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brownsugar:

An intriguing and evenly match fight....should be good. Jr never impressed me like his father did. Maybe he's found a way to unlock some hidden potential.

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brownsugar:

"I dont buy it my friend.



Lots of people boycotted this ppv because of Floyds poor choice in downplaying the severity of Ray Rice knocking out his woman.



They would rather keep their money than give it to Floyd, not even worrying about seeing him pay for his words."




Things are not always as they seem. I think people were also offended at the way Floyd was tossed under the bus by the media.



Its obvious that somebody was watching ... As evident by the increase in subscriptions during fight day.



As far as Ray Rice is concerned ... The NFL Players union is trying to appeal Goodel's decision to indefinitely suspend Rice. Because penalising a person twice for the same offence obstructs "due process"



Personally I don't care... But its happening.



Also there is backlash from Jim Lampleys Boxing Show.

Many still remember when Lampley plead guilty in 2007 to domestic violence and served 3 years probation along with 40 hour community service.



I don't think the country is a nation of blind sheep following the beat of a single drummer.



The police of Ferguson are supporting the cop who shot that teenager in cold blood while he had his hands raised in surrender. 5 million dollars have been raised for the cops defense even though there is clear footage of the kid being gunned down.



Who is donating all the money to a cause that spawned riots and left many in shock. I wouldn't think 5 million dollars in support would be possible ....but apparently it is.



Just saying .... Things are not so cut and dried. Not as many viewers were as deterred as it was initially predicted.



I respect your opinion of course.



However there are many dynamics at work in this instance.

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the Roast:

I never heard of this Billy Joe guy but after watching the video I like his attitude. You got to love the grudge angle, a real grudge for whatever the reason, not something forced to sell the fight.

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stormcentre:

Ezzard Charles was baaaad man.

Him and are Archie Moore are easily 2 of my favourite (and 2 of the ATG) fighters.

Check out Archie's KO ratio and absolute numbers, and who both Moore and Charles fought, if anyone wonders why.

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the Roast:

This is one of the longest running fights in TSS history. Radam G vs the legend of SRR being the best fighter of all time. I saw this article come up this morning after the Commish had made the first comment. I didn't have time to post but I would have said, "Cue Radam saying SRR was not the best ever and that he ducked the Black Murderers Row in 3,2,1..."

Tell me RG, who wins the dream fight and how at 147, Da Manny or SRR???

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stormcentre:

Volatile fight . . . firecracker thrown into a petroleum refinement plant.

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The Good Doctor:

Tarver can say all he wants, that dude is fighting for loot. He is in to Haymon for 300K. He lost most of his purse from the Kayode fight because he got popped for PED's as well.

His name will carry him far enough to get a shot but I think anybody with half a pulse will beat him. He could not beat a below average fighter in Kayode when he was on the juice. No way is he competitive with Banks, Mitchell, Haye, Vlad or any heavyweight of any merit.

I could see him getting fed to Anthony Joshua. The fight could make both of them some decent cash, plus it will give Joshua some recognition. I think Joshua would beat the brakes off of him.

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Radam G:

That "birdy" must be a small-brained dodo birdy with a short-term memory.



Knuckleheads were fibbing that Mayweather-Maidana I did a mil or 1.2mil -- whichever fib you wanted to believe. Now it is 900thou. And this Mayweather-Maidana II now mysteriously did more than 925thou, more than the first dance.



And it was not expected to do more than 700thou, because that is probably what it did.



Somebody ought to cut da crap. These bigwig inflators think between the ears ev'ybodee and dey momma have a gap. Holla!

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stormcentre:

"I loved those boxing trunks. They took us from the era of plain black & white trunks to a flashier era. If I'm correct, I think Hector "Macho" Camacho began a whole new era with his totally outlandish, colorful, wild designs.

Yes, the drawing depicted SRL in the black trunks he wore in the "No Mas" fight. The trunks he actually wore in the first fight against Hearns were white with a red waistband. Hearns also wore white trunks that night.

-Randy G."


