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The Shadow:

Lol thanks... Did we get the winners announced??

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amayseng:

Wow



is this legit? Is it done?



if its in AC im going

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Skibbz:

Sweet music to my ears. The future doesn't look so bleak, we may start getting some really good cards on HBO!

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deepwater2:

I think this is a great fight. I rather see Kovelev vs Hokpins. Oscar stepped up, Main Events stepped up. Hopkins will return to HBO which means that Golden Boy Productions is back at HBO. HBO cut ties with Golden Boy due to the Swiss banker and some adviser. This fight is good for boxing. Stevenson backed out of his fight after he made a deal so he is on the outside looking on the inside.

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The Shadow:

"Power to Haymon, he made himself the power broker he is!. If anybody here ( barclay and Cinci) looks bad it will be Oscar and not Haymon. fans want to see the best match-ups possible from a fan point of View. Just saying what if the rating don't do so good, which will reflect in future purses, Does Haymon budge at the request of the promoter and match the fighter with stiffer competition on paper?. You know there is no easy fight out there for these boxers. Whach you think?"

The promoters and networks are the ones who decide, ultimately. All managers want a card like that one.

Three of your guys fighting relatively safe fights for decent money?? Come on. They would all love to have that.

I'm sure if the ratings don't show it, they'll be forced to show something better. I probably won't watch the card but I'm going to reserve judgment on the matchmaking until we see how the fights play out.

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riverside:

"The backlash would be misguided, though. Don't blame the manager, blame the promoter. You know that, bro.

The manager is just doing his job. Every single manager in boxing would do the absolute same thing he's doing and they wish that they could.

Cameron Dunkin, for instance, vows to never match his guys, which is smart. Haymon is proposing certain fights but it's up to the promoter to say no.

If he says yes, he's the one to blame, essentially."


Power to Haymon, he made himself the power broker he is!. If anybody here ( barclay and Cinci) looks bad it will be Oscar and not Haymon. fans want to see the best match-ups possible from a fan point of View. Just saying what if the rating don't do so good, which will reflect in future purses, Does Haymon budge at the request of the promoter and match the fighter with stiffer competition on paper?. You know there is no easy fight out there for these boxers. Whach you think?

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Skibbz:

Mattyhsse Ortiz will be the fight of the card. Ortiz is in good shape and will come and meet Matthysse. After what Molina did he will find some heart and take it to the presumed aggressor I hope.

As for Broner, well now that Taylor beat Mayfield and he lost to the newly crowned 140 belt-warmer Algieri, on paper at least he looks like a relatively strong opponent. I hope Broner's lack of work rate finds him on the wrong end of a decision though, but if Broner steps it up he should beat Emmanuel..

Broner Berto coming up in the future?

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deepwater2:

"I hear you deep, kind of seems as Haymon is flexing his muscle towards Oscar, there gotta be some mistrust between Oscar and Haymon! The fans need to be reaching a boiling point were the they will backlash toward Haymon. we want to see good boxing matches. For the record We were contacted by the Haymon team, but were advise before hand not to communicate with them. These are two lousy cards At barclay and Now Cinci. have the trademarks of Haymon, with Oscars face disagreeing behind the curtain."



I think you are right. Oscar has to act like a professional and have some of these cream puff cards happen while he fixes everything at his company. The Showtime boss and Haymon allow these match ups, so Oscar has to go along with it for the time being.



Broner already had an easy fight last time out against Molina(And did not look impressive) who never even fought at the weight. Now he is getting another easy one.



How does Andre Berto vs TBA get a TV spot at this point in time? He should be at the Buffalo Run Casino in Oklahoma off TV .

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Skibbz:

"I will be going to the Hopkins vs Kovalev fight. This might be the perfect time to implement the new "Sweet Science Prize".

A press laminate to go backstage and ringside.

Just kidding but will accept said prize if it ever does exist."


