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Radam G:

Until Team Da Manny's advisor the Canadian Shadow pops up declares that Kenducky Floyd Chicken is locked, loaded and ready to dance with Da Manny, don't believe the umpteen mirage stories. Holla!

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The Shadow:

"If this fight happens I will buy the Samsung 78" curved TV"

I'm bringing the Budweisers, brother.

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deepwater2:

If this fight happens I will buy the Samsung 78" curved TV

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Carmine Cas:

Bahahaha that was pretty funny, what's going on with Adonis Stevenson? He's wasting momentum.

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deepwater2:

"That was quite a flurry ! I hope the fight happens I think it would be a good one, it sure would make money !"



He pimp slapped the convicted pimp. tsAH might have to tug on the string that controls his puppet. Good one Leon.

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deepwater2:

"I will be watching (I hope a lot of us watch) on ESPN3.



-Randy G."




Cool. A great after Thanksgiving treat. I have Optimum what channel is espn3?

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Froggy:

That was quite a flurry ! I hope the fight happens I think it would be a good one, it sure would make money !

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Froggy:

That is music to my ears, Randy G !

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The Commish:

My sources tell me Marsa Bob, also known as the Bobfather, is ready to throw his Manny Pqcquiao in with Floyd Mayweather before Pacman takes a fight for "short" money (only a few million!) instead of tens of milions and loses. It's happened before. But, even with the big KO hung of Pacman by Juan Manuel Marquez, Marsa Bob and crew were able to resurrect the legendary Filipino.

There will be no more resurrections of Pacman. No more rebuilding. If/when he loses again, it game, set, match, career. Over. Then comes the five-year wait for the call to the Hall.

Marsa Bob knows it's time. The clock is ticking onm what may well be the final--annd biggest--PPV event of his Hall-of-Fame career, however he may be involved.

I have heard from very reliable sources that Al Haymon is working on a project which will change how we, as consumers and viewers, watch our favorite sport. It once was on free TV. Then the bigger fights went to closed-circuit viewing (movie theatres and halls). Next came PPV. The next stop will be Haymon's project.

Why do you think he has signed 200+ fighters? So he can have 200+ headaches?

Hell, no!

Al Haymon, a brilliant businessman, has a plan which will change the way we view the sport. Our love and passion for the sport will make Haymon, the fighters he signs and those around him rich. Very rich.

The Shadow has touched on Haymon's plan in Post #6.

Pacquiao-Mayweather (or Mayweather-Pacquiao , depending on which side of the fence you are on) will take place in 2015. I repeat, the fight WILL take place in 2015. There will be all kinds of percentage breakdowns and PPV percentage guarantees and bonuses according to the amount of PPV buys that will spin your head, and it will take a team of top-level accountants to figure all of that out as well as a few Tax Lawyers to sift through the piles of cash this fight willl generate.

But, when it's all said and done, and before the end of 2015, Manny Pacquiao will be in the ring against Floyd Mayweather.

I am once again a believer that it is going to happen.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

"Certainly not. From what I've seen of him in the gym and on video he seems like he's got a massive chip on his shoulder.. I could be wrong but it seems he's boxing as if to prove to someone else that he is able to, rather than doing it for the love of it. It's not a bad thing necessarily, but I get a sense that he's at war internally and that's going to take a toll in the long run.

Billy Joe is going to teach him a lesson!"


I will be watching (I hope a lot of us watch) on ESPN3.

-Randy G.

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The Shadow:

"The latest is that the payouts being proposed are 100mil to Floyd, 60mil to Manny.

Believe it when I see it. To me, we have seen this movie before and we know who dies at the end.

I still think that this will not happen. (Hope I am wrong)"


While that split sounds sound, unless they unveil their McMahon model, that Aussie report got the figures all fudged up.

It's almost absurd. It doesn't hit a billion unless they suddenly create a massive PPV market in China.

As you know very well, if and when it happens, they will/should be thrilled to net $125 million from domestic PPV, a revenue stream totaling about 80% of the pot. (Around 2.5 to 3m PPV subscriptions at an inflated price point.)

