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deepwater2:

I enjoy watching Thurman but is he really the most feared? He is fighting C level fighters while he should be fighting B level fighters. 39 year old Bundu?



Thurman is in his prime, it is time to step up and he will be so much better for it. If he goes from fighting C level fighters right to the A list he will be outclassed as history shows us.



Its not his fault because Thurman comes to fight and calls guys out but his advisor is not doing right by him. Turning down the Roc Nation offer was not a good career move. He would of had some nice buzz going for him if he was the first boxer signed by Roc Nation and I am sure they would have rolled out the red carpet for him as well as paying him huge paydays.

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kenhissner:

Jesse Reid is as good a trainer as anyone in the business in this writers opinion. Besides that he is a man's man and one willing to listen and not do a lot of bragging like too many other trainers in this business. His son is a good assistant and Gabe Rosado becoming a complete offensive fighter instead of a part time boxer, part time fighter in the same fight for a change. Gabe never seemed to look comfortable whether he was in with Pooh Ennis or Peter Quillin. At the post conference I told Quillin that Rosado "deserves a re-match". He would have that WBO title that Quillin gave up recently. Passing on a 154 title fight for a "shot" at the best P4P fighter in boxing in my opinion Gennady "GGG" Golovkin may have fattened his bank account but it sure didn't help from losing enough blood in that one to prevent several people cleaning up his blood afterwards in the ring. I'm glad he admitted to losing that one. He did half half around of backing up GGG but otherwise it was survival like all of GGG's opponents go into once they are hit.

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Froggy:

If not Pacquiao ? Brandon Rios would be good or maybe the Siberian Rocky !

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Gabrielito:

The same goes for Algeiri's corner. Chris has some tough decisions to make.

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Froggy:

That man is a fighter ! Nice to see that smile !

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brownsugar:

Wow...talk about a source for inspiration

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Froggy:

"Sounds like it could be the start of a fruitful relationship for them, Cooney's insights would be invaluable to Chris.. Let's hope he makes the switch. Best of luck to them."



I think you're right, he sure has nothing to lose by trying it !

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The Commish:

"Sounds like it could be the start of a fruitful relationship for them, Cooney's insights would be invaluable to Chris.. Let's hope he makes the switch. Best of luck to them."

I spoke to a friend yesterday, the guy who actually introduced Chris Algieri to Tim Lane several years ago. Awhile back, Lane burned that friend and the two no longer speak.

"Tim is all about Tim," said my friend. "He has dreams of being famous, of being a celebrity." Well, he got his 15 minutes--and more! His time is up!"

That it is.

It's time for a new trainer, one who is more about Algieri than he is about fame for himself.

I would love to see that trainer be Gerry Cooney.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

"I like it. If PAC is going to 140 he might as well beat the champion at the weight. Barclays might get it. I think PAC boxes his ears off. Angel Garcia might pop a vein in his neck yelling at Freddie Roach.

Will tsAH allow it? Danny has a cushy gig fighting guys like Salka."




This fight is a possibility, but not at 140. Garcia has said he is through killing himself to make 140. I'm not sure if he is even comfortable at 147, but that is where he belongs.



Because of his heart, his drive, the power in his hook and the pop in his jab, Garcia should at least be competitive against Pacquiao, but only at 147, nothing lower.



If not Pacquiao, who then for Garcia at 147.



How about Brandon Rios?



-Randy G.

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Skibbz:

"I haven't been able to speak with him yet. I think he's gonna' rest for a day or so before heading back out into the world. I know this: Gerry Cooney will NOT contact Algieri about dumping his two trainers, or at least, Tim Lane, unless Algieri does it on his own.

"Once I hear he is free and talking to people, only then will I speak to Chris and suggest we try working together."

If Cooney can improve even Algieri's jab, Algieri will benefit greatly. Then, to add power to his hook and some leverage will make Algieri much more dangerous, not a fighter whom opponents can walk right in on with no fear of being hit by pitty-pat shots.

Hopefully, it's so long, Tim and hello to Gerry.

GC truly believes he can make a big difference in the style and career of Chris Algieri.

So do I.

-Randy G."


Sounds like it could be the start of a fruitful relationship for them, Cooney's insights would be invaluable to Chris.. Let's hope he makes the switch. Best of luck to them.

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The Commish:

"Wow cool stuff. The way I see it is that Pacquaio chooses his spots a lot better now so he lands that left more which means he's less likely to get caught when he goes in for that "shift punch". Before he would do that sequence 5 times every 15 seconds it seemed and he did overreach a bit. I would like to know what C-AL really says on why he lost. He's an articulate dude and it'd be interesting..."

