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the Roast:

Seems like a rudderless ship around here for the past few weeks. I never saw an official announcement that Storm was the Mod. Usually there is a post saying here is the new Mod. Not saying I have a problem with Storm, SC is a top guy and whatnot. EM, Dino, anyone paying attention out there? Who Necks? Who will be the next Mod?

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the Roast:

Did anyone beside George Foreman drop or stop Smokin Joe?

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the Roast:

I agree with the Good Doctor. Algieri has a shot to pull the upset. He is long and awkward and displayed toughness beating Provodnikov. Pac is old and fading. Bad style matchup for Da Manny. This will be a close fight with no knockdowns.

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Steve V.:

Just a quick point to Monte Cox -- whom I've read and enjoyed and even corresponded with occasionally --: take it for what it's worth to you, but I do not believe that Joe Frazier at his best would have beaten Joe Walcott on the night that Rocky won the title. And I really wonder if he would have caught up to the still dangerous and mobile Ezzard Charles. Frazier was a great fighter, but he had his faults and was not blessed with a Marciano-type set of whiskers. Steve V.

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the Roast:

Larry Holmes was right about Rocky.

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Carmine Cas:

"Hehehehe! Hey, TGD, you better watch that nurse. She sneaked some bad drugs in the cleaning water of your hands.

C-Al has no rhythm or rhyme. His dance is a bad version of the robot. He would be arrested on the dance floor, smacked upside da noggin and banned for life.

I wish I had some herbs and remedies to help him, but I don't. Three m is going to mug C-Al in Macau. If you think that Hulkquez put Da Manny to sleep badly. And Da Manny put "Slicky" Ricky Hatton to sleep madly. You ain't seen nuffin' yet.

Because of many Yanks' hate and stereotypes of Asians being Kung Fu junkies, against Da Manny, they still bet. Three m is going to put C-Al down like a very ill, suffering pet.

I've told you guys that C-Al has no boksing savvy or flow. He's like three types of winds that blow --- light, medium and heavy. The dude is topsy-turvy.

"


Topsy-turvy is a good way of illustrating how Algieri moves out after he covers up or throws a combination. He tilts his head to the direction of where he's going and his feet are still in the same place for a split second.

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The Shadow:

"Well, I started last Sunday at about a few hours before this time; so that's when I have finished - actually a good time after to be exact.

I thought it was 2 weeks.

Apologies if I have done something wrong.

Do you want me to take your complaint/objection to Dino?

Happy to do that, as I don't personally care who wins or who he pays."


No, no, no! I was just being facetious.

No complaints at all, you're one of my favorite guys and I have immense respect for you.

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The Shadow:

"You have got 2nd prize in the TSS forum contest though???"

Haha, I'm a competitor bro! I go for GOLD! :)

I've stated it before, I intend to pose like this at the end of the year:

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091203194247/himym/images/f/ff/Ted's_Apartment.jpg

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Carmine Cas:

"Yeah Shadow, I think Manny packs a harder punch than Ruslan !Tim Bradley, he of the iron chin, goes toe to toe with Ruslan, for some reason he does not do that with Manny ! He fought Manny twice, he never went toe to toe with hm, Manny hits harder and not one at a time, he hits from all angles and does not stand still compared to Ruslan I don't really see much of a comparison between the two ! Algeire will get a nice payday and nothing else !"

I do agree Bradley isn't the best barometer but he does provide some insight regarding the punching power of Ruslan and Manny. In the second half of Pacquiao-Bradley II, correct me if I'm wrong but Bradley was being foolish and looking to load up shots to nail Pacquiao with, not necessarily engaging "toe-to-toe" but he pretty much threw caution to the wind and swung for the fences. Manny easily evaded Bradley's poor strategy and made him pay. There was one point where Pacquiao had Bradley on the ropes and landed 9 or 10 consecutive punches. Bradley was hurt, but Ruslan bludgeoned him when they fought and hurt him far worse putting him down twice. Manny's power is derived from his unorthodoxed multi angular attack, the punches you don't see hurt the most. Overall though he has solid punching power but to the degree of Ruslan's

But that's pretty much where the similarities end, Ruslan is one dimensional and Manny is a more versatile boxer-puncher who is fighting smarter as grows older. Bradley had success the first half backing Manny up and even hurting him with his "pillow hands". Manny has problems with mobile fighters who utilize lateral movement, where it's a greater to task to successfully employ his angular attack. Algieri fits that mold but can he pull of the game plan against Manny who has a plethora of experience? Possibly, stay tuned!

