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The Shadow:

Lol look at EM instigatin' and agitatin'!



I see it, too, though. It is what it is.



Whatever was in that MannyPak he would always talk about, it worked.



Then again, the boxing workouts haven't really evolved at all, which is unparalleled.



Maybe his regimen is that damn good. Some scribe should reach out to him, try it and give it a review...

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the Roast:

"Bazooka" Limon, Wilbert "the Vampire" Johnson, "SchoolBoy" Bobby Chacon of the top of my 80's lovin head.

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The Shadow:

Randy, did Mike really say that?? When did he say it? I'm not shocked because that sounds like something Cus would tell him, just like the Foreman situation.



Larry was a nice, crafty, cagey, wiley, cerebral in-ring operator with some awesome defense and some sneaky, freaky-deaky inside offense.



A lot of Floyd's little veteran tricks on the inside come from Larry Holmes.



Watching closely, I personally thought he beat Evander Holyfoeld rather handily as an old man.



That brings forth a question I've been pondering...how come the fighters that came up during the '70s and before seemed to have such sophisticated skill sets?



I mean, a guy like Jimmy Young would rule heavyweight today.



Even a guy who was considered "skill-less" had so many veteran moves, traps, and what have you that he TO THIS DAY can beat his professional fighting son. (Archie Moore taught him well.)



Why is that?

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The Shadow:

My favorite nicknames tend to be my own nicknames for fighters lol.



Besides those, there are some awesome ones, too many to mention.



So I'm gonna name some of the worst I know.



"Twinkle Fingers" Joey Hernandez. MENACING!



Cornflake. (Corny)



Leila "She Be Stingin'." Sad attempt at being clever and cute.



Erislandy "The American Dream" Lara is just pathetic. DeCubas or whoever is trying way too hard.



The Quiet Man John Ruiz. Yeah, that puts fear in the hearts of men!



Bernard "The Terror" Hopkins. That nickname still cracks me up for some reason.



The Problem is a cool name.



Dr. Steelhammer is pretty freakin awesome.



I gotta say, I love the "Liva Killa!" lol that gets me chuckling.



Imagine being in the other corner when you're already nervous and self doubt is creeping in and the ring announcer yells "the LIVAA KILLAAAAAA...!"



They might crap their pants.

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The Shadow:

Super, super solid content today, EM & Co.



From this to Duva to Thurman. Nice reporting touch to get a reaction from Malignaggi -- this is what separates the pros from the "nos."



I've said it before, pound for pound, TSS has some of the most well-rounded analysis and best coverage, from frivolous rumors to fighter analysis to true, investigative, in-depth coverage from Hauser all the way down to the more academic breakdowns -- clad in pendulum graphics and western themes -- for the those sophisticated fight pundits that inhabit this site in relatively large numbers.



EM's lack of pomposity and that "know-it-all" attitude, that has become trademark for many boxing personalities, is very refreshing also.



Get Eric Raskin out the woodworks and I'll be doing cartwheels.



I like it, well done.

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The Shadow:

"18yrs & better than ever right now, when everybody from his generation has either retired, died, or is a shell of themselves he's still at the top of the game....


People underestimate how smart the man is in the ring, he pretty much enters every fight as the older man, the smaller man, or the one with the least punching power, and the most boxing miles on the odometer but his Conditioning & Ring IQ picks up where his physical gifts don't..."


Agreed, though I don't think his physical gifts have eroded much, if at all. He's very genetically gifted and will probably be fast into his fifties.

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The Good Doctor:

"During my USA Network "Tuesday Night at the Fights" days, there was a light heavyweight out of the Florida area by the name of Guy Sonnenberg. In his high school years, he was known as the school bully. He especially cherished whupping up on the druggies, the losers, the weirdos and even the nerds. He became known as "The Freak Beater." It was a name which followed him into the ring, but a name he detested, as he said he had changed his demeanor by the time he turned pro. Although he tried to shake the nickname, he was forever known as "The Freak Beater."

