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Radam G:

"Wow, sounds like Arias got a little burnt there and found out what was really expected of him in terms of "loyalty".

The next 6 months will be interesting in terms of what it means for TMT and all the termites running through all their member's and groupies' heads."


What people don't understand and is apparently not being informed about, is elite boxers, promoters and a lot of the media have big insurance regarding lawsuits. And since Money May kept up his installment payments, not a single penny is coming out of his pockets.

Those rotten Rock heads -- I mean Rahman brothers' -- pops Hisham Rahman know this. And I know that his informed his sons.

After Rahman beat Lennox back in the day, Rahman betrayed his promoter/manager and ran off to Da Don K for more in the rematch than by his then present manager/promoter. Lawsuit insurance that Rahman had came in dandy. The manager/promoter was paid nicely by the insurance firm. And Hi sham got he kayoed in the rematch and short-changed and out by the wolves by Da Don K.

Habitual lawsuiting pencil necks are down because of the insurance money, not boxers' money. More pugs don't have the type of money that you believe because of short-changed purses, bad spending habits and expenses for the team and hanger-ons.

There are optical illusions all up in the game's grill. Money May, advised by tsAH, has some mad insurance that pay off all types of syet. And beat the heck outta frivious lawsuits and/or make them settle cheaply. Holla!

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Radam G:

"This should be one heckuva fight.

In his last outing, Sadam Ali was off--terribly off. He blamed it on having starved himself in training because of Ramadan. If that's true. Ali has said this has been his best training camp. For him, hopefully it was. That's because Luis Carlos Abregu also had a fine camp.

This truly can be a show stealer, as well as a delicious appetizer for the main course.

Next weekend will be a fun night for boxing fans.

-Randy G."


Dude is a big-excuse-making liar. He is just playing people who aren't knowledgeable about Ramadan for fools. Amir Khan pull the same shenanigans.

The smart promoters know what it is and would not even match a weaking, starving fighter, who -- if he is doing that -- he is doing it in pure ignorant.

I'm not feeling the "World Kid" or Carlos Abregu. Holla!

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Radam G:

"As a point of reference the Shadow, how old are you?"

Age is exaggerated. My seven-year-old know more than a lot of 70 years old because he has seen more in real life and on film. Holla!

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Radam G:

Ditto the Commish. Holla!

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The Shadow:

"Never do I make that decision about still active fighters. But Money May will definitely be there. My top five ATGs are:
1. Barney "Boss" Ross
2. Flash Elorde
3.Bobby "School Boy" Chacon
4. Azunah Nelson
5. Kid Chocolate
Holla!"


Nice.

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Radam G:

Never do I make that decision about still active fighters. But Money May will definitely be there. My top five ATGs are:
1. Barney "Boss" Ross
2. Flash Elorde
3.Bobby "School Boy" Chacon
4. Azunah Nelson
5. Kid Chocolate
Holla!

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The Shadow:

Snarking the master snarker. I like it.

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The Shadow:

"As a point of reference the Shadow, how old are you?"

30 April 1. My age is inconsequential, however, because there's such a thing called "Google" for historical lookups should my memory fail me. I'm brain damaged, after all.

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The Shadow:

"As a point of reference the Shadow, how old are you?"

30 April 1. Why do you ask? My age is inconsequential, however, because I'm a walking, living encyclopedia of sports dating back to around 1914 and have been since I was around seven. Plus there's such a thing called "Google" for historical lookups should my memory fail me.

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the Roast:

As a point of reference the Shadow, how old are you?

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the Roast:

"Excellent, a mod who appreciates humor and doesn't fall in love with posts that have to be 30 paragraphs and use pendulum graphics....amayseng may have a chance to win something for once.."

Everybody will have a chance my brother. Every post will be considered, long or short. I did like those pendulum graphics.
Gibola got a prize during my last term and he doesn't stop by very often. Speaking of which, I wonder what happened to Grimm?