Hahaha that sounds like a good gig, Hopkins is an exemplrary human being and fighter. Toledo needs to write a biography on the great pugilist entitled Man of War. Even if he loses, which I don't necessarily think that he will but note that one punch from the Russian can send your through a mile of treacle, he will be remembered as someone who strove toward glory, no glory was great enough and he always wanted more. That's a class fighter for me.

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Skibbz:

"Yes! Three g can and will be a superstar, as long as he is match correctly with no chances and no hopes. But if you match him against SOG, he will be ruined. Holla!"

What makes you so certain RG?

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The Shadow:

"At the informal press conference last Saturday, I noticed that challenger Blake Caparello looked almost frail in comparison to Kovalev.



Caparello is not known for being a big walloper. He has six KO's among his 19 victories. I just don't see his pesky jab being able to keep the Krusher at bay.



Chalk up another KO victory for Krusher Kovalev.



Hopefully, the KJrusher will get to face B-Hop next.



After tomorrow's fight, start getting your PxP ratings together. Will Krusher make it into the Top 10?



-Randy G"




Heck no! He ain't that good.



As for him fighting the thought of Golovkin or what have you, 3K is not thinking about Golovkin AT ALL!



And good for him that he's not. Because if he does, he'll start having flashbacks to his Big Bear California thrashings that ran him to the refuge of the Sunshine State where he's safe.



This guy may hit hard but his psyche isn't as rock hard. And now he wants to face the one guy who exploits even the smallest windows of self-doubt?!



His handlers better be careful. We could have a dot-com bubble like implosion here where the principals are stuck with a useless asset in the wake of the crash -- a crash called "Alien Conspiracy."



If he doesn't win, his days as a top-level fighter will be over. Because he will not recover, mentally.

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The Shadow:

"I hear you deep, kind of seems as Haymon is flexing his muscle towards Oscar, there gotta be some mistrust between Oscar and Haymon! The fans need to be reaching a boiling point were the they will backlash toward Haymon. we want to see good boxing matches. For the record We were contacted by the Haymon team, but were advise before hand not to communicate with them. These are two lousy cards At barclay and Now Cinci. have the trademarks of Haymon, with Oscars face disagreeing behind the curtain."

The backlash would be misguided, though. Don't blame the manager, blame the promoter. You know that, bro.

The manager is just doing his job. Every single manager in boxing would do the absolute same thing he's doing and they wish that they could.

Cameron Dunkin, for instance, vows to never match his guys, which is smart. Haymon is proposing certain fights but it's up to the promoter to say no.

If he says yes, he's the one to blame, essentially.

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The Shadow:

Don't like this fight at all. I wanted a unification of the belts that matter, along with the lineal championship.

I just want everyone to please remember how they're talking about 3K right now and remember to give a Hopkins proper credit once he clinically dismantles him.

Just curious, do you guys thinks this is a better fight than Stevenson? If so, how so?

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deepwater2:

"In Bk or AC. Wow. Either a new star takes over or the legend grows. Its a win-win for fans like us. Thanks Hopkins! I hope Adonis Stevenson learns a thing or two."



I will be going to the Hopkins vs Kovalev fight. This might be the perfect time to implement the new "Sweet Science Prize".



A press laminate to go backstage and ringside.



Just kidding but will accept said prize if it ever does exist.

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riverside:

"Broner's opponent, Taylor was only fighting 6 rounders or less 3 fights before his last one. Taylor just had a hard fight and is expected to be in top shape so soon? This is the second hand picked opponent in a row for the individual known as the problem. All the cards are stacked in Broner's favor due to the shadow Al Haymon's invisible hand. If Berto is on the card I wonder which valet parking attendant Haymon will get for him to box."

I hear you deep, kind of seems as Haymon is flexing his muscle towards Oscar, there gotta be some mistrust between Oscar and Haymon! The fans need to be reaching a boiling point were the they will backlash toward Haymon. we want to see good boxing matches. For the record We were contacted by the Haymon team, but were advise before hand not to communicate with them. These are two lousy cards At barclay and Now Cinci. have the trademarks of Haymon, with Oscars face disagreeing behind the curtain.

