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Radam G:

"Golovkin is supremely skilled. Ward will pump a few punches then come and grab. What makes you think that after a few rounds Golovkin won't figure out what to do and give him some leather he can't handle? I don't see the fight happening soon, I hope not anyway. I'd much more prefer to see Golovkin reign supreme as the undisputed king of the 160 division. After a few defences of that crown when his legacy in the division is cemented, then he should further advance his position in the all time rankings by challenging Andre Ward and any other champion at 168."

Three 3g has one history -- and that is cobra striking. And his trainer has him doing that to the death. Trainer Abel Sanchez's has always preferred cobra-like striking pug. His best known fighter is Terry Norris. Go and holla at Terry's old fights. And be honest. And you will see the same cobra moves in him that 3g is using nowadays. As it is said in this game: "$ame old $yet. Different time. Different Playa . Terry had a china chin. Three g has an iron one. And it's going to take intense heat to melt it.

Three 3g is good -- very good -- but the present crop of middle that he's fought have been accommodating his crobra-ism. He is more cobra than Froch. And many cannot see it because of inattention blindness by his pop and bang. But with certain types of fighters, he cannot hang. Holla!

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flackoguapo:

Yeah I think it was a Pacquaio vs BradleyII post after the fight happened and he was describing how/why he thought Bradly won. It was a crazy read lol...Great pick in Amayseng and looking forward to these next two weeks!

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deepwater2:

"Kid Chocolate will melt under the glare of the Kazakh sun.



I'd love to see the fight made!"




Me too.In his last two fights, Kid C was getting out boxed and walked down by Gabe Rosado before the Dr stopped the fight on cuts in the 10th round.. Kid C went the distance against a long in the tooth and under-weight Konecny. Not too impressive when compared to what GGG has been doing. Kid C might be tough and strong but weak on the boxing skills. I see no advantage for Kid C over GGG.



Boxing ability goes to GGG

Speed goes to GGG

Power goes to GGG

Experience goes to GGG

Chin might be equal -both have good chins.

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The Commish:

I have to believe that Brandon Rios is going to be ultra-impressive in his upcoming bout against Diego "I Just Got My Visa" Chaves. Rios said his new weight division is Welterweight.

"I'm a 147-pounder now, and that's where I am going to stay," he told Gerry Cooney & me on our SiriusXM show on Monday.

"I killed myself to make 140. I don't kill myself to make 147. I feel strong at the weight."

With that, expect Rios to take care of business this weekend against Chaves, judging by the impressive training camp Rios had, perhaps his best ever. Following the Chaves fight, I'd love to see him face Ruslan Provodnikov. The fight could not be anything less than a top candidate for "Fight of the Year" honors. No running. No mauling. No clinching. Just brawling.

Let Rios first take care of business against the tough Diego Chaves.

Then: Rios-Provodnikov.

Let's get it on!

-Randy G.

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amayseng:

"Excellent choice. And yes, that Dude was far out. He ran into the Roast and ran for the hills."

Thanks for the support "El Shadow"

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Skibbz:

Golovkin is supremely skilled. Ward will pump a few punches then come and grab. What makes you think that after a few rounds Golovkin won't figure out what to do and give him some leather he can't handle? I don't see the fight happening soon, I hope not anyway. I'd much more prefer to see Golovkin reign supreme as the undisputed king of the 160 division. After a few defences of that crown when his legacy in the division is cemented, then he should further advance his position in the all time rankings by challenging Andre Ward and any other champion at 168.

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The Shadow:

"Dang! That was cold, tS! But is likely what SOG will do to 3g. Three g reminds me of a cobra -- just striking and striking -- not the bit of aware of an on-coming mongoosized stealth encounter.

I say that 3g remains smart g-g-g and stay at one-sixty. And don't get in the same zip code with SOG. Team 3g don't want nona-ur-dat . Holla!"


Precisely. Too much filth and stealth is not good for your health.

He don't want that work.

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thegreyman:

Kid Chocolate will melt under the glare of the Kazakh sun.

I'd love to see the fight made!

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Radam G:

Dang! That was cold, tS! But is likely what SOG will do to 3g. Three g reminds me of a cobra -- just striking and striking -- not the bit of aware of an on-coming mongoosized stealth encounter.

I say that 3g remains smart g-g-g and stay at one-sixty. And don't get in the same zip code with SOG. Team 3g don't want nona-ur-dat . Holla!