Yep, Hector "Macho" Camacho was one of the early ones to wear (the previously laughed at) tights underneath, and other various designs that strayed from the norm.

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SouthPawFlo:

Idk if that number is true or not, but if it is I think it has more to do with Chino than Mayweather...



After how close the first fight was a lot of people really felt that Chino would be able to do a little more in the 2nd, and the All access showing Robert G. Trying to tweak certain things definitely helped... Maidana is a bonafide star after his Broner Beatdown and his good performance in his first fight, also they did a 5 city media tour for this one and the fans were definitely cheering on Chino, even in the Crowd at the fight it seemed to be more fighters rooting for Chino....





People really wanna see Floyd Lose and obviously they're willing to pay $75 to see it live on PPV.

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SouthPawFlo:

I thought this was a post about PPV buys, and I asked a question about PPV Buys, I didn't comment on anything else other than what the post was about....







Who I like as a fighter really has nothi to do with the topic, this isn't a who's your favorite fighter thread is it????

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amayseng:

Floyd is a fantastic boxer, but he is not in my top 25

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amayseng:

"Sometimes being a big illiterate dummy can pay off in America...... Only in America."

I dont buy it my friend.

Lots of people boycotted this ppv because of Floyds poor choice in downplaying the severity of Ray Rice knocking out his woman.

They would rather keep their money than give it to Floyd, not even worrying about seeing him pay for his words.

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brownsugar:

Sometimes being a big illiterate dummy can pay off in America...... Only in America.

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brownsugar:

To piggy back off what Shadow was saying earlier (and i do believe Shadow is secretly employed by tsAH... LOL...) indicators suggest a 20% increase in DISHTV (used by many hispanics)subscriptions and an increase in DirectTV and ATT subscriptions.

There is a smoking gun that can validate the unusually high buy rate.

As I said earlier, I was astonished to see professional journalists blatantly accuse Mayweather publically on national television off of prior cases he'd already been tried for and or served sentencing for.......in addition to prematurely pronouncing him guilty in connection with the allegations levelled by Ms Jackson.

This extra media attention in addition to the poor choice of comments Floyd used to respond to questions regarding Ray Rice served to pique the interest of casual fans enough to drive up subscription rates and purchases.

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amayseng:

"You are so full of man luv of Money May. Talking about infactuation.

You better watch that. Luv like that has been known to make one cross dress and start showing up at Money May's events and writing him letters.

His big uglies may have to handle you. Holla!"


hahahahaah

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Radam G:

"Can someone tell me the last non Mayweather fight that topped 900,000 buys.


Any help would be greatly appreciated."


You are so full of man luv of Money May. Talking about infactuation.

You better watch that. Luv like that has been known to make one cross dress and start showing up at Money May's events and writing him letters.

His big uglies may have to handle you. Holla!

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SouthPawFlo:

Can someone tell me the last non Mayweather fight that topped 900,000 buys.





Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Radam G:

Just about all the fighters of Sugar Ray Robinson's fight days didn't see him the way all the boxing journalists did. And nowadays, 80-percent of the pugs don't see him as boxing journalists, fanboys, fanfaronades, groupies and go-alone-to-get tribes do.



After seeing him on film, it is not many boxers nowadays under 40 years old that believe SRR is the P4P GOAT.



You now have a seeing generation, more than just a looking and listening one. You may not believe what you see, but you see what you believe. And the brain plays tricks -- BIG ones -- on the lookers, not the seers.



A seer sees. A looker suffers from inattentional blindness.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN1NAiM55hU,



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz7hj_YC3j0



Holla!

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The Shadow:

"It would be far more informative to know Showtime's profit margin on Maidana episode 2.

That would give us more of an indication than straight PPV buys, which are most likely doctored.

I want to know how much money Showtime are making after everyone's been given their cut; whether it's as much as they were hoping to make off Floyd's back, and whether they have an issue with the amount they're making. OK they may be doing 950'000 PPV buys, but that's irrelevant until we know what they want/need for their profits."


They mostly make money off subscriptions. Tons of revenue but Showtime's cut is only like 5-7%.