Another Floridian fighter at that time was Harvey Hester. He was known as "Hester the Molester." He had to drop the nickname when he was accused of doing exactly that to a woman.

Two outstanding cutmen were the recipients of nicknames nicknames I made up for them. One was Ralph Citro. The other was Eddie Aliano. I nicknamed Ralph, "Close the Cut Citro," while Aliano I nicknamed "The Clot." While announcing fights in the '80's, the NBC broadcast team of Marv Albert and Dr. Ferdie Pacheco used to regularly refer to him when his handiwork was being shown on camera as "Eddie 'The Clot' Aliano."

I can't think of perennial loser of the 1980's, Bruce Strauss, as anything but "Mouse Strauss."

One nickname I made up in 2013 is beginning to catch on. I dropped it on red-hot U.S. Olympic light heavyweight Marcus Browne, who is currently sporting a 10 record and looking like a given to win at least one world title belt in 2015. After watching Browne dispatch yet another opponent with a vicious body shot, I began calling him "The Liver Killer." I may change that spelling to "The Liva' Killa'," but, either way, you get the picture.

Then there's heavyweight king Wladimir Klitschko. Since his last (non) fight, where he initiated 171 clinches, I took to calling him "Klinchko." I've noticed that most of my listeners now call him "Klinchko" whenever they call.

-Randy G."



Commish, maybe I missed it but when and where is your show on?

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The Commish:

During my USA Network "Tuesday Night at the Fights" days, there was a light heavyweight out of the Florida area by the name of Guy Sonnenberg. In his high school years, he was known as the school bully. He especially cherished whupping up on the druggies, the losers, the weirdos and even the nerds. He became known as "The Freak Beater." It was a name which followed him into the ring, but a name he detested, as he said he had changed his demeanor by the time he turned pro. Although he tried to shake the nickname, he was forever known as "The Freak Beater."

Another Floridian fighter at that time was Harvey Hester. He was known as "Hester the Molester." He had to drop the nickname when he was accused of doing exactly that to a woman.

Two outstanding cutmen were the recipients of nicknames nicknames I made up for them. One was Ralph Citro. The other was Eddie Aliano. I nicknamed Ralph, "Close the Cut Citro," while Aliano I nicknamed "The Clot." While announcing fights in the '80's, the NBC broadcast team of Marv Albert and Dr. Ferdie Pacheco used to regularly refer to him when his handiwork was being shown on camera as "Eddie 'The Clot' Aliano."

I can't think of perennial loser of the 1980's, Bruce Strauss, as anything but "Mouse Strauss."

One nickname I made up in 2013 is beginning to catch on. I dropped it on red-hot U.S. Olympic light heavyweight Marcus Browne, who is currently sporting a 10 record and looking like a given to win at least one world title belt in 2015. After watching Browne dispatch yet another opponent with a vicious body shot, I began calling him "The Liver Killer." I may change that spelling to "The Liva' Killa'," but, either way, you get the picture.

Then there's heavyweight king Wladimir Klitschko. Since his last (non) fight, where he initiated 171 clinches, I took to calling him "Klinchko." I've noticed that most of my listeners now call him "Klinchko" whenever they call.

-Randy G.

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The Good Doctor:

Mike McCallum-The Bodysnatcher

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SouthPawFlo:

18yrs & better than ever right now, when everybody from his generation has either retired, died, or is a shell of themselves he's still at the top of the game....





People underestimate how smart the man is in the ring, he pretty much enters every fight as the older man, the smaller man, or the one with the least punching power, and the most boxing miles on the odometer but his Conditioning & Ring IQ picks up where his physical gifts don't...

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deepwater2:

Switch the 1 and 2 and you have a deal.

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deepwater2:

Bob F is one of the all time greats. A mw champ, Light heavy champ and heavy champ. I have him right behind two of my favorites Mickey Walker and Harry Greb. These lil guys were knocking down heavyweights!

