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stormcentre:

Didn't Haymon just give us all Kahn V Alexander?

He must have, as I recall Sam Watson ensuring he was in most post fight interview camera frames, if not hanging off the shoulder of the fighters themselves.

:)

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Radam G:

"Haymon knows that by introducing another broadcast/network player (like the NBC) to top talent (he controls) all the belts loosen a little, and perhaps the cookie jar isn't closed so tight.

I think Haymon, like most with experience in the game's ivory towers, knows how to groom and manage "B" side fighters; so they, either are, or seem, like genuine contenders.

Aside from fame, respect, girlies, cars and all that; fighters want enough longevity in the sport to generate an income that will carry them when they retire, and in that sense Haymon seems to have the business model.

Many fighters just see the money that Mayweather is making, how he chooses who the opponent is, and that alone is a good enough advertisement to sign with Al."


Great scooping! I think you it hit on the head about tsAH. That is classic about advertisement. Holla!

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stormcentre:

Haymon knows that by introducing another broadcast/network player (like the NBC) to top talent (he controls) all the belts loosen a little, and perhaps the cookie jar isn't closed so tight.

I think Haymon, like most with experience in the game's ivory towers, knows how to groom and manage "B" side fighters; so they, either are, or seem, like genuine contenders.

Aside from fame, respect, girlies, cars and all that; fighters want enough longevity in the sport to generate an income that will carry them when they retire, and in that sense Haymon seems to have the business model.

Many fighters just see the money that Mayweather is making, how he chooses who the opponent is, and that alone is a good enough advertisement to sign with Al.

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stormcentre:

Truth be known, Lennox's dreadies and his scalp's follicular performance was well past their use by date even when he was fighting - but who's gonna tell him that?

He looks better now.

:)

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Froggy:

"Wow! I wanna go there. But the wifey ain't having it. She says that I would look like a sick Buddha suffering from malnutrition. But I bet I would like a young, sexy Filipino Kojack. Hehe! Holla!"



Maybe the wifey thinks you are right Radam G, HE, HE, HE !

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Radam G:

"Give that man a lollipop ! He inspired MMH, B-Hop, Big George Foreman, Earnie Shavers, James Toney, RJJ, Evander Holyfied, Joe Frazier, Dwight Muhammad Qawi, Mike Tyson, can't forget Butterbean, Buster Douglas, and countless others who I can't think of at the moment ! Plus many fighters before Kojack and they all look good without hair, I'm thinking of trying it myself, getting there anyhow !"

Wow! I wanna go there. But the wifey ain't having it. She says that I would look like a sick Buddha suffering from malnutrition. But I bet I would look like a young, sexy Filipino Kojack. Hehe! Holla!

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Froggy:

"Lol..



Thank God for Telly Savalas who popularized the bald look decades ago.

There used to be a time when men would try to hold onto every last strand."




Give that man a lollipop ! He inspired MMH, B-Hop, Big George Foreman, Earnie Shavers, James Toney, RJJ, Evander Holyfied, Joe Frazier, Dwight Muhammad Qawi, Mike Tyson, can't forget Butterbean, Buster Douglas, and countless others who I can't think of at the moment ! Plus many fighters before Kojack and they all look good without hair, I'm thinking of trying it myself, getting there anyhow !

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deepwater2:

Hey good for ole Mayweather for saying Ali is greater than his son. He might get fired for that.



Just imagine Ali going to a Clippers game and sticking up for that racist owner Sterling like lil Floyd did.

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brownsugar:

"Hehehe! He let his hair go because of "gradual loss." People teased him about beginning to look like Stevie Wonder. Balding up top, and looking like a clown with just the sides and back action. Holla!"

Lol..

Thank God for Telly Savalas who popularized the bald look decades ago.
There used to be a time when men would try to hold onto every last strand.

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Radam G:

"One of the more pleasant and less polarizing articles by Hauser.

I was shocked to see a photo of Lennox without his dreads a short while ago. Sometimes the letting go of the hair is due to a gradual loss which can sometimes occur in unflattering ways. Other times its a sign of transition to a more practical area of focus. I still never thought I'd see Lewis without his hair. Glad to see Lewis is still growing and adapting to his life outside the ring."


