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Radam G:

Hehehe! My Tio Mamoy said that the Showtime and company's PPV counting crew are some soaphead bums and then in Spanish he said: "La casa del jabonero es toda un resbaladero" -- The house of a soap maker is a slippery place."

In other words, these ____ _____ _____ are slippery with bringing the true. And you might need to wash their mouths out. Holla!

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Radam G:

"Oh well the so called source( Espinoza aka john smith) might be wrong. ESPN Spanish station is reporting 700,000 which is a dud."



And that is how it is. An English-speaking liar breaks out with the BIG LIE. And in all other languages, you hear the actuality of the reality. But you are looked upon like you are scum hating "the A-side fighter" of the fanboys and groupies who have gone off on the fly with the first, quick lie. Holla!

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SouthPawFlo:

I was thinking somewhere between 700-750,000 myself...





I guess we gotta wait for the "Offical" numbers to come out

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deepwater2:

Oh well the so called source( Espinoza aka john smith) might be wrong. ESPN Spanish station is reporting 700,000 which is a dud.

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SouthPawFlo:

The Reason I'm asking 4 PPV numbers is because, I myself think that 925,000 number for this fight seems a little bloated, but I wanna compare the preflight "hype" of this fight to another fight with "comparable" numbers.. And also, I think that Canelo is a bonafide star but idk him as the A Side of a promotion is ready to compete with a Mayweather fight.

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The Good Doctor:

"Has TGD been in the lab experimenting with some chemicals of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde? Or perhap some herb of the good doctor and the Wolfman?

WARNING: Quit doing it. Hehehe! Holla!"


Ha Ha Ha!!! Radam, thank you for proving my point.

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Radam G:

"You are 100% right. I am not sure you could put one together because the topic is so subjective. In addition we have guys that have seen fights from the 50's (maybe even earlier) up until now who have great logic as to their opinion versus guys who are enormously adept at describing the present day fighters of the sport.

I will not throw around the word impossible, but I think we would have a hard time of even getting a remote consensus on more than maybe 2 or 3 fighters.

However, it would be interesting to see what we came up with as a group.

For example, and maybe I am starting crap by doing this, Roberto Duran and Floyd would not sniff my top 30. De La Hoya would not make my top 100."


Has TGD been in the lab experimenting with some chemicals of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde? Or perhap some herb of the good doctor and the Wolfman?

WARNING: Quit doing it. Hehehe! Holla!

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Radam G:

"Ok now I have two questions:







What was the last Non Mayweather fight to Top 900,000???





What were the numbers for Canelo's two PPV fights this year????









Don't worry I'll wait..."




You got your mind made up. So I have no credibility with you. Just Google it. And or ask TSS's The Shadow or the Commish. No matter what truths that I post, you are going to turn them into burnt toast. You are heavy with it. Of the man luv for my boy Money May, you have the most.



I gotta hit da pit and take a sleeping nap. And for all of your man luv for Money May, I clap. Hehe! http://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=MKLGTDH7io8. Holla!

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The Good Doctor:

"From what I have been reading here, if TSS did a list of the top ten of all time it would be unlike most others !"

You are 100% right. I am not sure you could put one together because the topic is so subjective. In addition we have guys that have seen fights from the 50's (maybe even earlier) up until now who have great logic as to their opinion versus guys who are enormously adept at describing the present day fighters of the sport.

I will not throw around the word impossible, but I think we would have a hard time of even getting a remote consensus on more than maybe 2 or 3 fighters.

However, it would be interesting to see what we came up with as a group.

For example, and maybe I am starting crap by doing this, Roberto Duran and Floyd would not sniff my top 30. De La Hoya would not make my top 100.

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Radam G:

"Mark Johnson!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!"

Go and holla at "Too Sharp." He was a bad, super-smooth,wrecking'arse mofu. And the first African American Yank to hold the flyweight crown, meaning that he was a pioneer like Jack Johnson being the first black to hold the heavyweight crown.

Too Sharp was so sharp and wrecking arse with it, that the late, great Johnny Tapia, Danny Romero and the P4P ATG Ricardo "Finito" Lopez avoided him like the Black Plague. Holla!

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Radam G:

"Any list that doesn't include Henry Armstrong isn't much of a list."



The "Swarmer" is at the bottom of my list of top of 15. He simply got too many gift decisions.



He once got a decision over one of my great, great, great uncles that was so bad that the powers that be had to change the decision to a draw and send in state troopers to rescue the referee -- the only scorer back then -- from the angry crowd. The fans wouldn't let him outta da squared jungle. I syet you not.