I haven't been able to speak with him yet. I think he's gonna' rest for a day or so before heading back out into the world. I know this: Gerry Cooney will NOT contact Algieri about dumping his two trainers, or at least, Tim Lane, unless Algieri does it on his own.

"Once I hear he is free and talking to people, only then will I speak to Chris and suggest we try working together."

If Cooney can improve even Algieri's jab, Algieri will benefit greatly. Then, to add power to his hook and some leverage will make Algieri much more dangerous, not a fighter whom opponents can walk right in on with no fear of being hit by pitty-pat shots.

Hopefully, it's so long, Tim and hello to Gerry.

GC truly believes he can make a big difference in the style and career of Chris Algieri.

So do I.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

"Very Well Written"

Thanks, Lefty!

-Randy G.

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Skibbz:

The more Eubank runs his mouth the more the bookies will make. All the smart money is on Billy Joe, you only have to look at how they stack up and then you'll see how one sided it's going to be. Eubank will be taught a humbling lesson and will have to follow the traditional route. His dad's talked him into this fight and now he's going to be run out and down to the bottom of the pack. Will be a pleasure to watch!

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The Commish:

This card, which will be seen on ESPN3, is filled with 12-rounders, some for European titles, some for Commonwealth titles and others as title eliminators.

Of course, the Tyson Fury v Dereck Chisora bout is not just for Chisora's European heavyweight crown. It is for a shot at Wladimir Klitschko's WBO title. Hopefully, neither brittle guy will stub a toe or chip a fingernail between now and Saturday and be forced to pull out of the fight. Fingers are crossed.

As for Saunders-Eubank, this could turn into a wild one.he fact is, these guys are not merelyopponents on Saturday night. They totally dislike one another.

Last July 26, they fought in separate bouts on a card at te Phones 4u Arena in Manchester, England. Saunders won his bout by a TKO in 8, while Eubank drilled his opponent in the first round. Later, the two had to be separated by several men in the dressing room area.

On Saturday, they will be turned loose on each other, with only referee Michael Alexander there to pull them apart and see they adhere to the rules.

Both are undefeated. Eubank is 18-0 (13), while Saunders is 20-0 (11). However, it's Eubank who was far busier in 2014, winning all six of his matches. Saunders fought just once, winning in July. However, he suffered an eye cut in that bout and his been inactive since.

Both say they are ready and itching for the bell to ring.

I can't wait for the main course of Fury-Chisora, but Eubank-Saunders is one heck of an appetizer.

-Randy G.

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Skibbz:

Danny's got a powerful philly sharpened left hook which if he times it rightly might catch Pac over his jab, but otherwise he's going to be bulldozed. I think he's tough but he needs to get a few more tough 12 rounders under his belt before embarking on a Pac fight. Fighting Salka's and getting gifts isn't going to prepare you for Manny.

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SouthPaul:

I think it was a solid run for an up comer. Danny's a tough kid. I think he'd give PAC a nice little tussle. Much rather see him against PAC than the over talked .....over priced Mayweather bout. Definitely would be more action.

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SouthPaul:

Wow, almost 15 years ago? Wtf? I was watching this as it unfolded even have it on VHs. Recorded everything during those days. R.I.P Sam Kellerman

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The Commish:

Beltran is not the biggest puncher in the world, but he is a rough, tough hombre.

While rawford has a fast pair of hands and feet, Beltran has seen it before--he has served as a longtime sparring partner for Manny Pacquiao. However, he doesn't have the "sparring partner" mentality, where the fighter holds back after drilling his opponent with a stiff shot (if you knock the boss out, you become an ex-well-paid sparring partner!). Beltran knows his job against Pacquiao and gives him some rugged work, which is how Pacquiao likes it. But he also knows just when to pull back.

In actual competition, Beltran does not hold back. He makes up for his lack of a big bomb with a heavy work rate, a stiff jab and some nifty counter-punching. He is on an unbeaten run of five fights, stretching back to a majority decision in 10 over then over once-beaten Hank Lundy.

Beltran's last stoppage came against 40'ish loser Darien Ford, who fell in the second round and promptly retired. It was his seventh straight loss.

Beltran will not stop Crawford. His only hope is to outwork work him with constant, effective pressure and clean counter-shots. However, Crawford's hand speed, timing, accuracy and footwork make him a difficult target to hit with counter-shots.

Beltran's only hope will be to pour on pressure and hope to slow Crawford with body shots.

I see this going the distance in a fast-paced fight, with Crawford retaining his title by unanimous decision.

-Randy G.

