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The Shadow:

"Good points.

When I clicked on that link I was expecting someone different. Willie Monroe? $1 and lil Willy's opinion can get you a donut. Who cares about that opinion. Get some credible opinions. Ask some Hall of Famers their opinion. Ask guys at the top of the sport now and in the last few decades and get a consensus on who the best is. Sugar Ray Leonard is head and shoulders above Floyd. Speaking of head and shoulders,remember the Speed stick commercials? Hagler is head and shoulders above Floyd too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QeSGaWn7aQ

1988 Right Guard Sport Stick Commercial (with Marvelous Marvin Hagler)"


Don't matter who says it; he makes valid points. I posted it to Brownsugar because it was very similar to what he had posted in the post I repsonded to.

I think Willie Monroe makes some salient points. And if you want to get a great's take, I actually have screenshots on my phone from a Ray Leonard interview with Ring Magazine where he says something very, very similar.

In fact, most guys in boxing, championship level fighters, seem to heap this praise on Mayweather, many calling him the greatest of all time. It's mostly fans who throw stones at him, just like Monroe says.

Also, he was making a VERY good points that Pacquiao gets a pass but Stephen A. Smith will call for a boycott if he fights Amir Khan, a guy who would be favored to beat Chris Algieri by any unbiased observer and a guy who has done 10x in his career, amateur or pro, that Algieri. (This is something not even the most rabid hater would be able to dispute.)

And I like Algieri better than I do Khan, for the record.

It is what it is.

As far as your opinion on Marvin Hagler and Leonard compared to Mayweather, you're certainly entitled to that opinion.

I don't think Hagler's resume compares with Mayweather or even Pernell Whitaker but that's the beauty of boxing; the passion.

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Froggy:

Great commercial, deepwater2 ! My favorite boxing commercial I seen in my motel room the morning after watching Hagler Hearns in the Ceasar's Palace parking lot the night before ! Hagler is seen eating some pizza, he finally speaks saying " I wonder what he's eating right now, probably soup" ! I never seen it again !

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The Commish:

Have you guys ever been to one of these?

Not ever having been member of any of the alphabet soup organizations, nor much ofr a believer in any of them, I haqve been to exactly one of them. That is all I had to see.

Oh, it was fun, and I am sure I would have just as much fun if I attended every "soup convention" every year. But, for what purpose do I need to go?

Officials need to go. Judges. Referees. "Soup organization executives." Fans should also go to them, as so many of your favorite fighters and personalities--past and present--are often in attendance. But it's the officials who really need to be there. At these conventions, officials sharpen their "suck-up" skills. The more they suck up to the organization's president, the more he likes it. The more he likes it, the more assignments will be thrown his way.

The lone one I went towas in 1988. It was the WBC Convention in Mexico City. It was something like their 25th anniversary. Heavyweight champion Mike Tyson was there, looking heavier than I have ever seen him. He told me that he was 250. Uh-uh. Keep going, Mike. My guess was around 275. Amazingly, a few months later, Tyson was down to 218 for a title defense against Frank Bruno.

Don King was there, too. He was always with three people.

One of those people was Mike Tyson. King rarely let the 22-year-old heavyweight champ out of his sight.

Another one of the people King stayed close to was Jose Sulaiman. The WBC's El Presidente wielded humongous power, especially over the WBC ratings committee, and King always had Senor Sulaiman's ear.

The third person King couldn't get next to enough was me. Yes, me.

As Chairman of the New York State Athletic Commission, King looked at me as being the guy who could break the managerial contract between Tyson and Bill Cayton.

"Mike needs to be free from the grip of Bill Satan," King would bellow to me, then say, "Oh, did I say Satan? I meant Cayton."

To me, it was pure entertainment. Pure Don King vitriole, delivered and served as only DK could.

As I said earlier, officials need to be there. I actually saw two of my very own officials--one referee and one judge--scampering after El Presidente everywhere he went.