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ArneK.:

If you're giving me plus-190, then I'll take the field; I think there's value there. Dino and the Commish have inspired me to concoct another list: The Top 10 greatest cruiserweights of all time before the division was invented. For sure, Bob Fitzsimmons will be on it.

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deepwater2:

Kathy Duva speaking the truth. Boxing will be here long after Floyd and Manny are gone and hopefully we will be on this website talking about the new crop. By the way didn't Mayweather retire for a few years and no one really cared? Cheers to the new guys coming up, can't wait for the heavyweight scene to open up. Floyd better stop saying he won't do business with a promoter and fight already or just move and get out of the way because time is priceless.

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The Shadow:

"RICHARD SCHAEFER, CEO GOLDEN BOY PROMOTIONS

"Floyd Mayweather did it again. He picked the most dangerous opponent he could have.



Am I in crazy town???

most dangerous? Pac, GGG, SM, Pwill, margarito, prime cotto, prime shane, Vernon,





WOW are they blowing smoke up everyone's ***





And why the hell is J'leon talking? what has he ever done? He is not worthy of a quote.





this promotion is looking desperate."




Lol that was funny, no he's not worthy of quotes.



To be fair, none of those guys were available. GGG is exclusive to HBO and so is Sergio Martinez. GGG has bigger fish to fry, anyway, literally speaking.



I actually remember when Williams was in a position to inch closer to that shot but he messed around and got beat by Carlos Quintana. By the time he had avenged that loss, the ship had sailed. Floyd was on to PPV.



Like Lou DiBella says, sometimes guys just don't intersect. Maidana was the most dangerous of the ones who were available in his weight class.



Floyd is just kinda too polished for the rest of those dudes.



Interesting with Vernon, was there talk of them fighting at some point? Maybe I'm wrong but I remember Floyd fighting at lightweight during the time Vernon was beating Shane and getting beat up by Mayorga.



Would've been an interesting fight at 147!

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deepwater2:

"This card looks better than the PPV card that follows it the next weekend.



Action and competitive wise that is.





I mean really, Broner vs Molina???"




I agree for the most part. Collazo vs khan might be the most competitive.Lets check the bookies.

Thurman 16-1 fav.

Lucas 15-1 fav.

jeez

Mayweather 12-1 fav

Boner 30-1 fav.

Khan 3-1 fav.

The moral of the story is all these fights are non competitive except the Khan even though 3-1 isnt even.

At least with Thurman and Lucas they will probably put their opponents unconscious.

Showtime boxing, the home of house fighters having an advantage.

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amayseng:

RICHARD SCHAEFER, CEO GOLDEN BOY PROMOTIONS
"Floyd Mayweather did it again. He picked the most dangerous opponent he could have.

Am I in crazy town???
most dangerous? Pac, GGG, SM, Pwill, margarito, prime cotto, prime shane, Vernon,


WOW are they blowing smoke up everyone's ***


And why the hell is J'leon talking? what has he ever done? He is not worthy of a quote.


this promotion is looking desperate.

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amayseng:

This card looks better than the PPV card that follows it the next weekend.

Action and competitive wise that is.


I mean really, Broner vs Molina???

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amayseng:

"C'mon Commissioner you reckon this is competitive??? At least you envision no way for Maidana to do the full job because I don't either, I don't think anyone truly does.

He's going to get disheartened when he see's Floyd is no Broner. Floyd will attack early with fast, crisp shots from different angles and ranges. When Maidana, as he has been taught in prep, fires one or two in retaliation they'll catch the wind and nothing else. Repeat this over the course of 8 rounds and you'll have a tired slugger, with a supreme athlete now looking to pick some shots and drop him. A Floyd KO is very plausible with Maidana disheartened from not even finding the door to put his foot in.



On another note, Floyd has recently been saying he feels his recognition will come after he leaves the sport. I don't fail to recognise his incredible achievements, but I fail to acknowledge his greatness as a fighter if he does not make the best fights out there. Fighters fight to be called the best ever, and the best have to fight eachother..


@Roast I think one reason why people praise Hopkins and not Mayweather for that style is because of the difference in attitude outside of the ring. Floyd does not portray the most likeable personality."


