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The Commish:

"Klitschko came back very well from a rocky start to his career with a lot of help from the same guy Lennox Lewis went after suffering two knock outs, Emmanuel Stewart !"

Emanuel Steward was a genius at spotting a fighter's strengths and weaknesses. Shortly before Wladimir Klitschko was stopped by Lamon Brewster, Steward said to me, "Wladimir makes a terrible mistake of dropping his hands after he throws punches. A guy with fast hands and power is going to capitalize on this."

Then it happened.

Then Klitschko hired Steward. He hasn't lost since, keeping the principles Steward taught him. He was able to do that because he is a structured, disciplined warrior. I don't believe Mike Jones, with his distrusting, scowling, "I-don't-need-your-help" attitude, will be able to do the same thing.

I am sure he'll return, but another Thomas Hearns he'll never be.

Not even close.

-Randy G.

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The Shadow:

"The list of illiterate boxers could fill up a twenty foot legal pad .....in small print.



During elementary school I could barely read aloud myself due to being slightly dyslexic and having a profound stuttering problem.



But I always got picked to play Romeo in drama class because I was a dead ringer for an up and coming entertainer known as Michael Jackson.( the pre-facelift, adolescent version)

The only thing I hate worse than reading Shakespeare is reading Shakespeare aloud.

The man was a genius ...I just couldn't comprehend.



Later in life I overcame the stuttering and slow-reading by reading tongue twisters every day and reading ye old king James bible out loud... Later I overcame my fear of public speaking by joining the spoken word poetry slam for therapeutic reasons.



Mayweathers problem is fairly common and is even easier to correct ....



But personally all Mayweather needs to read for me is read Maidana's overhand right...his hook to the liver and when to use the elbow to block the headbutts.



And most importantly when to read the opening for the uppercut and lead right..



Just roughly three weeks away now...can't wait."




I want to see your poetry slam so bad. I probably told you this before but when I was living in Hawaii, I would go to this weekly poetry slam that's supposedly the biggest in the nation. Or so they said. But it was phenomenal. I loved it.



And yes, read the overhand right he must. But it is so hard to decipher, so hard to comprehend. The delivery is tough to fathom, a nightmare to anticipate, its data tough to retain.



While he will certainly read the openings for the lead right and turn the page for an uppercut, when you consider the sick reflexes of Mayweather (and Broner), why is it that that overhand right is such a tough text to decode?



You know your stuff, B-Suge, and no one can explain it with more vivid imagery than you.



Why does that punch work?!?



PS I gotta see a picture of you looking like Michael Jackson. I got to.

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Froggy:

Klitschko came back very well from a rocky start to his career with a lot of help from the same guy Lennox Lewis went after suffering two knock outs, Emmanuel Stewart !

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mortcola:

Radam is right on - right is right. Jones has been a fan's disappointment, but I feel for the guy. As TSS house shrink, barring any neurological problems, I see a fighter who has lost belief in himself, the grandiosity - self-hype - that adds layers of fire and sheer will to combat-readiness, the belief that the tools in your box will WORK, that you can TAKE IT and push through....how many superior athletes in the ring have had their day in the sun cut short because they never reconciled being mortal with being a bad-*** SOB with will power and a sharpened razor. But here's a Doc Mortcola exception that proves the rule: Wladimir Klitschko. Hot shot giant with monster power and athleticism falls prey to anxiety the first few times someone bum-rushes his gate, and instead of becoming a car salesman or lost cause drunk, he re-tools his technique and learns to control his anxiety - no one has even shaken that "questionable" chin since the first Peter fight, and he's lost less than a handful of rounds in years. Forget whether you think he's boring - he fixed what failed to function, and became what he was truly capable of being. Mike Jones might learn a lesson there - a man must be have the courage to re-define himself when the first script fails. Maybe, just maybe, we see a Major Makeover and a second coming. I always liked the kid, but like Radam, i thought he was riding a wave that couldn't last. But the raw materials an fundamentals are there.

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Radam G:

"My ALS Ice Bucket Challenge has been up since Tuesday afternoon. If I can figure out how to put it on TSS, I will. Otherwise, I will show it to you at SiriusXM on Friday. Meanwhile, you can also check it out on Facebook. I am "Randy Commish Gordon" on the social media site.