Once, while boarding a bus which took us to ancient Aztec ruins, Sulaiman stumbled on the steps heading into the bus. My judge was following so close behind him that he fell right on top of Sulaiman when the WBC boss went down. Now, THAT was being close to Sulaiman.

My advice to any of you who are looking to become a pro ref or judge--and want to work title fights outside of your own state--is to go to the dance. Pay the piper and go. Then take notes. Watch some of the veteran referees and judges, and watch their style. See them at breakfast with the "Soup organization's" President. See them at lunch with him. See them at dinner with him. See them at meetings and seminars, sitting with him. See them have photos taken of them with the President. See them taking "selfies" with the President. Watch them laugh when the President says something (even if it's not funny). Watch from afar (try to wear dark sunglasses, so you can make 'em think you're not staring at them!) as officials discreetly hand envelopes to the President, as well as to his executives. Gifts can be as important as "sucking up!" Remember the line from the "Godfather": "I don't ask much. I just want to wet my beak a little." If you help them wet their beaks you can rest assured you will get called to work some out-of-town and out-of-the-country title fights.

I saw my judge greasing some palms. It's not like I saw him do it a lot. In fact, I only saw him do it twice! I ended his judging career when we got back to New York.

With some practice, you'll be able to develop and work your own "suck-up style" into your week.

DO NOT LEAVE without letting the President know you are there. It's important he know. If you have to, force your way in. You may have to elbow your way past a lot of the others who are trying to suck up. Remember, if you don't do it, somebody else will! Do you want that next title fight, or do you want somebody else to get it?

Practice at home with some friends. Practice being overly nice. Nauseatingly nice. Consider it your training camp. You can't expect to go to these conventions and suck up like a pro if you've never done it before.

Practice! Work it! Tell them how great they look. Tell them you love their shirt (even though it probably doesn't match their pants!). Try googling some ideas. I'll bet if you ask Google "Ideas for sucking up and kissing butt" it'll have some unique ideas for you.

Be creative. Wear a Don King wig to breakfast. Make them remember you. Learn about the President's homeland. Tell him you and your respective other are planning a trip there soon. The President will probably say, "Call me when you arrive," as if he actually cares.

Good luck. Work it right and some juicy assignments will be coming to you. Remember, be pushy!

Lets us know how it goes.

-Randy G.

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deepwater2:

"Isn't this opinion based?



Is Madaina better than Algeri? Ortiz put him down a few times and beat him up. Khan put him down, staggered him and beat him more impressively than Floyd did. Also Alexander beat him. The first Floyd Chino fight was very close.



Floyd has not had an impressive or entertaining showing since he beat Cotto. Sure he schooled Alvarez, but he did what was expected.



Pac beat Bradley twice, who was a sure top 10 lb4lb and challenged himself by facing his nemesis and most difficult opponent in JMM a 4th time.



Floyd has yet to face his nemesis and perceived most difficult opponent yet."




Good points.



When I clicked on that link I was expecting someone different. Willie Monroe? $1 and lil Willy's opinion can get you a donut. Who cares about that opinion. Get some credible opinions. Ask some Hall of Famers their opinion. Ask guys at the top of the sport now and in the last few decades and get a consensus on who the best is. Sugar Ray Leonard is head and shoulders above Floyd. Speaking of head and shoulders,remember the Speed stick commercials? Hagler is head and shoulders above Floyd too.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QeSGaWn7aQ



1988 Right Guard Sport Stick Commercial (with Marvelous Marvin Hagler)

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deepwater2:

"It's interesting.



I was pretty sure that once Miss Jackson led the way on how to get money/lifestyle from Floyd without (necessarily and/or always) dropping to your knees, others would consider the risk/reward and follow.



Floyd just made it easier for them by his "All Access" (excuse the lame pun) antics.



In boxing gyms, usually you have to have not just people that understand boxing, but also good teachers that know how/when to impart knowledge.



I think it will be a while before the Mayweather gym produces (not just takes over) any serious champions of note.



It may even not happen until the next generation of Mayweathers.



Does anybody know? Was D2 serious about Love being TMT's new CEO?



