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The Commish:

Very interesting. Cooney has become very close with the President of Everlast. I must show this to Cooney later.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

That was a fantastic robe. I've gotta' ask Ray if he still has his robes in storage or did he give them all to charity auctions.

Another Ray is gonna' be on the air with me tonight--Ray Mancini. He is gonna' be in-studio. I wonder if he has any of his robes or trunks?

-Randy G.

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The Good Doctor:

"Daryl Anthony handed Mark Breland his only loss as an amateur. In the pros, Breland slapped him around and stopped him.

I have a feeling though, on Saturday night, GGG will repeat his victory over Geale from 14 years ago.

This time, it'll be by late round stoppage.

-Randy G."



I think you are spot on with the GGG prediction Commish. The matchup when referring to amateurs that comes to my mind is Kelson Pinto and Cotto. Pinto beat Cotto in the amateurs and then Cotto beat him to a pulp in 6 rounds in their pro bout. Amateur fights matter but good fighters always evolve from what their amateur showings were.

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The Shadow:

"It must have been a dream then. You were in it the Shadow, I think we were naked."

Hahahaha, you crack me up...

Perhaps it was a dream. Or it might have been euphoria post Broner-Maidana, an euphoria that had the Roast dancing like this: http://www.freestylewriters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/usher.gif

Cutting a rug, baby!

Yeah. I'm pretty sure that was it. Reaching a bit, I think.

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the Roast:

I don't know about trading cards but I would like to get my hands on a famous robe. Just to have it, walk around the house in it on fight night, bounce around, throw some punches. I'd like the SRL robe from the Hearns Showdown fight. Deliverance on the back. Learned that from the Commish. Looking forward to that chapter.

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the Roast:

"Did I or did I not read on these very pages of TSS that Stormcentre and Kostya Tszyu are one and the same? I am pretty sure the Shadow was a part of the discussion that night. Am I right or am I remembering this wrong?"



It must have been a dream then. You were in it the Shadow, I think we were naked.

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The Shadow:

"Enuf of that useless Statue of David Perez! Talk about lack of Mobility! Does fres oquendo have anything booked! Comn USA cant you guys dig anything out of the crevises?"



Fres just fought, Friscoe! Are you forgetful of the battles there?!

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The Commish:

"Am I the only one who's aware that Golovkin beat Geale once before? That was way back in 2001 in Japan, so I wouldn't try to infer much from it.

Shucks, Henry Tillman beat Mike Tyson in the amateurs which meant nothing when they hooked up again as professionals."


Daryl Anthony handed Mark Breland his only loss as an amateur. In the pros, Breland slapped him around and stopped him.

I have a feeling though, on Saturday night, GGG will repeat his victory over Geale from 14 years ago.

This time, it'll be by late round stoppage.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

"Put Jennings in there with a rusty ol a-- Wach, and the boy wouldnt know difference between North and South!"


This is why we love ya' Bernie.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Lol! I just know most of you guys are gonna' be watching.

Find out whih one of your friends will be buying it. Then tell him you're coming over with wings and beer. He'll be inviting you right away!

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Bert Sugar was a major collector of "memorabilia." My wife calls it "stuff."

He owned seats from the Polo Grounds, the old Madison Square Garden & the former Yankee Stadium. He had jackets worn by Jack Dempsey and Joe Louis and a hat worn by Jack Johnson. He had more memorabilia (stuff) than I have words in this post!

He had a typewriter owned by Nat Fleischer and a pen owned by Bat Masterson. He had a comb used by Max Baer. He had trunks worn in a fight by Cassius Clay and he had a license signed by Cus D'Amato.

My guess is, the memorabilia (stuff) he had is now in the hands of his beautiful widow, Susie, or his kids, J.B. & Jennifer.

Or, they may have been donated to the International Boxing Hall of Fame.

I know they have the typewriter he used, along with one of his hats and a cigar.

Oh, I love my KO Boxing Cards from the early '90's. Two of the cards from that set hang in my home office: Bert Sugar and me!

What great memorabilia! What great stuff!

-Randy G.

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ArneK.:

Dino -- I'm guessing you have your reasons for not identifying it. What era are we talking about?

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dino da vinci:

Yes there is. But compared to the prices of the most sort after baseball cards, there's not much to talk about.

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Radam G:

There are no trading cards that I know of. But there are plenty of posters going all the way back to bareknuckle days of the "Boston Strong Boy." Holla!

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The Shadow:

"I am curious about this new (blood)sport and will watch because of my curiosity and the fact that it will be talked about here and I want to be able to discuss it with you and share opinions.

