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King Beef:

"Women's boxing is not my bag, but this lady from the Netherlands could really fight. I doubt we'll see another as good as her anytime soon.

She supposedly was unbeaten as a kick boxer in 40-plus fights. She turned pro at age twenty-eight and left boxing with a 17-0 record. She hasn't fought since 2004 and today would be 46 years old.

Her last scheduled fight was with Christy Martin. Bob Arum was the promoter and he put up a purse of one million, $750,000 to the winner. The fight fell out when Rijker ruptured an Achilles tendon in training. Advance ticket sales were sluggish, so Arum let the fight die.

Christy Martin may have been the third most-talented female fighter on the planet (behind Rijker and Laila Ali), but Rijker would have blown right through her. She was in a league of her own.

The last I heard of Rikjer, she was living in Van Nuys. I wonder how she's doing now, nine years after that nice payday evaporated."




I think I read somewhere she still trains, and also corners for another female fighter and yes she was a beast.

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King Beef:

"Another con job victory for Bernard. Why these guys play his game of pose, wait and stroll around I will never know. Make the old timer fight instead of pose and Hop gets beat. Shumenov stood there like a cobra watching the snake charmer. Throw punches! I give credit to Hopkins for controling the pace and the tempo (yawn) in winning yet another thrilling (yawn again) pose down."



I don't know about a con job but I gotta agree with you on making BHop fight 3 minutes of every rd, it amazes me how these guys fall right into that trap. Granted Hopkins and corner have probably forgotten more about boxing than Shumenov knows, (needs a trainer BAD!) pushing the pace against a 50 yr old man seems like a no brainer; I fault Shumenov for that.

Props to BHop, and a pretty good night at the fights again.

I did not see Porter steamrolling Paulie like that!!!

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Domenic:

Speaking of Rubin Carter, he died today. Yes indeed, the film 'The Hurricane' was pure fiction.

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Grimm:

"Appreciate the responses. That was classy of Giardello.



Regarding Cerdan, I wasn't aware that he injured his shoulder in Round 1. Is that documented of was it invented to enhance his legend?



Over the years there have been a bunch of boxers who were romantically involved with famous ladies, but never an affair that captivated a nation like Cerdan-Piaf.



I happen to be a big Edith Piaf fan. That came from the brief time that I lived in New Orleans where my favorite watering hole had Piaf on the jukebox.



Cerdan's son of the same name made some headway in boxing. For the fun of it, run the records of the two Cerdans side-by-side with the records of Chavez Sr. and Chavez Jr. The similarities are striking. If we were jingoistic Frenchmen, we would say that Chavez father and son were the Cerdans of Mexico."




A couple of years ago I ran a blog on boxing, and did a piece on the, in my opinion, 20 best ever in lightweight, welterweight, middleweight and heavyweight divisions. Cerdan made my no 10, and in researching for the 'article', I ran across the information on his injure in several places - but can't really say if it was/is verified or not.



Piaf was something else. "La Vie En Rose" and "Non Je Ne Regrette Rien" stands out, and the latter - "I regret nothing" - could sum up the way she lived. No compromises, true genius.

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Shoulder Roll Defense:

"What if -- what IF -- Lomachenko loses?



Will they change his record to 7-2? Or will he be 1-2? And if he's now 1-2, where does he go from there? Is it back of the lie, start over and fight 10 stiffs to get back in line and propo up his record a bit?



I think that's something worth considering. What do you guys think?"




Lomachenko will lose more than likely and when he does, he should be pushed to the back of the line. Despite the amateur success, Lomachenko is no Rigondeaux skill wise. He also doesn't have any athletic attributes such as power or speed that are breath taking. Gary Russell Jr. will win this fight unanimously and many of the posters on this site will make excuses as to why Lomachenko lost. I have seen enough and Lomachenko is more hype than reality.

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amayseng:

Same ol' same ol'


except this was worse.


As a grown man myself I don't need to hear or see another man in his bedroom, kneeling on his bed talking

about " if these walls could talk" and how he is awesome at banging girls....Really All Access? Really Floyd?

as if Floyd is the only man to bang girls... wow. no charisma at all. none.

Wow Floyd, you have 4 kids from a bunch of different women. That is not a good thing you dummy.

That is the most tired and boring BS there is for reality tv.

I won't be wasting 30 minutes on the next one.


Also there is nothing intriguing about Floyd buying and selling cars in a week. That is stupid, the loss he takes for each is dumb. I don't care how much money you have.

Am I suppose to be impressed he makes poor decisions?

Floyd is a great fighter but for being a multimillionaire his personality is boring as ****.

How many times are they gonna show he shuts a store down to buy baseball flat hats a teenager would wear not a 37 year old?

This fight wont do 800,000 buys. No one is interested in the sparring session to come.