People like and respect Hopkins because he has fought the best challenges out there where Floyd has ducked Pac, SM, a prime Cotto, Margarito, Mosley and a prime odlh

hopkins is fighting young champions at an old age and even a prime age fought Trinidad and a prime ODLH,
Roy jones among many many others.

plus Floyd is a prick and has no personality

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oubobcat:

"While it's true that $$$May has not fought anybody with Maidana's style, the only guy Maidana has fought who remotely resembles $$$May in style is $$$May-wannabe, Adrien Broner. Maidana will quickly find out that his pressure tactics, while they worked on Broner, will be virtually useless against $$$May.

The fight will be competitive and interesting. But as I sit here writing this 10 days before the opening bell, I cannot envision Maidana pulling out a victory. Not by KO, not by TKO, not by decision.

-Randy G."


I do find this fight interesting. Interesting in that Maidana has real power and is an improved overall boxer since joining up with Robert Garcia. What if Maidana can find a way, particularly early, to land a big shot and hurt Mayweather. How will Mayweather take the punch and react afterward?

This is why I find the fight interesting. But like the commish states, it is very difficult at the moment to envision Maidana in fact pulling out this victory. Mayweather is so fast and ring resourceful (for example rarely gets hit clean), it does seem like a very uphill task for Maidana.

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ultimoshogun:

As much as I'd love to see Maidana repeat his performance against Broner and really challenge Floyd, I just don't see it happening. Maidana's offense will be assimilated by Mayweather in one round..from then on I'm expecting a shutout.

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Radam G:

The Hurricane was an innocence man wrongly convicted. His abili was air tight. I'm with the song about him by the great musicman that song his arse off about it. Holla!

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Radam G:

"It's one thing to dance around your opponents inside the ring, but I will never accept it if it's done outside of the ring. Whether or not people have done it in the past makes it no better or right for someone to do it in the present or future.

We have one voice, and one mind so there's not much we can do to change the views of the many who live in our era unless we get in the limelight. But for the billions that follow us in future generations, opportunities are there to show them a different path. When you are in a position to do that and you simply do not it's not agreeable with me.

At the end of the day, RG until he fights the one or two other guys close to or on par with him... I won't offer him recognition as the best ever. But you're right, what does that matter to him? When I was a sportsman, it didn't matter to me who thought what of me, so long as I knew in myself that I was the best and I acted accordingly. My problem is that Floyd does the first part... but not the latter."


I read you loud and clear. But there will always be Floyds, Jacks, Joes and a lot hoes. Hehehe! And they ain't gonna get down never and no how with danger to comfort fans or critics. Holla!

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Skibbz:

"Seldom in the history of boxing have the "best ever" fought the truthfully other best ever of his era. Lil' Floyd is among many greats in doing what he is doing. The one that quickly keep coming to my mind is the late, great Sugar Ray Robinson. He didn't step up and fight the best around. But he's often called the greatest pug to ever live by many earwitnesses and film eyewitnesses.

No matter how you shake it or make it, Lil' Floyd is going down in the annals of boxing as one of the greatest ever. He is a prizefighter, not pridefighter, fanfighter or the likes. Making fans and critics happy is the last thing he wants to do on his list of things to do just above being sick or dead. Holla!"


It's one thing to dance around your opponents inside the ring, but I will never accept it if it's done outside of the ring. Whether or not people have done it in the past makes it no better or right for someone to do it in the present or future.

We have one voice, and one mind so there's not much we can do to change the views of the many who live in our era unless we get in the limelight. But for the billions that follow us in future generations, opportunities are there to show them a different path. When you are in a position to do that and you simply do not it's not agreeable with me.

At the end of the day, RG until he fights the one or two other guys close to or on par with him... I won't offer him recognition as the best ever. But you're right, what does that matter to him? When I was a sportsman, it didn't matter to me who thought what of me, so long as I knew in myself that I was the best and I acted accordingly. My problem is that Floyd does the first part... but not the latter.

