forward to watching. It really could go either way and that's what makes it so interesting. And as we saw with Stevens last fight, he possesses that eraser so even if the fight is not going his way could quickly change things in an instant.

Stevens can be out boxed and out hustled. Taureno Johnson did that to him his last time out and came within seconds of beating him. Jesse Brinkley did that to Stevens with ease some years ago. If Stevens doesn't knock his opponent out, its tough for him to win fighting the way he does. And that is always looking for the knockout and unable to avoid being hit if his opponent lets their hands go.

N'Dam was dropped six times by Quillin yet still went the distance. In the rounds he wasn't dropped had some success. We know he has heart but how about that chin. Stevens hits much harder than Quillin so if N'Dam gets hit clean who knows how well he'll be able to take Stevens punch.

If N'Dam can handle Stevens punch or avoid getting tagged flush, he can win and win going away on the cards. However, that's much easier said than done. Stevens will be dangerous from the moment the opening bell rings until the final bell to end the fight. He could be dominated and then end things in an instant. Its a very interesting fight and the winner is in line to face the IBF Champion sometime next year."


These are hard to predict and fun to watch... I'm still on on overtime. Will have to watch it later. Looking forward to seeing who the winner is...like you said its a pickem fight.

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Radam G:

These alphabet-sanctioning clowns and cheats are making a desperate move to get keep the AIBA from closing them down and making their crook-you-long-time arses drown.

Later for the high-fee sanctioning broke-arse-crooked clowns. Biting off Mr. T, I don't pity da fools. Holla!

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Radam G:

I'm sure that I will be right again in the end.

TsAH ain't niffin' but a millenium Don King.

The same old sh song they sing -- covert deception, serial theft, cult making and Stockholm Syndromising thirsty-and-hungry brotherhood pugs wanting to be in a clique of fakes pretending that they are all -- each and everyone of them -- getting BIG, BIG purses when they are getting broken promises and peanuts in BIG, BIG 99 shopping bags
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[I know that last sentence is one long-arse sentence, but that it how tsAH and Da Don K git with their sneaky, sleazy, shady ways. Holla!

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oubobcat:

Things are about to get very interesting. Will Canelo actually go for the May and September dates taken in the past by Mayweather? Or if push comes to shove, will they back away from that demand?

I really don't know how to read this right now from Oscar and Canelo.

I think it depends on the opponent to be honest. If Cotto, then they push that fight back to June to hold it at Madison Square Garden. No way they go head to head with Mayweather.

But say its not Cotto, things could get interesting. I for one think HBO is still very upset about how Showtime decided to put Canelo on the same September date in the same city as the scheduled HBO PPV for Martinez-Chavez. Remember this initially was to be competing PPV's but then Showtime moved Canelo to regular Showtime after Victor Ortiz was upset by Josesito Lopez. If the Canelo-Cotto fight does not happen, I see HBO signing off on another Joshua Clottey like opponent and put the fight on regular HBO to compete directly with Mayweather (Oscar and Canelo have major pull on this as well).

Things are about to get very interesting in this sport outside the ring.

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oubobcat:

This is an excellent fight for Dirrell at this stage of his career. Brinson is no push over, has good skills and is very athletic. And has tremendous heart and determination. He will come to win. He has exposed prospects in the past but lost when he has stepped up to the "B" level fighters.

Unlike Dirrell's last opponent, Brinson will fight back. Dirrell's skills, at least the old Dirrell, should be too much for Brinson. But if Dirrell has lost it a little, well Brinson could give him a good test. I don't think Brinson wins either way (well you never know in this sport) but its a good barometer fight for Dirrell. If he dominates and gets Brinson out of there in impressive fashion, I would say he is back and ready for bigger things immediately. If he struggles in this fight though, he may not be the same and may be a sign that he can't compete at a high level anymore.

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oubobcat:

I think Oscar was fine with this going to purse bid but Haymon is really pushing him to make a deal. Haymon does not want to risk another outside bid from Roc Nation and getting backed into a corner again. My guess would be that Oscar (after massive pressure form Haymon) and King went to the WBC asking for an extension because they are close. Just a guess...

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oubobcat:

This is a fight I am very much looking forward to watching. It really could go either way and that's what makes it so interesting. And as we saw with Stevens last fight, he possesses that eraser so even if the fight is not going his way could quickly change things in an instant.