This would be a fun business case. I'm actually co-writing a curriculum for a new MBA course in Canada. I should put that in there just for sh*ts and giggles. LOL.

Here's something many aren't talking about: the reason Leslie might be rushing to make this deal could be the fact that in one to two years, PPV, as we know it, may cease to exist.

Imagine Haymon & Co. unveiling their OTT network to be launched with Mayweather-Pacquiao where fans can see The Fight, plus all PPVs for the rest of the year for a one-time sign-on fee of $49.95 and $19.95/month thereafter.

Or something along those lines.

If you're gunning for 3 million viewers, you could easily capture about 1 million subscribers from OTT alone with about 2m buys --via traditional PPV-- from the casual fans, the market that would be fueling this promotion anyway.

There is so much upside to this sh*t. But they only have one shot to do it right. So I doubt they're rushing anything.

Big Les would be crapping his pants. Even though CBS profits little from PPV, that PPV adds HUMONGOUS revenue on the balance sheet.

Gotta look good for the stake/shareholders.

On a different note, I wouldn't be surprised to see Stephen Espinoza resigning from SHO sometime in 2016. He misses his two BFFs.

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mortcola:

Brilliant article, Commish.



Gotta hand it to C-Al for taking the opportunity, and lord knows he worked hard in training. But the stuff he needed to not just win, but to put on a good show, be the fast-developing prodigy I and a lot of others thought he was, was replaced by grandiose illusions, slogans. He dd some good early defensive work, landed some clean leads.....and then I had this uh-oh feeling, even my wife who does not like boxing said it, Pac seemed merely annoyed. A guy stepping up that high that fast needs his punches to have some reality to them. Not just ego and a few slick moves. This is something that Radam makes clear in his own way.



So, C-Al, good on ya mate for taking the chance, and for never quitting....but if you're going to have a better legacy than this last fight, you need to prepare for true warriors who will have to worry about your weapons and what they can do. That's what's missing, along with the big E.

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The Good Doctor:

The latest is that the payouts being proposed are 100mil to Floyd, 60mil to Manny.



Believe it when I see it. To me, we have seen this movie before and we know who dies at the end.



I still think that this will not happen. (Hope I am wrong)

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The Shadow:

LOL that would be something, wouldn't it? Hahaha, "Bigfoot on tape..."

CC, I haven't heard anything at all but a bunch of conflicting rumors.

What I do know is that both Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao want it badly, though Mayweather has been somewhat nonchalant about it in recent years.

In the past few months, there have been offers thrown back and forth.

(As for rematch clauses, that indicates nothing, as you say. He's had them in contracts since he fought Shane Mosley. Plus, I heard as far back as 2011 from people in his camp that Floyd wanted Manny for two fights.)

But I also know that as a great a businessman as he is, Bob Arum is a vindictive, petty old man (just ask Randy) with a desire to be in command and a tendency to spin the truth.

Mayweather, on the other hand, is an entitled superstar with diva tendencies who refuses to be dictated to.

Arum is a boss. He likes to barge in a room, swinging his ****, to show who the gorilla in the room is. He cannot stand not being in command -- especially not with one of his former fighters.

This irks him. Trust me. Again, just ask the Commish who's felt the personal/professional wrath of the Bobfather before.

And with Mayweather, seeing as he's the undisputed top box office attraction, anyone who tries to even remotely dictate anything to him is a non-starter.

This is what I see: Bob Arum and Les Moonves are personal friends. They've met about this earlier this year, as well. While nothing official came of that, at least it's a positive sign.

Like Skibbz says, one can only hope. But we've been down this road too many times before.

In the past, like now, Arum was the one who was doing all the talking while Mayweather would remain silent. Inevitably, Arum would disrespect Mayweather. Nothing further would come of it.

They can say and do what they want. Until they get the principal in a room, I will remain skeptical.

But who knows, maybe they have?!

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deepwater2:

The shadow should met up with tsAH ,with a hidden camera and ask him some questions, and put it on here.

