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ultimoshogun:

As much as I'd love to see Maidana repeat his performance against Broner and really challenge Floyd, I just don't see it happening. Maidana's offense will be assimilated by Mayweather in one round..from then on I'm expecting a shutout.

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Radam G:

The Hurricane was an innocence man wrongly convicted. His abili was air tight. I'm with the song about him by the great musicman that song his arse off about it. Holla!

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Radam G:

"It's one thing to dance around your opponents inside the ring, but I will never accept it if it's done outside of the ring. Whether or not people have done it in the past makes it no better or right for someone to do it in the present or future.

We have one voice, and one mind so there's not much we can do to change the views of the many who live in our era unless we get in the limelight. But for the billions that follow us in future generations, opportunities are there to show them a different path. When you are in a position to do that and you simply do not it's not agreeable with me.

At the end of the day, RG until he fights the one or two other guys close to or on par with him... I won't offer him recognition as the best ever. But you're right, what does that matter to him? When I was a sportsman, it didn't matter to me who thought what of me, so long as I knew in myself that I was the best and I acted accordingly. My problem is that Floyd does the first part... but not the latter."


I read you loud and clear. But there will always be Floyds, Jacks, Joes and a lot hoes. Hehehe! And they ain't gonna get down never and no how with danger to comfort fans or critics. Holla!

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Skibbz:

"Seldom in the history of boxing have the "best ever" fought the truthfully other best ever of his era. Lil' Floyd is among many greats in doing what he is doing. The one that quickly keep coming to my mind is the late, great Sugar Ray Robinson. He didn't step up and fight the best around. But he's often called the greatest pug to ever live by many earwitnesses and film eyewitnesses.

No matter how you shake it or make it, Lil' Floyd is going down in the annals of boxing as one of the greatest ever. He is a prizefighter, not pridefighter, fanfighter or the likes. Making fans and critics happy is the last thing he wants to do on his list of things to do just above being sick or dead. Holla!"


It's one thing to dance around your opponents inside the ring, but I will never accept it if it's done outside of the ring. Whether or not people have done it in the past makes it no better or right for someone to do it in the present or future.

We have one voice, and one mind so there's not much we can do to change the views of the many who live in our era unless we get in the limelight. But for the billions that follow us in future generations, opportunities are there to show them a different path. When you are in a position to do that and you simply do not it's not agreeable with me.

At the end of the day, RG until he fights the one or two other guys close to or on par with him... I won't offer him recognition as the best ever. But you're right, what does that matter to him? When I was a sportsman, it didn't matter to me who thought what of me, so long as I knew in myself that I was the best and I acted accordingly. My problem is that Floyd does the first part... but not the latter.

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Radam G:

"The Good Doctor, you are so right about Holmes' jab. Let me take it a few more steps. That jab was the best in heavyweight history. Yes, the BEST. It had speed and awesome power.

Larry also had a champion's set of cojones. How manytimes was he dropped/rocked by bombs, and came fighting back? The right by Renaldo Snipes. The uppercut by Mike Weaver. The special rounds against Tim Witherspoon and Ken Norton.

Yet, because of one moment, one dumb moment when he put his mouth into gear before engaging his brain, so many fans turned away from him forever.

You may not love the guy, but he truly is sorry for what he said.

And, like it or not, he was among history's greatest heavyweight champions.

-Randy G."


His best comeback was the night that he got monster blasted down by Earnie Shaver. I still don't know how he got up, but for the fact that he had/has double champion cojones.

His biggest flaw was that he didn't move his big-@$$ cranium. For a great heavyweight champion, he is aight. But boxing journalist Murray is half right about who he fought. Holla!

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Radam G:

"Yet he's the best ever and refuses to fight those other champions around him. 18 years and we haven't seen the best of him... but wait a short while and we will see the last of him.. For his legacy to still live on he needs to fight those other champions, so he isn't remembered for making the most $, but can truly be acknowledged as the best ever."

Seldom in the history of boxing have the "best ever" fought the truthfully other best ever of his era. Lil' Floyd is among many greats in doing what he is doing. The one that quickly keep coming to my mind is the late, great Sugar Ray Robinson. He didn't step up and fight the best around. But he's often called the greatest pug to ever live by many earwitnesses and film eyewitnesses.

No matter how you shake it or make it, Lil' Floyd is going down in the annals of boxing as one of the greatest ever. He is a prizefighter, not pridefighter, fanfighter or the likes. Making fans and critics happy is the last thing he wants to do on his list of things to do just above being sick or dead. Holla!