Hehehe! He let his hair go because of "gradual loss." People teased him about beginning to look like Stevie Wonder. Balding up top, and looking like a clown with just the sides and back action. Holla!

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brownsugar:

One of the more pleasant and less polarizing articles by Hauser.

I was shocked to see a photo of Lennox without his dreads a short while ago. Sometimes the letting go of the hair is due to a gradual loss which can sometimes occur in unflattering ways. Other times its a sign of transition to a more practical area of focus. I still never thought I'd see Lewis without his hair. Glad to see Lewis is still growing and adapting to his life outside the ring.

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dino da vinci:

"Lol Deep...nearly all old men are scary(and ugly) except to their own families.

... Haymon's strength is that he manages a lot of top boxers... Its being reported that Chavez junior has expressed a desire to sign on when his contract with TR runs out.

Some of the critism is most certainly valid.

Al did use Floyd for years as a bargaining chip against HBO to get his lesser known fighters extra exposure. With Floyd being the top earner in the sport and one of the top performers and high ratings earner for HBO . .. Concessions were made.

One of those was the development of a guy like Berto who simply just came with the package.

Its interesting that Haymon is supposedly connecting with NBC for a new mainstream venture.

NBC has a history of airing some great contests going all the way back to when they used to air Amateur boxing. ....50 years ago I watched these shows as kid.

If you Remember SportsWorld you'll know NBC rarely puts on a dud.

NBC has aired a bevy of local favorites as well with guys like Adamek, Cunningham, Darden, and even Kovalev dating back as recently as about two years ago.

NBC seems to have a knack for extracting the best fights from the Philly and Tri-state areas.
One of my favorite series was Joltin' Jeff Chandler (bantamweight) the fighter with the rapid piston jab...Jeff even earned a TKO just by jabbing a guy to death... and Frank the Animal Fletcher(middleweight) the mauling volume puncher cut in the mold of James Kirkland....... Watching either of these guys was like watching Terence Crawford vs Gamboa in Omaha. Both of those fighters mothers were so wild and boisterous at ringside they made Terrence's excitable mom look like a nun by comparison. The crowd itself went completely bonkers.

Don't underestimate NBC... I don't know if they have a closet full of little old men from Vegas to advise them about boxing but NBC is savvy In fact I believe its their policy NOT to air a fight unless its going to be popular and well attended.

I remember when Bradley fought Alexander in a scary arena ( and neighborhood) in Detroit that no one went to. They had to construct a makeshift blind out of blue and white tarps to hide the empty seats.

I have never seen that on NBC.

Don't assume Al Haymon's involvement with NBC will automatically lessen the quality of their boxing programing. NBC is no joke."


Enough with the looks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with his looks and appearance. What I'm concerned with is his agenda. My understanding is he bought the airtime and of course with that he will be able to sell the allotment of advertising minutes that was agreed to. Can't imagine he would believe he stands to benefit from one-sided outings. If he indeed bought the airtime, then I'd venture you're going to get quality match-ups, or Money is taking advice from the wrong guy.

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brownsugar:

Lol Deep...nearly all old men are scary(and ugly) except to their own families.

... Haymon's strength is that he manages a lot of top boxers... Its being reported that Chavez junior has expressed a desire to sign on when his contract with TR runs out.

Some of the critism is most certainly valid.

Al did use Floyd for years as a bargaining chip against HBO to get his lesser known fighters extra exposure. With Floyd being the top earner in the sport and one of the top performers and high ratings earner for HBO . .. Concessions were made.

One of those was the development of a guy like Berto who simply just came with the package.

Its interesting that Haymon is supposedly connecting with NBC for a new mainstream venture.

NBC has a history of airing some great contests going all the way back to when they used to air Amateur boxing. ....50 years ago I watched these shows as kid.

If you Remember SportsWorld you'll know NBC rarely puts on a dud.

NBC has aired a bevy of local favorites as well with guys like Adamek, Cunningham, Darden, and even Kovalev dating back as recently as about two years ago.