Another one of my great, great, great uncle shut down the Swarmer from winning the fringe NYSAC middleweight crown. Tio Celly -- Ceferino Garcia -- Bolo-ed the Swarmer at will. And you know the rest of the story: A big lie that the Swarmer was robbed with a draw and woulda, coulda, shoulda held world titles in half of boksing eight divisions at the same time.



Against my uncles, the swarming Homicide Hank was officially 1-0-5. But in the actuality of the reality, he was 0-6-0.



Boksing history is full of well-crafted fibs and optical illusions.



Did HHA even hold three at the same time? Holla for yourself.



Between phonyness about Sugar Ray Robinson and fibs and opitcal illusions about how many title belts at one did "Homicide" Hank Armstrong hold, dudes and dudettes be trying to rough-and-tumble me bulljive fantasies about them. And I ain't havin' it. Holla!

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Kid Blast:

Mark Johnson!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!

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Radam G:

"I'm all for hard sparring. I got thrown in there way too early too and came out stronger for it. It is part of it. I can tell you right now if we had filmed the brutal sparring and the authorities found out we opened the gym after hours and saw the people that watched and what we were doing our faces would have been in the paper. One guy was called the tooth fairy because his job was to find any loose teeth and put them in ice water.



The most important thing is don't video it or get caught. If you put it out there and the authorities don't do anything then they will lose their job after being deemed useless or corrupt.



Derek Jeter is the man because he will never ever get caught in public doing anything controversial."




Hehehehehehe! Ev'ybodee and dey momma got jokes now up in the Universe tonight -- P-Islands's time.



"One guy was called the tooth fairy because his job was to find any loose teeth and put them in ice water...."



Now that was funny as a muthapucka and 90 comedians and Billy Crystal. Holla!

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Radam G:

"Ask The Shadow. Right after that episode of All Access, we discussed it on my show. Everything they do makes a mockery of the very existence of the Nevada State Athletic Commission. I heard from my friends up there that they had no idea these things were going on, and now they are going to do something about it.



Remember, their new Executive Director, Bob Bennett, is a retired Special Prosecutor for the FBI. Floyd Mayweather and his crew of miscreants have effed with the wrong guy. If you do that stuff, you do it in private, not in front of the Showtime cameras.



I have a feeling Bob Bennett is going to come after Floyd, his promotional license and the license of everybody else who was seen in that All Access.



You think Marcos Maidana gave $$$May a tough fight? Just wait!



-Randy G."




He ain't gonna do Jack or Jill, or climb up a hill. And they are all full of bullsyet. I think that he has probably been to the gym. And he is just another created crook, who in Money May, he will not put a single hook. The FBI still has a bit of the residue of J Edgar Hoover. And it might be all up in Bob Bennett's ____ ____. Hehe!



Your friends suffer from severe inattentional blindness. It is no way in Sin City, that boksing power-knowing dawgs and hawgs don't and didn't know da haps at the Mayweather Gym. For years, TV cameras from around the globe have televised da haps like ABC used to do "Wide World of Sports.



Hahahaha! Hey Commish, tell your pals in Cali and the P-Islands to stay away from the Wildcard Gyms because YOU NEVER KNOW what may be going on.



Messing with the Mayweather Gym is a grab for attention for those who frustrated with not getting enough. Holla!

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deepwater2:

I'm all for hard sparring. I got thrown in there way too early too and came out stronger for it. It is part of it. I can tell you right now if we had filmed the brutal sparring and the authorities found out we opened the gym after hours and saw the people that watched and what we were doing our faces would have been in the paper. One guy was called the tooth fairy because his job was to find any loose teeth and put them in ice water.



The most important thing is don't video it or get caught. If you put it out there and the authorities don't do anything then they will lose their job after being deemed useless or corrupt.



Derek Jeter is the man because he will never ever get caught in public doing anything controversial.

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brownsugar:

Postol is all wrong for Mattysse.... Decent boxers can get by Mattysse with a contraversial win. (Judah, Alexander) Good boxers beat Mattysse (Garcia). Postol may be an unknown commodity, but he's a far better boxer than Mattysse has been in the ring with in quite a while.
And let's not forget that Selcuk was a strong welterweight so don't look for Postol to be overwhelmed.

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Froggy:

From what I have been reading here, if TSS did a list of the top ten of all time it would be unlike most others !

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Skibbz:

"Is Al Haymon hypnotizing his guys or something, fighters fight their whole career to become a world champion, they dream about it when they are in the amateurs and Al just got guys giving away Belts!!!


First Quillin and now Possibly Garcia?!!!"


