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brownsugar:

I honestly don't see what Mayweather can do to greatly improve upon his last performance. Mayweather cannot truly improve due to his age.... He can only attempt to ressurect his once incomparable skill......to somehow retrieve the slowly fading abilities he used to have.

He's training harder and incorporating more strength training along with more rigorous speed drills but his battle is against age. The best he can hope for is an extra 2% or 3% improvement over his last effort.

Maidana has the invulnerability of youth. ...along with the wreckless Kamikaze faith of a warrior who truly believes he won the first war.

He will not yield ...he will not back down unless its for strategic purposes only.

Maidana has the far greater potential to improve from a physicality standpoint and is the first boxer since Del LA Hoya to successfully use the jab on Floyd whenever he regains the momentum.

In the first fight Maidana effectively crouched and jabbed while moving in reverse to elude Mayweather whenever it appeared Floyd was beginning to exploit the crazed Argentenians chaotic offence.

Despite his crude technique Maidana is not quite the mindless automaton he appears to be.
He's boxing's version of a remorseless psychopath, who wears the festering Hockeymask of resentment and disrespect while he dispenses his brand of terror upon his unsuspecting opponents in the form of a serial attack.

Mayweather's struggle will be to take advantage during the lulls and gaps between Maidana's offence. One miscalculation could be his last.
If Floyd suffers a knockdown or gets pummled to frequently trying to use the ropes...he may find himself facing a deficit on the scorecards that could posdibly be too deep to overcome.

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The Commish:

"Boom.



Andre ,train hard, get into the ring,keep winning ,finish the contract and take it from there. Hopefully GTP will drop the defamation suit and everyone will get down to business. Please fire and disassociate yourself from the people that gave you the advice to sue."




For Andre Ward, there is no other answer. Get in the gym, let Dan Goossen get you some fights, do some announcing, relax a little, get back in the gym and repeat the process. You'll earn big buckeroos and you'll have less headaches from boxing than you get from being in the courtroom!



It's his only real, viable option.



-Randy G.

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stormcentre:

"QUOTE=stormcentre;61931]Randy, in your opinion does John have the gumption to pull Mayweather up (and penalize him) for using the elbow, in a big fight like this?"

John will be one of the judges. A boxing judge cannot randomly deduct a point from his/her scorecard unless instructed by the referee that he/she is deducting a point for an infraction. Judges are there to score the round. The referee is there to more or less be the traffic cop and enforce the rules.

John knows how to watch a fight and I consider him one of the best around. I commend NSAC Executive Director Bob Bennett for making John McKaie as one of his choices to judge the $$$May-Maidana rematch.

-Randy G."

Oh, thanks for that.

I actually didn't read the title of this thread properly and somehow mistook it for John being the referee of the upcoming Mayweather V Maidana fight.

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The Commish:

"I think the lamp post he punched out ,punched him back too hard. Boxing is always a place to redeem oneself but he is out of it talking about fighting ggg at this point. The plan could be this:

1 quit drinking and no pills

2 get out of Ohio and move into a studio by Robert Garcia's gym

3 run and spar against all comers

4 line up a fight against a can

5 evaluate performance against the can

6 do it again

7 do not visit Ohio

8 stay off the bottle

9 fight a fringe contender and look good

10 spar top guys

11 keep going to support meetings

12 call out ggg and good luck

The deepwater 12 step program."




I love your program. Unfortunately, I am not sure, from all I have heard from those who really know Pavlik and have been around him, if he can past stage one of your program!



-Randy G.

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The Commish:

QUOTE=stormcentre;61931]Randy, in your opinion does John have the gumption to pull Mayweather up (and penalize him) for using the elbow, in a big fight like this?"

John will be one of the judges. A boxing judge cannot randomly deduct a point from his/her scorecard unless instructed by the referee that he/she is deducting a point for an infraction. Judges are there to score the round. The referee is there to more or less be the traffic cop and enforce the rules.

John knows how to watch a fight and I consider him one of the best around. I commend NSAC Executive Director Bob Bennett for making John McKaie as one of his choices to judge the $$$May-Maidana rematch.

-Randy G.

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Radam G:

No! It will be another razor-close win for Money May, who will never match up well against this type of pug. Money May dancing with Chino is like wrestling with a grizzly bear in a bathtub.

This will be another ugly fight, with Money May doing enough to get through the night. Holla!

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stormcentre:

"They're 1-1, although Dirrell's defeat is somewhat disputed (by the US camp, of course lol). Happened during the Olympics, semifinal I believe.

GGG has said himself that Dirrell is one of the best, if not the best, that he ever fought. Which I guess is pretty obvious when you look at his record.

Dirrell is much better than Bute, by the way."


(Andre) Dirrell has mad skills but is yet to put them together under pressure and on the seriously big stage.