Stevens can be out boxed and out hustled. Taureno Johnson did that to him his last time out and came within seconds of beating him. Jesse Brinkley did that to Stevens with ease some years ago. If Stevens doesn't knock his opponent out, its tough for him to win fighting the way he does. And that is always looking for the knockout and unable to avoid being hit if his opponent lets their hands go.

N'Dam was dropped six times by Quillin yet still went the distance. In the rounds he wasn't dropped had some success. We know he has heart but how about that chin. Stevens hits much harder than Quillin so if N'Dam gets hit clean who knows how well he'll be able to take Stevens punch.

If N'Dam can handle Stevens punch or avoid getting tagged flush, he can win and win going away on the cards. However, that's much easier said than done. Stevens will be dangerous from the moment the opening bell rings until the final bell to end the fight. He could be dominated and then end things in an instant. Its a very interesting fight and the winner is in line to face the IBF Champion sometime next year.

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Radam G:

Wow! OMFG! Whadup wif da Yanky Panky -- I mean Hanky Panky -- with purse bid.

I personally see a power struggle going between tsAH, and the old guard of tricking & dkng, Da Don King. He ain't trying to let some shadow spook him outta pug crooking and robbing.

And yes indeed! They both ain't feeling how J-Zay's Roc Nation is dropping legit moolah on bids. With the actuality of the reality, tsAH and Da Don King ain't trying to holla at who they consider "snotty-nosed kids."

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oubobcat:

Thanks thegreyman and congrats to all the winners

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Radam G:

"There's over a month to go before Algieri's victory party. I will remain calm for a little longer.

-Randy G."




WOW! OMFG! The Commish pulled a "theatre of the unexpected" on me. I thought that he was going to blitzkrieg me with a thousand-and-one HIGH-HOPE words.



All well! His avalanching retort won't be staying silent until November 22 -- U.S. mainland time. Holla!

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The Commish:

There's over a month to go before Algieri's victory party. I will remain calm for a little longer.

-Randy G.

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deepwater2:

"Reports say the purse bid has been cancelled/postponed again. Haymon's fault? Don King's fault? We're digging around, trying to get the reason.



-Randy G."




Hmmmm



tsAH's other fighter ,Danny Garcia's purse bidded got postponed again also.10 day extension. Does Danny have a newborn to blame before tsAH makes him dump his belt and vacate?



Last two boxers with tsAH that went to purse bid didn't work out too well. Sean Porter and Gary Russell Jr.



Roc Nation might be bidding on the bout and taking it of King's and GBP grip. Can one of tsAH's fighters actually give him orders or do they only take directions?



When Hopkins threw down the PR flag in PR, Don King gave him the best advice. King said,RUN!!!!!!!!

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The Commish:

Reports say the purse bid has been cancelled/postponed again. Haymon's fault? Don King's fault? We're digging around, trying to get the reason.



-Randy G.

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teaser:

yes having to endure the hell that was Duran that nite in Montreal gave Leonard the mettle to defeat Hearns yes it was a difficult fight but not like fighting a wolverine in a phone booth Leonard knew he could hurt Tommy something he couldn't do against Duran in 3 fights Ray Leonard fought the best and beat them all we need more of that

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SouthPawFlo:

I applaud Oscar for taking the Drivers seat and stepping up to make big fights, but in my opinion Canelo's Popularity and Skill level don't Match, Oscar has to be very careful about who he matches his cash cow with because he barely got by Trout and Lara....

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Radam G:

Mad salute to Breast Cancer Awarness. And defeating cancer. Holla!

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ArneK.:

Nice pieces on Dan Goosen by Thomas Hauser and David Avila.

I didn't know the man, but I never heard anyone say a bad word about him -- very unusual in an industry overrun with hard-boiled characters.

Bob Arum promoted some of Goosen's fighters and for a time Dan was a Top Rank executive. That relationship didn't last long. Arum can be abrasive and Dan Goosen wasn't the sort to take any guff, no matter how handsomely Arum was paying him.

The Goosen clan was an interesting bunch and Dan was clearly the patriarch, although he was only one of the siblings. For a time Joe Goosen was the most prominent trainer/cornerman in California. That was before Freddie Roach became so big. Another brother, Greg Goosen, was a catcher who had a cup of coffee with the NY Mets.