I hated MMA from the start and even banned it in New York--where it incredibly remains banned. However, I enjoy it now. I am sure the Nevada State Athletic Commission has come up with a complete set of rules for this pit combat or whatever it is being called.

Why Rosado and Vera? My guess is that they both know their earning potential in boxing is very limited at this point, and have been offered a few more dollars to rumble in the pit.

Whenever this pit combat takes place, I'll be watching.

Will you?

-Randy G."


It honestly sounds a bit bizarre but I like to see and think outside the box and I'm not afraid of change.

My first thought was XFL, as well. And while it's geared towards offense, for one, that does seem to be what the audience craves.

Secondly, just because there are no ropes doesn't mean the contestants won't move. And it doesn't make it barbaric. (Keep in mind, guys, the principle is no different than a slugger negotiating a smaller ring against a mover so he can cut him off and chop him down.)

Speaking from personal experience, I've fought in "pits" - squares, really - too in Miami where the punishment for stepping outside the square was 25 push-ups.

I still did my usual moving, juking and jiving along with some upper-body movement.

Thirdly, I'm sort of intrigued by the fact that it doesn't count against their records, which allows fighters to at take greater risks without fear of losing rankings and earnings potential in boxing.

It also allows for some pretty cool potential match-ups between MMA and boxing guys. Imagine seeing a Nick Diaz vs Kelly Pavlik?

Finally, and perhaps more importantly, it allows another avenue for the mid-level guys to compete and make some money. Let's face it, outside of the top slots on premium cable, there aren't really that many opportunities for guys like Rosado and Vera.

Rosado has pretty much been relegated to Koko B. Ware, Virgil or Great Khali status -- a glorified jobber-to-the-stars (JTTS). He's pretty much just an opponent and that's a crappy place to be.

At the end of the day, when MMA started out, as Commish points out, it was looked at at some barbaric sideshow.

When you consider the major outcry over the way Erislandy Lara just fought, I don't understand the sudden displeasure over the supposed barbaric nature we have yet to see.

Yeah, it sounds odd, it sounds unconventional but I personally think it's cool there's some innovation and some guys around willing to try some new things to put combat sports to the forefront and provide opportunities for fighters to earn a living.

I don't know, it has like a "grunge" feel to it. I'm intrigued. I'd like to see what they can pull before passing judgment either way.

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brownsugar:

The average weight of all men on the planet is 137 lbs.

The average weight of men in the U.S. is 178 lbs ...

That's why the middle weight division has so much appeal
The average guy can identify with that weight.
Its small enough to be mobile and agile.... yet big enough to stagger or even drop a heavy weight.
I thinks its the most sensational and majestic weight class in boxing.
And its my favorite division.

It's history is epic..

And fighters like GGG are bringing it back.

Get ready for a new era.

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Radam G:

"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I remember even James Toney started getting muscles.

TMT loves the women, especially Roger and Big Floyd. Check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QkWJCadCFU

You think that's why guys juice??

I still maintain that it works, if nothing else because it allows you to train harder and recover faster. And just look at a guy like Gamboa off vs on.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was back on vs. Crawford but his stupidity and miniature frame ultimately befell him."


C'mon, the Shadow! Don't provide proof about da he-hos. That is why they use that syet. It about da bodee and drawing da nasty action. Hehehe! The roids-and-PEDs peddlers will start increasing service fees if they get in da loop of knowing da real real.

And no matter how much help dat syet gives you the power to workout, it doesn't help you to think out. So on dat syet and the slow thinking that it causes because of messing up and with your Mother Nature's perfect anatomical electrical system, it is of nano benefits. Holla!

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brownsugar:

It must be the end of the world

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brownsugar:

"What bout Julio Cesar Chavez? Roger May? Ben Tackie? James Leija, Urkal, Gonzalez and Hurtado? Some of them were great boxers, others were top class contenders who were just below the level of a true champion.



Kostya fought the best around, he wasn't interested in jumping up and down weightclasses, he knew where he wanted to establish himself and dominate and that's what he did.



Forget the names of his opponents, he fought the best around and he wanted the best to compete against him. Not everyone jumps up and down weightclasses, it has always been rare in the history of the sport, until more recent times when thanks to much greater knowledge around the human anatomy that fighters are able to move up and down weightclasses and still be able to compete. If he would have fought Mosley in his prime he would have beaten him, same for Oscar.



I say that because he was a special talent, Tszyu. His timing was phenomonal and off the end of his timekeeping he packed a punch that would knock out a yak.



As for Mosley, he avoided the light welter division. He was either at lightweight, or he jumped straight up to welterweight. He could have challenged and fought Kostya who was the undisputed king of the Light Welterweight division but he avoided that fight. The champ doesn't have to call out opponents, or certainly Kostya wouldn't, he waits for worthy opponents to challenge him and faces them in the ring.



