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The Shadow:

"Shadow you're the type of person that only sees the ink on the paper. I can't debate with someone who wishes to blindly hold onto a technicality. Be honest with your friends and yourself in discussion. Cotto is the man who beat the man. Martinez avoided GGG and Cotto will too. Now Mayweather does not want any of GGG either and these are the facts."

No, I'm the type of person who deals with the facts, not passion, which may explain why you can't "debate" with me -- not that I was trying to anyway.

Your entire premise seems to be built around speculation and opinion, which to me is pointless to debate since you're of course entitled to have whatever opinion you want.

I deal with what is. That's just my paradigm; you have yours and that's cool.

But tell me this: what technicality am I hanging on to?

The fact that GGG has never even fought in or around the man's weight class?

The fact that they're signed to exclusive deals on competing networks?

These are not "technicalities," my friend -- these are complete non-starters.

Just because you think he doesn't want any part of someone doesn't make it "factual." Does it?

That's like saying GGG is afraid of Hopkins, who's challenged him repeatedly.

Like I said, I wasn't even trying to debate with you. You injected by calling the notion laughable that Mayweather (IMO) probably beats the current middleweight champion (who he's beaten before, by the way).

Perhaps you should heed your own advice about honesty?

And for the last part, Mayweather doesn't want a part of GGG? How do you know, has he gone on the record to say this? Has he told you?

If that's your opinion, that's fine. But that's not what I was talking about.

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deepwater2:

I wonder what kind of money Jay Z will throw at Rigondeaux?





I don't think Jay Z will be sliding down a rope cursing at the boxing fans like 50 cent did, so that is a plus.

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dino da vinci:

@Randy.

Considering you can't really put a top five together worth their salt, that might be considered a safe bet.

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The Commish:

"This is what da Bobfather thinks about Jay Z and the bid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JcgxCXd-d8. Holla!"

No surprises there. Top Rank lost the promotion to Roc Nation, but wins because their fighter will still be fighting for a title and for a lot more money.

You've got to wonder how many more purse bids Roc Nation is going to go after (Stiverne-Wilder may be heading to purse bid) and in how many of those will he bury the opposition in the amount of the bid?

Also, how active will Roc Nation be in signing available talent?

50 Cent could have had (and still can) tremendous muscle in the boxing biz, as he certainly has the resources. What he needs is the kind of team Jay-Z put together.

I have the feeling that, by this time next year, Roc Nation is going to be among the top five promoters in boxing.

-Randy G.

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Radam G:

"Very cute. If I knew how to post pics and videos here (I find roadblocks as I use my I-Pad), I'd put up a Frank Sinatra song, "High Hopes."



Chris Algieri and his team believe he can deliver on those High Hopes on November 22. That's all that matters.



-Randy G."




Next time that you and The Shadow hook up for you to go bionic on him during a workout, he'll show you the tricks of the trade for I-Pad posting from YouTube.



In the meantime here goes Old Blue Eyes' "High Hopes." Da Manny is going to be like an ant, so C-Al better stay off the ropes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWZ-pLUb9L8. Holla!

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The Commish:

For those Austin Trout fans out there, a big WHEW!

For a guy who has been at the top and now aspires to get back on top again, it appears to be a long way up.

A very long way.

Trainer Louis Burke and manager Bob Spagnola have got to keep him active, even if it's with a couple of low-paying, off-TV gigs.

It's the only way Trout will be able to get the rust off...and there is plenty of rust to be gotten off.

Not being a one-shot KO hitter, Trout must do it all on quickness, timing and boxing ability. He must once again become the Austin Trout who beat Miguel Cotto in Madison Square Garden.

Anything less will not get him on top again.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

"Team C-Al and company are telling themselves "little lies" -- sweet little lies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyE4CLM0QIA. Holla!"

Very cute. If I knew how to post pics and videos here (I find roadblocks as I use my I-Pad), I'd put up a Frank Sinatra song, "High Hopes."

Chris Algieri and his team believe he can deliver on those High Hopes on November 22. That's all that matters.

-Randy G.

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Radam G:

This is what da Bobfather thinks about Jay Z and the bid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JcgxCXd-d8. Holla!

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The Commish:

"Hehehehe! I'm leaving that one alone. I don't wanna get struck by lightning. Holla!"

The only one who is going to get struck is Stiverne.

Hopefully, it will be fast and painless. The last thing he will remember is the bell ringing for round one. The next thing he'll be cognizant of is asking his handlers in his dressing room, "What happened?"

No, RG, the lightning is not headed your way. It's headed straight for that ample body and the head with the dreads which belongs to the future ex-WBC heavyweight champion, Bermane Stiverne.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Hopefully, this renewed spirit and asttitude towards his craft also includes a personality growth. In his past boxing life, Jones disdained the media. He hated to talk to them and just-as-hated when they talked to him.

Hopefully, he has grown up.

We'll see tonight. Then, when he is interviewed after the fight, we'll find out if he has really grown up.

We hope so.

-Randy G.