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Skibbz:

Yet he's the best ever and refuses to fight those other champions around him. 18 years and we haven't seen the best of him... but wait a short while and we will see the last of him.. For his legacy to still live on he needs to fight those other champions, so he isn't remembered for making the most $, but can truly be acknowledged as the best ever.

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Skibbz:

"While it's true that $$$May has not fought anybody with Maidana's style, the only guy Maidana has fought who remotely resembles $$$May in style is $$$May-wannabe, Adrien Broner. Maidana will quickly find out that his pressure tactics, while they worked on Broner, will be virtually useless against $$$May.

The fight will be competitive and interesting. But as I sit here writing this 10 days before the opening bell, I cannot envision Maidana pulling out a victory. Not by KO, not by TKO, not by decision.

-Randy G."


C'mon Commissioner you reckon this is competitive??? At least you envision no way for Maidana to do the full job because I don't either, I don't think anyone truly does.

He's going to get disheartened when he see's Floyd is no Broner. Floyd will attack early with fast, crisp shots from different angles and ranges. When Maidana, as he has been taught in prep, fires one or two in retaliation they'll catch the wind and nothing else. Repeat this over the course of 8 rounds and you'll have a tired slugger, with a supreme athlete now looking to pick some shots and drop him. A Floyd KO is very plausible with Maidana disheartened from not even finding the door to put his foot in.



On another note, Floyd has recently been saying he feels his recognition will come after he leaves the sport. I don't fail to recognise his incredible achievements, but I fail to acknowledge his greatness as a fighter if he does not make the best fights out there. Fighters fight to be called the best ever, and the best have to fight eachother..


@Roast I think one reason why people praise Hopkins and not Mayweather for that style is because of the difference in attitude outside of the ring. Floyd does not portray the most likeable personality.

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The Commish:

The Good Doctor, you are so right about Holmes' jab. Let me take it a few more steps. That jab was the best in heavyweight history. Yes, the BEST. It had speed and awesome power.

Larry also had a champion's set of cojones. How manytimes was he dropped/rocked by bombs, and came fighting back? The right by Renaldo Snipes. The uppercut by Mike Weaver. The special rounds against Tim Witherspoon and Ken Norton.

Yet, because of one moment, one dumb moment when he put his mouth into gear before engaging his brain, so many fans turned away from him forever.

You may not love the guy, but he truly is sorry for what he said.

And, like it or not, he was among history's greatest heavyweight champions.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Exactly, Deep.

After his last fight--against Alexander Povetkin--in which Klit initiated the astounding amount of 171 clinches in 12 rounds, I knew it was time to bring the curtain down on the younger Klitschko, who is a huge draw in Germany and a huge bore to American fans. He is so much of a bore that I am surprised ESPN is even bothering to show what should be a blowout for Wlad.

I guess that's because they are following this fight two weeks later with what should be a very interesting battle between Bermane Stiverne v Cris Arreola for the vacant WBC Heavyweight Championship. The winner will then make his first defense later this year against Big D--Deontay Wilder.

It was just Easter. With the upcoming Stiverne-Arreola fight and with Bryant Jennings v Mike Perez coming up, boxing is now celebrating its own version of Easter--the heavyweight division coming back from the dead.

-Randy G.

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ultimoshogun:

I was a big MMA follower for several years. Not so much UFC, but the Japanese promotion, PRIDE FC. To me that was the better brand of MMA, and if PRIDE was still around I'd most likely still be following the sport. It will be interesting to see where MMA is ten years from now...I check out Bloody Elbow from time tot time and lately it seems like UFC is losing steam. Like amayseng says, they haven't been producing new stars and what used to be fighters who brought their own unique styles to the table has become the same cookie cutter style since they have to cross train every discipline nowadays. The fans are also tired of Dana White putting on mediocre PPV's and selling it as "the most stacked card ever." Last weeks free event on FOX was their lowest rating to date. I won't be surprised if Zuffa sells the UFC in a few years.

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The Commish:

Ah, Bernie's back!

-Randy G.

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dino da vinci:

They moved our start time, so I'll make my point now.

I live in Las Vegas, and happen to attend very few fights.

I hate to fly. If I landed in Beirut I would be looking for reasons to stay as so not to have to get back on a plane.

Me: Look, it's not so bad! (As a projectile whistles by my head).

But if they announced Rocky Marciano was fighting Evander Holyfield on a distant planet, and I secured a ticket with just enough time to get there, I'd let a drunk cabby with an eye patch rush me to SpaceX, put me on an intergalactic flying apparati that was heavily duct taped, and tell'em 'mush!'