He did give 3G serious problems and laid somewhat of a blueprint in how to at least befuddle him - but then as you say 3G has beaten him (in the amateurs) and vice-versa.

A prime Kelly Pavlik would - for a while at least - give 3G something to think about.

Golovkin certainly wouldn't wade in without regard for his face the way he currently does; if Kelly used those long arms, distance and his leverage properly.

I just hope we get to see Dirrell take some serious steps towards contention and a title soon.

And I hope Golovkin fights someone that presents a serious challenge soon as well, as there are plenty out there for him.

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Radam G:

"That loss in kickboxing was years ago. Chris Algieri did not have anywhere near the training, conditioning, skill or knowledge that he has now.



KTFO'd? He sure did get KRFO'd. But that was nothing compared to the face-down nap Da' Manny took just two years ago.



I recognize Pacquiao as an all-time great, a lock to make the Hall-of-Fame on his first year of eligibility. However, he's not getting any younger...or faster...or more skillful...or better...or stronger. He will be outreached in this fight by a quick and skillful boxer.



Pacquiao is a great fighter. On November 22, there may still be plenty of greatness left inside of him. If that's the case, he'll beat Algieri and just about anybody on the other side of the ring from him.



But ifr he's slipping, we'll know it early in the fight. In that case, it will be a long night.



A long one for Manny Pacquiao.



-Randy G."




That "KTFO'd" was C-Al fibbing and hiding his. Ev'ybodee and dey momma know Da Manny has been KTFO face down TWICE and once to the belly. It comes with the territory. But C-Al and his supporters, protectors and bodyguards surrounding the lies and myths of C-Al being a clearcut undefeated kickboxer/boxer have been trying to hide and push reality of the actuality to the side.



And if they keep fibbing, I can come up with a double "face down nap" of C-Al "just two years ago." Dude should know that cameras have been on him in every gym that he has been in in the last 10 years.



Wow! You really love your homeboy. I can respect that. And I will not be the one releasing footage -- anymore -- of him stumbling, tumbling or super napping. No jive! I can come up with the reel of the real. But Imma stand back and hide in plain sight and let promotion does what it does -- hide damaging stuff. And let the damaged come up with bluff after bluff how he's going to be so tough and rough. And is gonna upset the world twice. And next year take down Money May. Okay!



But this is what Da Manny is planning in Macau http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90y8vSjQNNI. Translation = sleep face down not, but to assure that will likely be the position of C-Al -- a now rich C-Al. Holla!

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stormcentre:

"John is a good guy and an equally good judge. I am thrilled the assignment was given to him.

I am sure, if it goes to the cards, even in a lose fight, Johnny Mac will have the right man winning!

-Randy G."


Randy, in your opinion does John have the gumption to pull Mayweather up (and penalize him) for using the elbow, in a big fight like this?

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UrSuperHero:

why does chris deserve this ? why isnt he rematching pod? why he thinks he can punch an bs the public is shamefull.. he cant punch. why is this ppv ? thers no way in hell this fight is going to be exciting.. chris couldnt tie the shoes of any pac oponent cept rios.. clottey smashes this dude worse than manny will..

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kenhissner:

Are you out of your mind? To come back after being off for 2 years against the most feared fighter in all of boxing? Pavlik was my favorite fighter when he retired and today its GGG. No way would I want to see that fight.

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stormcentre:

I personally can't see anything but a mire clear cut win for Floyd this time round.

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The Commish:

"along with referee Kenny Bayless. Good for John. I remember John Mckaie and Tony Paolillo when they were trainers at the Lost Battalion Hall boxing club in Queens Ny. Bayless is a solid referee. No complaints about any of the officials for this card."

John is a good guy and an equally good judge. I am thrilled the assignment was given to him.

I am sure, if it goes to the cards, even in a lose fight, Johnny Mac will have the right man winning!

-Randy G.

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amayseng:

"I don't get why they don't do something like that. 1 on 1. Do THAT for charity. Don't know who would win.

Someone should bring that to their attention!"


Pac would whoop Floyd in basketball.

I would destroy Floyd in basketball. He does not have basketball coordination and skills.

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The Commish:

That loss in kickboxing was years ago. Chris Algieri did not have anywhere near the training, conditioning, skill or knowledge that he has now.

KTFO'd? He sure did get KRFO'd. But that was nothing compared to the face-down nap Da' Manny took just two years ago.

I recognize Pacquiao as an all-time great, a lock to make the Hall-of-Fame on his first year of eligibility. However, he's not getting any younger...or faster...or more skillful...or better...or stronger. He will be outreached in this fight by a quick and skillful boxer.

Pacquiao is a great fighter. On November 22, there may still be plenty of greatness left inside of him. If that's the case, he'll beat Algieri and just about anybody on the other side of the ring from him.

But ifr he's slipping, we'll know it early in the fight. In that case, it will be a long night.

