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the Roast:

"Could you even get more famous than Ali?!

Floyd wouldn't be the best of the best, Ali would be the most famous man in the world! Just like he was then.

As a brand, Mayweather is a blip on the radar compared to Muhammad Ali.

Muhammad Ali was so huge that he could still sell his image for $60 million 25 years after he was relevant and without no longer being able to speak.

Mayweather is what's hot today. Someone else will take over in a few years.

But there will NEVER be another Ali."


nailed it.

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Radam G:

"As we broke on this site a little over one week ago, Larry Hazzard is back.



Hazzard, 69, who ruled the NJSACB with an iron fist from 1985 until 2007, began his second reign as NJ's Boxing Commissioner on Monday, September 22.



One of Hazzard's pet peeves is referees who try to inject themselves into matches so much so that they try to become more important than the two combatants themselves.



"When these guys get announced at the start of the match, they go through all these machinations of hand gestures, face gestures, bowing and anything else you can think of to get attention. They have catch phrases to start the fight and they show off to the crowd, to the asudience watching on TV and even to the TV announcers. They lean over the ropes to talk to the announcers, maqking sure the announcers mention their name. They'll even hug and kiss the winning fighter. I'm telling you right now, that's gonna' all stop."



Will there be Referee's Seminars in New Jersey?



"You'd better believe there are going to be seminars in New Jersey," Hazzard told me, Gerry Cooney and The Shadow on Monday's "At the Fights" on SiriusXM Radio. "And you know who's going to be doing them?" he asked.



Not waiting for an answer, he said "Me. I'm going to be the instructor."



Neww Jersey referees should consider themselves fortunate, having as their instructor on of the best refs--possibly THE best--ever to officiate a boxing match.



We wish Commissioner Hazzard all the best in his second go-round at the helm in New Jersey.



-Randy G."




Wow! Here we go against. I'm such a hardnosed party pooper. But really I'm a stealth trooper.



Commish L Hazz acts like a roughneck fascist. Haven't his iron fist rust? With age, he should have mellowed.



I never dug his style of jumping over the top rope and stopping bouts, instead of letting the referees do their jobs.



Wow! And refs from the beginning of pug time have always personalized themselves with smiles, bowing, pointing at the cameras and jestering and other histronics. Holla at some old boksing game flicks.



We don't need commissions who are going to be d**** and install New Jack robotic fascist behaviors. Refs are humans. Let me them act that way a bit. Handle them for not refereeing correctly, not making themselves noticeable before and after the fights. Ev'ybodee and dey momma wanna be a star. Don't tow or crash their car. Holla!

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Radam G:

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I doubt Floyd along with a lot of fighters, wouldnt be who and where they are today if their imagination wasnt sparked by the force of Ali's irresistable influence."


True dat! True dat! But Ali would not be who he was if his imagination would not have been sparked by the "irresistable influence" of his smack-talking Irish Gramps Grady, aka O'Grady, and of course, "Unforgivable Blackness" Jack Johnson.

The GOAT Ali always said that he was heavily influenced to talk smack and light the world with it because of those two above men and Elijah Muhammad and Malcolm X.

We all owe somebody long before we came on the scene. None of us are original and all dat and a bag of chips as we wanna think we are. It is the human way in all of our DNA -- we sample and bit outright or subliminal like a mutha. Holla!

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The Commish:

"Could you even get more famous than Ali?!

Floyd wouldn't be the best of the best, Ali would be the most famous man in the world! Just like he was then.

As a brand, Mayweather is a blip on the radar compared to Muhammad Ali.

Muhammad Ali was so huge that he could still sell his image for $60 million 25 years after he was relevant and without no longer being able to speak.

Mayweather is what's hot today. Someone else will take over in a few years.

But there will NEVER be another Ali."


Muhammad Ali is by far and away one of the most famous personalities in history. Certainly, no athlete has ever been as been as popular and well-known.

Can you picture a young Ali today, working Twitter, Facebook and Instagram? He'd have more Twitter followers than Floyd Mayweather, Justin Bieber and Kim Kardashian put together.

$$$May would benefit greatly from being talked to by Muhammad Ali.

On a whole other note, Ali--as crazy as it sounds--could probably be the one American, the one person, who could head to Syria and talk to terrorist leaders in groups such as Hamas and ISIS and get them to accept some sort of peace accord.

That's how big Ali would be.

