This could very well be Bernard Hopkins' toughest fight. Gotta' give him a round of applause for taking on Beibut Shumenov.
Late last year, Hopkins told me he intended to carefully watch Shumenov in action against Tamas Kovacs. B-Hop was ringside to witness Shumenov's three knockdown destruction of Kovacs. He liked what he saw, and now is hours away from facing his taller, younger opponent from Kazakhstan.
While many veterans and authorities believe this will be the end of the line for Hopkins, and while I feel it will be a close, competitive fight, I see Hopkins using his decades of ring experience to show Shumenov and the rest of us just why he is a future Hall-of-Famer. He will nullify Shumenov on the inside, even tire him out. From the outside, B-Hop will keep the pace just as he wants it to be, controlling the action with his terrific jab.
I see this one going deep...probably the distance. When it does, B-Hop will have won for the 55th time, while Shumenov will have lost for just the second time.
Shoulder Roll Defense:
TC by decision if this fight actually gets made. TC is as skilled as Gamboa and has better ring IQ/ring generalship than the Cuban. The longer Crawford will fight behind his jab and switch back and forth between orthodox and southpaw, thus neutralizing the hand speed of Gamboa. Hand speed would be the only advantage Gamboa would have in the matchup.Reply
I wanted to see the fight circa spring 2010 when it should have been made and actually would have been a real Superfight. It's almost as bad now as if Holmes and Foreman would have fought in the 90's and thinking that would have been an indicator of how the fight would have went circa 79-80 had Foreman remained active. I don't even want to see the fight now. Mayweather will win and it won't prove anything to me. Sorry.Reply
Again, B-Hop is gonna whup another hyped-up young gun. The fight, he has already won. Holla!Reply
The acrimony between the camps continues. As long as Arum is involved the fight will not happen, Mayweather has made that point
abundantly clear. So you writers should drop the it until something changes . It's becoming a tired subject that's suffering from
over exposure already. I urge you to concentrate on reality, there are other interesting matchups for both men as they approach retirement.
Gamboa is explosive, but extremely careless and mistake prone, I'll definitely watch this match-up....
I might be leaning toward Gamboa but I think Crawford is more solid.
Perez, when he is on it, has some very good moves and excellent power.
He's like a little Mike Tyson sometimes.
Knows when to go for the kill too, and can do that when/if needed.
I don't get this article; yes Pacquiao has officially lost twice, but why give that any credence to that when the first was a robbery?
And apparently there's not a morsel of evidence he can win, but he just beat the number 2 guy at welterwight, EASILY, so who the hell else should Mayweather be fighting at this juncture?
Finally...Floyd played his hand perfectly? By blatantly ducking his most natural opponent for the last several years? No. He set himself up for a lifetime of questions as to why he didn't fight Manny when he should have, and irrevocably tarnished his legacy in the process.
Not interested. The mere thought of the antics of Floyd & family up until fighttime make me sick, and the fight itself wouldn't deliver enough to compensate for it.
Thought of note: there must be a reason - beyond pride or narcissism - Floyd hasn't responded to the lure of neither the cash nor the possibility to win this, in the eyes of a majority of the boxing world, supposedly easy fight. Floyd is, quite right, considered a superb analyst. Could it be he sense it wouldn't be quite as easy? Is there one fight that still can bring the absolute max out of Manny Pacquiao, it's this one. All the insults, all the sqornful smiles, would be his driving gasoline thru twelwe rounds of high energy. I've said it before: Floyd knows - victory or no victory - this would be a painful one, and all his other qualities aside: he doesn't like to bleed.
This is a good fight for both guys. Who knows after this fight Terry may attract more fans, but how many people will tune in?
I think Terry will take Gamboa, but Gamboa will provide a challenge Terry hasn't faced before so it'll be nice to see how he reacts. Then again when I think of it Gamboa could land something that would take Terry's legs from under him.
He's been signing guys non stop recently. Especially 140-7'ers. Presumably with the same message... "i'll feed and cloth you well, and take you to your world title son."
Surely one or two of them must have clocked that there's not enough belts for the all of them?
I can't wait for this bill, been looking forward to it since it's been announced.
Surprising there's so many takers for Shumenov. I don't think he's as scary as people believe. He should have two losses, his unorthodox defence doesn't help him and Bernard will beat him inside once he takes away his legs. Let's not forgot how avoidable his fully loaded shots are.
BHop by UD.
Money May is luvin' it. But he will never take dat step in dat squared jungle with Da Manny. Da Manny is too uncanny.
Money May is built like the Titanic. He's been built up not to sink. But he will, and all the Kanos will panic. They act like Money May's poop poop doesn't stink.
He's the smart one. Da Manny would beat him silly, and spread him all over the canvas like mustard on a hot dog bun..
Down will go another myth about _____ ______ superiority. On what should, could and would happen, never listen to a bias authority.
Through the ages, there have been tons of impossible to win fights for underdogs. But the favored fighters have constantly ended up getting slaughtered like hogs. Holla!
Hehehehe! He will sell his soul. That dinero al diablo he wants to hold. Holla!Reply
I would say just about good enough to be a conditining coach for a Polish division 4 soccer team.