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The Commish:

QUOTE=amayseng;60094]Come on RG I implore you, take a look, Kovalev has very good timing."

Without question, Amayseng. The Krusher has much better timing than opponents think and much more skill than people give him credit for.

They think he is strictly a guy who walks straight in, cranks 'em up and throws. Not so. I think we will see the patience and boxing ability of The Krusher this weekend, as he is in with a guy who will unquestionably be on the move from the opening bell.

I think you'll see an array of skills from the Krusher this fight, but his critics will say, "He was in against a guy who couldn't punch."

Bring on B-Hop.

THAT should be a terrific fight!

-Randy G

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deepwater2:

Broner's opponent, Taylor was only fighting 6 rounders or less 3 fights before his last one. Taylor just had a hard fight and is expected to be in top shape so soon? This is the second hand picked opponent in a row for the individual known as the problem. All the cards are stacked in Broner's favor due to the shadow Al Haymon's invisible hand. If Berto is on the card I wonder which valet parking attendant Haymon will get for him to box.

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dino da vinci:

Can this even be considered a question at this point? He's not only already a superstar, but boxing's next great monster.

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amayseng:

No surprise one beating this year was enough for Broner, Lucas would have put it on him worse than Chino did

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oubobcat:

I would have much preferred to see Broner-Matthysse like everyone else. I think a lot of us are judging this card with the card next week at the Barclays. There is no disputing that this card is better. Emanuel Taylor has a better chance of beating Broner than any of the three underdog opponents on the Barclays card next week.

That said, Taylor is not a top 10 Jr. Welterweight either. He's not even top 20. Taylor does have skills but has never really put it altogether. Yes he did beat Karim Mayfield his last time out but Mayfield looked terrible for most of that fight. I think it was more of what Mayfield didn't do or doesn't have anymore (not that he had a ton but has fallen off in his last two fights a lot).

Look, I understand that a boxer cannot fight tough opponents every time out. However, when you talk the way Broner does and speak so highly of yourself but your 2014 schedule of opponents is Carlos Molina and Emanuel Taylor that leaves a lot to be desired. If Broner were fighting four or five times and these were two opponents and he fought better ones as well, no big deal. But when you fight twice a year and these are the opponents you come up with while proclaiming to be a super star and top pound for pound fighter who is "About Billions," give me a break.

And for Golden Boy who was making a promise to deliver the best fights this is not a good start. The new direction though is still in its infancy stages so I am willing to give another pass. They do need time to put their plan into place and in the mean time still need to be making fights. But as fans, we are watching closely. You promised "the fights the fans want to see." It will soon be time to start delivering. We want to believe you, I want to believe you. Like I said, I am giving a pass here again. But don't tell me this is what fans really want to see...what we want to see is Broner-Matthysse and not Broner-Taylor.

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oubobcat:

"I agree. A Krusher KO will be on the menu.I also think Caparello will try and move and make it a very boring fight for as long as he can. I do not think he wants to win the fight just make it to the final bell. That will be like a win for him.

I think Kovalev should stay at whatever P4P spot he is at right now even if he runs over Caparello.

GGG deserves to take a step up on that P4P list because Geale was at the top of the division and got beaten like a novice."


I respect Caparello for stepping up to take on the challenge but think Kovalev is going to destroy him.

Unlike Provodnikov more than a month ago when he faced a slicker boxer, Kovalev can cut off the ring. Those escape routes that Algieri was allowed won't be allowed for Caparello. I think this fight resembles the Campillo fight for Kovalev but maybe a little easier.

I do agree that GGG deserves a step up based on his win over Geale. I won't move Kovalev up yet regardless of his performance against Caparello (I already have Kovalev ranked fairly high). But Kovalev is charging up those rankings and mark my words he will soon be in a top five spot.