Anyone who goes into managing boxers can expect to someday have his heart ripped out. Dan Goosen promoted Michael Nunn beginning with Nunn's first pro fight. He brought Nunn's amateur trainer into the fold and treated the two of them like members of his family. The last I heard of Michael Nunn, he was serving 20-plus years for drug trafficking at a federal penitentiary in Texas. Nunn's sad saga had to hurt Dan immensely.

If memory serves, the actor Gene Hackman purchased a piece of Nunn. Hackman appeared with the Goosens at several of Nunn's pre-fight press conferences. There were other Hollywood players who took an interest in the Goosens' boxing stable. In a sense, it was like the old (Depression era) days when the Hollywood crowd turned up for the weekly fights at the cozy indoor venue called Hollywood Legion Stadium. It didn't take a mega-fight to rope in a famous Hollywood personality.

My condolences to all the Goosens.

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Radam G:

"Thank you Greyman, I am glad you enjoyed those posts and congratulations to everyone else. You have done another great job.

We're heading into the final few months of the year... Time for a quick boost.. Hey Radam "Give me the bottle... the one I mixed!""


Hehehehehehe! Watch that mixing water with water. There are some mixes that will give you mad energy. A little alkaline water mixed with some coconut water and water from a Mountain spring mixed with a few drops of lemon juice will have you leaping over bridges in small bound. Hahaha!

But start off with tiny, tiny bridges.

Watch it, though! Like always, these shots of mad, quick energy boost will also holla at your libido. D@mn libido always act up with the good stuff. Hehehe! You will have a stiff pipe ready and roaring to cause a gusher. Holla!

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Froggy:

"I think the Brawl in Montreal, even more so than the first Hearns fight, showed how tough Sugar Ray was and that he was not a media creation. As the late great Pete Axthelm wrote after the first Leonard Duran fight," Duran's attack often called to mind a Viet Cong offensive: he attacked from all angles, measuring off the ring territory as if it were his home turf and was almost fanatically eager to pay whatever price was necessary to win. Duran transformed the fight into a brutal test. Leonard rose to the occasion in a style that left him rightfully unbowed in defeat." ....Pete was a good writer."



You hit the nail on the head Brad ! I always thought that was one of Leonards greatest fights to fight Duran when Duran was motivated, in his prime and in shape, plus fight Durans fight and go the distance was one Leonards greatest accomplishments !

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Radam G:

C-Al is hard not to like. But he will be no match for Da Manny/3m. He is going to get knocked double fudge out in round five -- maybe earlier -- and that is no jive.



C-Al's Superman tough tude is going to get him destroyed in a mean way. Somebody tell the dude that bosking magic is a big Houdini tragic. He needs HIGH-HOPE passion, not obsession.



DANG! Dude is getting scary to me with this maddog OBSESSION.



OMFG! I hope that he doesn't roll up in Macau drooling at the mouth and snot dripping out his nose and his eyes are as red as blood, and his hair full of stinking sweat! Because we will then straight-up buckwheat shoot his arse.



Tell that man to -- in the old Filipino English words of my 114-year-old Tio Mamoy -- "calm da PUCK down, Kano!"



Trainer Tim Lane -- Lois Lane's kissing third cousin -- get your boy some buckwheat and blackberries -- that will chillax him. He is putting on more drama than old-skool lady rapper Lil' Kim. And I know me some Lil' Kim.



All HIGH HOPES for Team C-Al are getting quite dim. Dude's chances of not just winning, but lasting the distance IMHO, are very slim.



I'm bracing myself for the Commish avalanche retort. Hehehe! Holla!

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Brad:

I think the Brawl in Montreal, even more so than the first Hearns fight, showed how tough Sugar Ray was and that he was not a media creation. As the late great Pete Axthelm wrote after the first Leonard Duran fight," Duran's attack often called to mind a Viet Cong offensive: he attacked from all angles, measuring off the ring territory as if it were his home turf and was almost fanatically eager to pay whatever price was necessary to win. Duran transformed the fight into a brutal test. Leonard rose to the occasion in a style that left him rightfully unbowed in defeat." ....Pete was a good writer.