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SouthPawFlo:

Very Well Written

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Radam G:

"After almost 5 years of this back and forth "what if" type talk, I think until the fight is signed and be venue is set, there should be no more topics about Floyd vs May...

Floyd is gonna have his fans. And Manny will have his.


Floyd will win because of A,B,C
manny will win because of D,E,F


Floyd will win because look at how this guy looked against Manny
Manny will win because look at how that guy did against Floyd





Same Debate.

Nothing is gonna change until they settle it in the ring."


I'm with you. Holla!

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SouthPawFlo:

After almost 5 years of this back and forth "what if" type talk, I think until the fight is signed and be venue is set, there should be no more topics about Floyd vs May...



Floyd is gonna have his fans. And Manny will have his.





Floyd will win because of A,B,C

manny will win because of D,E,F





Floyd will win because look at how this guy looked against Manny

Manny will win because look at how that guy did against Floyd











Same Debate.



Nothing is gonna change until they settle it in the ring.

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TotoyBato:

What we saw was a separation of two class levels. Manny Pacquiao is a master boxer in the A class. Chris Algieri is a good C class fighter. Another one of those kickboxer/wannabe boxer with wide karate stance & hand techniques. Algieri visualized his fight plan but could not execute. He was like a deer frozen by headlights. He was in flight mode from the very first Pacman punch that landed. Calling that being too defensive is too kind. Algieri was running for his safety and was never trying to fight. Top Rank hype machine delivered a showcase of Manny Pacquiao boxing ability against a harmless opponent. If Brandon Rios was a walking Heavy Bag, Algieri was a walking double ended speed bag. Manny's sparring partners were bigger and way better boxers than Algieri.

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brownsugar:

Beltran is solid as a block of granite but he's as basic as a box of Bisquick PanCake Mix ( just add water).

Crawford could get a late round TKO if he stays focused and uses his far better and more varied skills.

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brownsugar:

Great detailing Commish. Algieri has the cardio vascular part down pat... And he's young enough to improve.

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Radam G:

"Once Floyd beat Manny he will be TBE.:rolleyes:"

You are back from deployment, hum? Everytime you come back with fantasies of Money May's might. Keep dreaming! He would never beat Da Manny in a game of anything or a fight. Hills!

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TotoyBato:

Once Floyd beat Manny he will be TBE.:rolleyes:

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stormcentre:

Good write up Randy.



Nothing beats experience except youth.



But even then it's only when;



a) The experience's author is too old to meaningfully use all the experience.



b) The youth's owner/author has enough experience to ensure his advantage works.



Kovalev and Hopkins and several of James' Toney's recent fights may be examples.



As will the upcoming Provodkinov V Castillo bout.



:cool:

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flackoguapo:

Wow cool stuff. The way I see it is that Pacquaio chooses his spots a lot better now so he lands that left more which means he's less likely to get caught when he goes in for that "shift punch". Before he would do that sequence 5 times every 15 seconds it seemed and he did overreach a bit. I would like to know what C-AL really says on why he lost. He's an articulate dude and it'd be interesting...

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Radam G:

"Algieri needs a fight night trainer. Lots of guys know nuances IMO but training and guiding a guy to win big fights under pressure when its all said and done is a different beast. Good thing GC has been there and done that.

@Radam, after Manny throws that signature straight left and follows with his back foot he instantly throws the right and brings that foot forward. The momentum and pop he creates while staying balanced is crazy... but anyways what do you call that punch? I guess we can call it a straight right but that doens't do it justice and it's not even cocked back, he's almost floating when he throws it but pushes off the ground enough to get force. How long has he thrown that punch and do you feel like he's perfected it over the years? It's a little on the dangerous side of things but I feel like he has done way more damage with it then he's received..."


The oldtimers here know that I call that shot: "Da Pinoy Whuppa Whop." It is a form of what is known as "Shift punching." Da Manny has always thrown it. Even in the amateurs. But no joke coach Freddie Roach improved it by correcting Da Manny's overreaching and clumsiness.

All great boxer have some form of shift punching. And it is not dangerous as you might believe. It is done in a way where the opponent has to turn to find you. Thus, by the time that he turns to find you, you are gone. This type of move is also known as burning and turning. And it is so stealth, that pugs have to eat the shots and reset. Holla!

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The Commish:

"This is the type of body snatching that C-Al should be doing. Not fancy footing all over the darn place and getting tag with those big-arse shots that get him knocked on his arse. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts4Y1KE-Eyg. Holla!"

Thanks for putting that up, Radam. I am going to show it to Cooney.

I would love to see him step in and replace Tim Lane.

-Randy G.

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