In fact, I challenged Gerry Cooney, who did it...He then challenged Larry Holmes, who did it. Holmes challenged Don King, whom we haven't heard from. Oh, I also wrote out a check to ALS.

-Randy G."


No way Da Don K is taking that challenge. He's not going to mess up his guy wig. Holla!

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Radam G:

"Good man! The $ donation is the most important part. Just saw Matt Damon do the challenge using toilet water. I wonder if Manny P will take up Chris A's offer?"

Da Manny took the offer. Holla!

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deepwater2:

"My ALS Ice Bucket Challenge has been up since Tuesday afternoon. If I can figure out how to put it on TSS, I will. Otherwise, I will show it to you at SiriusXM on Friday. Meanwhile, you can also check it out on Facebook. I am "Randy Commish Gordon" on the social media site.



In fact, I challenged Gerry Cooney, who did it...He then challenged Larry Holmes, who did it. Holmes challenged Don King, whom we haven't heard from. Oh, I also wrote out a check to ALS.



-Randy G."




Good man! The $ donation is the most important part. Just saw Matt Damon do the challenge using toilet water. I wonder if Manny P will take up Chris A's offer?

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brownsugar:

The list of illiterate boxers could fill up a twenty foot legal pad .....in small print.



During elementary school I could barely read aloud myself due to being slightly dyslexic and having a profound stuttering problem.



But I always got picked to play Romeo in drama class because I was a dead ringer for an up and coming entertainer known as Michael Jackson.( the pre-facelift, adolescent version)

The only thing I hate worse than reading Shakespeare is reading Shakespeare aloud.

The man was a genius ...I just couldn't comprehend.



Later in life I overcame the stuttering and slow-reading by reading tongue twisters every day and reading ye old king James bible out loud... Later I overcame my fear of public speaking by joining the spoken word poetry slam for therapeutic reasons.



Mayweathers problem is fairly common and is even easier to correct ....



But personally all Mayweather needs to read for me is read Maidana's overhand right...his hook to the liver and when to use the elbow to block the headbutts.



And most importantly when to read the opening for the uppercut and lead right..



Just roughly three weeks away now...can't wait.

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Buzz Murdock:

Rubio's moment of glory was against then undefeated, David Lemiux---after that it's been all downhill...He hardly threw a punch against Chavez Jr. going down to ignominous defeat. Just another showcase fight for Golovkin.

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The Commish:

"When I arrived at the Sirius studios Monday afternoon, one of the first things I heard about was this ALS Ice Bucket Challenge where people challenge one another to pour ice water on their heads (or make a donation) to raise awareness for the disease.

Apparently, our one and only Commish had been dared to pour the water on his bionic noggin'!

Not one to shy away from a challenge, Mr. Gordon with his charming self goes on the air and starts talking smack.

"I am doing the Ice Bucket challenge tomorrow (Tuesday)! I challenge Gerry Cooney, Deontay Wilder, Mike Tyson, Prince Charming, Mahatma Gandhi and Charlie Z!"

Off the air, he even threatened to challenge yours truly!

He announced he would post it on his Facebook. So I go on there.

Nothing.

Hmm.

So I text the man.

"What up with dat ice, my dude?!"

"Plenty of ice!" Commish responds. "Antarctica ain't got **** on me!"

(Or something to that effect.)

So I come home late, LATE from late-night roadwork, shadow boxing and a pickup game with some wise-*** New Yorkers that couldn't handle that Shadow heat to check the Facebook once more.

Again ... Nothing.

Here we are, Wednesday night, inching close to Thursday morning.... and still nothing!

Which begs the question...



Did The Commish chicken out?!

Did he not want that work?!?

Fill us in, Randy! I wanna see that ice!"


My ALS Ice Bucket Challenge has been up since Tuesday afternoon. If I can figure out how to put it on TSS, I will. Otherwise, I will show it to you at SiriusXM on Friday. Meanwhile, you can also check it out on Facebook. I am "Randy Commish Gordon" on the social media site.