A long one for Manny Pacquiao.

-Randy G.

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deepwater2:

Hector Camacho Jr had bought a annuity when he was fighting. He got $12000 a month every month I think.

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Radam G:

"Nice post! Thanks.



Yes, broadcasters always front the guarantee and recoup on the back-end.



As I explained in another post, Showtime just committed to doing it six times -- hence the "endorsement" nature of the deal.



And hence why it is IMPOSSIBLE for Showtime and CBS to lose money on that deal.



Puck what motherpuckers tell you -- they already recouped their investment and then some!



They can't lose money. Impossible. Can't happen. Fact. (I'll break it down in a piece very soon.)



But there's a big difference between a broadcaster's advance to the promotion/promoter and a promoter's advance to a fighter.



One is bound to the event, another locks you up to your employer.



Gigantic difference!



(Especially when dude shouldn't even be paying back those advances in the first place; they're back-end monies from satellite.)



Other than that, nice info about Ali's retirent. It's OK but far from the heights a guy like Ali should've been to financially.



Where did you get those figures and how was that retirement set up?



Man, if Magic can beat AIDS, they should be able to cure my man Ali!!



Does he still sign autographs nowadays?"




It a nice, true story about the GOAT nowadays and how he is really doing in a May or June issues of the AARP magazine/newsletter/website.



I know the figures and retirement sets up about the GOAT from being in the loop with the same business and estate lawyers myself. Also many boxers get the hook up of a retirement (investment) policies that will pay them a certain amount of money starting at a certain age -- usually 35-years old -- for life.



The Louisville 10 Group guaranteed by investing in young Cassius Clay that the GOAT would get a lifetime retirement paid to him in after-boxing years. A Philadelphia Group did the same thing for the late, great Smokin' Joe Frazier. A group of business men did it for Sugar Ray Leonard and a lot ofother fighters. A lot of these fighters, who get set up with after-boxing years retirement policies, hardly ever make mid-life comebacks.



Some commissions -- California -- even give pugs some retirement money after a certain age. "The Sweet $cience" has even written a story to alert retired Cali pugs and those pugs who had fought in Cali numerous times to holla at retirement moolah waiting on them. Holla!

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deepwater2:

If you were impressed with MM's endurance against little Floyd, then the first Castillo fight will have you awed. Castillo took Floyd's best jabs and swept the later rounds in their first fight. That's why HBO's Harold L scored it 115-111 for Castillo. If you thought Lara lost to Canelo then the result of this fight would of had you yelling fix. The compubox numbers help tell the story : 173 power punches landed compared to 66.

203 total punches compared to 157. 8th grade Cuban school was in session.



Jabs Castillo Mayweather

Landed 30 91

Thrown 129 297

Percent 23% 31%

Power Punches Castillo Mayweather

Landed 173 66

Thrown 377 151

Percent 46% 44%

Total Punches Castillo Mayweather

Landed 203 157

Thrown 506 448

Percent 40% 35%

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The Shadow:

I hear a lot of you say that if Maidana improves his stamina he can win.



I personally have never seen a man display greater stamina in a ring than Maidana did that night, with the possible exception of Manny Pacquiao.



He took some hellacious body shots in the first few rounds -- the same stabs in between flurries that sapped Shane Mosley completely after just two rounds -- yet didn't show any fatigue until round eight. It was remarkable.



I don't see how he can get any better in the endurance department? To me he looked so fit he could participate in Tour De France or the Ironman!

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Denise Alvarez:

Hell yes Maidana can beat Mayweather! He came pretty close the last time and if Maidana works on his endurance and stamina- he just might do it! The key will be to pace his self and bombard Floyd with his over right punches and whatever else he has. "THALE LA MADRE' A MAYWEATHER!

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Radam G:

Hey, Commish! It is a hole in your boat. And it is sinking. No hate about what you are hoping and thinking. Big Screen "Rocky" to C-Al, a lot of AmerKanos are linking. They have even hollered at Sylvester Stallone, and are trying to bride paid him to take a trip to Macau and possibly be in C-Al's corner. [FTR, Sylvester Stallone managed (Asian-African American) Aaron "Hawk Time" Pryor for a minute.)

C-Al is a scholar and gentleman, and all of that. So Da Manny is going to save punishing of C-Al, show a bit of mercy and put him to sleep early. In round five, I predict, because C-Al is going be bunny jumping, and rabbit hopping around and jive. Then all at once, he's going to be a deer caught in the headlights. KaPOW! KaBOOM! "Down goes American Bambi! Down goes American Bambi!

"Down goes American Bambi! Ain't no shame in his game. He will now be going to medical school. Gentleman-and-scholar Chris made plently of money for that and more."