Not impressed. I rate him with the undefeated/five losses Sven Ottkes of the world.
For whatever reason, this matchup has captured the general public's imagination.
The hardcore fan base, from a PPV standpoint, does little to propel buys to the seven-figure stratosphere.
Moreover, the casuals have little to no knowledge along with a notorious short-term memory.
Like Frank points out, Manny Pacquiao can get flattened three more times and people would still buy.
You may recall, Mike Tyson, prior to challenging Lennox Lewis, hadn't looked sharp in decades nor had he even had a decent performance in years.
You guys may also remember the Pacquiao-Shane Mosley fight.
Hardcores crapped all over it, but savvy promoter Bob Arum couldn't care less.
"Sugar Shane Mosley resonates," said Arum, referring to the casual fan base.
Sure enough, these two fights did a combined 3.4m buys with each event being Lewis', Tyson's and Pacquiao's biggest PPVs to date.
When the x-factor -- perceived power -- is involved, the casual fan is convinced that the power will make that difference.
Of course, they're ignorant to the fact that power on its own is worth little more than a luxury vehicle without gas...
For that reason, I would agree with Frank.
This fight is Teflon. And I think everyone involved is well aware of that as well.
The Good Doctor:
You guys are so much smarter and deeper than me. I think you have to have 10-10 rounds and the reason is simple. Boxing scoring by definition is subjective, therefore all results must be considered due to the fact that there are no restrictions in judgement.Reply
Gamboa? when has he fought last? 2 years ago?
I will take Crawford
"Interesting analogy with baseball and calling a ball or strike. I'm ok with an even round, provided it's used as judiciously as a 10-8 round with no knockdown, and not simply as an out due to indecision. Bowe-Holyfield 1, Round 10. I scored for Bowe, 10-9, thought he did the greater damage. But Holyfield was the champ, so does he get a slight edge as the incumbent? Holyfield came on strong, turned the tide, and was winning the latter part of the round. Are the final 45 seconds more important, weighed more heavily, than the first 45 seconds? Ray Leonard deliberately flurried against Hagler at the end of each round in order to influence the judges. Going back to Bowe, I'd certainly have no qualms about that round being scored even. I believe Kellerman likes to say that when in doubt, he asks himself which fighter he'd rather be, and I'm with that."
I agree with the which fighter would I have rather been.
"You make a good argument and I suppose 10-8 can be used in some situations. But if you carpet bomb a guy for the full round the ref can step in and stop it, step in and give a standing 8 ( which makes it a 10-8) or the fighter getting bombed that bad should get knocked down. So yes a 10-8 without a knockdown can be awarded but it shouldn't be easy . The key is getting competent judges in there."
To me a 10-8 round is a knockdown or if you stagger a guy all over the place where he is clearly hurt.
Interesting analogy with baseball and calling a ball or strike. I'm ok with an even round, provided it's used as judiciously as a 10-8 round with no knockdown, and not simply as an out due to indecision. Bowe-Holyfield 1, Round 10. I scored for Bowe, 10-9, thought he did the greater damage. But Holyfield was the champ, so does he get a slight edge as the incumbent? Holyfield came on strong, turned the tide, and was winning the latter part of the round. Are the final 45 seconds more important, weighed more heavily, than the first 45 seconds? Ray Leonard deliberately flurried against Hagler at the end of each round in order to influence the judges. Going back to Bowe, I'd certainly have no qualms about that round being scored even. I believe Kellerman likes to say that when in doubt, he asks himself which fighter he'd rather be, and I'm with that.Reply
I don't like Gamboa's chances against Crawford, the Nebraskan will make the Cuban pay for his poor habits in the square jungle!Reply
With all the talk regarding Shumenov I wouldn't be surprised if we see an upset, but I have not seen enough of him to make a prediction.Reply
Congratulations guys all three of you contribute beautifullyReply
The fight should still happen, and I think Bob will make it once he's milked Manny enough.Reply
"Could it be the first shot towards ending the cold war? This day may live in infamy"
Quite possibly? I hope so, knock down those walls!
Shumenov reminds me of a Mongolian Holy field... Deep heart..not as good but formidal nonetheless. I wouldn't be surprised if he shocked Bhop....he'd better be on his toes.Reply
"And why not a 10-8 round without a knockdown? You're overrating the knockdown. It's the same as saying, no, you can't have an inside the park home run, you have to hit it over the wall. What are we, playing in Lil Jimmy's backyard? You carpet bomb a guy for 180 seconds, whal-la! 10-8."
You make a good argument and I suppose 10-8 can be used in some situations. But if you carpet bomb a guy for the full round the ref can step in and stop it, step in and give a standing 8 ( which makes it a 10-8) or the fighter getting bombed that bad should get knocked down. So yes a 10-8 without a knockdown can be awarded but it shouldn't be easy . The key is getting competent judges in there.
Excellent discussion. Nice to sit back and just read without feeling the need to participate for the first time in 16 days. I look forward to more from the reign of ArneK. You are killing it so far Arne.Reply
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