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amayseng:

Excellent, a mod who appreciates humor and doesn't fall in love with posts that have to be 30 paragraphs and use pendulum graphics....amayseng may have a chance to win something for once..

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The Commish:

Is it often that cards featuring both boxing and MMA are held in California?

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Our prayers to Phindile Mwelase and condolences to her family.

She loved the sport and gave it everything she had. She went out on her shield.

R.I.P. Phindile Mwelase.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

This should be one heckuva fight.

In his last outing, Sadam Ali was off--terribly off. He blamed it on having starved himself in training because of Ramadan. If that's true. Ali has said this has been his best training camp. For him, hopefully it was. That's because Luis Carlos Abregu also had a fine camp.

This truly can be a show stealer, as well as a delicious appetizer for the main course.

Next weekend will be a fun night for boxing fans.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Let's get ready to Bumble. ..or, us announcers--Mumble!...go ahead...sue me!

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The Shadow:

Should be fun. For the rest of you guys, winner will be announced tomorrow as there is still a day left to do some damage. Final flurries!

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Radam G:

And that is the way the sweat drips. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGOt8dZRsHk Holla!

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stormcentre:

Lots of interest in this one.

:)

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stormcentre:

".

Maybe they can pin their heavyweight hopes on 21-0 Lucas Browne?

As for Leapai, sorry, but he just ain't the one. His bark is bigger than his bite!

-Randy G."


Lucas Browne would probably KO Leapai – he could have done that to Toney in the final rounds of their last fight.

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stormcentre:

".





Either the fight showed that Scott indeed has some some boxing ability or that Leapai has none.



-Randy G."




Sadly and obviously, it's the latter - as you have rightly guessed and I have always suspected.



This is why, up until now, I have remained relatively quiet about Leapai.

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stormcentre:

"I was joking but some toady has to replace Ellerbe why not Love? He just got knocked out and will do whatever Floyd tells him.

What does Arias talking to Rahmans have to do with any lawsuits?

A video is out there with Arias confronting Floyd.Here is an article on it:

Following the heated argument, Arias spoke about what transpired in the video :

"Basically on Saturday night, I was at home sleeping with my baby. I received a phone call in the middle of the night from J'Leon Love, saying that I was about to get released from Mayweather Promotions. Mind you it's the middle of the night. I was like 'okay, until i hear it from Floyd's mouth I'm going to continue doing what I've been doing,'" Arias said.

"I went to the gym on Monday, Floyd is there and I was going there to work out," Arias continued. "I went up to him and said ‘what's up.' He said ‘what's up' and looked away. He was leaving on his way out to the gym and you can see in the video that I approached him. I felt that the way he handled releasing me was very unprofessional. How are you going to have someone that I've been cool with, since I was a kid, tell me some foul sh*t like that. I felt that was bogus."

"To make things clear, how are you going to release me when you don't have me on contract and I'm clearly the best fighter you got. You give me no explanation on why you're releasing me and I approached him. I said 'you're not going to say nothing to me, you're just going to ignore me.' I thought that was real foul. He owns the company and this is his show and I thought that was real foul."

"When J'Leon approached me, I told him 'this has nothing to do with you.' I just felt Floyd should have called me himself. He should have called me and said 'I'm mad at this, this and this and I'm going to release you' and then I can't say nothing. All I can say is 'Floyd, I respect you' and thank him for the opportunity. All I've done is thank him for the last two years. I've taken all these fights and not complained. I haven't always got the best opponents and I never complained. I should have been on TV and I never complained. I've been quiet and winning for him. I got the most wins for this company since the very beginning. I've been playing my role."

Arias then went on to explain that he attributes his release to his close relationship with the Rahman's, who are currently suing Mayweather over that infamous 31-minute sparring session.

"Honestly, I think it ," he said. "There is no other reason behind it. That has to be what it is... When I had no money, when I had no place to stay, when I had no food, when I was trying to find my way into the game - they was taking care of me. I'm literally a part of their family. I can't turn my back on them when they helped me when I had no food and Floyd wasn't even . That's what it came down to, my relationship with the Rahmans. I understand Floyd doesn't want me associating with them, but I can't turn my back on them. That is over something that I have no control over. That whole situation has nothing to do with me.""