How big would Muhammad Ali have been had he been in his prime today?

His enormity would have been so great, so widespread, that it is virtually unthinkable and incomprehensible.

-Randy G.

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brownsugar:

Its not Mayweathers fault that he doesn't possess the "People Person" personality that Ali did. Floyd seems to be somewhat "anal retentive" by comparison. But he's far from being a knuckle dragging introvert who cant work the crowd. Although he's far less acerbic and profane than he used to be Floyd can carry his weight behind the microphone.

The once in a century personality combined with the raging political issues that galvinized Ali into a spokesman of his generation may have lain dormant if Ali was born thirty years ago.
He might have avoided boxing completely and became a Radiologist.

Or a comic...... Or he may have died in the gulf war.(not having a need to gravitate toward Islam)

The same perfect set of circumstances that can compel some men to be losers and boozers can drive others to become winners and choosers......arriving at either destination is often just one seemingly insignificant personal choice away.

But it was Ali who who gave Mayweather the blue print to become who he is (albiet in his own unique and less inspiring way).

I doubt Floyd along with a lot of fighters, wouldnt be who and where they are today if their imagination wasnt sparked by the force of Ali's irresistable influence.

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amayseng:

One thing is for certain, Floyd has a granite chin

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Radam G:

"It probably was a tooth. Floyd and his whole family fixed their choppers long ago. Porcelain veneers . I don't think it hurts at all when one of those things breaks off and there is always the real tooth that is still underneath .



So Floyd isn't lying when he says his tooth didn't get knocked out ,his phony tooth did though. He will pop into the dentist, pop down $10,000 and walk out 20 minutes later with no problem.



People don't like Floyd because of his character and actions outside the ring. His personality is not entertaining,he doesn't sound original . His boxing style doesn't excite people enough. Floyd wants most fans to hate him so his business plan is working. It is what it is."




Good call, D2. You were spot on. Big confirmation now. Lil' Floyd got the "Porcelain veneer," also called a "crown" or a "cap" knocked off from his regular sawed-down, root canal-ed tooth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy4D7QVjtSo.



And for all you Money May groupies, fanboys and fanfaronades. Nobody is hating Lil' Floyd. Syet happenings to all greats. Just because he got his tooth KTFO, it doesn't take away from his greatness. So you guys chillax. It has happened to umpteen pugs this year, and that you can read on Fightfax. Holla!

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The Shadow:

Could you even get more famous than Ali?!

Floyd wouldn't be the best of the best, Ali would be the most famous man in the world! Just like he was then.

As a brand, Mayweather is a blip on the radar compared to Muhammad Ali.

Muhammad Ali was so huge that he could still sell his image for $60 million 25 years after he was relevant and without no longer being able to speak.

Mayweather is what's hot today. Someone else will take over in a few years.

But there will NEVER be another Ali.

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The Good Doctor:

"GGG is right on the money. Good for him.

Is 154 and Lil Floyd so far away? 6 lbs. Ellerbe got fired/axed/demoted/shown the door for putting Floyd's 154 lb belt on the line, maybe he doesn't want GGG coming down and giving him the good boy treatment."


Deep, you have laced them up and still do I believe. What are you weighing in relation to the limit with less than a month to go, 3-5 percent above, right at the weight, 7% above?

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Radam G:

"That forecast sounds quite optimistic, not unlike the forecasts pitched to gullible VC's at the height of the late '90s dot-com craze.



Radam, you sound like The Manny is facing a Brian Sutherland on the decline. This is not Sutherland. This is Algieri son!



Four round KO? He might win four rounds total!



Have you ever seen Chris Algieri in the club?! Dude can cut a rug. Where do you think he got all those girls from?!



He made one appearance on American Idol, all cornrowed up like a teenage Shadow, explaining how he has three (dance) moves and that is all he needs to propel him to greatness.



I'm going to post that video later.



I can sense it, Sensei. I can smell it. Do you smell it?"




Working out to music is grand. I give it up to C-Al's dancing on the dance floor and knowledge of conditioning.



The fact is that with music you get into better shape than messing with that syet -- roids and PEDs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofbnpVbtqTc



C-Al's problem is that he is out of his league in the da legal hurt bitnezz game. Holla!