One of boxing's perfect match-ups. Would the Rock win them all? Of course not. But if they fought every Tuesday he would win more than his share.

Nowhere did it say he had to have been a former Cruiserweight champ. Like people say Burley was arguably the best ever even though he never fought for a title, or Ezzard Charles was the finest Lt-Heavy ever even though he never won that particular crown, I'll take Marciano and give you the field at 190.

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oubobcat:

I remember very vividly how I get hooked on boxing.

When I was a kid, indoor soccer (I know, follow the story) was very big in Cleveland. I was a huge fan of the Cleveland Force and they used to play at the old Richfield Coliseum. My dad would take me to games there but it was quite a drive so he liked to go when they ran some sort of promotion. Well in January 1988, they were running a promotion showing the Tyson-Holmes fight after the game. My dad figured he could make a night of it and he was getting a bargain getting to watch the fight as well so took us kids out to the game that Saturday night.

The Richfield Coliseum drew a good crowd for these soccer games but was absolutely packed for this promotion. I honestly don't remember much of the soccer game. But as a kid was amazed at the atmosphere in the arena when the fight was getting ready to begin. I watched and cheered along with everyone else. I still remember the fight like it was yesterday. I was hooked at that moment and when I got home that night wanted to watch more boxing (could have cared less who was fighting). Of course, there wasn't any on at that time but afterwards I began watching any and all boxing that I could.

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Bernie Campbell:

Lemieux? top Stevenson? Whua? Absoluteley Ludicrous! No wonder Watson appeared to be indulging in the sauce the other night! MFs eyes were like red neon lghts! looked like too much no doze!

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The Shadow:

"Dino started writing his response on the iPad with 3% life left, went to 2%, evidently didn't like what I was writing and quit taking my response with it. So, I 'll reply here, and get back with my thoughts in the evening.

RM, 49-0

Without a doubt."


Dino, I'm curious...

You're obviously a boxing historian/encyclopedia. What/when/how/why exactly did you get hooked?

Actually, I'd like to know what got the rest of you guys hooked as well.

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The Good Doctor:

"Larry will always be great in my book. One of the best jabs I have ever seen. It was not cool to bad mouth The Rock but hey these things happen. Larry is a great businessman that owns a big part of pennsylvania and never hit a grandma in a mugging and never beat down a wife. His jumping over a car to get to Burbick will always put a smile on my face."

Larry Holmes was one of the few fighters that had a jab that was more than a punch to work off of. Larry could snap that jab off your face and daze you. I think that is one of the most disrespected parts of him.

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dino da vinci:

Dino started writing his response on the iPad with 3% life left, went to 2%, evidently didn't like what I was writing and quit taking my response with it. So, I 'll reply here, and get back with my thoughts in the evening.

RM, 49-0

Without a doubt.

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dino da vinci:

"While it's true that $$$May has not fought anybody with Maidana's style, the only guy Maidana has fought who remotely resembles $$$May in style is $$$May-wannabe, Adrien Broner. Maidana will quickly find out that his pressure tactics, while they worked on Broner, will be virtually useless against $$$May.

The fight will be competitive and interesting. But as I sit here writing this 10 days before the opening bell, I cannot envision Maidana pulling out a victory. Not by KO, not by TKO, not by decision.

-Randy G."


Interesting like the Ghost and Canelo were interesting?

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The Commish:

While it's true that $$$May has not fought anybody with Maidana's style, the only guy Maidana has fought who remotely resembles $$$May in style is $$$May-wannabe, Adrien Broner. Maidana will quickly find out that his pressure tactics, while they worked on Broner, will be virtually useless against $$$May.

The fight will be competitive and interesting. But as I sit here writing this 10 days before the opening bell, I cannot envision Maidana pulling out a victory. Not by KO, not by TKO, not by decision.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Great post, Shadow. Great post



-Randy G.

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jzzy:

"One of my inside guys at Robert Garcia's gym tells me Maidana is looking absolutely terrific in training...says he thinks he is in better shape now than he was when he fought and beat Adrien Broner.



The fight plan will be to try and make $$$May uncomfortable & and take him out of his fight plan (which, of course, nobody has successfully done). Miguel Cotto was the last guy who truly attempted to do that. While he didn't win, he certainly showed the vulnerability in $$$May.



As Maidana is sparring in preparation for this bout, shouts of "rough him up" come from his corner. You know that's exactly what they want Maidana to do to $$$May. When boxing's top PxP fighter goes back to the ropes, they want Maidana to blast away at his biceps, his forearms, his shoulders, his hips, his body. Lean on him. Make him push Maidana away again and again. Don't box him. Brawl with him. Maul him. Make him rumble. Round after round.