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ArneK.:

Back around 1990, I attended several tough-man shows. The contests were three one-minute rounds.

In these bouts, you would see some nightclub bouncer who appeared to be in good shape huffing-and-puffing after only one round. That gave me a greater appreciation of boxing as an endurance sport. And ultimately it gave me a greater appreciation of the amazing Bernard Hopkins.

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Domenic:

"Fun topic, Arne.

My favourite is a photo of myself in a couch next to Ali and Lewis in London ca 2001. Don't think it counts as memorabilia, though, for anyone else.

I visited a theatre/musical - local, a small show - on the life of Edith Piaf. Not only blessed with a spectacular, characteristic voice, she also led a dramatic life - and had a passionate affair with Marcel Cerdan. After the show, I got my hands on a signed photograph of Cerdan. Cerdan being Cerdan - a true great, one of the ten best middleweights ever - this is an item I truly appreciate. Now, every time I hear Piaf, I think of Cerdan. Well, he's worth it. Besides two losses by DQ, it wasn't until his 105th fight before he saw an opponents hand raised. WWII came in the way, but afterwards, he continued as if nothing had happened, became European Champion and then bested "Man of Steel" Zale via TKO. He dislocated his shoulder in round one vs LaMotta and had to quit on his stool after some ten rounds - and died in a plane crash flying back to USA for the return. Boxing lost of one its greatest sons, a career that could've been an even greater legend, and Piaf was definitely sent into a lifelong state of depression. Sad, touching, dramatic - and a real nice photo."


Very cool and interesting and yes sir, that's memorabilia. Nice summary dude.

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ArneK.:

Appreciate the responses. That was classy of Giardello.

Regarding Cerdan, I wasn't aware that he injured his shoulder in Round 1. Is that documented of was it invented to enhance his legend?

Over the years there have been a bunch of boxers who were romantically involved with famous ladies, but never an affair that captivated a nation like Cerdan-Piaf.

I happen to be a big Edith Piaf fan. That came from the brief time that I lived in New Orleans where my favorite watering hole had Piaf on the jukebox.

Cerdan's son of the same name made some headway in boxing. For the fun of it, run the records of the two Cerdans side-by-side with the records of Chavez Sr. and Chavez Jr. The similarities are striking. If we were jingoistic Frenchmen, we would say that Chavez father and son were the Cerdans of Mexico.

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Domenic:

Paulie got absolutely thrashed. Very early on, his facial expression showed that he couldn't handle Porter's power. It almost reminded me of Gatti's last fight against Gomez (and Gomez is no Shawn Porter, of course). As for Porter, he looked sensational. Not sure how much can be attributed to last night's version of Paulie being made to order, but I'm tuning in for Porter every time he gloves up. The story here is Shawn Porter. This guy's a wrecking ball.

Good win for Hopkins. I had him winning 118-109 (gave Shumenov the first 2 rounds due to Hopkins simply not throwing anything, then all the rest with a 10-8). Stylistically, the guy was perfect for Hopkins, as Al Bernstein kept pointing out, as he was content to fight the fight as if the burner was on low (or warm). Shumenov needed more Shawn Porter in him.

Good night of boxing on Showtime (love how they re-run it repeatedly on their other channels as I'm watching it again now).

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amayseng:

Hopkins still has the footwork, upper body movement, buzzing power and hand speed to still compete at the highest level. Very impressive.

Of course Hop is gonna control the pace, spacing and work rate but he landed enough clean and hard shots to keep me entertained.

I think this performance was superior, more enjoyable and entertaining to Floyds last 3 performances.

honestly.

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SouthPawFlo:

Poor Paulie, he needs to hang it up after that massacre lastnight, Porter SteamRolles him Easily...



As far as B-Hop he is the master at his feint and well timed counters, I remember when B-Hop fought RJJR 20 years ago and to see him still putting on boxing clinics now is amazing... He doesn't get hit cleanly, he moves around the ring gracefully, he knows how and when to clinch, he keeps guys off balance because sometimes he waits to counter, then sometimes it's the lead right hand, then other times it's the lead left hook.



That quick 1-2 he dropped the kid with was perfect, blind him with the jab then shoot the right hand....





I hope guys appreciate how masterful this ageless wonder is, he enters every fight without having any physical advantages yet his boxing IQ is so high now of his physical liabilities seem to matter

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oubobcat:

Malignaggi relied on his legs throughout his career but when you get older the speed is just not the same. But its hard to change your style as a fighter. Malignaggi was so fast he used to get away with one of the cardinal sins in boxing and that was pulling straight back with his hands down. The speed was not there tonight and Porter was smart in that when Malignaggi pulled straight back he followed throwing the left hook. Excellent job by Porter seeing this and that combined with his size and strength advantage allowed him to take care of Malignaggi like nobody else has done before.