He will become a legend. It's like getting Bigfoot on tape.

With a billion dollar fight the boxing universe will come together and put on the pressure to make the fight. A billion $$$.

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Skibbz:

I think a great fight to see would be Thurman and Broner at 147, and in my opinion it wouldn't be hard to persuade Broner of his shot. Broner might not like fighting at 140 because of the restriction it naturally imposes on his diet and giving him that 7lb room might tempt his sweet tooth into the fight.. Not mentioning the money and hype this fight could generate.

Brook Thurman is one for the future, Brook would look to box Thurman and his shots would slowly take their toll but Thurman's got good skills himself and of course he's got the '1 time' power. I want to see that fight made, as much as Thurman facing Khan, Thurman facing Floyd.. Pretty much Thurman facing anyone, he's entertaining in the ring and seems to have a good head on his shoulders.

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Skibbz:

"I guess Eubank will never win "Mr. Congeniality" on that side of the pond--or anywhere else!

-Randy G."


Certainly not. From what I've seen of him in the gym and on video he seems like he's got a massive chip on his shoulder.. I could be wrong but it seems he's boxing as if to prove to someone else that he is able to, rather than doing it for the love of it. It's not a bad thing necessarily, but I get a sense that he's at war internally and that's going to take a toll in the long run.

Billy Joe is going to teach him a lesson!

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Skibbz:

Never lose hope..

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Radam G:

TC is going to be in a storm -- a punching hail storm. But I can see him making it through the night, and winning the fight. Dude gets hit a lot to be in such a top slot. Holla!

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stormcentre:

Apparently, a few months ago, Spadafora (whilst sparring) beat the bejesus out of Beltran and another top lightweight, whose name escapes me now.

I didn't see it, but I heard about it from a reliable ringside source.

Even aside from this, I'd still like to see Paul, or the Pittsburg Kid, get a shot at the/one of the lightweight titles out there.

Crawford doesn't get his hands back to cover his chin as much/fast as I would like if I were training him.

So, I won't be surprised to see Beltran catch or drop him.

But, not sure he will beat Crawford if Gamboa didn't - as I doubt Beltran would beat Yuriorkis.

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The Commish:

"I like the idea of Cooney training Chris, isn't Lane originally a kickboxer?"

Yes, CC, Tim Lane was a kickboxer. Also, according to the guy who introduced Tim to Algieri several years ago--Derek Panza--"Tim Lane was more about becoming famous and more about being a celebrity than he was about anything else."

Chris Algieri needs someone who can teach him how to throw punches with power, how to use his leverage and reach to his advantage, instead of throwing shots which wouldn't knock a cherry off of a hot fudge sundae.

Gerry Cooney used to throw missiles with explosive warheads attached to them. Check out that video Radam put up of Cooney knocking Ron Lyle out with wicked body shots (I was one of the ringside journalists in the video who Lyle falls on top of!). One of those warheads to the body broke two of Lyle's ribs.

Algieri needs to learn how to punch with authority. Obviously, his coaches have sadly lacked in that--and other-areas.

If it's broken, fix it.

Team Algieri is broken.

I believe Cooney would be a perfect fit and the perfect piece needed to fix Team Algieri.

-Randy G.

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Radam G:

"I like the idea of Cooney training Chris, isn't Lane originally a kickboxer?"

YUP! Dude had only five boxing scraps against softies, and still ended up being 3-2. Holla!

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brownsugar:

"Beltran is not the biggest puncher in the world, but he is a rough, tough hombre.



While rawford has a fast pair of hands and feet, Beltran has seen it before--he has served as a longtime sparring partner for Manny Pacquiao. However, he doesn't have the "sparring partner" mentality, where the fighter holds back after drilling his opponent with a stiff shot (if you knock the boss out, you become an ex-well-paid sparring partner!). Beltran knows his job against Pacquiao and gives him some rugged work, which is how Pacquiao likes it. But he also knows just when to pull back.