In fact, I challenged Gerry Cooney, who did it...He then challenged Larry Holmes, who did it. Holmes challenged Don King, whom we haven't heard from. Oh, I also wrote out a check to ALS.

-Randy G.

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stormcentre:

Short of an unexpected KO at the hands of Kovalev as a result of Hopkins gassing and/or not being able to play the system, rules and referee for a break and/or more time (I think it’s a fair caveat considering Bernard’s reputation and age); I’m not going to be surprised to see Hopkins baffle and frustrate Sergey in order to win on points.

Kovalev’s never faced a guy that’s as hard to time and hit cleanly like Hopkins – let alone one that’s not only a (influential) part of the promotion – but one that will also (and perhaps with impunity) easily and happily both foul and disrupt Kovalev’s rhythm.

Whereas for Hopkins, Kovalev represents nothing he hasn’t seen before. I am not even sure if Kovalev has fought a guy that will deliberately send him mixed messages and screw around with his ability to (try and) understand his opponent’s timing; like Hopkins will do to Sergey.

All B-Hop has to do is control the tempo of the fight and the rest will fall in place; including the dismantling of Sergery’s biggest singular asset – his power.

And to do that Hopkins has his above-mentioned skills, plus his elusiveness, defence and, of course, that “Old Skool” Philly style.

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brownsugar:

Lol good one Shadow.....RG

.....what about the fire challenge, the pass-out challenge, and the train track challenge? and the condom challenge (suck up a condom through your nose and spit it out through your mouth but make sure it hasn't been used).

There's a groundswell of support for a new movement among the youth that I like to call "JackAss Nation"

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brownsugar:

"Hi Everyone.

There is still a few days to go, but this is just a little note to let everyone know;

1) I will post the results for the above here in this thread on Sunday.

2) I have been reading all your posts.

3) There are so many good writers/posters here that it is (genuinely) a pleasure to be a part of the TSS "in crowd". I usually read (almost) all the posts on this site anyway, but over the last few weeks (due to this obligation) I have read a little deeper into your posts and I must say there has been some very well thought out and insightful posts about this great sport; from BrownSugar, Amayseng, Shadow, RG, Skibbz, The Commish, Dino through to the Good Doctor, The Greyman, Grimm and Oubobcat (sorry if I missed anyone notable out).

Good stuff.

Storm.

:cool:"


Thanks for the mention Storm.

I haven't been posting nearly enough to even be in the running but I agree that the quality of posts here is getting better every day.

I look forward to seeing the other members receive their just due..
Keep up the good work.

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oubobcat:

One of the many reasons I like this fight so much is that there are so many varying opinions amongst those who know the sport as to who will win and how it will play it out in the ring. There are many different possibilities as to which direction this fight will take when that opening bell rings. We are going to have a lot of discussion on this in the next couple months and I for one can't wait until November 8th.

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Radam G:

"I'm picking Hopkins to dominate Kovalev. The only way I see Hopkins losing this is if Kovalev forces him to look his age and Kovalev lacks the tools to be able to do that. Sure he has power but how many fighters with proven power has Hopkins already dominated?. Kovalev is nothing new to Hopkins while Hopkins is something completely new to Kovalev and his biggest step-up to date. Of course, a one punch KO shouldn't be ruled out because anything is possible in our sport but I simply can't see it happening, especially not from Kovalev who's vastly overrated."

Ditto! I'm riding shotgun with cha! Holla!

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Scar:

I'm picking Hopkins to dominate Kovalev. The only way I see Hopkins losing this is if Kovalev forces him to look his age and Kovalev lacks the tools to be able to do that. Sure he has power but how many fighters with proven power has Hopkins already dominated?. Kovalev is nothing new to Hopkins while Hopkins is something completely new to Kovalev and his biggest step-up to date. Of course, a one punch KO shouldn't be ruled out because anything is possible in our sport but I simply can't see it happening, especially not from Kovalev who's vastly overrated.

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amayseng:

I think IR is a good idea between rounds for reviewing a suspect knockdown/trip or even a cut to see if it came from a headbutt or cut.

These scenarios are crucial and can determine who is really winning or wins a fight.