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Radam G:

Hehehehe! I'm leaving that one alone. I don't wanna get struck by lightning. Holla!

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The Commish:

I know I am going to throw a few down on C-Al.

I think I can even get better than +700.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

THE LORD'S PRAYER

Dear Lord
Please see to it that
Bermane Stiverne
lays back on the ropes
against Deontay Wilder
the way he did against
Cris Arreola. Cris could
not apply the Heavenly Hammer,
but your disciple, Deontay Wilder, will.
Is it too much to ask to make a tall
kid from 'Bama the heavyweight champion?
All things in your name.
Hallelujah.

-Randy G.

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Radam G:

"If "B-Ware" lays on the ropes the way he did against Cris Arreola, there is no doubt we will be hearing, "...and NEW..."



Even if he tries to keep the fight in mid-ring, we're gonna' be hearing those words.



I wish they'd give us the date, already!



Can't wait!!!



-Randy G"




Hehehehe! D-Wild is gonna get busted upside the noggin, and will become quite mild. He'll going to start crying like a lost-in-the-amusement-park child.



One of my childhood icons, his trainer Mark Breland, is going to have to rescue the tree-tall 'Bama. Because on him, B-Ware is gonna drop a vicious hamma .'



D-Wild is going to be so jived in the corner that he will start slurring bad gamma .



MB will turn Buddy McGirt like, and holla: "Dat's enough! I'm stoppin' it!" Holla.

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Radam G:

Team C-Al and company are telling themselves "little lies" -- sweet little lies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyE4CLM0QIA. Holla!

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Radam G:

"They'll be racking up a lot of frequent flyer miles.

Then, on November 22, Algieri will rack up his 21st victory.

It'll be great to see them on the New York leg of their tour.

-Randy G."


Hehehehe! I won't be on New York leg of the tour. I don't want to catch that no-hope-in-this-life fever. Holla!

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Skibbz:

"Great post Skibbz. And as of today C-AL is a +700 underdog to beat Da Manny!"

I think it's time for some money to be made if I were backing him!

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Skibbz:

Let's hope he doesn't pick up any stomach bugs... Great to see your unbending confidence Commissioner, keep it up.

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Skibbz:

Shadow you're the type of person that only sees the ink on the paper. I can't debate with someone who wishes to blindly hold onto a technicality. Be honest with your friends and yourself in discussion. Cotto is the man who beat the man. Martinez avoided GGG and Cotto will too. Now Mayweather does not want any of GGG either and these are the facts.

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The Commish:

"Wow! You got it bad, Commish! Luv for your boy.

"B-ware" aka "The Haitian "Sensation is totally uncared and unscared of D-Wild.

You were an eyewitness -- or more of an earwitness last night on the USA mainland -- going in with biases on your show. Your condition of love for your boy makes you project and inject things that are not there to support your strong opinion about how the bout will end. You apparently have a bit of editorialized hearing.

I'm riding with "Gentleman" Gerry Cooney on this one. He had a looooong boxing career and knows the scent of great shyness versus the smell of scaryness. Holla!"


If "B-Ware" lays on the ropes the way he did against Cris Arreola, there is no doubt we will be hearing, "...and NEW..."

Even if he tries to keep the fight in mid-ring, we're gonna' be hearing those words.

I wish they'd give us the date, already!

Can't wait!!!

-Randy G

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The Commish:

They'll be racking up a lot of frequent flyer miles.

Then, on November 22, Algieri will rack up his 21st victory.

It'll be great to see them on the New York leg of their tour.

-Randy G.

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Radam G:

Thanks for the warning. Holla!

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The Shadow:

"Pretty much spot on KB.



You can tell from previous interviews with Freddie, and the way he pretends to not know who 3G is (when he has owned several guys azz from/in his own gym) that he understands the risk to any welterweight and/or light middleweight.



The only way Roach considers it is at a catchweight that hurts Golovkin.



Still, despite what Sanchez says there are plenty of guys for Golovkin to fight, even some that have mentioned his name.



For instance Hopkins has. But Bernard knows when a guy tries to read his rhythm and timing and how to prevent it.



Take that away from Gennady and there goes hit power hitting style. Since I know that, I assume Abel also does.



Froch has just had a fight fall through, so he would be available.



I am not sure Ward (or should we say GTP) - now that the legalities of his career are clear (hey that rhymes) - would be that difficult in negotiations.



Furthermore, the fight may appeal to Dan for a variety of reasons; aside from the fact GTP don't currently seem to have another statesman fighter in their stable.



Andre Dirrell has been calling out 3G.



Korobov is another decent fight.



See the trend here?



If you're a seriously competent legitimate middleweight (not light middleweight or really a welterweight with a light middleweight title {as Cotto is}) or super middleweight; K2 and it's associates to appear to have behavioural patterns that are similar to someone shying away from any opponent other than those that may present Gennady with an advantage.



No hating.



I love Gennady and appreciate he is awesome.



But he (and Abel) too have the option of stepping it up and exploring the real challenges and offers.



Peace."