Surely that's a joke."




I was joking but some toady has to replace Ellerbe why not Love? He just got knocked out and will do whatever Floyd tells him.



What does Arias talking to Rahmans have to do with any lawsuits?



A video is out there with Arias confronting Floyd.Here is an article on it:



Following the heated argument, Arias spoke about what transpired in the video :



"Basically on Saturday night, I was at home sleeping with my baby. I received a phone call in the middle of the night from J'Leon Love, saying that I was about to get released from Mayweather Promotions. Mind you it's the middle of the night. I was like 'okay, until i hear it from Floyd's mouth I'm going to continue doing what I've been doing,'" Arias said.



"I went to the gym on Monday, Floyd is there and I was going there to work out," Arias continued. "I went up to him and said 'what's up.' He said 'what's up' and looked away. He was leaving on his way out to the gym and you can see in the video that I approached him. I felt that the way he handled releasing me was very unprofessional. How are you going to have someone that I've been cool with, since I was a kid, tell me some foul sh*t like that. I felt that was bogus."



"To make things clear, how are you going to release me when you don't have me on contract and I'm clearly the best fighter you got. You give me no explanation on why you're releasing me and I approached him. I said 'you're not going to say nothing to me, you're just going to ignore me.' I thought that was real foul. He owns the company and this is his show and I thought that was real foul."



"When J'Leon approached me, I told him 'this has nothing to do with you.' I just felt Floyd should have called me himself. He should have called me and said 'I'm mad at this, this and this and I'm going to release you' and then I can't say nothing. All I can say is 'Floyd, I respect you' and thank him for the opportunity. All I've done is thank him for the last two years. I've taken all these fights and not complained. I haven't always got the best opponents and I never complained. I should have been on TV and I never complained. I've been quiet and winning for him. I got the most wins for this company since the very beginning. I've been playing my role."



Arias then went on to explain that he attributes his release to his close relationship with the Rahman's, who are currently suing Mayweather over that infamous 31-minute sparring session.



"Honestly, I think it ," he said. "There is no other reason behind it. That has to be what it is... When I had no money, when I had no place to stay, when I had no food, when I was trying to find my way into the game - they was taking care of me. I'm literally a part of their family. I can't turn my back on them when they helped me when I had no food and Floyd wasn't even . That's what it came down to, my relationship with the Rahmans. I understand Floyd doesn't want me associating with them, but I can't turn my back on them. That is over something that I have no control over. That whole situation has nothing to do with me."

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amayseng:

"Check this out, Suge. From a fighter: http://www.fighthype.com/news/article18328.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter"



Isn't this opinion based?



Is Madaina better than Algeri? Ortiz put him down a few times and beat him up. Khan put him down, staggered him and beat him more impressively than Floyd did. Also Alexander beat him. The first Floyd Chino fight was very close.



Floyd has not had an impressive or entertaining showing since he beat Cotto. Sure he schooled Alvarez, but he did what was expected.



Pac beat Bradley twice, who was a sure top 10 lb4lb and challenged himself by facing his nemesis and most difficult opponent in JMM a 4th time.



Floyd has yet to face his nemesis and perceived most difficult opponent yet.

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The Shadow:

"If Jordan is representative of the pinnacle of the sport... and is the embodiment of the greatest basketball player who ever lived. ....Then within the context of that definition I would have to say probably not.

But only because of a couple of untimely periods of inactivity.

Ultimately the nominee for the best ever scenario in boxing is a discussion that could potentially rage until the end of time.

But if we take into account Floyd's body of work within the last two decades..... he cannot be dismissed. On the contrary.....he must be embraced as one of the best ever within the context of the last twenty five years.

Honestly I also think its a position he would have to share with Manny Pacquiao since we don't have conclusive evidence which fighter would have prevailed had they met in 2009. Even though Manny lost to fighter who would never have a chance of defeating Floyd Mayweather.

Other than Manny,.... Floyd's timeline intersects with some of the greatest boxers in modern history.