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Radam G:

"The Good Doctor, you are so right about Holmes' jab. Let me take it a few more steps. That jab was the best in heavyweight history. Yes, the BEST. It had speed and awesome power.

Larry also had a champion's set of cojones. How manytimes was he dropped/rocked by bombs, and came fighting back? The right by Renaldo Snipes. The uppercut by Mike Weaver. The special rounds against Tim Witherspoon and Ken Norton.

Yet, because of one moment, one dumb moment when he put his mouth into gear before engaging his brain, so many fans turned away from him forever.

You may not love the guy, but he truly is sorry for what he said.

And, like it or not, he was among history's greatest heavyweight champions.

-Randy G."


His best comeback was the night that he got monster blasted down by Earnie Shaver. I still don't know how he got up, but for the fact that he had/has double champion cojones.

His biggest flaw was that he didn't move his big-@$$ cranium. For a great heavyweight champion, he is aight. But boxing journalist Murray is half right about who he fought. Holla!

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Radam G:

"Yet he's the best ever and refuses to fight those other champions around him. 18 years and we haven't seen the best of him... but wait a short while and we will see the last of him.. For his legacy to still live on he needs to fight those other champions, so he isn't remembered for making the most $, but can truly be acknowledged as the best ever."

Seldom in the history of boxing have the "best ever" fought the truthfully other best ever of his era. Lil' Floyd is among many greats in doing what he is doing. The one that quickly keep coming to my mind is the late, great Sugar Ray Robinson. He didn't step up and fight the best around. But he's often called the greatest pug to ever live by many earwitnesses and film eyewitnesses.

No matter how you shake it or make it, Lil' Floyd is going down in the annals of boxing as one of the greatest ever. He is a prizefighter, not pridefighter, fanfighter or the likes. Making fans and critics happy is the last thing he wants to do on his list of things to do just above being sick or dead. Holla!

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Skibbz:

Yet he's the best ever and refuses to fight those other champions around him. 18 years and we haven't seen the best of him... but wait a short while and we will see the last of him.. For his legacy to still live on he needs to fight those other champions, so he isn't remembered for making the most $, but can truly be acknowledged as the best ever.

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Skibbz:

"While it's true that $$$May has not fought anybody with Maidana's style, the only guy Maidana has fought who remotely resembles $$$May in style is $$$May-wannabe, Adrien Broner. Maidana will quickly find out that his pressure tactics, while they worked on Broner, will be virtually useless against $$$May.

The fight will be competitive and interesting. But as I sit here writing this 10 days before the opening bell, I cannot envision Maidana pulling out a victory. Not by KO, not by TKO, not by decision.

-Randy G."


C'mon Commissioner you reckon this is competitive??? At least you envision no way for Maidana to do the full job because I don't either, I don't think anyone truly does.

He's going to get disheartened when he see's Floyd is no Broner. Floyd will attack early with fast, crisp shots from different angles and ranges. When Maidana, as he has been taught in prep, fires one or two in retaliation they'll catch the wind and nothing else. Repeat this over the course of 8 rounds and you'll have a tired slugger, with a supreme athlete now looking to pick some shots and drop him. A Floyd KO is very plausible with Maidana disheartened from not even finding the door to put his foot in.



On another note, Floyd has recently been saying he feels his recognition will come after he leaves the sport. I don't fail to recognise his incredible achievements, but I fail to acknowledge his greatness as a fighter if he does not make the best fights out there. Fighters fight to be called the best ever, and the best have to fight eachother..


@Roast I think one reason why people praise Hopkins and not Mayweather for that style is because of the difference in attitude outside of the ring. Floyd does not portray the most likeable personality.

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The Commish:

The Good Doctor, you are so right about Holmes' jab. Let me take it a few more steps. That jab was the best in heavyweight history. Yes, the BEST. It had speed and awesome power.

Larry also had a champion's set of cojones. How manytimes was he dropped/rocked by bombs, and came fighting back? The right by Renaldo Snipes. The uppercut by Mike Weaver. The special rounds against Tim Witherspoon and Ken Norton.