NBC seems to have a knack for extracting the best fights from the Philly and Tri-state areas.
One of my favorite series was Joltin' Jeff Chandler (bantamweight) the fighter with the rapid piston jab...Jeff even earned a TKO just by jabbing a guy to death... and Frank the Animal Fletcher(middleweight) the mauling volume puncher cut in the mold of James Kirkland....... Watching either of these guys was like watching Terence Crawford vs Gamboa in Omaha. Both of those fighters mothers were so wild and boisterous at ringside they made Terrence's excitable mom look like a nun by comparison. The crowd itself went completely bonkers.

Don't underestimate NBC... I don't know if they have a closet full of little old men from Vegas to advise them about boxing but NBC is savvy In fact I believe its their policy NOT to air a fight unless its going to be popular and well attended.

I remember when Bradley fought Alexander in a scary arena ( and neighborhood) in Detroit that no one went to. They had to construct a makeshift blind out of blue and white tarps to hide the empty seats.

I have never seen that on NBC.

Don't assume Al Haymon's involvement with NBC will automatically lessen the quality of their boxing programing. NBC is no joke.

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brownsugar:

Very cryptic words..... I was watching the planet of the apes when I read Dino's thread.....As if on queue, Caesar had just spoken english to the very astonished zookeeper for the first time. This was a very powerful moment in the movie... I suspect this thread is also a fore-telling of significant changes to come in the world of boxing.

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deepwater2:

That tsAH picture sure is scary. tsAH deserves the Lampley Flurry. tsAH is selling out boxing. Lil Floyd sold out a long time ago.

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stormcentre:

"5 or 6? You are being amazingly kind with that ratio. ��"

Yep, well I was sitting back on an island, on holidays, watching the sunset, and I had had a few vodka, lime and sodas, and was feeling nice.

:)

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dino da vinci:

5 or 6? You are being amazingly kind with that ratio. ��

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stormcentre:

"Great article and great post brownsugar ! How is tsAH selling his product to NBC ? I can't believe NBC is dumb enough to put out money for one-sided fights, if they are that dumb, good, they should lose their shirt if boxing fans start watching only what is worth their time to watch !"



Yep they're that dumb.



Sorry Froggy - and it's not an attack on you - but both boxing spectators and fans (there's a difference) have been interested and enthralled for years about 2 guys fighting each other.



Knowing the sport and how it works is not necessarily a perquisite for the enjoyment until you understand what it takes to be a good fighter, what one is, and how much the advisors and promoters also know that .. and of course what they're asking us to pay in order for us to watch what they're serving up.



For every knowledgeable fan, there will always be 5 or 6 that are clueless and behaving as they have just downed their first Corona.



We mustn't compare ourselves to mere mortals - not everyone is as insightful about the sport as we are.



:cool: :D

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stormcentre:

"Muhammad Ali, who has been battling Parkinson’s disease for three decades, which started three years after his last fight against Trevor Berbick in 1981, has been hospitalized with mild pneumonia and was being treated by doctors. According to Ali’s spokesman Bob Gunnell, Ali is in a stable condition and the former heavyweight champion’s health has “vastly improved”. https://rdxsports.com/blog/muhammad-the-greatest-ali-the-champion-of-the.html"

My (personal) and perhaps unreasonably cynical interpretation of your post and also, perhaps, what Dino is saying is as follows . . . .

"Just went to check the quality of your "advertisements". This one was pumped so quick/hard but equally so ungrateful that it felt like it was written by an actor in a Vegas movie similar to the "Hangover" whom had lost their script . . as despite his cork getting popped in Vegas, and a few perfunctory sighs from her, she didn't even thank me in the morning, and now I can't find her or my wallet".

Nothing wrong with a little forum, whoops, I mean Vegas whorreing.

Just jiving.

Enjoy Xmas RDX.

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stormcentre:

"I'd keep that one out of the laboratory of imagination. Hehehe!

But if you wanna go there, I will take the kid in 81. The man in 01 had too many marital problems. Holla!"