Ha.... Made me chuckle I think you've got a serious point SouthPaw.

@Oubobcat I've watched Postol since his first 12 rounder. At that time I asked a friend of mine who knows the Russian scene inside out and he told me Vik P was a strong amateur with 220 W's but not amongst the best of the best. His performance was impressive although the opponent admittedly was not up to par however game. Since then he's beaten a string of good boxers, tricky fighters and fighters with some real toughness. Fighting Americans in the States hasn't fazed him and at 29 (I believe) he is ready to embark on the biggest fight of his career.

He's tough, as with all taller fighters they can be clipped by looping shots but this isn't something new to him and he has for as long as I have watched him been able to keep shorter and stockier adversaries at arms length where he prefers them to be. The power isn't phenomenal but hard enough to keep you at bay - you can't eat them all night without getting marked up pretty bad. He's also game which is great and will help him against Matthysse.

Matthysse will have to fight past the long reach of Postol. Postol is extremely adept at keeping a shorter opponent at bay and if he's focused and doesn't get dragged into a slugfest with the banger he should have a good chance, better than Matthysse for my money. Now i'm not saying Postol is the new king of the division, not by a long shot, but if he sticks to the right plan he has the beating of Matthysse. If he succumbs to the pressure, freezes and loses focus at any point it will be Mattyhsse who will be crowned the new world champ.

Either way now with the cotton wrapped champ is looking to vacate the division let's hope we get some good fights for the strap...

Also would anyone be surprised if Broner Matthysse fight it out? Is that a possibility? Someone please inform me.

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brownsugar:

Actually with Rock Stars and Rappers lighting up on stage. An elected official admitting to smoking pot (Clinton) without inhaling. And 85% of Hollywood advocating the legalization. of pot..and Two of cable TV's Highest rated Shows ; "WEEDS" and "Breaking Bad" having been embraced by mainstream America its not even safe for an elected official to oppose the use of pot.
Ask Arnold!!!
Personally I can't smoke it but those who do and those who display smoking it have little to fear.

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kelseym:

My typical list is as follows.



1. Ray Robinson

2. Joe Louis

3. Henry Armstrong

4. Harry Greb

5. Roberto Duran



That's P4P Top Five. I include only modern age to guys like Bob Fitzsimmons are not included but are tops in their own era and probably any other.



As for Mayweather, I think he has trouble with any of the following at welterweight: Robinson, Leonard, Hearns and Duran. I can't decide who is the biggest nightmare for him, Hearns or Duran. Both have cases. I think prime Henry Armstong would wreck him, too. That isn't to say Mayweather isn't great. He is. But he's not up there with those guys. If you want to overrate someone of this era, it should be Pacquiao. His wins over Barrera, Morales and Marquez are better than any Mayweather has, and his welterweight prime in 2008-10 was unbelievable for someone who started out so small. Moreover, his thrashing of Bradley this year is better than any win Mayweather has since he moved over to Showtime.

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The Shadow:

"Is Al Haymon hypnotizing his guys or something, fighters fight their whole career to become a world champion, they dream about it when they are in the amateurs and Al just got guys giving away Belts!!!


First Quillin and now Possibly Garcia?!!!"


He has a hypnotist who persuades fighters left and right. His name is Ben. He's the true power wielder behind Team Haymon.

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Radam G:

"Agreed a spokesman from the NAC said no one is being accused or apprehended. They simply wanted to discuss "policy".

Regarding the weed.... Its legal in NV for medicinal purposes. And I heard from a reliable source that all those babes have glaucoma and can't see well. ( why do you think they're with Floyd?) Because they are supposedly half blind....lol.

Also the number one Show in America (Breaking Bad) features a Hero with cancer who sells Meth to support his family. If you want to talk about inappropriate images and values.... let's suppose we start there?"


Hehehehehe! Now you getting tRoast crazy with the comedy wisecracks.

"...all those babes have glaucoma and can't see well...." OMG! Haha!

That is classic. And Imma have to steal it.

There is no regulated "policy" in Sin City. These crooks just want some copy and space time.

Money May can easily make all those powers that be biters go away by saying, "We are practicing our religion. And this is not just a gym, but a church."

All of those "want-to-discuss-'policy' crooks will scatter." Holla!

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oubobcat:

Lets remember too that Mayweather Promotions was just granted a promotional license in Nevada. I think the bigger issue for Floyd might not be his own standing with the NSAC but potentially his company's standing. Promoters are held to a higher level than fighters. As a promoter too, the safety and well being of the participants should be of the highest priority. What does it say of the company he founded when you let two guys go at it non-stop in your gym in an untimed boxing match where the loser is the first one to give in. That's not safe by any means and rightfully raises questions about what else is going on at the gym and at Mayweather Promotions in regards to fighters safety.