As for Oscar, I believe he was on a collision course with Kostya, but Oscar vacated his light welter title and moved onto 147lbs before facing a challenge from the Thunder from Down Under.



And Floyd was a super feather weight when Tszyu was in his prime. By the time Kostya was getting ready to leave the sport, Mayweather finally moved up to light welterweight.



Those are the facts, we can agree to disagree but I stand by it what I've said, Kostya is an elite champion, and one of the best the 140lb division has ever had."




I think KT was a fabulous fighter Skibbz ... My initial response to the topic was to illustrate my opinion regarding KT and GGG.

Not to tarnish the memory of KT. But to illustrate the many reasons why I believe there is no comparison between the two.



I respect you and your opinion. If you want to start a KT debate on a new KT thread I'll be glad to elaborate further. Until then.... I've appreciated your contribution to the discussion.

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The Commish:

I am curious about this new (blood)sport and will watch because of my curiosity and the fact that it will be talked about here and I want to be able to discuss it with you and share opinions.

I hated MMA from the start and even banned it in New York--where it incredibly remains banned. However, I enjoy it now. I am sure the Nevada State Athletic Commission has come up with a complete set of rules for this pit combat or whatever it is being called.

Why Rosado and Vera? My guess is that they both know their earning potential in boxing is very limited at this point, and have been offered a few more dollars to rumble in the pit.

Whenever this pit combat takes place, I'll be watching.

Will you?

-Randy G.

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deepwater2:

Lil Floyd doesn't need to juice to get woman. He buys them gifts and gives them cash.



Floyd needs Testosterone replacement therapy to grow his goatee.

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Radam G:

"Radam thinks like an old-school trainer. Billy Delaney, who trained Corbett and Jeffries, believed that the value of any exercise was enhanced if done outdoors. But by outdoors they meant the countryside, away from where the factories belched out smoke."

Exactly! Factory smoke is making a lot of people choke. And innercity smog makes a pug ugly as a sickly fat hog. Holla!

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ArneK.:

My favorite division is whatever division is "hosting" the next big fight.

It's interesting to note that in the upper divisions -- 168 pounds and above -- there are more Top 10 fighters from the Eastern bloc than from the U.S. The imbalance is most pronounced in the Heavyweight and Cruiserweight divisions where we find only three Americans compared with 3 Russians, 3 Ukrainians, 2 Poles, and a Bulgarian. (These numbers were culled from The Ring magazine ratings.)

U.S. boxers dominate the Junior Middleweight and, to as lesser extent, Welterweight divisions. As we drop lower, U.S. boxers become scarce and boxers from Mexico, the Philippines, and Asia become predominant. This is nothing new. Fighters from outside the U.S. have always dominated the lowest weight classes.

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The Shadow:

" Looking sexy gets you mad sex. Making 'em hos run to freaky-deaky arses, it puts an hex. Holla!"



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I remember even James Toney started getting muscles.



TMT loves the women, especially Roger and Big Floyd. Check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QkWJCadCFU



You think that's why guys juice??



I still maintain that it works, if nothing else because it allows you to train harder and recover faster. And just look at a guy like Gamboa off vs on.



I wouldn't be surprised if he was back on vs. Crawford but his stupidity and miniature frame ultimately befell him.

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Radam G:

"No idea. He's mentioned having 24/7-365 drug testing in his stable but I haven't heard of it being implemented yet.

Storm, I'm still digesting the other points fully!"


The stable of TMT under Money May have been caught dirty more than any other stables. The corrupted NSAC always gives them a slap on the wrist because they are good at getting quacky doctors -- probably Dr. Murray's cousins -- to give excuses of usages to correct pending medical problems.

TMT stables of pugs don't use roids and PEDs to help them with skills to pay the bills. They use dat syet for getting eye-candy bodies.

Looking sexy gets you mad sex. Making 'em hos run to freaky-deaky arses, it puts ur hex. Holla!

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Radam G:

Here goes Duane Bobick, B-Camp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnLeFFAFCW0.



http://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=cXFBWPDNXJk. Holla!

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Radam G:

Jack Johnson beat a set of brothers in beating Jack and James Jeffries. Holla!

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Bernie Campbell:

Amatuer Smamatuer, Has anybody ever heard of Duane Bobick?

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Bernie Campbell:

Enuf of that useless Statue of David Perez! Talk about lack of Mobility! Does fres oquendo have anything booked! Comn USA cant you guys dig anything out of the crevises?

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amayseng:

GGG is both plus some.

The kid has ALL the tools to be special.

His path thus far is on point.

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