Wow, sounds like Arias got a little burnt there and found out what was really expected of him in terms of "loyalty".

The next 6 months will be interesting in terms of what it means for TMT and all the termites running through all their member's and groupies' heads.

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the Roast:

Ready to rock and rumble EM! We can't say that other phrase or Micheal Buffer will sue us.

Looking forward to the next two weeks of build up and then aftermath of the matchup of the year and hopefully fight of the year, Kovalev vs Hopkins or Hopkins vs Kovalev if you prefer.

Lets send it back to the Shadow until tomorrow....

Back to you Shadow!

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Radam G:

Imma watch my pockets! Da dudes from the Windy City can confuse your mind. And take every dime off your behind. And darn comical them you will find. But it is all, the Roast is one of a kind. Let's GO, CHAMPS! Get ready to grind. Hehe! Holla!

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deepwater2:

Hopkins is going to have to stay inside and not give SK any room to punch.



Will the ref let Hopkins initiate the clinch?



Will Hopkins get away with fouls?



Will SK get penalized when he retaliates?



Those are the questions that I think will determine the winner.

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deepwater2:

The Roast is always fun

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flackoguapo:

"Have you guys ever been to one of these?

Not ever having been member of any of the alphabet soup organizations, nor much ofr a believer in any of them, I haqve been to exactly one of them. That is all I had to see.

Oh, it was fun, and I am sure I would have just as much fun if I attended every "soup convention" every year. But, for what purpose do I need to go?

Officials need to go. Judges. Referees. "Soup organization executives." Fans should also go to them, as so many of your favorite fighters and personalities--past and present--are often in attendance. But it's the officials who really need to be there. At these conventions, officials sharpen their "suck-up" skills. The more they suck up to the organization's president, the more he likes it. The more he likes it, the more assignments will be thrown his way.

The lone one I went towas in 1988. It was the WBC Convention in Mexico City. It was something like their 25th anniversary. Heavyweight champion Mike Tyson was there, looking heavier than I have ever seen him. He told me that he was 250. Uh-uh. Keep going, Mike. My guess was around 275. Amazingly, a few months later, Tyson was down to 218 for a title defense against Frank Bruno.

Don King was there, too. He was always with three people.

One of those people was Mike Tyson. King rarely let the 22-year-old heavyweight champ out of his sight.

Another one of the people King stayed close to was Jose Sulaiman. The WBC's El Presidente wielded humongous power, especially over the WBC ratings committee, and King always had Senor Sulaiman's ear.

The third person King couldn't get next to enough was me. Yes, me.

As Chairman of the New York State Athletic Commission, King looked at me as being the guy who could break the managerial contract between Tyson and Bill Cayton.

"Mike needs to be free from the grip of Bill Satan," King would bellow to me, then say, "Oh, did I say Satan? I meant Cayton."

To me, it was pure entertainment. Pure Don King vitriole, delivered and served as only DK could.

As I said earlier, officials need to be there. I actually saw two of my very own officials--one referee and one judge--scampering after El Presidente everywhere he went.

Once, while boarding a bus which took us to ancient Aztec ruins, Sulaiman stumbled on the steps heading into the bus. My judge was following so close behind him that he fell right on top of Sulaiman when the WBC boss went down. Now, THAT was being close to Sulaiman.

My advice to any of you who are looking to become a pro ref or judge--and want to work title fights outside of your own state--is to go to the dance. Pay the piper and go. Then take notes. Watch some of the veteran referees and judges, and watch their style. See them at breakfast with the "Soup organization's" President. See them at lunch with him. See them at dinner with him. See them at meetings and seminars, sitting with him. See them have photos taken of them with the President. See them taking "selfies" with the President. Watch them laugh when the President says something (even if it's not funny). Watch from afar (try to wear dark sunglasses, so you can make 'em think you're not staring at them!) as officials discreetly hand envelopes to the President, as well as to his executives. Gifts can be as important as "sucking up!" Remember the line from the "Godfather": "I don't ask much. I just want to wet my beak a little." If you help them wet their beaks you can rest assured you will get called to work some out-of-town and out-of-the-country title fights.