Make him feel the way Joe Frazier made Muhammad Ali feel in the "Thrilla' in Manila." Frazier was prepared to die that night. So was Ali. Maidana has to go in with the same mindset. Will $$$May have the same mindset? Has he ever? Does victory mean THAT much to him?



If Maidana brings the gameplan he has been training for, and couples that with the warrior's attitude we think is inside him, we'll find out just what kind of warrior $$$May is.



Eventually, every fighter has to show us how deep he can dig to pull out vbictory. Will May 3 finally be the day when $$$May shows us if he truly owns a warrior's heart?



We're getting close to the opening bell!



-Randy G."




Maidana will give a good effort, he's young and tough with the great Latin fighting heart, but too slow. Mayweather is too smart and experienced, he's seen

it all and is still dedicated so I expect a boxing clinic with Money two steps ahead of El Chino.

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The Commish:

One of my best friends--Chuck Minker--was one of the three judges for the Holmes-Witherspoon fight. He scoredit 115-113 for Holmes. Judge Chuck Hassett had it big for Holmes, I believe 118-111, while a third judge,Herb Santos, had it 115-114 for Witherspoon.

I was ringside for the fight. I scored it exactly like Minker--115-114. In 1990, I was in Las Vegas for a commissioner's convention. At one point, I sat back with Chuck and watched the entire fight again. Some rounds we watched multiple times. Each time, Holmes won won the fight. Our scorecards were identical. They were the same on the night of the fight.

Larry Holmes won that fight. It was close. It was two-sided. It was competitive. It was controversiall.

But Holmes won it. He deserved to win it.

-Randy G.

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The Shadow:

"I dig how you can always come up with the actuality of the reality. Solid stuff. Holla!"

Thank you, Radam

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The Shadow:

"It's a gimmick to sell fights!!!!! You're not on the inside!!! I hide in plain sight like radam!!!!!!! C'mon man"

Lol do you really? Are you in Vegas? I'm not an insider per se, I just go to the gyms and ask questions if I'm in town for big fights rather than just sit around.

But yes, it's a gimmick for sure. These shows follow a script.

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ArneK.:

And Dino keeps us in suspense. Are his initials S.L.? If not, E.C.?

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ArneK.:

Yes, bad-mouthing Marciano with Rocky's relatives sitting nearby was very disturbing. It was as if he had insulted the Pope. But I could understand Larry's frustration. Who among us hasn't blurted out things in a fit of anger that we wish we could take back? Take away that moment and I can't think of another incident where Holmes acted like a jerk. I think he was/is a credit to his sport.

What I liked about Larry was that even at the height of his fame he was very approachable, very down-to-earth.

Deepwater2 alludes to Holmes' real-estate holdings in the Easton area. One of the buildings he owned was leased to the local police department. In a radio interview several years after he retired, I asked him what he was most proud of. He said "I believe I'm the only black guy in America that owns a police station."

That gift decision that Dino mentions. The reference is obviously to his fight with Tim Witherspoon. I was there and scored the bout a draw. It was a debatable decision, but I wouldn't necessarily call it a bad decision. Witherspoon had only 15 fights going in. Agree with it or not, there's a rule of thumb -- or was in the old days -- that one should lean toward the incumbent in a title fight if there's some doubt about who was the better man. I think that's what happened and I'm fine with it.

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oubobcat:

I think Guerrero's career was ruined by Grady Brewer. He has not fought with any confidence since the knockout loss. In his last fight against Gatica, he was almost taken out early. Lemiuex is being showcased here by Showtime in part because they need some Middleweight contenders and he will deliver with a spectacular knockout.

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deepwater2:

Remember the good ole days when boxing skills and knockouts sold fights? Que "The Times They are Changing" song. Times may change but skills will always remain timeless. The other stuff is just noise. Focus on the signal, not the noise.

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deepwater2:

I love my DVR. Shannon Briggs may be out of his mind and desperate for a payday but I have to agree with him when he told Leapai he is a bum. Hopefully Leapai can pull a Corrie Sanders or a Brewster. I think Leapai was handpicked by K2 because Klit can't really clinch this guy to death, Klit can stay at the end of his jab and drop bombs on him. If he clinches this guy the mans face might be in Klits cup. knock this guy out for goodness sake Klit.

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Beibut Shumenov

SD R12

Shawn Porter

Paulie Malignaggi

TKO R4

Peter Quillin

Lukas Konecny

UD R12

Scott Quigg

Tshifhiwa Munyai

TKO R2

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