It's Xmas and almost new year . . . your mind should be a laboratory of imagination and intoxication.

Holla.

:)

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dino da vinci:

Just went to check the quality of your redirects. This one is riddled with mistakes. Just so you know.

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dino da vinci:

I am of course referring to the '2015 Agenda', our Dear Radam.

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Radam G:

"On various threads we are finally starting to see (with any consistency) the very things I've been ranting about for what seems like forever.

It is time.

We're going to need an army of lawyers. This could get expensive."


I've heard the saying, "They know what time it is."

But DDV, you have to holla at the coded line of "It is time." Holla!

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Radam G:

"I could easily be wrong, but I think it was Bert Sugar who said let a 6 year old kid watch a fight and they will tell you who won ! Max Kellerman says at the end of a round, which fighter would you rather be, well that fighter won the round ! I don't think everyone is capable of being a judge, but most fights, it is pretty obvious who won ! Just MHO !"

A tidbit of history. It was the late, great GOATBE Bert "Luv a cigar and a fedora" Sugar who said that 30-$omething-odd-years ago. And the six-year-old kid was ______. I do get around. And the oldtimers and nowgoners got it right. Holla!

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Froggy:

I could easily be wrong, but I think it was Bert Sugar who said let a 6 year old kid watch a fight and they will tell you who won ! Max Kellerman says at the end of a round, which fighter would you rather be, well that fighter won the round ! I don't think everyone is capable of being a judge, but most fights, it is pretty obvious who won ! Just MHO !

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brownsugar:

As much money as the cable Giants pour into boxing they might as well get there own promoters license and lobby local government to act as a local commission or sanctioning body. Maybe on a limited scale at first and hire and train their own judges from a pool of tens of thousands who would cut off a limb for the opportunity to honor the position as if it truly meant something.

Rampant nepotism and the use of the "Old Boy" network only serves the whims of a chosen few.
The mafia may be gone or perhaps driven underground but the crooks remain.

Don't bother trying to school the public about the intricacies of judging, even the twitter and Facebook crowd tend to get it right. Focus on using competent judges.

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brownsugar:

Loved it Commish.

You are truly the Dr J of rhyme and reason.

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brownsugar:

"Fixing a cold is easy breezy.

The aromatherapy approach is getting you some lemon balm leaves and peppermint leaves, boil them and holla at the aroma. The head cold will be scrambling outta Dodge before sunset or an hour or two.

The Holistic approach is a pinch of the powders of cayenne pepper and cinnamon thrown in hot peppermint tea with the herb golden seal boiled in it with organic honey or a honeycomb and a couple drops of lemon juice. No head cold can take that. it will punk its way out of you before the next wake up.

The boxers in da know roll with the above all the time, because a head cold is like a choke hold to the many.

Merry C to all on the U.S. mainland. Da Manny wil bel flying that way in a minute. Holla!"


Thank you RG... I knew I could count on you..
...off to the laboratory.

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Radam G:

"With all respect to our TSS journalists and those at other outlets, we tend to ask men of this caliber the wrong questions. It's impossible to be in a room with or on the phone with a Hershman or an Espinoza and not come away with a deeply compelling, deeply enlightening slant. This type of executive doesn't luck into that type of position. These are extremely competent businessmen. CHALLENGE THEM!"

Ditto! Don't be SCAAAACRED! Holla!

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Radam G:

Wow! Getting back to tsAH. There is always talk about all the 130+ pugs that he has signed. Why does no scribe tell about the 60 that has dumped his services? Why did they leave? What types of fights are they getting now?



I guess that they got tired of tsAH of boksing Oz. Where in da double fudge is boksing Dorothy and Toto? Toto needs to dog-teeth pull those curtains. WOW! I know! "Pay that man behind the curtains no attention."



Only in boxing would you have this type of suspense. Maybe -- JUST maybe! TsAH is a relative or sumptin' of Harold Smith/Ross Field.



Money May gave this dude money a few years ago in Abu Dhabi to fix him up with one of ruling Amirs/princes. The prince even let Money May use his yacht. Holla!

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