Early in his career Mayweather challenged Sugar Shane Mosely when he still had a 92% KO ratio at lightweight. Shane declined the offer while explaining that he needed to go to the dentist. Yet he would go onto fight Vernon Forest and Oscar Del LA Hoya twice.

Floyd won the title from one of the most experienced and seasoned veteran boxers of the 90's....Genaro Hernandez...... at a point in his career when Genaro was considered to be invincible.

And he did it at the tender age of 21years old.

Floyd challenged a murderous boxer puncher named Kostya Tszyu who declined Floyds offer and eventually fought an energized Ricky Hatton instead a year later and was forced to retire before the final bell. ....Floyd destroyed Kostya's conquerer ... a tough physical brawler who had never known defeat.

Shane Mosely destroys a human wrecking machine named Antonio Margarito whom no one wanted any part of and becomes the Crown Jewell of the welterweight division until he subsequently becomes diagnosed as a shot fighter after facing Mayweather.

Floyd had a similar effect on Cotto also,

Cotto was also perceived to be unfit to compete at the elite level after suffering a decisive loss to Mayweather via unanimous decision. Cotto would go onto to establish himself as a future Hall of Famer by destroying Martinez for the middleweight title.

Canelo was said to be too green...after his one sided loss to Mayweather but has defeated the very best junior middleweights in the world today.

Do you see a pattern emerging here?

Floyd would have to ascend to mount olympus and defeat Zeus in a barehanded brawl to have a Career that was any more Mythic than his current resume.

And given the length of time he's been dominant in the sport even Jordan has to appreciate his longevity and the quality of his opposition.

Due to Floyds acrimonious relationship with the public it may take a while for fans to appreciate. But rest assured those accolades are forth coming.




-;"


Check this out, Suge. From a fighter: http://www.fighthype.com/news/article18328.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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the Roast:

If Malik Scott is in the mix it may be time to throw away the batch. Jim? Back to you.

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The Commish:

"Just a few moments ago, Malik Scott of Philadelphia outpointed former Klitschko foe and heavyweight title challenger Alex Leapai (30-6-3, 24 KO) at the Logan Metro Sports Centre in Crestmead, Queensland, Australia, cruising to a lopsided decision over the game, but overmatched Australian.

The three scorecards read 100-90, 99-91 and 98-92.

Utilizing his superior boxing skill, the taller Scott stayed on the outside and picked at the smaller Leapai who was unable to close the distance on the elusive American.

Scott -- coming off a disappointing knockout loss to good friend Deontay Wilder in a WBC title elimination bout -- regrouped with an impressive performance in enemy territory, putting him right back in the heavyweight mix.

Scott improves to 37-2 while Leapai drops to six defeats in 39 outings."

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Talk is cheap. Real cheap.

Prior to the fight and at the final press conference for this one, Leapia said things such as "Scott has no chance against me" and "I'm gonna' tear his head off." Guess what? Leapai didn't get close to doing any such thing.

Either the fight showed that Scott indeed has some some boxing ability or that Leapai has none. With a hometown crows cheering him on from the outset, he quickly turned them into a still life watercolor with his slow, lumbering, mummy-like advances towards Scott, who has had harder gym workouts.

Leapai should have jumped right on Scott, the way Deontay Wilder did, and stayed there. Wilder's power and pressure were simply too much for Scott to take, and he folded like a kid's backyard tent in a wind storm.

With his non-effort against Wladimir Klitschko, in which he talked a much better fight than the one he stepped into the ring with, now making Malik Scott look like he's the man to dethrone both Klitschko and Bermane Stiverne, you'd have to think that Australia will have to wait a bit longer for a homegrown heavyweight contender to come along.

Maybe they can pin their heavyweight hopes on 21-0 Lucas Browne?

As for Leapai, sorry, Bernie Campbell. I know you idolized Leapai, but he just ain't the one. His bark is bigger than his bite!

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

"Just a few moments ago, Malik Scott of Philadelphia outpointed former Klitschko foe and heavyweight title challenger Alex Leapai (30-6-3, 24 KO) at the Logan Metro Sports Centre in Crestmead, Queensland, Australia, cruising to a lopsided decision over the game, but overmatched Australian.