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Radam G:

"That was some of the strangest interaction I have ever witness on scripted tv. Yes it was scripted, Floyd laying relaxing on the couch staying calm waiting to get ready for the fight and Buffet enters and all he can muster is something about being quite relaxed or not worried. The man clearly never was active in athletics, sure he is ridiculously rich.

What was the point of adding him to the "money team" mix? I dont get it or buy it.

What is the connection here? One rich guy with the richest guy.

And dont give me its about Floyd growing his "empire"."


Hehehehe!! It's was about Lil' Floyd growing his "empire." Haha! Holla!

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amayseng:

"It makes him feel young again. The brain plays tricks on an old fart and keep him yearning to see eye candy -- body beauty. Buffet feels the sweat just as much as those pugs do. Holla!"

That was some of the strangest interaction I have ever witness on scripted tv. Yes it was scripted, Floyd laying relaxing on the couch staying calm waiting to get ready for the fight and Buffet enters and all he can muster is something about being quite relaxed or not worried. The man clearly never was active in athletics, sure he is ridiculously rich.

What was the point of adding him to the "money team" mix? I dont get it or buy it.

What is the connection here? One rich guy with the richest guy.

And dont give me its about Floyd growing his "empire".

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amayseng:

"GGG is right on the money. Good for him.

Is 154 and Lil Floyd so far away? 6 lbs. Ellerbe got fired/axed/demoted/shown the door for putting Floyd's 154 lb belt on the line, maybe he doesn't want GGG coming down and giving him the good boy treatment."


GGG would beat Floyd up terribly at this point even at 154.

Floyd should have been stripped of that belt a year ago.

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Skibbz:

I hope they're not going to drain Rubio's lb's away the few days before the fight. It's happened to so many RG fighters that he makes them lose too much water trying to make the weight. Rubio will need all the minerals he can retain for when he squares off against Golovkin. If he doesn't look good by the weigh in then be sure the GGG trend of fast KO's won't be bucked!

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deepwater2:

GGG is right on the money. Good for him.



Is 154 and Lil Floyd so far away? 6 lbs. Ellerbe got fired/axed/demoted/shown the door for putting Floyd's 154 lb belt on the line, maybe he doesn't want GGG coming down and giving him the good boy treatment.

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The Good Doctor:

Rubio is a little heavier than he should be right now. Garcia has a bit of a history with fighters and making weight. I think Rubio will make weight but he will have to put a little umph in to do so.

Most trainers like their fighters to somewhere between 5 and 7 percent above the limit with about a month left while Rubio is 9% plus. I don't think it is going to matter much as I think GGG shoeshines him, but it is an interesting tidbit.

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michigan400:

I thought Mchunu looked great!! Can't fault him for not going for the KO against Wilson. The mans head is boulder and while he lacks skill, he does NOT lack heart or a strong punch. I thought Mchunu did it right. Staggered him a couple times and started to press but Wilson recovers so fast it was best to back off. To win impressively you first have to win.

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The Shadow:

The Rock vs. Ultimate Warrior? What is this, Xbox 360?

Mchunu is nice. Where he learned that slick ish from, I have no idea. You're right my dude, no one will want to fight him.

Because his style of domination is less transparent to the untrained eye, there will be no one clamoring for the titlists to take him on. Which is a shame. He's as dominant and superior as anyone out there.

How do you beat him? You can wait for him to get tired. That's the only thing I see. He's got that sort of "unbeatable" style and discipline to carry it out over the course of a fight.

That particular attribute reminds of Andre Ward in a sense. Strict focus and discipline throughout a fight. Doesn't look like you can sucker him out of his comfort zone, "outside himself" like Austin "Plenty Doubt" Trout.

He'll stick to what he does and win. Slick fighters rule, pun intended.

By the way, where's El Dude?

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The Shadow:

Looks like Thabisu Mchunu is carving out a nice niche for himself, feasting on Philly fighters.

I done peeped this dude from the way he dispatched a supremely skilled Eddie Chambers like it was NOTHING!

OU Bobcat kinda made a nice analogy, calling him a poor man's Rigondeaux. I originally gave that title to Dandy Landy but it probably applies better here.

Either way, he's superbly skilled, my eyes don't lie. The reason he's just a poor man's version is because his stamina isn't elite.

That said, TRUST ME! None of these cruiserweights will want that work.

He'll take Hernandez to Cuban school, make him look like a 3rd grader. Huck will duck. The Pole will roll. Lebedev? Ha! Don't make me cramp from laughter.