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stormcentre:

"I thought we still had one more day, Storm! I got a late-round rally left in me, man!

Good choices though, Radam's been snubbed many a' times. Another notable omission is Felix from Brooklin."


You have got 2nd prize in the TSS forum contest though???

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stormcentre:

Well, I started last Sunday at about a few hours before this time; so that's when I have finished - actually a good time after to be exact.

I thought it was 2 weeks.

Apologies if I have done something wrong.

Do you want me to take your complaint/objection to Dino?

Happy to do that, as I don't personally care who wins or who he pays.

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Carmine Cas:

"We're in the minority, here, CC.



As I am calling for an Algieri win, I'm in a pool by myself on this great site.



-Randy G."




I foresee Algieri winning. And then when Manny and Floyd fight in the future, Floyd will blame the loss on the catchweight. Hahahaha. But I wouldn't put all my money on it. Pacquiao has become a smarter fighter, it's going to be interesting to see how he deals with the mobility of Algieri.

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The Shadow:

I thought we still had one more day, Storm! I got a late-round rally left in me, man!

Good choices though, Radam's been snubbed many a' times. Another notable omission is Felix from Brooklin.

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The Good Doctor:

"Hehehehe! Hey, TGD, you better watch that nurse. She sneaked some bad drugs in the cleaning water of your hands.

C-Al has no rhythm or rhyme. His dance is a bad version of the robot. He would be arrested on the dance floor, smacked upside da noggin and banned for life.

I wish I had some herbs and remedies to help him, but I don't. Three m is going to mug C-Al in Macau. If you think that Hulkquez put Da Manny to sleep badly. And Da Manny put "Slicky" Ricky Hatton to sleep madly. You ain't seen nuffin' yet.

Because of many Yanks' hate and stereotypes of Asians being Kung Fu junkies, against Da Manny, they still bet. Three m is going to put C-Al down like a very ill, suffering pet.

I've told you guys that C-Al has no boksing savvy or flow. He's like three types of winds that blow --- light, medium and heavy. The dude is topsy-turvy.

He's doesn't initiate or is proactive. He's reactive to every darn thing in dat squared jungle. In other words, like the old timers say: "he over thinks, he stinks, but he believes that he is smart. And he playing some type of ordained part. He should have not gotten an opportunity from the start. This is what happens when you give a gift to someone who has no skills, but a lot of heart."

Dude is being so tar babied that it is a shame. Boksing is not his game. WTF! Every Pac-hater and C-Al hoper -- probably dope smoker -- are talking about C-Al has a PhD in upset!

GTGOH! You will witness a massacre from Macau on your TV set. Holla!"


Radam, even if when I don't agree with you, your posts are absolutely classic. Your post made my head hurt, made me laugh, and put my tongue in a knot.

I get you guys point of view but here is why I think Algieri has a legitimate shot:

-Algieri is long and I mean real long. Unlike a dumb Margarito who never tried to back Manny off with his jab, Algieri will do so. Any boxing person in the know will tell you that if you have a reach advantage but not a speed advantage, your jab is your best friend.

-Most of Manny's success, especially recently, is against guys who stay in the pocket and are either square or straight forward fighters. Algieri will not give him a target at all because he will not be still. Some would argue that Bradley moved, but if you watch closely Bradley is often flat footed and very much within trading distance during their two bouts. Manny has not faced a guy that will run in more than 5 years.

-Algieri is flat awkward. I don't care who you are but anytime a guy is prancing around the ring like a pony, almost unrolls his jab and has no real rhythm to what he does, he becomes a task to prepare for.

-Manny has feints and angles and punch rhythms and arrays of combos for days. I would argue that Manny is the best combo puncher of the last 20 years(respect to RJJ, Shane Mosely, Marquez) That stuff is only effective if you get to use them. Algieri in no way shape or form will trade with Manny. We will not see many combos from either fighter.

-Manny can be hit. This matters because Manny's immaculate timing can be thrown off with a well placed jab or straight right. Hence why he struggles with Marquez. That is alot easier to do if you can do it from a distance which Algieri can.