The three scorecards read 100-90, 99-91 and 98-92.

Utilizing his superior boxing skill, the taller Scott stayed on the outside and picked at the smaller Leapai who was unable to close the distance on the elusive American.

Scott -- coming off a disappointing knockout loss to good friend Deontay Wilder in a WBC title elimination bout -- regrouped with an impressive performance in enemy territory, putting him right back in the heavyweight mix.

Scott improves to 37-2 while Leapai drops to six defeats in 39 outings."



Talk is cheap. Real cheap.

Prior to the fight and at the final press conference for this one, Leapia said things such as "Scott has no chance against me" and "I'm gonna' tear his head off." Guess what? Leapai didn't get close to doing any such thing.

Either the fight showed that Scott indeed has some some boxing ability or that Leapai has none. With a hometown crows cheering him on from the outset, he quickly turned them into a still life watercolor with his slow, lumbering, mummy-like advances towards Scott, who has had harder gym workouts.

Leapai should have jumped right on Scott, the way Deontay Wilder did, and stayed there. Wilder's power and pressure were simply too much for Scott to take, and he folded like a kid's backyard tent in a wind storm.

With his non-effort against Wladimir Klitschko, in which he talked a much better fight than the one he stepped into the ring with, now making Malik Scott look like he's the man to dethrone both Klitschko and Bermane Stiverne, you'd have to think that Australia will have to wait a bit longer for a homegrown heavyweight contender to come along.

Maybe they can pin their heavyweight hopes on 21-0 Lucas Browne?

As for Leapai, sorry, Bernie Campbell. I know you idolized Leapai, but he just ain't the one. His bark is bigger than his bite!

-Randy G.

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Radam G:

Hehehehe! Awesome music and very truthful lyrics, Skibbz. Holla!

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Skibbz:

"It's interesting.

I was pretty sure that once Miss Jackson led the way on how to get money/lifestyle from Floyd without (necessarily and/or always) dropping to your knees, others would consider the risk/reward and follow.

Floyd just made it easier for them by his "All Access" (excuse the lame pun) antics.

In boxing gyms, usually you have to have not just people that understand boxing, but also good teachers that know how/when to impart knowledge.

I think it will be a while before the Mayweather gym produces (not just takes over) any serious champions of note.

It may even not happen until the next generation of Mayweathers.

Does anybody know? Was D2 serious about Love being TMT's new CEO?

Surely that's a joke."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HZ04FPK0S8

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stormcentre:

It's interesting.

I was pretty sure that once Miss Jackson led the way on how to get money/lifestyle from Floyd without (necessarily and/or always) dropping to your knees, others would consider the risk/reward and follow.

Floyd just made it easier for them by his "All Access" (excuse the lame pun) antics.

In boxing gyms, usually you have to have not just people that understand boxing, but also good teachers that know how/when to impart knowledge.

I think it will be a while before the Mayweather gym produces (not just takes over) any serious champions of note.

It may even not happen until the next generation of Mayweathers.

Does anybody know? Was D2 serious about Love being TMT's new CEO?

Surely that's a joke.

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The Shadow:

"Was Arias contractually tied to Mayweather promotions D2?"

What was Floyd to do? They have a lawsuit going on so the lines are drawn. It's either one side or the other.

Especially when it's a case of a close family friend -- the Rahmans have been close with the Mayweathers for many, many years -- so there's the element of betrayal also.

And to answer your question, according to Arias, he wasn't contractually tied to them. (I get the feeling you knew that hehe.)

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The Commish:

I totally agree, Deep. Saunders can and will make a lot of noise, but that's all he will do. He's not that rowdy and out of control that he's gonna' swat Eubanks Jr.--or anybody else--at the press conference.

He's gonna' save the fireworks for the ring!

Can't wait for the card. It indeed is a good one.

-Randy G.

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stormcentre:

Was Arias contractually tied to Mayweather promotions D2?

