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oubobcat:

I will say this, credit to Fury for taking on a dangerous opponent. I am really surprised that Ustinov.

My guess would be Ustinov will be dangerous early. He is a big heavyweight and can punch some. Who knows what kind of shape he is in as well? He may just throw caution to the wind early, especially knowing Fury has been hurt several times and dropped before. This could be wildly exciting early. I wonder is there is any hope that AWE may reconsider and air this card now that Ustinov has been chosen as the opponent.

If I were a betting man (and generally I am not), I would consider laying a few bucks on Ustinov to win at 6-1 or so and if offered may lay a few bucks on him to KO Fury in rounds 1-3. This is not saying I'd pick him but it'd be a small risk for a potential nice payout.

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The Commish:

Ustinov is a Bealrus version of Primo Carnera, the lumbering heavyweight champion from the pre-Joe Louis era. He is close to 6'8" and weighs in right around 300 pounds (he has fought at over that weight). His punches are painfully slow and on his feet he moves like a sloth.

Fury will be way too quick for him in both the foot speed and hand speed departments. Unless Fury comes into the fight suffering both physical and mental breakdowns, he cannot and will not lose to Ustinov.

I'm not sure what it says about Kubrat Pulev (Wlad Klitschko's next opponent and the man who handed Ustinov his only career loss in September 2012), but it took him 11 rounds to stop "The Sloth." Until the end came in the 11th, Pulev had won all previous 10 rounds on one card, nine on another and eight on another, hitting Ustinov with solid shots along the way.

-Randy G.

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The Good Doctor:

"I was reading some Hagler history and I came across an article stating that SRL would only fight in 12 oz gloves and that is what they did.


Anyone know if this is legit?"


From what I understand, it was not that SRL would not fight without 12oz gloves, it was that it was a part of the package that he and Hagler made. Hagler got a larger share of the purse but SRL in exchange for that got a 24 X 24 ring, 12oz gloves, and 12 rounds not 15.

A little know fact is that prior to the fight even being arranged, Ray Leonard had sparred with 14oz gloves. When he watched the Hagler v. Mugabi fight, Ray Leonard thought that Hagler would have trouble with speed so he decided that if he should get 12oz gloves he could be even faster. In his opinion, Hagler was being outboxed by a slugger and looked very sluggish.

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dino da vinci:

What are his chances of winning?

50-50

Either he will or he won't.

:0

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The Commish:

I will tell Ray Mancini that. He will be in-studio with me & Cooney this Friday.

And Skibbz, I do recall how Bizzaro tried to turn his fight vs. Duran into the "Lou Bizzaro Invitational Track Meet." I don't blame him. He was no puncher, and certainly was not going to throw down with the ruthless young Duran.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Bernie is also a diehard Travis Walker fan, always asking "When is Travis Walker going to get a big fight?" Despite having lost his last five fights, maybe we can get a Fury-Walker fight made, just for Bernie!

-Randy G.

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oubobcat:

"My wife and I may be headed up there in the next couple of months. Now that I know about the place, I'll be sure to stop in.

Lou Bizzaro. He went into the fight against Duran sporting an undefeated record. In front of a hometown crowd, Bizzaro did himself proud against the vicious, 25-year-old lightweight champ before Duran's thudding shots got him out of there with seconds remaining in the 14th round.

Is Bizzaro's place a diner, bobcat? An Italian restaurant? Doesn't matter. If I'm there, I'm going!

-Randy G."


Its a quaint older little place. The best way to describe it as a small Italian diner. I was with my wife and she wanted to go stop by Presque (not the Casino but the state park a few exits from the casino). Anyway, driving down to the park you pass the restaurant. I actually went passed it and turned around insisting that we stop in for lunch. We were there on a Friday afternoon and were one of two sets of customers in the place. I was able to walk around and take in all that was on display.