Mchunu may not knock nobody out but he will make each and every single one of them look like novices.

The scary thing about Mchunu is that once he faces better opposition, he will shine even brighter.

Bring on the Boers, the Brits. This Zulu warrior is for real.

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oubobcat:

"Let GB put Dargan in with Figueroa... The lightweight division needs an upgrade....then match him against Uber Spoiler Lundy next"

I would favor Dargan right now against Figueroa. Dargan is a very sharp puncher with good lateral movement. I see him picking apart Figueroa from the outside with jabs and sharp combinations. Remember how much success Belmontes had against Figueroa. Well Dargan is more athletic, technically more sound, a much sharper puncher with much more effective jab and hits harder.

Unfortunately, Figueroa's powerful adviser will keep him far away from Dargan.

A realistic fight though for Dargan next and one he'd be ready for would be the guy Figueroa just beat in Estrada. If Dargan wins that fight, could probably position himself to fight for a belt soon after. Figueroa will probably soon vacate and head north and Dargan's people would be wise to maneuver him into a top ranking to fight for that vacant belt.

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Skibbz:

"Fourth round? By the 4th round, Pac-Man will still be trying to figure out how to deal with the reach advantage of Algieri and the repeated jabs to his nose. By this time, Da' Manny will start thinking things like, "After this, I think I'll spend more time as Congressman" and "I wish I could have faced Floyd Mayweather years ago. I would have made so much more than I'm making tonight."

-Randy G."


Come off it Commissioner we need to take our heads out of the clouds and bring them back down to reality. I don't believe you have forgotten who Pacquiao is or what he has achieved, and against whom he has battled to victory. I will have delivered to your radio show a big serving of humble pie for you to chow on with the Shadow and Algieri in the broadcast following the fight.

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Skibbz:

"I smell something after reading that post and it doesn't smell good.

It's one thing to say CA might jab and move,score some points,win some rounds and has a legit chance but to say he is going to be dancing over a knocked out Pac, that prediction has pharmaceuticals involved!"


Hahahaha that made me chuckle good.

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Skibbz:

Am I the only one more disappointed at the prospect of Crawford leaving 135 than anything else? At 135 there are so many good fights for Crawford to be a part of but as BSuge so rightly said it is often too hard for a young and hugnry fighter to decline an opportunity to huge.

For Crawford at 135 there is Figueroa who holds the WBC strap, a fight that would no doubt get fans in there seats and be a high quality match up. There's Linares who I'd love to see him face and would be a good opportunity to fight a good southpaw before a mega fight with Pacman. There's the well skilled Terry Flanagan, the British Champ at 135, Richard Abril who hold the WBA 135 title and even Ant Crolla who is improving and is hungry for a shot at a world title. Basically at 135 there are a ton of good fights for him to take which on paper at least he could win and it would cement his supremacy in the division, and help get him more fans he so desperately needs in the process.

Throwing Crawford into the mix at 140 would be great too, but the timing's not right in my opinion. There are too many fighters in their primes who have handled their apprenticeships and are competing for the titles on offer in the division. In my opinion Crawford's apprenticeship at world level isn't complete and stepping up to the highest level of competition too soon would be the wrong move.

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deepwater2:

It seems the phony source (Espinoza) inflated the PPV numbers. Word on the "street " is the PPV fell under the first fight. The Showtime boss might not be secure in his job as he was last year.

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Radam G:

"Haha! Yeah, you guys may laugh.



And sure, there may be pharmaceuticals in the aroma. But that could just be the stench of smelling salts.



Remember, this is the same stuff they said about a supposedly light-punching, dance-and-prance 20-0 Muhammad Ali.



He was facing a man so strong a pack of police officers armed with billy clubs couldn't floor him.



Then one single light hand from the light punching dancer led to this:



http://www.abbeville.com/images-catalog/full-size/0789209039.interior01.jpg



You never know, stranger things have happened!



It is the theatre of the unexpected after all."




The GOAT Ali could fight. He started at 12, won the O-Games at 18, and became champ of the world at 22. And he could CRACK-- LIGHTNING CRACK! ZOOK! ZISSSS! Like lightning outta da sky, he would have arses on the canvas of dat squared jungle FRIED, DYED and laid to da SIDE. It is myth that he was a "light punching dancer." He was thunder and lightning doing da dancing and prancing.