So with all that said, my bold prediction is Algieri by split decision, 115-113 twice in favor of Chris. On top that, I will say that he will not even wobble Manny nor will Algieri get wobbled. On top of that there will be a rematch and Manny will KO him in 6 the second time around.

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stormcentre:

OK here are the TSS forum winners.

For the TSS forum;

a) First is RG; for a variety of reasons, including many great posts and also the fact that he is simply a relentless poster
b) Second is The Shadow; great posts and commitment.
c) Third is Skibbz; accurate and insightful publications, and also the great/confident prediction for Brook and then the explanations for this afterwards.

For the Boxing Channel forum;

a) First is The Commish; unique insight and excellent posts.
b) Second is Deepwater2; multiple posts on good perspectives on boxing and always a good read.
c) Third is Oubobcat; multiple posts with insightful boxing related thoughts and also too, always a good read.

I have said it in above posts and I’ll say it again, there are so many good posters here that the job of choosing winners is hard. Just when you think you know who they will be someone else posts something good that makes you rethink.

Anyway, there’s my list for both the TSS and the Boxing Channel forums.

Well done to all.

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Radam G:

In the batting cage. "Great style match up," in the words of C-Al will be a GREAT arse thrashing for him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T1jVc2hgvQ.

Watch what you wish for. You may just get it. Holla!

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The Commish:

"Thanks for confirming that this is another challenging matchup .... You gentlemen know your stuff."

Yeh, brownsugar. I've seen Walters several times. As good as Donaire is, he is going to have his hands full with the still-very-underrated Walters.

-Randy G.

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Radam G:

"I mean, why? Why?!



Lol if OJ -- who was found not guilty, by the way -- comes out and starts posing in photos with George Zimmerman, you're kinda asking for people to say something.



Or Juan Manuel Marquez -- who's never tested positive, for the record -- doing a pose down pic with Big Poppa Pump.



It's just like... Why? WHY?!



But it sure is funny."




Hehehehe! I would say those arses got away with murder from a foul, crooked justice system that care less about minorities and women.



Both O.J. and Georgie Z would be butt hurts and bloomers hand washers for Big Skillet and Lil' LeRoy if they would have gun down a white male spouse or white teenagers. The survey has already been taken, so don't come after me. The killers of white males pay. The killers of women and minorities court play. And getting outta of the syet, a court jury always give them a way. Holla!

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Radam G:

"Commish,



You shall not venture on this journey alone. I think Algieri actually dances away with a SD."




Hehehehe! Hey, TGD, you better watch that nurse. She sneaked some bad drugs in the cleaning water of your hands.



C-Al has no rhythm or rhyme. His dance is a bad version of the robot. He would be arrested on the dance floor, smacked upside da noggin and banned for life.



I wish I had some herbs and remedies to help him, but I don't. Three m is going to mug C-Al in Macau. If you think that Hulkquez put Da Manny to sleep badly. And Da Manny put "Slicky" Ricky Hatton to sleep madly. You ain't seen nuffin' yet.



Because of many Yanks' hate and stereotypes of Asians being Kung Fu junkies, against Da Manny, they still bet. Three m is going to put C-Al down like a very ill, suffering pet.



I've told you guys that C-Al has no boksing savvy or flow. He's like three types of winds that blow --- light, medium and heavy. The dude is topsy-turvy.



He's doesn't initiate or is proactive. He's reactive to every darn thing in dat squared jungle. In other words, like the old timers say: "he over thinks, he stinks, but he believes that he is smart. And he playing some type of ordained part. He should have not gotten an opportunity from the start. This is what happens when you give a gift to someone who has no skills, but a lot of heart."



Dude is being so tar babied that it is a shame. Boksing is not his game. WTF! Every Pac-hater and C-Al hoper -- probably dope smoker -- are talking about C-Al has a PhD in upset!



GTGOH! You will witness a massacre from Macau on your TV set. Holla!

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brownsugar:

Ditto ...PAC had Bradley..Rios, Margarito, Mosely and Clottey hurt at least once in his past five fights... There is no question he can still punch. The only question is ...
Does he have the motivation?

PAC isn't going to let anybody else get a gift decision. If he sees his chance I think he'll go for the merciful stoppage. Instead of a punishing twelve round drubbing.