What I loved about it was the walls are covered with boxing pictures, posters, etc and they were all primarily from the 70's and early 80's. It was kind of like stepping back in time and taking a tour of the sport from the 70's and early 80's. Actually when you first walk in, there is a huge 80's poster of Ray Mancini that really catches the eye. As a boxing fan, I absolutely loved it and the food was not too bad either.

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Skibbz:

"Skibbz - It is an savvy comparison - but GGG is a considerably more fluid two-handed combination puncher than Tzsu, though his tactics were similar. Tzsyu was stiffer in the upper body and didn’t mix it up as easily. Can you imagine a Ricky Hatton at any point taking apart a guy with the two-sided arsenal of a GGG? Tzsu was very good. GGG is in the running for great."

You're right Mort GGG uses a greater variety of punches. I think he looked stiff but that was mainly because he wanted to always be poised to attack. I don't think Hatton could have put up with a prime Tszyu, and I certainly can't imagine him taking apart someone of GGG's calibre. Although Hatton was a good banger he had a lot of holes in his game.. and a bottomless pit of a stomach.


@Oubobcat I don't think the hype surrounding the two fighters is the same unless you're taking the American context. In Europe, Tszyu was widely recognised as being the top amateur boxer in any division from around the age of 16/17. He destroyed Vernon Forrest in the '91 World Am Champs and went on to becoming a pro soon after. (I will post the fight at the end of this post for you to enjoy.)

Whilst he was fighting in and out of Australia, he was still fairly raw but his potential was there. I believe in his first showing in the states he was against a tough mexican/american banger who's name has slipped my mind. The mexican had good skills and was a seasoned vet who had never heard of Kostya, and it was much the same for Tszyu of him. When they got going the mexican quickly realised this wasn't a hype job and that Tszyu could fight, and that he had serious dynamite in his hands. I believe it went the distance, and turned into a real war of attrition, but after that display I believe people started to take note in America of the Thunder from Down Under.

GGG on the other hand, although having spectacular amateur credentials and a host of medals, I never heard of him being spoken about in the same way. In Europe we knew he could stop anyone if he got his leather on them but it was said in the pro's there will be slicksters and cute fighters who will dance rings around him. Not to say that opinion holds true now, just at the time in a lot of boxing circles in Europe that was the talk that surrounded a young Gennady.

Here's the video of Kostya and Forrest as promised, worth a watch it's very entertaining.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5HbhMCga5U

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Skibbz:

Come on commissioner, Bizarro was sprinting laps of the ring for 10 rounds!! Other than that I must admit he showed great courage in the later rounds when Duran caught up with him. I remember the shot that sent him sprawling, Bizarro was tough.

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The Commish:

My wife and I may be headed up there in the next couple of months. Now that I know about the place, I'll be sure to stop in.

Lou Bizzaro. He went into the fight against Duran sporting an undefeated record. In front of a hometown crowd, Bizzaro did himself proud against the vicious, 25-year-old lightweight champ before Duran's thudding shots got him out of there with seconds remaining in the 14th round.

Is Bizzaro's place a diner, bobcat? An Italian restaurant? Doesn't matter. If I'm there, I'm going!

-Randy G.

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oubobcat:

When I first saw Golovkin, I was instantly reminded of Tszyu. They hype surrounding Tszyu too in 1997 was very similar to the hype Golovkin is receiving today.

Much like Tszyu lived up to the a lot of the hype eventually, I think Golovkin can as well. But Golovkin is also far from perfect and there are holes that need to be patched up.

Similar to Vince Phillips in 1997, people are overlooking Geale in my opinion. Geale is a very skilled fighter. He is very technically sound, knows how to create angles and throw at the right distance and is solid of the defensive end. Geale also has very quick hands and quicker feet than Golovkin. Mark my words, he is going to give Golovkin a fight on Saturday.

Whenever one good fighter faces another good fighter, anything can happen. Much like Tszyu against Phillips, this is a pretty big step up in competition for Golovkin. I would go as far to say that Geale is the 2nd best Middleweight in the world at the moment behind Golovkin. Geale is a very live underdog and 6-1 odds at the moment are ridiculous in my opinion.