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amayseng:

I agree BFF, I have said for months that KK has fantastic timing, spacing, he does not load up, his balance is always solid and he is consistent in going to the body and head mixing it up. His Defense is solid as well, he uses a good jab and has a full arsenal of punches at his disposal. He is as well rounded as I can expect from a killer.

If he has any deficiencies it would be his foot agility. However, the only test he has been given of recent was of Sillah, who has quick feet and agility and KK timed him and got him out of there impressively.

This is a great matchup.

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Scar:

Going slightly off-topic here, I just hope the rest(WBC/IBF/WBO) don't follow the WBA's disgraceful "World" and "Super" title approach.

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amayseng:

body, body and more to the body for the first 4-6 rounds and never anywhere else.

Slow down those legs, beat up that body and the head will be there late.

Dont push your punches, dont load up, short and sharp, body, sides, when Floyd turns and shoulder rolls to his right then you hit him in the back on his left.

This is the way to slow Floyd down. Head hunting is a waste of time.

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Scar:

Good thread!. I'm looking forward to Martinez-Frampton the most. This is a huge step-up for Frampton and Martinez is a beast.

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Scar:

"If the fight happens, I'm calling a crushing, disturbing KAYO for Sam Soliman. The state of Mississippi should be tried for cruelty to the disabled. JT has been disagnosed with brain damage. In more states, he would not be allowed to come within smell distance of a squared jungle. Holla!"



Fully agree, which is why I have picked Soliman to win this fight ever since it was announced. As a long-time fan of Taylor, I'll definitely be rooting for him but I sure as hell am pissed he's allowed to resume his career. Both the commission and IBF are corrupt.

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Scar:

Maidana's only hope in this fight is if Mayweather decides to fight stupid and stand flat footed for Maidana's pleasure. This isn't going to happen and I expect Mayweather to use more movement in the rematch than he did in the first fight.

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stormcentre:

"
All in all, I'd say Maidana knows his best, if not only chance, is if he can bait Floyd into fighting stupid, staying on the ropes, exchanging, which gives him the best opportunity to land telling blows. I do not think baiting Floyd into fighting a tactically foolish fight will work, and Chino will need an assist from Father Time, big-time, to get the W.
"


Spot on.

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BFF:

I am going out on a limb here and my money is on the krusher. I personally think his boxing skills are way underrated, because he does have plenty of it, and has the power to back it up, which usually over shadows those subtle boxing skills he utilizes to set up his power shots....

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Radam G:

What will be the next challenge? Money!

C'mon, "The Money Train" and Money May. Dump a few hundred dollars over you guys' big-@$$ heads, and donate that moolah to a worthy cause. Holla!

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Radam G:

Check out these challenges: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYPjLF8Uews. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrOc4YPxv8U. Holla!

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Radam G:

Hehehe! Wow! The heck with that "Ice Bucket Challenge," Imma hit up on some Asian bigwigs to do a Rice Bucket Challenge. I ain't trying to get a brain freeze. Holla!

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The Good Doctor:

Gimmie Frampton-Martinez. Their first fight was extremely competitive until Frampton caught Kiko with a clean shot to the noggin in the last third of the fight(9th round?). It looked like Kiko was coming on at that point and may take the fight until he got dropped. I expect alot of activity in this one but I do expect a different result. I think Kiko wil keep his guard a little tighter this time and wear Frampton down.

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DaveB:

I'll go with Hopkins all day long on this one. I like Kovalev as a person and fighter. I like him because he will fight anyone and he seems to be a likable guy. He has devastating power no doubt but like most power punchers he is overrated as far as boxing skills. He will come up against something he isn't prepared for. He always has a punchers chance but Hopkins already has him over thinking. He said I'm not looking for the knockout. And that is a good thing because Hopkins will psychologically destroy him like he did the others. Defensively Bernard will have an easy task and he knows not to underestimate. Hopkins has problems with volume punchers. This guy is just a puncher, puncher. The mind games will start shortly and Hopkins is a master at that. He would reduce Mayweather to a crying brat so Kovalev is in way over his head. Hopkins is Kovalev's worst nightmare except this will not be a dream. Hard for me to see Kovalev knocking him out or getting an honest decision over him.

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