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deepwater2:

Solid work.keep up the good job man.

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deepwater2:

Shane can beat anybody except the boxers he lost to and the divorce lawyer that took his belts also.



Shane should fight Mayorga or Taylor .



Maybe Shane can give a young fighter a shot? Luis Arias just got released by Floyd Mayweather promotions for saying hi to the Rahman brothers. Maybe Oscar can step in and sign him. The kid was the best prospect in that illegal Mayweather gym. Floyd had his new CEO j Leon love fire the kid. What a class guy.

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Radam G:

"Kind of ironic a Canadian, Tommy Burns, gave Johnson a shot at the title but Johnson didn't want to give a foreigner, another Canadian Sam Langford, a shot at the title ! I think the fact they had already fought a few times might have had something to do with his decision !"

Your thinking would be right. And that is boxing. You don't fight any Sam that there may be you for peanuts. Nevertheless, JJ could have made a mint in Canada to fight Langford there, but JJ went for the easier mints on the mainland of the USA.

Johnson was making Money May's type of money for those days to fight the ethnic of pugs that he fought while champ.

Money May has learned well about boxing business. As Johnson did 99 years ago and plus by fighting white fighters and making that mad dough -- actually in gold -- Money May prefer to dance with Latino white fighters because of how much of that mad paper dough that he makes.

Just as Money May shows off that weak U.S. paper money, JJ showed off gold coins and bars. Matter of fact, he got so jiggy with it, that he showed his status of making the big gold by having some put on his grill, thus he was literally known for his "Golden smile." But knuckleheaded bigots and racists of those yesteryears, called him "A Golden-teeth grinning coon." OMFG! Those were some crazy times. Holla!

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Froggy:

"Easy breezy WHY! MONEY!



After "Big Ole Smoke, " whup up on Tommy Boy, aka "Noah, "Unforgivable Blackness" announced that he was continuing the "drawing of the Color Line." And not fight any "Colored fighters," especially Sam Longford because he was "a foreigner" and "I won the title back for Americans."



Holla at some of Jack Johnson's own spoken words on YouTube. He was a paradox and an enigma. Holla!"




Kind of ironic a Canadian, Tommy Burns, gave Johnson a shot at the title but Johnson didn't want to give a foreigner, another Canadian Sam Langford, a shot at the title ! I think the fact they had already fought a few times might have had something to do with his decision !

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stormcentre:

"If this madness happens I would take Shane over JT even at 160.

At least Shane has intentions of landing shots."


Good point.

You got me thinking, maybe I should reconsider my above stated position on Shane's comeback.

After all, if Taylor can get a world title shot and go forward; then Shane probably can too (particularly with Haymon's match fixing . . whoops I mean matchmaking assistance).

Probably best to let Shane go anyway, after all some things you need to experience yourself to know they're real.

In one of my current roles I advise businesses on how/when to transform themselves. It never ceases to amaze me how often businesses will think, because it's their business and they operationally run it, they know project activity and transformations. 90% of the times they get it drastically wrong, and also both underestimate the complexity and at the same time dismiss risks.

The results are almost always catastrophic, costly and painful, and from this repetitious mess and endless lesson in human ego and nature I have arrived at a saying I authored that applies also to Shane's situation and the thousands of other fighters like him . . . . . .

Sometimes you need to feel the potholes under the wheels and the suspension jarring your back, before you realise and admit that the road taken is not quite as smooth/suitable as you first anticipated.

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Radam G:

"Radam..you nothin but a friscoe...Manny Kayos the Doctor in the first 30 seconds...mmnnnyyyyaa!"

Hehehehe! I know! Holla!

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Bernie Campbell:

Radam..you nothin but a friscoe...Manny Kayos the Doctor in the first 30 seconds...mmnnnyyyyaa!

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stormcentre:

"He is the one storm everybody loves to see coming!

Keep on stormin'!!!!!

-Randy G."


WTF !!

I gave up my porno career years ago.

Thunder down under and all that.