One other thing, Golovkin could lose here but he could end up becoming a better fighter in the end. We also saw that with Tszyu after he lost to Phillips and go on to a Hall of Fame career.

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mortcola:

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Skibbz - It is an savvy comparison - but GGG is a considerably more fluid two-handed combination puncher than Tzsu, though his tactics were similar. Tzsyu was stiffer in the upper body and didn't mix it up as easily. Can you imagine a Ricky Hatton at any point taking apart a guy with the two-sided arsenal of a GGG? Tzsu was very good. GGG is in the running for great.

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Skibbz:

"Skibbz, I can't believe you dropped the name Lou Bizzaro. A few weeks ago I was driving through Erie, PA and came across Lou Bizzaro's Ringside Restaurant. Of course, I had to stop. Not a bad place and the restaurant was all covered with boxing posters and memorabilia."



Ahh I've heard about that place, did you see the ring in which he fought Duran in there? It's supposedly 30 by 30! Maybe The Commish can get Algieri one of those next time he fights in NY.. Would love to check that place out myself, and the nosh too of course..

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Skibbz:

On the topic of illegal substances, Her Majesty's horse, Estimate, tested positive for Morphine...

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Skibbz:

I know what you mean Grimm, Duran was knocking welterweights out in the Chorillo when he was barely weighing above 112. Crazy power and ferocity.

The middleweight division is a very athletic division too but my problem is that sometimes in that division it goes a little quiet. When there are genuine middleweights around it can be very interesting but at times in it's history it's lacked several equally great champions and contenders.

I also totally agree on the Heavyweights. It's not for me, there are the odd few who make it interesting but in all it's just not the same in terms of action and consistency as the lower divisions.

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Skibbz:

Phillips wasn't special but he put Tszyu off and took away his gameplan that night. Tszyu came back more determined as Stormcentre noted.

I have also said many times how GGG reminds of me Tszyu in the way he fights, it's very pleasurable to watch. Nice write up.

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brownsugar:

Thanks for the Rodriquez saga... Its interesting how different circumstances can be so impactful in a fighters career. Darnell Boone has given several good fighters a hard time.

Chavez will get KO'd within 4 rounds if he tries to make 160 lbs against Cotto. I don't care what senior Chavez says. The kid ought to be fighting at 168 or 175.

Nice sales pitch for Algieri but I have Al vs Pac filed under the header of lowered expectations.

Finally Lara clearly did himself no favors against Canelo. He allowed the moment to slip from his grasp.

I thought Lara won handily and do not rule out external influence on the decision. but I can't prove it and neither do I care. Because I'd rather watch a fighter who has enough passion to show the audience how badly he wants to win.

Good article.

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deepwater2:

"Another great piece Commish.

I did not realize Al Gavin was not in the Hall of Fame. That certainly needs to be corrected. He was not only a great cut man but great corner man as well. Hopefully, just an oversight that will soon be rectified.

I think Top Rank is going to make Cotto-Bradley. Chavez Sr. can talk all he wants about his boy making 160 but I don't see it happening. Plus, Cotto and his team are very smart businessmen. Even if Chavez could squeeze down to 160, he'd be so much bigger than Cotto. Cotto and his team take calculated risks. A fight with Bradley and then Canelo later on would be for big money (especially Canelo) and much more winnable than entering the ring with a potentially much bigger Chavez.

As for Martinez coming back, well like most I hoped he would retire. He clearly was not anywhere near 100% for his fight with Cotto. And he wasn't 100% either for his fight the previous time out with Murray. I don't see this going well and maybe when he hits the gym will reconsider."


Al Gavin should definitely be in the HOF. My most prized boxing possession is my old amateur passbook with the name AL GAVIN on the cover. I have it framed. When promoter Sal Mushimesi opened The Bulldog Boxing Club Al was the head trainer there. Al was the most serious boxing trainer I ever had. He knew boxing.