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The Shadow:

"Yeah Shadow, I think Manny packs a harder punch than Ruslan !Tim Bradley, he of the iron chin, goes toe to toe with Ruslan, for some reason he does not do that with Manny ! He fought Manny twice, he never went toe to toe with hm, Manny hits harder and not one at a time, he hits from all angles and does not stand still compared to Ruslan I don't really see much of a comparison between the two ! Algeire will get a nice payday and nothing else !"

I believe the man, he's an honest guy.

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Froggy:

Yeah Shadow, I think Manny packs a harder punch than Ruslan !Tim Bradley, he of the iron chin, goes toe to toe with Ruslan, for some reason he does not do that with Manny ! He fought Manny twice, he never went toe to toe with hm, Manny hits harder and not one at a time, he hits from all angles and does not stand still compared to Ruslan I don't really see much of a comparison between the two ! Algeire will get a nice payday and nothing else !

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brownsugar:

"I mean, why? Why?!

Lol if OJ -- who was found not guilty, by the way -- comes out and starts posing in photos with George Zimmerman, you're kinda asking for people to say something.

Or Juan Manuel Marquez -- who's never tested positive, for the record -- doing a pose down pic with Big Poppa Pump.

It's just like... Why? WHY?!

But it sure is funny."



My long deceased grandpappy had a saying whenever he saw something that stood out in a conspicuous manner. ......."Now if that don't beat all?"
Sure its corny but its appropriate.

And could someone please tell me .... Who let all the air out of Bonds torso?.
Where did all those cepts and pecs go?

With Manny standing next to the poster boy of PED's
Don't take it too personal when the jokes start flying.

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teaser:

"Commish,



You shall not venture on this journey alone. I think Algieri actually dances away with a SD."




the difference is in the mobility of Manny compared to Ruslan dance though he may Chris is in for a beating too many angles ,feints and when he gets caught Manny will finish him .just hope Manny doesn't get to friendly with the guy and so not want to hurt him and let him off the hook :confused:or figure he can box with this tall kid he's got to be aggressive

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The Good Doctor:

Commish,

You shall not venture on this journey alone. I think Algieri actually dances away with a SD.

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The Shadow:

"We're in the minority, here, CC.



As I am calling for an Algieri win, I'm in a pool by myself on this great site.



-Randy G."




I see a toss-up. I would slightly favor Pacquiao based on experience and surprisingly impressive in-ring IQ for a guy who used to have very little.



Froggy, do you think the current Pacquiao packs a better punch than Provodnikov?!



Tim Bradley himself, who's one of the few to take punches from both, says no.



Provodnikov is heavy-handed. That means he can hurt you with one shot.



In order to hurt Chris, who has quite the dog in him, Pacquiao has to connect with consecutive clean shots on the defensively adept Algieri.



I doubt that happens.



I see a surprisingly close fight with closely contested rounds (kinda like The Moment) in which Manny gets the nod by a relatively comfortable margin.



The decision will leave people talking like they got something to smack (talk).



But as usual, nothing will come out as they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish, mother******* will act like they Forgot About Pac.

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The Shadow:

I mean, why? Why?!



Lol if OJ -- who was found not guilty, by the way -- comes out and starts posing in photos with George Zimmerman, you're kinda asking for people to say something.



Or Juan Manuel Marquez -- who's never tested positive, for the record -- doing a pose down pic with Big Poppa Pump.



It's just like... Why? WHY?!



But it sure is funny.

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Radam G:

Dang, Coxs Corner! You came blitzing with it. The truth should not be that mean. I'm still ducking for cover. You straight up hurt the feeling of believers of fairy tales. Tearing out the guts of history is a muthasucka. But that is how it goes. And optical illusions are everywhere.



Last month ArneK snitched out truths about the late, great "Brownbomber" Joe Louis. And now you just killed the legend of Rocky M. Blood and guts are over the metaphoric squared jungle. I got to vomit -- urrrkrrrrrrrmffj!



Can we get a warning next time. What long-past legend of yesteryears will be put under of the blood-and-gut bucket challenge next?



I don't wanna know. Holla!

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The Shadow:

"As a bonus and to get everyone in the proper fighting spirit they can have Nelly sing the national anthem."



In Air Force 1's, of course. UH, OH!

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brownsugar:

As a bonus and to get everyone in the proper fighting spirit they can have Nelly sing the national anthem.

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