Nothing but love for Chris. But the optical illusion of him beating everlast and bionic ought to double HALT! He's undefeated in Kickboxing with a *. And boxing too. No fault of his own, but some AmerKanos have made C-Al the biggest "Tar Baby" -- something from which is nearly impossible to extricate oneself -- in over a hundred years since they did it to James Jeffries. J-Jeff, himself, was also undefeated with an *. C-Al has an * in Kickboxing and in boxing. In Kickboxing, he got KTFO in team competition http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7aHx5wzIn0 and in pro boxing, we know what happening to him against tSR. Now to China, Team C-Al wanna bring Big Screen Rocky. WITFF?

C-Al is not rolling up in China and whuppin' up on an Asian Chinese Filipino. If C-Al can win, he will not be robbed. But it is no way, that he will not KTFO lay . Holla!

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teaser:

yup time for ward to cut his losses in court and take control in the court of the ring where he can give the judges that count in this game evidence they cannot ignore before father time enforces his rules on him

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The Commish:

"Algieri is an interesting fighter. It's great to see him interviewed here.

He has always impressed with his poise and intelligence. His comments in the ring following the Provodnikov fight were candid and his analysis seemed spot on. What was your overall sense of him, talking to him in person?"


That wasn't my article on Algieri, but I can tell you, as a Long Islander, as a member of the media and a friend of Chris Algieri, that he is every bit the gentleman he seems to be, and every bit of the warrior you saw against Ruslan Provodnikov.

To many, Algieri is not an entertaining fighter, because he is constantly on the move behind a pesky jab and two very quick hands. Those who don't like his style also find Guillermo Rigondeaux tough to watch.

Both in and out of the ring, Algieri knows what he's doing. He has a quick wit and a tremendous sense of humor to go with it. He answers questions honestly and to the point. He is loyal to a fault. Most of those who are with him now have been with him since his days as a kickboxer. They'll be in his corner in Macau, China, when he faces future Hall-of-Famer Manny Pacquiao.

I know I am in this boat virtually all alone, but I truly believe Algieri will outbox--and outpoint--Manny Pacquiao, when the two meet on November 22.

-Randy G.

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MCM:

Algieri is an interesting fighter. It's great to see him interviewed here.



He has always impressed with his poise and intelligence. His comments in the ring following the Provodnikov fight were candid and his analysis seemed spot on. What was your overall sense of him, talking to him in person?

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deepwater2:

Cotto is lineal for the time being but GGG is Rated # 1 at Boxrec with 989 points Cotto is second with 792.



1 Gennady Golovkin 989 30(27)-0-0



2 Miguel Cotto 792 39(32)-4(2)-0



3 Sam Soliman 716 44(18)-11(1)-0



4 Peter Quillin 627 31(22)-0-0

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Skibbz:

In the time they've had to prepare for this fight I hope they've improved on his stamina. It didn't last into the mid to late rounds which was disappointing.

Should they improve on that his chances will be much improved in my opinion, although that's not to say he will win..
To win he will have to do a lot more than he did the last time around. But it's not impossible, as RG said in another thread he's been there and done it before, this time the nerves should be calmer and the game plan improved..

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Skibbz:

Andre who??? Hahaha... What a slap in the face... Let's see what turn this saga takes next... Zzzzz

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Skibbz:

"The current middleweight champion is Miguel Cotto."



Miguel Cotto raided the 160 division at the right moment, swooped in got his 4th div title and will be out as fast as he came in. No, the real champion, the true king of the middleweights is the Kazakh fighter Gennady Golovkin.

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The Shadow:

"I quote.



The current MW champion is a little known Kazakh fighter with the punch of a mule, skill level of a future HOF'er and the drive and discipline necessary to accomplish any feat he so wishes to undertake. This man is hungry for success, he trains hard and has been from when he was young, amassing well over 400 fights to date, amateur and pro.



Against this dynamited fister stalker, Floyd Mayweather will have no hope of reaching the final bell. He is simply too small and does not possess the physicality to fight off what will be coming his way should these two pugilists dance together. If lesser fighters such as Maidana managed to win 4-6 rounds (although employing a different approach and style to the Kazakh) then you must understand, Floyd Mayweather will hit the canvas and will stay there on his back, unconscious.



Unfortunately, many do not know who this Kazakh HBO favourite is but his name will become known in the near future, and then comments such as yours will receive the due laughter they so seek to provoke. To state that Mayweather beats the current MW champion is a claim of the highest order and should be taken with a tonne or two of salt."




The current middleweight champion is Miguel Cotto.

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The Shadow:

"I wouldn't blame him if he believed in fairy tales ! Many boxers can only dream of fighting Mayweather, win or lose, of course winning would be better ! Maidana gets to fight him twice, so maybe he does believe in Santa Claus ! But if he wins the rematch, then I will believe in fairy tales too !"



Haha touch, Froggy! I love that comment, thanks. Keep posting!

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