I saw my judge greasing some palms. It's not like I saw him do it a lot. In fact, I only saw him do it twice! I ended his judging career when we got back to New York.

With some practice, you'll be able to develop and work your own "suck-up style" into your week.

DO NOT LEAVE without letting the President know you are there. It's important he know. If you have to, force your way in. You may have to elbow your way past a lot of the others who are trying to suck up. Remember, if you don't do it, somebody else will! Do you want that next title fight, or do you want somebody else to get it?

Practice at home with some friends. Practice being overly nice. Nauseatingly nice. Consider it your training camp. You can't expect to go to these conventions and suck up like a pro if you've never done it before.

Practice! Work it! Tell them how great they look. Tell them you love their shirt (even though it probably doesn't match their pants!). Try googling some ideas. I'll bet if you ask Google "Ideas for sucking up and kissing butt" it'll have some unique ideas for you.

Be creative. Wear a Don King wig to breakfast. Make them remember you. Learn about the President's homeland. Tell him you and your respective other are planning a trip there soon. The President will probably say, "Call me when you arrive," as if he actually cares.

Good luck. Work it right and some juicy assignments will be coming to you. Remember, be pushy!

Lets us know how it goes.

-Randy G."


It seems like you love this sport so much ,Commish that you hate to bash it in any way but this is where it NEEDS to be EXPOSED and thank you. These favors and unspoken winky-face type behavior is the core of what makes boxing shady.

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The Shadow:

"Good points.

When I clicked on that link I was expecting someone different. Willie Monroe? $1 and lil Willy's opinion can get you a donut. Who cares about that opinion. Get some credible opinions. Ask some Hall of Famers their opinion. Ask guys at the top of the sport now and in the last few decades and get a consensus on who the best is. Sugar Ray Leonard is head and shoulders above Floyd. Speaking of head and shoulders,remember the Speed stick commercials? Hagler is head and shoulders above Floyd too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QeSGaWn7aQ

1988 Right Guard Sport Stick Commercial (with Marvelous Marvin Hagler)"


Don't matter who says it; he makes valid points. I posted it to Brownsugar because it was very similar to what he had posted in the post I repsonded to.

I think Willie Monroe makes some salient points. And if you want to get a great's take, I actually have screenshots on my phone from a Ray Leonard interview with Ring Magazine where he says something very, very similar.

In fact, most guys in boxing, championship level fighters, seem to heap this praise on Mayweather, many calling him the greatest of all time. It's mostly fans who throw stones at him, just like Monroe says.

Also, he was making a VERY good points that Pacquiao gets a pass but Stephen A. Smith will call for a boycott if he fights Amir Khan, a guy who would be favored to beat Chris Algieri by any unbiased observer and a guy who has done 10x in his career, amateur or pro, that Algieri. (This is something not even the most rabid hater would be able to dispute.)

And I like Algieri better than I do Khan, for the record.

It is what it is.

As far as your opinion on Marvin Hagler and Leonard compared to Mayweather, you're certainly entitled to that opinion.

I don't think Hagler's resume compares with Mayweather or even Pernell Whitaker but that's the beauty of boxing; the passion.

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Froggy:

Great commercial, deepwater2 ! My favorite boxing commercial I seen in my motel room the morning after watching Hagler Hearns in the Ceasar's Palace parking lot the night before ! Hagler is seen eating some pizza, he finally speaks saying " I wonder what he's eating right now, probably soup" ! I never seen it again !

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The Commish:

Have you guys ever been to one of these?

Not ever having been member of any of the alphabet soup organizations, nor much of a believer in any of them, I have been to exactly one of them. That is all I had to see.

Oh, it was fun, and I am sure I would have just as much fun if I attended every "soup convention" every year. But, for what purpose do I need to go?