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oubobcat:

Shumenov played right into Hopkins hands. He consistently held his left low and was just getting racked by right hands from Hopkins all night. Maybe if he had a trainer at some point this would have been corrected. But its clear Hopkins saw this on tape and exposed this flaw early. In addition, Shumenov allowed Hopkins to fight as his measured pace for most of the night.

I am continually amazed at what a 49 year old fighter can do in the ring. I was as pumped for the fight yesterday as any fight so far in 2014. When Hopkins fights now he makes history and did so once again last night.

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oubobcat:

For me, its a signed boxing glove from Wladimir Klitschko that I won in a contest and a personalized signed black and white photo from Joey Giardello. After the move the Hurricane came out, I watched the Carter-Giardello fight and scored it in favor of Giardello. I wrote Giardello to let him know I thought he won the fight and the bout was clearly falsely portrayed in the movie (not asking for anything). A few weeks later a signed photo came in the mail from him and that is something I will always treasure in my collection.

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jzzy:

Hopefully, this is the last time we see Paulie inside the ropes. BHop is heading for disaster once one of these young guys actually make him

work for 3 minutes each round. Kid Chocolate has defensive liabilities that will be exploited by GGG.

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Radam G:

Not impressed with all access. Holla!

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Grimm:

Fun topic, Arne.

My favourite is a photo of myself in a couch next to Ali and Lewis in London ca 2001. Don't think it counts as memorabilia, though, for anyone else.

I visited a theatre/musical - local, a small show - on the life of Edith Piaf. Not only blessed with a spectacular, characteristic voice, she also led a dramatic life - and had a passionate affair with Marcel Cerdan. After the show, I got my hands on a signed photograph of Cerdan. Cerdan being Cerdan - a true great, one of the ten best middleweights ever - this is an item I truly appreciate. Now, every time I hear Piaf, I think of Cerdan. Well, he's worth it. Besides two losses by DQ, it wasn't until his 105th fight before he saw an opponents hand raised. WWII came in the way, but afterwards, he continued as if nothing had happened, became European Champion and then bested "Man of Steel" Zale via TKO. He dislocated his shoulder in round one vs LaMotta and had to quit on his stool after some ten rounds - and died in a plane crash flying back to USA for the return. Boxing lost of one its greatest sons, a career that could've been an even greater legend, and Piaf was definitely sent into a lifelong state of depression. Sad, touching, dramatic - and a real nice photo.

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deepwater2:

I thought Shumenov would out work Hopkins .oh well, Hopkins still has it.

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Skibbz:

I was under the influence of some snow queen, and bit hard onto a rumour about Shumenov. Damn Kazakhs.

Great job by Hopkins, I can't wait to see much further he can go, no doubt he will keep proving wrong his doubters. Porter showed Malignaggi the door, was always going to happen. Looking forward to him vs Brook, that'll be a real good fight. Winner will stamp their claim to the division. Porter Thurman is a bad one for Thurman stylistically. He doesn't like backpeddling and Porter doesn't know how to go backwards. Great fight to watch.

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riverside:

wow! was i off? is hopkins gonna ever get old? we've been asking this for 30 years lol. amazing! what happen to Paulie?

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the Roast:

Another con job victory for Bernard. Why these guys play his game of pose, wait and stroll around I will never know. Make the old timer fight instead of pose and Hop gets beat. Shumenov stood there like a cobra watching the snake charmer. Throw punches! I give credit to Hopkins for controling the pace and the tempo (yawn) in winning yet another thrilling (yawn again) pose down.

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the Roast:

Laila Ali wanted no part of that.

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the Roast:

Zzzzzzzz.

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the Roast:

"Oh, between March Madness and the start of spring football I was spending my internet time on the Michigan sites. Yeah, it was Maria's birthday today. She looked nice in her German style dress today."

I saw that too. I'd like to give her the schnitzel. Welcome back bud.

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ultimoshogun:

Oh, between March Madness and the start of spring football I was spending my internet time on the Michigan sites. Yeah, it was Maria's birthday today. She looked nice in her German style dress today.

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the Roast:

Where you been Ultimo? I've been worried sick! Nice of you to make it back in time for Maria's birthday.

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ultimoshogun:

That was pretty much how I expected the fight to play out. Except for the judge who gave Shumenov seven rounds...unbelievable.

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dino da vinci:

Lucia Rijker was the most dangerous female boxer I've seen in my lifetime. Lucia's only career loss came against a man who broke her leg in the early part of the bout. She thanked him for fighting her stating something along the lines of: he had a lot of down side, so I appreciate him taking that risk.

Martin stood no chance against her in my opinion.

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kidcanvas:

hopkins gets better with age ffs ... played all night with shumenov

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