Still, on a more serious note, I'll keep putting it down good on the street and in this forum - if you do too, AND continue to be diligent in keeping James away from that confectionary table . . . .

That's hilarious.

Years ago, we had a friend called Bernie (top guy) but if he ever went out to pick up a group buy of chicken and chips or similar, once he got back, if you checked your dinner box, there was not only always some chips and a bit of chicken missing - but also the chips were all rearranged and strategically placed so as to conceal the crime and intrusion.

Your story of Toney reminds me of him.

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rdv_27:

Ahhhh Jack Johnson the guy who in a way got me into Jaaazz music and boxing. I wish they'd make more documentaries about other boxers like those they made about him.

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Radam G:

He got the Jeffries brothers petty good and whipped both of their arses, and they were not even cruel to him.

They were just used and hopes for racism. Nevertheless, traveling around the world and becoming fluent in five languages, maybe "Big Ole Smoke" was much more than an American hero, he was/is a world hero. Holla!

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The Commish:

"Right on, Storm. I'm new here myself, but already look forward to your posts. Keep it up, brother."

He is the one storm everybody loves to see coming!

Keep on stormin'!!!!!

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

"Great piece commish.

As for the weight issues that we have been seeing a lot of and on a consistent basis, here is my suggestion.

Make the fighters really think about it before signing that contract and make it such that "buying" a weight advantage will hit them hard in the pocketbook.

How hard? I say 75% of the purse if they reach an agreement to move forward. The commissions need to be aligned on this of course but there is no fighter out there that wouldn't think twice about having 75% of their purse taken.

And where would that 75% go? I say 50% percent goes to the fighter hurt and 25% gets rebated back to the fans who bought tickets to the event but not getting all that they were paying for.

With such a high penalty, I think we would see fighters missing the contracted weight happen less often. This could lead to more cancellations (if a fighter is not looking good to make weight more mysterious injuries may appear) but would eliminate the issues with weight we are having now by not allowing fighters to buy weight advantages in the hope of furthering their careers with a big win with that advantage."


I like the thought.

Any other ideas?

It's ideas like this, when thrown around in state athletic commission boardrooms, get turned into rules and policy.

A chin shot is effective as are well-placed body shots.

But nothing hurts a fighter more than a hard, powerful shot to the wallet. When this happens, his whole team is punished. The less money he makes, the less their take is.

Start smacking their wallets and watch what happens on the day of a weigh-in: Everybody will make weight.

You can go to the bank with that!

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Of course his race held him back. white America wasn't ready for an African-American heavyweight champion, especially one as brash, outspoken and controversial as Johnson.

I have been fortunate to have met so many incredible legends of this great sport. Jack Johnson is the one guy that, if I could go back in time to meet, I would.

If he were around today, he'd be another Muhammad Ali.

To the memory of Jack Johnson, I apologize for all the Kenesaw "Mountain" Landis', James Jeffries', Jim Crows' and all the other hate-filled Americans who did him wrong.

Jack Johnson was more than a boxing hero.

He was an American hero!

-Randy G.

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Pazuzu:

Right on, Storm. I'm new here myself, but already look forward to your posts. Keep it up, brother.

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STEVE FARHOOD BREAKS DOWN SATURDAY’S SHOWTIME BOXING: SPECIAL EDITIONON “THE BOXING BLOG” “Andrzej Fonfara is a fan-friendly TV fighter. Have I just praised him or insulted him? Maybe a little of both.” – Steve Farhood on “The Boxing Blog”: http://s.sho.com/1wFQXox Read Farhood’s preview and don’t miss the fights this Saturday, live at 9 p.m. ET/PT on SHOWTIME®. ### Homecoming: Fonfara vs. Ngumbu is a 10-round light heavyweight fight promoted by Warriors Boxing. In the co-main event, WBO World Bantamweight Champion...