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The Shadow:

"I anticipate finding out this Friday where negotiations between the GGG camp & Quillin camp are. Quillin will be my in-studio guest on SiriusXM from 6-8pm.

We've got a lot to talk about.

-Randy G."


Colgate Quillin is not to be messed with.

If he's on point, he could take his new Colgate smile and make the Good Boy lose his, HBK-style.

Or the other way around.

Either way, I'd like to see that fight.

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The Shadow:

"Don't be hating on my Girl Serena, I've never even seen her on a Proactive commercial. I always see the one with Adam Levine and I always want to choke slam him while watching it. If Serena trained as a fighter she would beat 3G. I don't know if she could make 160 but if she could he would get TKOed in 5."



Oh, no doubt!



Five?? Why so late?



Paulie would edge her, though.

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The Shadow:

"Good point Commish! I should have said revisited it. I never got through it the first time.


El dude, wow, what a trip, el dude needed some el medicine.


Thanks Commish I will do my best!"


Excellent choice. And yes, that Dude was far out. He ran into the Roast and ran for the hills.

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The Shadow:

"Grimm, the only question which I can pose against your informed opinion is aimed at Andre Ward's chin. I strongly believe that when, and it will happen, Golovkin lands his shot on Ward, the Son of God will drop to his knees in submission to the man blessed with power that can seemingly only come from something beyond the realm of the man. If Ward believes that his life has been preordained for greatness and his is a path destined for greatness, than the shocking realisation that only the hardest blow can bring will provide the necessary wake up call to his delusions. I am not argue against religion or a notion of a God, simply arguing that Ward will tumble like those before him.

His chin is not the one that can handle the punch of a Golovkin. We have seen him dance to the canvas in a way that would make Trout's two step and slide look simple. It's hard to believe that Ward, even with all his ability, would be able to evade Gennady for 12 3-minute rounds whilst winning them tough rounds and tying him up. It becomes even more compelling when you factor in the argument how rusty the Son of God must be, with his perpetual inactivity that he so stubbornly decides to resume without thought for his fans or his pugilism.

I don't know who out there can beat Gennady between 160-168. At 160 the market has been cornered and the belts are ripe for Gennady to pluck. The real challenge lies in his inevitable campaign at 168. He is not a natural super-middleweight, the fights will certainly be closer, but I still see the skill and power riding through to give the Kazakh fire brand victory."


You're on fire, aren't you?

Contrary to popular belief, Ward actually has a good chin. Remember, Muhammad Ali got floored a lot in his younger days, too.

Besides, I don't think GGG will land a clean shot on him. It reminds me of the hype prior to Pavlik vs. Hopkins.

Sure, Kelly's got that firepower but if you can't land a clean shot, what does it matter? I'm not sure Golovkin can land a clean shot on Ward. Too elusive and crafty. He's almost impossible to hit on the inside when he smothers an opponent.

Where GGG's chance lies is downstairs -- he may get him to the body.

All in all, it also comes down to temperaments. GGG is a predator in the ring. But Ward is a hybrid of a stone-cold assassin and vicious, nasty pit bull.

I could easily see something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdg9gkmWsEA

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Radam G:

The Kid Chocolate Q is beginning to not feel 3g. Maybe they are both blind and can't see. They need to sit down and drink some Dill Weed Tea. And quit talking about the sparring sessions, and have a bout. This way, they can remove any doubts. "I've whupped his @$$," one of them could then SHOUT! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSwg98SJKvY. Holla!

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thegreyman:

Ward is supremely accurate and intelligent, in both his offence and defence. He is exceptionally physically gifted, with superb reflexes.

Ward has two serious flaws though, that will make him shark bait for GGG.

As Skibbz has pointed out, his chin isn't rock solid, which is certainly an attribute you need if you plan to beat Golovkin over 12 rounds. If guys so notoriously 'durable' and 'tough' as Proksa and Geale went down so fast and hard, how will Ward fare? Not well.

And it will go 12 rounds- because Ward lacks power. He punches with surgical precision, but without the hurt to knock Golovkin off his tracks for 12.

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amayseng:

"Re-read it? That one was impossible to get through, even once!

I don't remember the thread, but I believe it was in April. I believe El Dude was also posting at the time. Remember El "I'm in it to win it" Dude?

Enjoy your upcoming stint.

-Randy G."