Yet, because of one moment, one dumb moment when he put his mouth into gear before engaging his brain, so many fans turned away from him forever.

You may not love the guy, but he truly is sorry for what he said.

And, like it or not, he was among history's greatest heavyweight champions.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Exactly, Deep.

After his last fight--against Alexander Povetkin--in which Klit initiated the astounding amount of 171 clinches in 12 rounds, I knew it was time to bring the curtain down on the younger Klitschko, who is a huge draw in Germany and a huge bore to American fans. He is so much of a bore that I am surprised ESPN is even bothering to show what should be a blowout for Wlad.

I guess that's because they are following this fight two weeks later with what should be a very interesting battle between Bermane Stiverne v Cris Arreola for the vacant WBC Heavyweight Championship. The winner will then make his first defense later this year against Big D--Deontay Wilder.

It was just Easter. With the upcoming Stiverne-Arreola fight and with Bryant Jennings v Mike Perez coming up, boxing is now celebrating its own version of Easter--the heavyweight division coming back from the dead.

-Randy G.

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David Lemieux-Fernando Guerrero Tops Stevenson-Fonfara Undercard

Knockout David Lemieux vs. Fernando Guerrero & Unbeaten Junior Middleweight Jermell Charlo Bolster Undercard Of “Superman’s” SHODebut Photo of Fernando Guerrero by Tom Casino / SHOWTIME Adonis “Superman” Stevenson (23-1-0, 20 KOs), the Sports Illustrated and The Ring Magazine 2013 Fighter of the Year, makes his SHOWTIME debut Saturday, May 24 at Bell Centre in Montreal in defense of his WBC Light Heavyweight World Championship against challenger Andrzej “The Polish Prince” Fonfara (25-2-0, 15 KOs), live on SHOWTIME...

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NOTE: ESPN To Screen Klitschko-Leapai on April 26

Two World Heavyweight Championship Fights in Two Weeks Live Exclusively on ESPN, ESPN Deportes; Wladimir Klitschko vs. Alex Leapai on April 26 Bermane Stiverne vs. Chris Arreola May 10 ESPN and ESPN Deportes will televise two World Heavyweight Championship fights within two weeks, Wladimir Klitschko (61-3, 52 KOs) vs. Alex Leapai (30-4-3, 24 KOs) on Saturday, April 26 from the König-Pilsener-Arena in Oberhausen, Germany, and, as previously announced, Bermane Stiverne (23-1-1, 20 KOs) vs. Chris Arreola (36-3, 31 KOs) on Saturday, May 10 from...

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NEWS ON: Next Donaire Fight, Next Tyson Card, Iron Boy Stream

FEATHERWEIGHT FURY! THREE FEATHERWEIGHT WORLD TITLE FIGHTSON ONE BLOCKBUSTER CARD! NONITO DONAIRE vs. SIMPIWE VETYEKA NICHOLAS WALTERS vs. VIC DARCHINYAN EVGENY GRADOVICH vs. ALEXANDER MISKIRTCHIAN Saturday, May 31 Cotai Arena at The Venetian Macao Donaire vs. Vetyeka Televised Same-Day at 4 P.M. ET/PT on HBO® Undercard To Be Streamed Live Via www.toprank.tv MACAO (April 22, 2014) – A press conference in Manila on Tuesday announced the details of Featherweight Fury – a championship event with three featherweight world...

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Behind the Scenes At Pacquiao-Bradley 2: Part One

Shortly after one o’clock on the afternoon of Thursday, April 10, Manny Pacquiao concluded a series of satellite interviews that originated in Section 118 of the MGM Grand Garden Arena. The interviews were designed to promote his April 12 fight against Tim Bradley and everything had gone according to plan. “My advantage is that I’m quicker than him and punch harder than him,” Pacquiao told one interviewer. When asked about being knocked out by Juan Manuel Marquez, Manny responded, “Sometimes these things happen. That is...

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