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deepwater2:

Great column this week Commish.



It's nice to see Big George Mitchell mentioned. He was in my corner many times as an amateur. He brought me to spar John Duddy also. For such a big man he sure is a nice gentle guy.



If Pac can disregard CA's jab it will be an easy nights work. If he gets complacent and stays on the outside too long PAC can be in for a long night. The commish picked the upset of the year with the CA vs Ruslan P fight, can he do it again? I'm picking PAC but strange things can happen.

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oubobcat:

Another great piece Commish.

I did not realize Al Gavin was not in the Hall of Fame. That certainly needs to be corrected. He was not only a great cut man but great corner man as well. Hopefully, just an oversight that will soon be rectified.

I think Top Rank is going to make Cotto-Bradley. Chavez Sr. can talk all he wants about his boy making 160 but I don't see it happening. Plus, Cotto and his team are very smart businessmen. Even if Chavez could squeeze down to 160, he'd be so much bigger than Cotto. Cotto and his team take calculated risks. A fight with Bradley and then Canelo later on would be for big money (especially Canelo) and much more winnable than entering the ring with a potentially much bigger Chavez.

As for Martinez coming back, well like most I hoped he would retire. He clearly was not anywhere near 100% for his fight with Cotto. And he wasn't 100% either for his fight the previous time out with Murray. I don't see this going well and maybe when he hits the gym will reconsider.

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oubobcat:

"Algieri makes Lou bizarro look like a stand and trade slugger he runs so much. Even Lara would get fits after watching the Provo fight. To re use an old quote, Algieri with his not so cute pitter patter style was like a "fly buzzing around a lions mouth". He's a little top sugary for my liking outside the ring and and he puts on his marathon shoes inside. Why is he on a PPV?"

Skibbz, I can't believe you dropped the name Lou Bizzaro. A few weeks ago I was driving through Erie, PA and came across Lou Bizzaro's Ringside Restaurant. Of course, I had to stop. Not a bad place and the restaurant was all covered with boxing posters and memorabilia.

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oubobcat:

This is getting absurd. Salka is a Lightweight who fought his last fight at 132 1/2. It makes the choice of him as an opponent all the more head scratching.

Look, I understand that fighters need to think about the length of their careers and cannot always fight in tough fights. And Garcia has a very good resume and fought his share of tough opponents on paper. But really, a blown up small Lightweight who is ranked by one place at 77 at a catch weight now of 142. There were plenty of other Jr. Welterweights here who could have got the call. Heck, how about Mayweather's guy Theophane who Garcia beat by split decision some years ago? Why not face him again and try to correct that split decision from the first time around? Its much more compelling that Salka.

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stormcentre:

Yes, good write up and analogy.

RJJ's commentary was - as always - insightful and accurate. He knew Vince loved to throw down and had a unique and sometimes humorous way of letting the audience know.

Phillips was both tremendously tough, and also quite clever in his approach to that fight.

Tszyu, like Vince, fell in love with punching.

And as Kostya's career trajectory reached great heights that love of punching came with a downside that manifested itself with a neglect for the inside game and defence; that themselves would not ignore or remain unnoticed by father time or injuries.

Vince had tremendous punch resistance - perhaps as good as it gets - and that combined with both the above factors and also a game-plan to throw down hard with both lead power shots and KO counters - ensured that Tszyu paid the price for both his love of a shoot out (particularly with someone determined) and also how Kostya's hands almost always dropped after power delivery and upon retraction; leaving himself open for counters - if you could handle the incoming fire.

And Vince did.

In that fight Kostya's ability to easily be drawn into a gun fight, and ignore his superior boxing skills, worked against him.

Luckily, like all great champions that face a loss, he dealt with it, moved on, and still became the unified light welterweight champion.

Not so for Vince, although they don't come much tougher.