Good point Commish! I should have said revisited it. I never got through it the first time.


El dude, wow, what a trip, el dude needed some el medicine.


Thanks Commish I will do my best!

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The Commish:

"haha. That was hysterical, nothing but respect to MisterLee..



does anyone remember the thread it was in? I wanna reread it"






Re-read it? That one was impossible to get through, even once!



I don't remember the thread, but I believe it was in April. I believe El Dude was also posting at the time. Remember El "I'm in it to win it" Dude?



Enjoy your upcoming stint.



-Randy G.

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amayseng:

"Wow! So much monkey jive about 3g. Holla at an oldy from Kid PQ. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3TWp55DGyw. Holla!"

What is a guy who refers to himself in the third person to say? That GGG whooped him? yeah right.. haha

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Radam G:

Wow! So much monkey jive about 3g. Holla at an oldy from Kid PQ. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3TWp55DGyw. Holla!

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oubobcat:

"GGG disposes Quillin in 3.

Jacobs would beat Quillin as well and deserves the shot."


I'd honestly be surprised if Quillin made it through 2 rounds with GGG.

Haymon knows Quillin's has flaws in his game. The last year he has faced Guerrero (fighter who had a weak chin). Rosado (good fighter but limited in many aspects of his game) and Koceny (a definition of a soft touch). Haymon has matched his undefeated Middleweight belt holder very carefully and for good reason. Even if HBO were to call Haymon and say we are interested in doing business with you on a one time deal for Quillin-GGG, I think Haymon turns away from that unless he is presented with an absolutely blockbuster offer for his man.

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The Commish:

"Why doesn't anyone like to mention the fact that GGG and his Handlers are clearly ducking Andre Ward????"



I couldn't disagree more, Southpaw. The last I looked, GGG held a piece of the middleweight title. He is one of boxing's most active champions. Ward is boxing's most inactive champion. Talented but inactive. GGG would like to at least face the other middleweight titleholders and a top contender or two before he r the Super Middleweight Title.



Down the road, GGG v Ward can be a very attractive fight. But it makes zero sense foer this truly outstanding middleweight king to face Andre Ward now.



-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Come on, Skibbz. Tell us how you really feel about Angel & Danny.



Angel is a rip. Truly, the guy makes us laugh. You never know what's gonna' comeout of his mouth. Can you picture Danny Garcia v Robert Guerrero? That fight would also match up the two most obnoxious, loud-mouthed, love-to-hear-themselves-talk father/trainers in the biz.



If you think Angel is out of control now, just just picture what it would be like if their son's were ever matched up.



You'd have a decent fight between them, with an added attraction of the "Battle of the Blowhards."



-Randy G.

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Skibbz:

"One of your best ever, and great analogy.



Thinking of Golovkin, I'm thinking of a pretty near perfect mixture of balance, technique and mental attributes. He has a way of executing technically exemplary punches with a boost by almost budo-like tension at the moment he hits. A man able to beat him must be a man of great ring generalship - a Hopkins, for instance - that still possesses the reflexes, strength and overall skill to give him fits and, last but not least, power to earn his respect. The only man out there that fits the description is Ward. It could be the first real superfight since Hagler-Leonard, minus the media hype.



On another note, I was more impressed with how Golovkin handled Proksa than Geale. Proksa wasn't/isn't the biggest of names, but very talented, very tough, had toyed with solid veteran Sebastian Sylvester and basically made him quit, and most of all: awkward. I predicted Golovkin would be too much for Proksa, but couldn't believe the way he dominated him from the start. Having followed Proksa for a while, that fight was all I needed in order to know Golovkin was so much more than just the real thing. He's the real beast."




Grimm, the only question which I can pose against your informed opinion is aimed at Andre Ward's chin. I strongly believe that when, and it will happen, Golovkin lands his shot on Ward, the Son of God will drop to his knees in submission to the man blessed with power that can seemingly only come from something beyond the realm of the man. If Ward believes that his life has been preordained for greatness and his is a path destined for greatness, than the shocking realisation that only the hardest blow can bring will provide the necessary wake up call to his delusions. I am not argue against religion or a notion of a God, simply arguing that Ward will tumble like those before him.