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Skibbz:

Thank you Greyman, I am glad you enjoyed those posts and congratulations to everyone else. You have done another great job.

We're heading into the final few months of the year... Time for a quick boost.. Hey Radam "Give me the bottle... the one I mixed!"

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brownsugar:

I saw it live Commish, I was consulted by the host (a personal friend of mine who bought the show and provided the drinks food and venue... ....who to bet on)...I thought Hearns would knock that perpetual smile of Leonard's face and show the world that a welterweight pansy like him didn't deserve to hold the belt.... I thought I was the nostrodamus of boxing in those days and convinced my friend to put $150.00 on Hearn's.

He never blamed me for losing his dough.
To this very day he says it was a conspiracy by the secret powers that be to waive the fight off early. To this day any discussion about the fight will touch off a 2 hour debate why he thought Hearns was cheated and why Leonard was given a gift.

Its clear that Hearns was done but my buddie still holds to the belief that a shady backroom deal cost Hearns his undefeated record.

That fight was high drama at its best...and Leonard earned my complete and total respect afterwards..... What tenacity...what resilience.....what a single minded assassin Leonard was..... with a killer instinct that was relentless as it gets

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Radam G:

I have nuthin' but mad luv for me some Sugar Ray Leonard. He is legit in and out of the boksing world. Such an honest and honorable guy. And that is something that you have to dig all the time.

I just hate that the Sugarman never did it up on the Big Screen. BUT! Hopefully he will be getting with it soon. I hope that he gets a really BIG part in the next "Rocky" movie.

In the next one, old former boxing Rocky is going to be training the late, great Apollo Creed's son. Holla!

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Radam G:

Congrats to all. And great job, thegreyman. You are too kind. We appreciate and salute cha! Holla!

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The Commish:

Super choices and super job to thegreyman.

Congrats to all.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

"Sounds like great times Commish, SRL really knew how to appeal to the boxing and non-boxing audience. He could have shown the "bad guys" of boxing today how to double their profit and appeal through positive "Public Relations",.... But a lot of boxers thought Leonard was a " Suck-up" and a "square".
He wasn't a suck-up, .... he was just very accessible.
And still is to this very day."


Many boxinginsiders originally thought SRL was more than a "suck-up." They looked at him as a media darling whose boyish smile got him very far with TV execs and advertisers. It was figured that, once he got smacked by a banger such as Thomas Hearns, that sweetheart aura would crumble. It took the match against Hearns on September 16, 1981, to prove the doubters wrong. From that moment on, Sugar Ray Leonard became a legend-in-progress.

Watch the youtube video of SRL-Hearns I when you have a chance. It's a classic. It'll show you just how great the Sugarman really was.

-Randy G.

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deepwater2:

It's good economics paying down that loan.



Anyone on here know who Chris is sparring in preparation for Pac? I have a funny feeling L.I. boxer, Tommy Rainone will be in the ring preparing Chris since he is a southpaw and close by. I think that is a big mistake because TR is a good boxer but he stays on the back foot too long, Pac gets right in there with a different speed.



I boxed Tommy years ago and was robbed in a close fight,I think. It was a learning experience for sure. I was pre matched with a top guy from Bk and I was prepared to box and use my height to create distance. I was a huge underdog and was ready to be on my toes and sharp with counter punches.



The top guy never showed and the trainer came back and said I was boxing a guy from Westbury but he was scrub and had so many losses I would just walk right through him. Well I threw my game plan out the window and tried walking TR down and loading up and was coming up short because the guy was a southpaw who was small and sneaky. I still think I won the bout but its my fault it was so close and I learned that day to never ever underestimate any boxer again no matter what. The cornerman was a nice guy but I told him he will never see me in the ring with him again, he got me overconfident and TR was crafty and a good fighter. I think he is still boxing pro and has a decent record of 20-3 or something like that.



Never ever underestimate another fighter.Period.

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brownsugar:

Congrats to the winners and moderator...great choices.

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brownsugar:

No doubt Algieri will set a very uncomfortable pace and attempt to frustrate Manny with movement while delivering a volley of scoring shots.

Paq's assignment will be to know when to zone in on the young intern at every opportunity and take some of the starch out of his legs.

It probably won't be pretty but it should be a tactical confrontation... Much like a marathon race where strategy and perseverence are key.

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