Officials need to go. Judges. Referees. "Soup organization executives." Fans should also go to them, as so many of your favorite fighters and personalities--past and present--are often in attendance. But it's the officials who really need to be there. At these conventions, officials sharpen their "suck-up" skills. The more they suck up to the organization's president, the more he likes it. The more he likes it, the more assignments will be thrown his way.

The lone one I went to was in 1988. I had just become Chairman of the New York State Athletic Commission. It was the WBC Convention in Mexico City. It was something like their 25th anniversary. Heavyweight champion Mike Tyson was there, looking heavier than I have ever seen him. He told me that he was 250. Uh-uh. Keep going, Mike. My guess was around 275. Amazingly, a few months later, Tyson was down to 218 for a title defense against Frank Bruno.

Don King was there, too. He was always with three people.

One of those people was Mike Tyson. King rarely let the 22-year-old heavyweight champ out of his sight.

Another one of the people King stayed close to was Jose Sulaiman. The WBC's El Presidente wielded humongous power, especially over the WBC ratings committee, and King always had Senor Sulaiman's ear.

The third person King couldn't get next to enough was me. Yes, me.

As Chairman of the New York State Athletic Commission, King looked at me as being the guy who could break the managerial contract between Tyson and Bill Cayton.

"Mike needs to be free from the grip of Bill Satan," King would bellow to me, then say, "Oh, did I say Satan? I meant Cayton."

To me, it was pure entertainment. Pure Don King vitriole, delivered and served as only DK could.

As I said earlier, officials need to be there. I actually saw two of my very own officials--one referee and one judge--scampering after El Presidente everywhere he went.

Once, while boarding a bus which took us to ancient Aztec ruins, Sulaiman stumbled on the steps heading into the bus. My judge was following so close behind him that he fell right on top of Sulaiman when the WBC boss went down. Now, THAT was being close to Sulaiman.

My advice to any of you who are looking to become a pro ref or judge--and want to work title fights outside of your own state--is to go to the dance. Pay the piper and go. Then take notes. Watch some of the veteran referees and judges, and watch their style. See them at breakfast with the "Soup organization's" President. See them at lunch with him. See them at dinner with him. See them at meetings and seminars, sitting with him. See them have photos taken of them with the President. See them taking "selfies" with the President. Watch them laugh when the President says something (even if it's not funny). Watch from afar (try to wear dark sunglasses, so you can make 'em think you're not staring at them!) as officials discreetly hand envelopes to the President, as well as to his executives. Gifts can be as important as "sucking up!" Remember the line from the "Godfather": "I don't ask much. I just want to wet my beak a little." If you help them wet their beaks you can rest assured you will get called to work some out-of-town and out-of-the-country title fights.

I saw my judge greasing some palms. It's not like I saw him do it a lot. In fact, I only saw him do it twice! I ended his judging career when we got back to New York.

With some practice, you'll be able to develop and work your own "suck-up style" into your week.

DO NOT LEAVE without letting the President know you are there. It's important he know. If you have to, force your way in. You may have to elbow your way past a lot of the others who are trying to suck up. Remember, if you don't do it, somebody else will! Do you want that next title fight, or do you want somebody else to get it?

Practice at home with some friends. Practice being overly nice. Nauseatingly nice. Consider it your training camp. You can't expect to go to these conventions and suck up like a pro if you've never done it before.

Practice! Work it! Tell them how great they look. Tell them you love their shirt (even though it probably doesn't match their pants!). Try googling some ideas. I'll bet if you ask Google "Ideas for sucking up and kissing butt" it'll have some unique ideas for you.

Be creative. Wear a Don King wig to breakfast. Make them remember you. Learn about the President's homeland. Tell him you and your respective other are planning a trip there soon. The President will probably say, "Call me when you arrive," as if he actually cares.

Good luck. Work it right and some juicy assignments will be coming to you. Remember, be pushy!

Lets us know how it goes.

-Randy G.

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