His chin is not the one that can handle the punch of a Golovkin. We have seen him dance to the canvas in a way that would make Trout's two step and slide look simple. It's hard to believe that Ward, even with all his ability, would be able to evade Gennady for 12 3-minute rounds whilst winning them tough rounds and tying him up. It becomes even more compelling when you factor in the argument how rusty the Son of God must be, with his perpetual inactivity that he so stubbornly decides to resume without thought for his fans or his pugilism.



I don't know who out there can beat Gennady between 160-168. At 160 the market has been cornered and the belts are ripe for Gennady to pluck. The real challenge lies in his inevitable campaign at 168. He is not a natural super-middleweight, the fights will certainly be closer, but I still see the skill and power riding through to give the Kazakh fire brand victory.

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amayseng:

No Danny you need a credible opponent especially after the gift decision in your last fight.
In all honesty you are coming off a LOSS and it truly shows by the matchmaking your team knows you lost as well

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The Commish:

"Commish my wife is new to Long Island NY and she says your wife is top 3 nicest people she has met since being here. Thanks ."

My wife was so honored to hear that. In my book, she is the nicest person I have ever met. Plus, she loves boxing! When I was aboard the NYSAC, she was, in many ways, the "First Lady of Boxing" in NY. Everyone in the sport in NY knew Roni G. Even today, when we are at boxing matches, many of the judges, refs and inspectors walk over to speak with her. Even Melvina Lathan, the Chairperson of the Commission, always huddles with my wife at some point during the card.

So, when are we going out?

I love this TSS DAS (The Sweet Science Date Arranging Service)!

-Randy G.

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Skibbz:

I always go for the knockout. I need a knockout. I haven’t had one since Morales back in Brooklyn so I’m definitely going for it." He's been placed in a de facto bout.. He doesn't need a stoppage, a stoppage will come. After Herrera made him look lousy and blew up the gaping holes in Garcia's game for all to see, Haymon wants his fighter to look good and that's what will happen.

We’re ready for anybody, when Danny goes up to 147 he’s going to take them all down too. I don’t care who the killers are, I don’t care who’s the pretty guy, I don’t care about none of them. When we come to 147 we’re dominating." Someone stick a sock in his mouth and a pole up where the sun doesn't shine because he's talking like a man deluded beyond the point of return. His sanity must surely be questioned now, that after a horrible showing against M H (no discredit to the fighting Maestro), he's now facing somebody with an arsenal of a weak 1-2 and ear muffs and Angel claims that his son will go on and topple everyone at 147.

Both Broner and Garcia should be made to fight each other, a loser leaves boxing and winner starts paying his dues against legitimate opponents.

Again I've said it but I will repeat it. It's no shame if you're the champ, and you take 3-4 non title bouts in the year to keep sharp against opponents in and around the top 40-50, and then hold one or two title bouts against legitimate opponents. But when you're fighting twice a year and charging your fans extortionate prices, how can you justify fights like Garcia vs Salka with belts on the line?

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amayseng:

I have Ward beating Stevenson like a drum, Bhop would be a tough tough fight, possibly a draw, I would favor him against Kovalev if he was active but he is not, I can see Kovalev giving him fits and fits. Kovalev has great timing and distance, that spacing can keep Ward from hitting and gripping and stalling down K's offense. There are a many of great fights for Ward if he would one fight and secondly actually move up or down for the fights.

Against GGG at 168 I don't know who I would pick honestly. I wouldn't I would just enjoy it.


Ward is only hurting himself. he is now 30 and fought just a few times in a few years. Bad idea. How many times do you recall Floyd talking about fighting few and far between and how it kept him from being sharp and at his best?

Ward is losing fans and allowing his skills to diminish. Sadly because I am a huge fan of the man and the fighter.

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amayseng:

"Don't be hating on my Girl Serena, I've never even seen her on a Proactive commercial. I always see the one with Adam Levine and I always want to choke slam him while watching it. If Serena trained as a fighter she would beat 3G. I don't know if she could make 160 but if she could he would get TKOed in 5."



Serena on that Juice.

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gibola:

Hi there - surely HBO has the power to say if you don't want tough fights (or we simply can't make attractive fights for you) then we won't be renewing your contract and you won't be on HBO beyond whatever commitment we've made to you. That would leave both guys with interesting choices. Showtime can't broadcast every fighter so HBO does have a fair bit of clout in that they are the only other show in town. What the hell point is there in having guys under contract to HBO if they can't get them to fight on their channel?

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amayseng:

GGG disposes Quillin in 3.

Jacobs would beat Quillin as well and deserves the shot.

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