C-Al started boxing at 24-years old. And has come to boxing with his bad Kickboxing habits.



Dude is TERRIBLE! He ain't ur finger-size flashlight spark. At him, a toy dog would not bark. And the only reason that he is being pushed is because we live in the days of media mirages. Some real Big-screen Rocky syet -- not the real-life Rocky M or Rocky G, but Rocky B. And Rocky B syet can never be in the "theatre of the unexpected," because it came from the on-location movie-acting theatre of a movie script.



Now I hope that I didn't just lose my bit part for the next installment of Big-Screen Rocky B. Holla!

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brownsugar:

Let GB put Dargan in with Figueroa... The lightweight division needs an upgrade....then match him against Uber Spoiler Lundy next

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brownsugar:

They can do the fight. Like MCM says its got a great pre-existing warm and fuzzy buzz... and enough angles to keep a whole fleet of hype machines churning out spin material for three to six months.



But Terrance should avoid such a fight for at least 18 months because he is simply not ready. If Gamboa almost had him close to doing a ten second "Rip Van Winkle".



Pac will most certainly have Crawford dreaming about beating the 147 lb icon before the fight reaches the final round.



I know its hard for a young hungry fighter like Crawford to decline such an opportunity as huge as fighting Pac since he is dirt farmer poor by comparison.



However rushing in the opportunity too soon is a recipe for failure.

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Radam G:

"That forecast sounds quite optimistic, not unlike the forecasts pitched to gullible VC's at the height of the late '90s dot-com craze.



Radam, you sound like The Manny is facing a Brian Sutherland on the decline. This is not Sutherland. This is Algieri son!



Four round KO? He might win four rounds total!



Have you ever seen Chris Algieri in the club?! Dude can cut a rug. Where do you think he got all those girls from?!



He made one appearance on American Idol, all cornrowed up like a teenage Shadow, explaining how he has three (dance) moves and that is all he needs to propel him to greatness.



I'm going to post that video later.



If it doesn't go as I initially predicted, my forecast is this:



Algieri will OUTPOINT The Manny for eight or nine rounds while dancing, juking, spinning and #winning. And he will sweep those rounds, just like sweeps the women off their feet.



Then, The Manny, in a heroic last-ditch effort, will go to the well one last time, start stutter-stepping -- the move he taught Shawn Porter -- and jump in for the coupe-de-grace left hand to solidify an epic come-from-behind victory.



He will feint the jab. Feint it again. Then UNLEASH his nuclear left with evil intentions.



Except this time, Algieri won't dance. He won't prance.



Instead he stands -- his ground, that is.



In doing so, Algieri will channel his inner Marquez, launch his own Dinamita straight right, catch Pacquiao square on the chin -- just like Rustico Torrecampo did -- and knock Manny out COLD!



Then he will stand over Manny' fallen body, raise his hands high and begin to DANCE! (Sort of like Roger Mayweather used to do.)



And the people will holla, oh yes they will!



This vivid imagery will be infused into boxing folklore for decades to come: Chris Algieri Ushering in a new era with a dance, signaling a glorious epoch come to a close.



I can sense it, Sensei. I can smell it. Do you smell it?"




WOW! Drinking that Empire State water and eating those month-old mushrooms will cause you some outta this world thoughts. Hehehe! Oh, YUP!



And my friend , don't look the Commish in the eyes. He will put da whammy on you. Before you know it, you will be a loyal Commish zombie telling the world that C-Al is the greatest pug of all times.



BTW, YUP! I know that the dude can cut a rug. He is Latin. He can get down with it on the dance floor. He is just not down with it in dat squared jungle as a pug. Holla!

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The Shadow:

"Hehehehe! Now that was funny as heck. It made me choke on my Balut. OMG! Holla!"

But you can smell it, right? The upset! It can happen! No?

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The Shadow:

Haha! Yeah, you guys may laugh.

And sure, there may be pharmaceuticals in the aroma. But that could just be the stench of smelling salts.

Remember, this is the same stuff they said about a supposedly light-punching, dance-and-prance 20-0 Muhammad Ali.

He was facing a man so strong a pack of police officers armed with billy clubs couldn't floor him.

Then one single light hand from the light punching dancer led to this:

http://www.abbeville.com/images-catalog/full-size/0789209039.interior01.jpg

You never know, stranger things have happened!

It is the theatre of the unexpected after all.

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