Preach, brother. If they really wanted some challenges they don't have to look too far. But they're playing the game and they're playing it well.

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The Shadow:

"Shadow, you sound like the house niggah. Yes, there are lawyer's documents that certainly say that "we have the right of refusal." . Really, are you so white bread? Do u think Floyd Mayweather Jr. gives sh*t about what ShoBox thinks or their documents say? Yes. Floyd wud get sued by Showtime if they objected and he said "F-you, and went ahead and boxed wherever and under whoevers PPV, and yes, Floyd wud probably lose in court in a few years, but Showtime, knowing this, will cave and make special arrangements. I don't know what world you're living in, but it aint Floyds! That niggah duz what he wants; and Showtime is the one dancing to his tune when push comes to shove with Floyd."



Get lost, please.

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The Shadow:

"Very well said. Floyd may retire with a goose egg in the lost column and probably eclipse Marciano in doing so but there'll always be that asterisk next to his name that says "Ducked Pacquio and Ducked GGG." I think GGG puts Floyd in the hospital."



Ducked GGG? How do you duck someone who's never, ever competed in your weight class and happens to be signed to an exclusive deal with a competing broadcaster?



How exactly is he ducking GGG? Please tell me that.

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The Shadow:

"Miguel Cotto raided the 160 division at the right moment, swooped in got his 4th div title and will be out as fast as he came in. No, the real champion, the true king of the middleweights is the Kazakh fighter Gennady Golovkin."



You may have that opinion of Golovkin that he's the most talented at 160 and that's fine.



But that doesn't change the fact that the middleweight champion is Miguel Cotto -- a guy Mayweather has already beaten.



So not laughable to suggest he can beat him again.



Laughable is the notion to suggest that he can't.



Cotto may leave the division; we don't know. He just captured the real, legitimate, lineal title so unless he loses that or leaves -- which he may -- that is how it will remain.

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stormcentre:

"I don't think Freddy will let Cotto anywhere near GGG, although I would love to see that fight. Cotto is definitely game bred, but too many too many tough fights at this point."

Pretty much spot on KB.

You can tell from previous interviews with Freddie, and the way he pretends to not know who 3G is (when he has owned several guys azz from/in his own gym) that he understands the risk to any welterweight and/or light middleweight.

The only way Roach considers it is at a catchweight that hurts Golovkin.

Still, despite what Sanchez says there are plenty of guys for Golovkin to fight, even some that have mentioned his name.

For instance Hopkins has. But Bernard knows when a guy tries to read his rhythm and timing and how to prevent it.

Take that away from Gennady and there goes hit power hitting style. Since I know that, I assume Abel also does.

Froch has just had a fight fall through, so he would be available.

I am not sure Ward (or should we say GTP) - now that the legalities of his career are clear (hey that rhymes) - would be that difficult in negotiations.

Furthermore, the fight may appeal to Dan for a variety of reasons; aside from the fact GTP don't currently seem to have another statesman fighter in their stable.

Andre Dirrell has been calling out 3G.

Korobov is another decent fight.

See the trend here?

If you're a seriously competent legitimate middleweight (not light middleweight or really a welterweight with a light middleweight title {as Cotto is}) or super middleweight; K2 and it's associates to appear to have behavioural patterns that are similar to someone shying away from any opponent other than those that may present Gennady with an advantage.

No hating.

I love Gennady and appreciate he is awesome.

But he (and Abel) too have the option of stepping it up and exploring the real challenges and offers.

Peace.

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brooklynrules:

I couldn't agree more. Genady would put Floyd in the hospital. When you realize GGG DID NOT BOX Stevens. He boxed when he knocked him down in the 2nd, but Sanchez reminded GGG "no free shots, stay busy" in the beginning of the 5th, but GGG was intent (in his words) " "just broking him." He gave Stevens every opportunity, often going into the phone booth and punishing Stevens so badly that Stevens was pillar to post on the ropes. GGG could have won easy straying in the same aggressive boxing style he employed in rounds 1,2 and 3, but was intent on punishing Stevens, AND DID SO. See my "Idiots Guide to Golovkin-Stevens'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5bjLN60E4A

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brooklynrules:

Shadow, you sound like the house niggah. Yes, there are lawyer's documents that certainly say that "we have the right of refusal." . Really, are you so white bread? Do u think Floyd Mayweather Jr. gives sh*t about what ShoBox thinks or their documents say? Yes. Floyd wud get sued by Showtime if they objected and he said "F-you, and went ahead and boxed wherever and under whoevers PPV, and yes, Floyd wud probably lose in court in a few years, but Showtime, knowing this, will cave and make special arrangements. I don't know what world you're living in, but it aint Floyds! That niggah duz what he wants; and Showtime is the one dancing to his tune when push comes to shove with Floyd.

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brooklynrules:

Very well said. Floyd may retire with a goose egg in the lost column and probably eclipse Marciano in doing so but there'll always be that asterisk next to his name that says "Ducked Pacquio and Ducked GGG." I think GGG puts Floyd in the hospital.

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