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SouthPawFlo:

Ok now I have two questions:







What was the last Non Mayweather fight to Top 900,000???





What were the numbers for Canelo's two PPV fights this year????









Don't worry I'll wait...

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The Commish:

"Seems the powers that be are not happy with Floyd's gym . The footage we all saw on the all access has the lawmakers scratching their heads .
Unsafe environment , fighting to the death, illegal gambling , no air conditioning , no rest , no rounds, people being knocked unconscious with no medical people around.

The face of boxing and head of a sad promotional outfit sure shows outstanding integrity , concern for the fighters health and general class and dignity."


Ask The Shadow. Right after that episode of All Access, we discussed it on my show. Everything they do makes a mockery of the very existence of the Nevada State Athletic Commission. I heard from my friends up there that they had no idea these things were going on, and now they are going to do something about it.

Remember, their new Executive Director, Bob Bennett, is a retired Special Prosecutor for the FBI. Floyd Mayweather and his crew of miscreants have effed with the wrong guy. If you do that stuff, you do it in private, not in front of the Showtime cameras.

I have a feeling Bob Bennett is going to come after Floyd, his promotional license and the license of everybody else who was seen in that All Access.

You think Marcos Maidana gave $$$May a tough fight? Just wait!

-Randy G.

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brownsugar:

Agreed a spokesman from the NAC said no one is being accused or apprehended. They simply wanted to discuss "policy".

Regarding the weed.... Its legal in NV for medicinal purposes. And I heard from a reliable source that all those babes have glaucoma and can't see well. ( why do you think they're with Floyd?) Because they are supposedly half blind....lol.

Also the number one Show in America (Breaking Bad) features a Hero with cancer who sells Meth to support his family. If you want to talk about inappropriate images and values.... let's suppose we start there?

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Radam G:

"Can somebody with some knowledge about PPV buys tell me the last Non Mayweather bout to Top 900,000 buys...."

It depends if you want bullsyet and created counting or the truth. Canelo can match Money May any day of the week and eight times on Sunday. He is the one on the mainland.

Canelo's BIG-money supporter superbillionaire Carlos Slim has more bread than W. Buffet. There are opticials illusions everywhere. Money May is not the only pug that shoots them out.

You are apparently asking about PPV payouts on the U.S mainland. Because Da Manny kicks Money May's arse all the time in Canada and the Caribbeans. And Canelo does it to him back in Latin America, including Arizona, Texas, California, Colorado and Nevada.

"FIGHT DA POWER DAT BE! Don't believe the hype." Money May's PPV is joke in your town. And if it were not for create counting he would be a rich joke in every town. Holla!

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SouthPawFlo:

Is Al Haymon hypnotizing his guys or something, fighters fight their whole career to become a world champion, they dream about it when they are in the amateurs and Al just got guys giving away Belts!!!





First Quillin and now Possibly Garcia?!!!

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Radam G:

"Whatever the authorities think of the situation and from what they saw in the video, it's not something that can really be policed and it happens all over the world in every single boxing gym that teaches people how to fight. If the gym is serious, then everyone will be tested. I remember after the first week I had attended my first ever boxing gym, with only having been taught the stance, the 1-2 and nothing more I was thrust into a 3x4 spar with a boy older and bigger than me who didn't care that I had no idea how to defend myself in the ring. They wanted to see heart, that I wouldn't give up and that I would fight back.

D2 I am sure you know this and you will agree with me on what I have said. Sure the illegal gambling, ridiculousness of the entire sparring affair and the lack of medical attention to those being knocked unconscious is wrong and should be looked into, but this is a brutal sport at the end of the day, it's survival of the fittest where only the strong survive."


Actually you'd only need a person skilled in First Aid procedures at the Mayweather Gym.

The idiots that be who would meddle with Mayweather Gym would lose big time. I've seem it before. There is no problem about gambling and prostituting in the Fam May's gym. Legal gambling and legal prostitution are orders of the day in Sin City.

You guys need to holla at the place. You have hard hos and hard gamblers parading around with signs and shirts saying: "Hoes For Jesus," "Hos For The Lord," and "Gamblers For God."

Maybe a lot of people miss stuff become of looking, but not seeing, or because of just plain, old inattentional blindness.

I could tell you about some inattentional blindness in Sin City that will knock off your sock. Holla!

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SouthPawFlo:

Can somebody with some knowledge about PPV buys tell me the last Non Mayweather bout to Top 900,000 buys....

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