If Geale's defence holds up he can beat 3G. But with the form, stamina and firepower 3G has had it is hard to bet against him in hope that his opponent's defence will be watertight.

There are a few holes in 3G game though - but for now he and his pressure and power have ensured that no-one can both find and seriously exploit them.

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thegreyman:

Been waiting for this fight for a while now. One guy who loves to dish it out, and another who adores taking it...

Heads down and start swinging lads!

My money's on Provo though, in a battle like this it comes down to power, chin and grit, and Provo has a serious edge in all three.

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thegreyman:

The fight's a joke.

Absolutely nothing to gain from stepping in that ring.

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thegreyman:

As Kellerman said- 'there's a monster in the middleweight division'. 3 days and the monster is unleashed again. The patient killer, the silent stalker.

A middle round KO and GGG will hopefully get a big name or two before the year is out.

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thegreyman:

"Given the chance, alot of guys can beat his ***, outside of USA!"

A lot of guys can beat him outside the US?

You're aware that, until very recently, he was based in Germany, taking on all comers?

You're aware that he's faced literally over 350 amateurs, and beaten all but 5?

That's quite a lot of guys that have tried to beat him outside the US, and failed...

What is it that makes him so flawed in your opinion?

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thegreyman:

I can see Algieri cocooning on the ropes after a couple of rounds, receiving hammering combinations from the little man. He'll be beaten to the punch early on, and you can't hope to simply outwork someone when that's happening to you.

Manny has had experience of countless types of opponents- Algieri's height or reach will prove no problem to him, and his long distance running tactics will be of little use to someone who can control the ring, his opponent, and distance, as well as The Congressman can.

Algieri's in for a real tough night- there will be no battling through this one. Everything Provodnikov didn't do- Manny will execute perfectly. Close down the distance, throw accurate combinations, be first and be fast, cut off the ring. It should be a walk in the park for Manny.

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Skibbz:

"I hear ya' Steve. I can certainly understand how many fans thought Provodnikov won vs. Algieri. But I can also understand why so many went with Algieri. That is truly the nature of scoring a fight.



I can also understand how most of you feel Algieri was take more than his share of lumps against Pacquiao, with no apparent firepower to keep Pac-Man off of him.



We'll have to wait until November 22 to find out.



-Randy G."




Algieri makes Lou bizarro look like a stand and trade slugger he runs so much. Even Lara would get fits after watching the Provo fight. To re use an old quote, Algieri with his not so cute pitter patter style was like a "fly buzzing around a lions mouth". He's a little top sugary for my liking outside the ring and and he puts on his marathon shoes inside. Why is he on a PPV?

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The Commish:

"Randy, I have been following you since the days of Ring Magazine. I still have old VHS tapes of fights that you called. I even tried to sell a boxing short story to you when you were the Ring editor. I respect your knowledge and your opinions. But . . . there's no way in heck that Chris Algieri came close to beating Provodnikov, and if he even gets one judge's vote over Pacquiao, I'll . . . well, I'll say I was wrong. Buster Douglas had evident power in his fists when going in against Tyson. Algieri punches half as hard as Little Prince George on his first birthday. Yes, Escalera "beating" Everett was all manner of ridiculous -- I have that one recorded, too; remember how "Flash" Gordon went nuclear over it? --, but to my eye, Algieri's "victory" wasn't much better. The Local Kid lucked up, and now he gets his million bucks for taking yet another thumping, one that his New York judge buddies won't be able to manipulate. Or, at least that's the way it looks from this corner. Steve V."

I hear ya' Steve. I can certainly understand how many fans thought Provodnikov won vs. Algieri. But I can also understand why so many went with Algieri. That is truly the nature of scoring a fight.

I can also understand how most of you feel Algieri was take more than his share of lumps against Pacquiao, with no apparent firepower to keep Pac-Man off of him.

We'll have to wait until November 22 to find out.

-Randy G.

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