In actual competition, Beltran does not hold back. He makes up for his lack of a big bomb with a heavy work rate, a stiff jab and some nifty counter-punching. He is on an unbeaten run of five fights, stretching back to a majority decision in 10 over then over once-beaten Hank Lundy.



Beltran's last stoppage came against 40'ish loser Darien Ford, who fell in the second round and promptly retired. It was his seventh straight loss.



Beltran will not stop Crawford. His only hope is to outwork work him with constant, effective pressure and clean counter-shots. However, Crawford's hand speed, timing, accuracy and footwork make him a difficult target to hit with counter-shots.



Beltran's only hope will be to pour on pressure and hope to slow Crawford with body shots.



I see this going the distance in a fast-paced fight, with Crawford retaining his title by unanimous decision.



-Randy G."




You right about Beltran Commish ... He's teak tough alright...... His only downfall is his lead feet. I think if he stands in front of Crawford the way he stood in front of Hank Lundy and most of his opponents.... Beltran gets busted up, dissected and taken apart piece by piece.



Save me some crow if I'm wrong.

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brownsugar:

The problem with Keith is nobody wants to fight him from the Al Hayman stable or from Club Top Rank.
Not Bradley or either one of the suicidal kamikaze Kings: Brandon Rio & Ruslan Provodnikov.

Postol might if given the chance, however it doesnt help that Al and Bob aren't on speaking terms.(but let's not forget that Lomo and Russell did get made).

The other welters won't even utter his name in private. ( where's a former amateur highly decorated Russian when you need him??)

It has been mentioned in very low hush - hush tones that Kell Brook will battle the fearsome Floridian but of course this would happen only after he's dined on one or two of the requisite soft opponents most newly made champs seem to crave in order to solidify their status before diving back into the heart of the welterweight fray.

I gather Khan fits into that category as far as Brook is concerned.

But Thurman's opponents aren't all that bad... He's destroyed a few serious spoilers in between softtouches which is why he rarely gets the call from decent comp.

Incredibly the Brave Juan Manuel Marquez expressed some mild interest before being wisely councelled otherwise.

Regarding ROC Nation.... As soon as one notable fighter signs with the future Power House and word gets out what income bracket he just ascended to ... Overnight Available Fighters will flocking to their door.

But ROC Nation is all about putting on Blockbuster shows ( just like they put on BlockBuster Concerts)....its Not so much about the milking of career longevity.
The timid and protected need not apply.

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spit bucket:

What a pleasure it is to see that warm smile

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Radam G:

Dig how the man "G"GC got down with hooking and uppercutting off the jab. And his liver shot and armpit missile still cannot be match by any of the nowadays pugs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGhnW_TQFW0. Holla!

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Carmine Cas:

I like the idea of Cooney training Chris, isn't Lane originally a kickboxer?

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Radam G:

"The more I think about it, the more...



Also, the more I think about it, he and Cooney woulod be such a great fit. Cooney has already shown The Shadow some tricks, and that's been in the studio during a break!



Imagine what he could do with Algieri during a two-hour gym session!!!



-Randy G."




That is how da real real roll. In dat squared jungle, "G"GC will have C-Al able to monster stroll.



Holla how far back "G"GC's was whuppin' a superbad arse goes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-gvKlQzWKc. And I'm hollering about "G"GC whuppin' an arse of one of the slickest boksing defensive pugs of all time. Holla!

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Carmine Cas:

I like the fight, I'd give Pacquiao the edge due to experience and speed, but like Shadow I wouldn't be surprised if Garcia hurts Pac. That would be one hell of a fight and promotion.

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The Commish:

"The more Eubank runs his mouth the more the bookies will make. All the smart money is on Billy Joe, you only have to look at how they stack up and then you'll see how one sided it's going to be. Eubank will be taught a humbling lesson and will have to follow the traditional route. His dad's talked him into this fight and now he's going to be run out and down to the bottom of the pack. Will be a pleasure to watch!"


I guess Eubank will never win "Mr. Congeniality" on that side of the pond--or anywhere else!

-Randy G.

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