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oubobcat:

I think right now Golovkin is a bit ahead of Kovalev. But I also think Kovalev will soon surpass Golovkin.

This is absolutely not a knock on Golovkin. I think he is the real deal. But I think Kovalev is something really special.

We all know Kovalev can punch. He has legitimate one punch KO power. But he is also very skilled. He knows how to cut the ring off effectively (we will see this on display Saturday). He knows how to set up his punches. He uses his jab and excellent footwork to set up the best angles to land his shots. And as amayseng pointed out, his timing is brilliant.

Also, what Kovalev does in the ring to me seems to come very natural. He is very fluid and is not thinking too much but just naturally reacting. Watch him carefully on Saturday and see this...I think he is much more fluid than Golovkin.

Golovkin has fought better fighters but given time Kovalev will face his share of capable fighters. When Kovalev does, I believe he will shine. And that is when I believe he will move past Golovkin.

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deepwater2:

"At the informal press conference last Saturday, I noticed that challenger Blake Caparello looked almost frail in comparison to Kovalev.



Caparello is not known for being a big walloper. He has six KO's among his 19 victories. I just don't see his pesky jab being able to keep the Krusher at bay.



Chalk up another KO victory for Krusher Kovalev.



Hopefully, the KJrusher will get to face B-Hop next.



After tomorrow's fight, start getting your PxP ratings together. Will Krusher make it into the Top 10?



-Randy G"




I agree. A Krusher KO will be on the menu.I also think Caparello will try and move and make it a very boring fight for as long as he can. I do not think he wants to win the fight just make it to the final bell. That will be like a win for him.



I think Kovalev should stay at whatever P4P spot he is at right now even if he runs over Caparello.



GGG deserves to take a step up on that P4P list because Geale was at the top of the division and got beaten like a novice.

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Radam G:

"Come on RG I implore you, take a look, Kovalev has very good timing."

I agree that he has great timing against scary cats. They try to survive, not thrive. When Kovalev get a pitbull, a fox or a mongoose, the world will see that he is too tight, not loose. Holla!

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amayseng:

"Lol, right! Thanks, man. But believe it or not, Skibbz and The Commish (somehow) have set a far more torrid pace than I! So some active newcomers in the last year.



But no doubt, these two weeks have been action packed. And good to see you firing on all cylinders too. And even a Bernie sighting here and there!



We really just need the caveman to bust out the graphics. And since he won't, I will do the honors for him:



117



118



By El Shadow."




Absolutely hilarious.



Day one and it has already begun.





well done El Shadow

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amayseng:

"Well said the Shadow. It really was an action packed two weeks with Arne at the helm. We at TSS are all glad you joined. You bring a lot to an already jam packed table.

2,649 posts in one year, wow. If you stay healthy and continue at your I have no life pace, you could surpass the great Radam G one day as the all time leading poster! Or maybe get another hobby, go take a walk outside, marry a girl, have a kid. Or not. Just breaking your balls bro, good to have you on the team."




haha



What a great start on day ONE .



Wow it is going to be a close contest.

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Radam G:

Yes! Three g can and will be a superstar, as long as he is match correctly with no chances and no hopes. But if you match him against SOG, he will be ruined. Holla!

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amayseng:

Come on RG I implore you, take a look, Kovalev has very good timing.

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Radam G:

NO for skill! But maybe yes for exaggeration. Holla!

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Radam G:

"I have a soft spot for Joe. Best heavyweight ever? Probably not. Great champion though. Good man. Quiet man. When two Ton Tony Galento said , "he never heard of the bum, and would murda him" Joe turned vicious.

It was Joe Louis vs Hitler and Joe won. I think most of his accolades come from that. I don't think he is overrated but others are underrated. Let's get more stadiums named after other boxers,more books written,and more movies made. There will always be the next great champ out there somewhere."


Nicely written. Holla!

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