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oubobcat:

I know its not a marquee card but still glad to see boxing on regular NBC this week. I wish we'd see more of it...maybe one day.

And buried in the Iron Mike press release is the return of Rod Salka. This time, he will actually be fighting a guy more his size.

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Radam G:

Typical! I'd not expect anything less. Tribal lines always stand over actuality of the reality. Holla!

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oubobcat:

Tarver still has hopes of getting a big fight at heavyweight and will probably get something in the not so distant future. I don't doubt the injury in this case as I think he believed, and probably correctly so, he could beat Banks and then start calling out the big names.

Personally, I think he is angling for Haye if and when Haye comes out of retirement. That would be one attention grabbing fight to say the least and I am sure Mr. Tarver would be well compensated (as would Mr. Haye).

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Kid Blast:

My top ten since 1944:



1. Sugar Ray Robinson

2. Willie Pep

3. Joe Louis

4. Eder Jofre

5. Muhammad Ali

6. Carlos Monzon

7. Sandy Saddler

8. Sugar Ray Leonard

9. Roberto Duran

10. Ezzard Charles

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thegreyman:

"I think we're missing the point here, close to one million people were left out of pocket. Robbed by a poor bill, an affair which didn't live up to the Mayhem tag and as has become the standard series of events regarding Mayweather; an intoxicating and scintillating campaign of hype before the fight and a borefest when the fight begins. I give thanks for BoxNation and praise HBO PPV's for never boring me to sleep."

Did you forget? Pretty Boy's a back robber...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82ND3fmrKlw&t=5m33s

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thegreyman:

It would be far more informative to know Showtime's profit margin on Maidana episode 2.

That would give us more of an indication than straight PPV buys, which are most likely doctored.

I want to know how much money Showtime are making after everyone's been given their cut; whether it's as much as they were hoping to make off Floyd's back, and whether they have an issue with the amount they're making. OK they may be doing 950'000 PPV buys, but that's irrelevant until we know what they want/need for their profits.

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deepwater2:

Thanks guys. My heart is with BJS but like you guys pointed out Eubank has been working very hard, he was in Froch's last camp holding his own in sparring. I never knew this but his dad shipped him off to Cuba to learn the hard way. I think it's close to even fight. The press conferences with the Eubanks are going to be pretty entertaining. I expect a tough fight, I can see either guy winning but I see BJS taking the risks to win the fight.

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thegreyman:

Damn it D2 I was just about to post a thread on this!

Great video, the Irish traveller community are surely one of the best at trash talk- genuinely original each time! Love it!

The problem is though, that Eubank Jr is seriously skilled, has a great trainer, and keeps in phenomenal physical condition. This will be his 7th (SEVENTH fight of the year, but only the second for Billy Joe- we know who will be more comfortable coming into the ring.

Eubank has looked good in every fight too. Powerful, fast, intelligent- a little too much posturing for my liking but there's no denying the man can fight.

I'm expecting Eubank Jr to win in what should be a great domestic bout, in what has been a fantastic year for British boxing.

What's you prediction on the fight D2?

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Skibbz:

Great find. I think the points you outlined are right. You can be sure a large proportion of the travel community will be placing money on BJS to get the job done, and if they lose their money it will be on BJS's head.



I think he's a very good fighter but his fitness lets him down so much. It's a shame. I think Eubank Jr will do it.. Too much skill and in too great a condition... Although this is a massive step up from fighting road sweepers and cab drivers.

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thegreyman:

I can imagine there would be turmoil in the organisation with the situation they have.

Serial losers in their stable, identity issues; naturally leading to promotional issues as they struggle to create any fresh appeal or interest in their brand, amidst a new crop of young, exciting and extremely skilled fighters.

If all your promotional company has to promote is quite frankly a bit s**t, then there will be problems, and the top man would gladly blame those around him rather than turn his criticism inwards.

Unfortunately, Floyd seems to be becoming more reserved, alone and and cold hearted. Such is the way with all men with absolute power, who remain at the top too long.

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