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Sam Soliman Wants Rematch With Jermain Taylor

SAM SOLIMAN, AUSTRALIA’S MIDDLEWEIGHT BOXING CHAMPION LOOKING FOR ANOTHER TITLE TILT Victoria, Australia (October 30, 2014) Former IBF Middleweight champion, SAM SOLIMAN, is on the comeback trail after winning the respect of millions of boxing fans around the world by raising the bar on courage and determination by fighting with a knee injury that would have caused 99% of fighters to quit. Soliman injured his medial ligament in the 6th round when defending his IBF Middleweight title in Biloxi, Mississippi on October 8, against Jermain...

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BEADLE 'N BERNARD

The Fight Game with Jim Lampley: Bernard Hopkins Interview Michelle Beadle interviews Bernard Hopkins on the latest installment of The Fight Game with Jim Lampley. Hopkins vs. Kovalev happens Saturday, Nov. 8 live on HBO beginning at 10:45pm...

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ANDRZEJ FONFARA vs. DOUDOU NGUMBU FINAL PRESS CONFERENCE QUOTES

ANDRZEJ FONFARA vs. DOUDOU NGUMBU TOMOKI KAMEDA vs. ALEJANDRO HERNANDEZ JAVIER FORTUNA vs. ABNER COTTO FINAL PRESS CONFERENCE QUOTES SHOWTIME BOXING: Special Edition This Saturday, Nov. 1, Live On SHOWTIME® At 9 p.m. ET/PT From UIC Pavilion In Chicago Photo Credit: Esther Lin/SHOWTIME CHICAGO (Oct. 30, 2014) – Virtually all corners of the world were represented at Thursday’s final press conference at the W Hotel in Chicago for this Saturday’s SHOWTIME BOXING: Special Edition tripleheader from the UIC Pavilion in...

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Kovalev Talks At Media Workout

Sergey Kovalev Deerfield Beach Media Workout Team Krusher Photo Credits: Denis Bancroft/Main Events Deerfield Beach, FL (Oct. 30, 2014) - Sergey "Krusher" Kovalev opened up his camp to the media today in preparation for his Nov. 8 light heavyweight unification bout with Bernard "The Alien" Hopkins at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, NJ and live on HBO World Championship Boxing®. Question:How do you study Hopkins? Sergey Kovalev: "I don't study anybody. It is better to go to the gym to do some work for my shape or spend time to cook my...

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Female Fighter Succumbs to Injuries; Plus, Other Female Fight News

Female fighters pay their dues just like men. Sometimes they pay the ultimate cost. South Africa’s Phindile Mwelase, 31, paid that cost on Wednesday, Oct. 29, when she passed away. She had been in a coma after being hospitalized following a boxing match in South Africa. During a fight with Liz Butler on Oct. 10, in Pretoria, South Africa, Mwelase was knocked out in a junior welterweight clash. She was taken to Kalafong Hospital and was in a coma for two weeks. She was placed on life support and never emerged from that coma. She underwent...

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WBC Convention Is Dec. 14-19 in Vegas

The World Boxing Council is delighted to announce that a sensational lineup of great world champions are joining our annual convention at the Mirage Hotel in Las Vegas from December 14th to 19th. The boxing legends will include Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Roberto Duran, Marvin Hagler, Julio Cesar Chavez, Oscar de la Hoya, Joe Calzaghe, Nigel Benn, Jeff Fenech, Erik Morales, and that’s just the start! Many more have also already confirmed their attendance. The WBC has blazed a trail as a boxing pioneer and hosted 51...

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Hopkins is ALMOST 50...Repeat, Almost 50

TWO MONTHS SHY OF HIS 50TH BIRTHDAY - BERNARD HOPKINS ATTEMPTS TO UNIFY AGAIN PHILADELPHIA (October 30) - Bernard "The Alien" Hopkins (55-6-2, 32 KOs) isn't the first elder statesman of the sweet science to hold the light heavyweight crown. With a win on Saturday, November 8 against WBO Champion Sergey "Krusher" Kovalev (25-0-1, 23 KOs at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City live on HBO World Championship Boxing®, Hopkins would be just one belt away from becoming the first fighter in boxing history to hold all four major alphabet titles...

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