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Froggy:

"Well Coach Lane says Chris is gonna knock out Manny and retire him because the universe is on CA's side.

8 ko's , and he is gonna knock out Pac? That is BOLD.

And on the other hand I keep hearing master boxer-master boxer from the camp.

A master boxer is in the 41 and older division in amatuer boxing. 3- 90 second rounds.

Any way I hope a fight breaks out and we are all entertained."


I think everybody except Team Algerie would like to see a fight break out !

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deepwater2:

"Yes I see your point.





One thing for sure, Chris pushes through his point of impact he does not snap through it. No power."




Well Coach Lane says Chris is gonna knock out Manny and retire him because the universe is on CA's side.



8 ko's , and he is gonna knock out Pac? That is BOLD.



And on the other hand I keep hearing master boxer-master boxer from the camp.



A master boxer is in the 41 and older division in amatuer boxing. 3- 90 second rounds.



Any way I hope a fight breaks out and we are all entertained.

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mortcola:

"Mortcola





I honestly don't view Wlad as some sort of defensive genius. His scariness is what works for him and it wins fights but it ain't nothing overly impressive IMO. Maybe I'm being unfair but a man that size should be walking thru his opponents at a more confident pace. Every time he gets hit solid he's shook up and terrified looking. Its the current landscape of the heavyweight scene that makes him so successful. He's also in a very, very comfortable setting every time he fights (home field, promotional advantage). That certainly matters for the scary. And! He needs to quit shoving his opponents. His shove has become his bread and butter follow up. His signature punch...if you will."




Some legit points. I don't like his bad habits. But certain things work for him. I don't think his home field advantage affects his opponents accuracy. He is very much like a heavyweight Hearns, though without the love of warfare. and, he just hasn't been shaken up by getting hit in a long time. He has always been effective after being nailed since the Steward reformation.

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mortcola:

""WK's head movement, foot movement, ability to throw off his opponent's movement, are nearly unparalleled among any heavy of any era."







Um, Ali, Tyson, Joe Frazier to name a few."




1. "Nearly"

2. Ali got hit more by Chuck Wepner than WK has gotten hit in the last decade. Ali had a great chin, and his mastery of making 'em miss was briefly during the 60's.

3. They are all great

4. His subtle defense has, statistically and visibly, made him a master of staying in range (when not clinching), avoiding shots (incredibly low much stats landed on him), while keeping the other guy in his power sweet spot



Whatever legit criticisms there are, I stand by my assessment and can back it up easily with both numbers and examples. And kudos to the other greats who I grew up on and learned from.

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Froggy:

"Sir Frank you are right, he must shock and amaze the boxing world to enhance his waning popularity and bag the Mayweather fight. A so so win would certainly not generate the attention and PPV numbers needed to force the two networks to sponsor the supposed to be big fight."



I agree with you but also the better Pacquiao looks the less interested Mayweather will be !

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The Commish:

The only reason 99% of the boxing world is going to be shocked and amazed is because Chris Algieri is coming home from Macau as a 21-0 fighter.

-Randy G.

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Radam G:

"Bob Arum wants Vargas next. Arum took Vargas from Mayweather. Vargas is less known than Algeiri for F__s sake, but that doesn't stop fans from repeating that Vargas is next. Vargas was lucky to get wins over Mauricio Hererra and Josesito Lopez if memory serves. Floyd once said (paraphrasing) if Pacquaio can beat Jessie Vargas we can talk."

Jessie Vargas is no long with May weather. Vargas is now trained by Roy Jones Jr. Holla!

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The Shadow:

"Paulie also has no doubt, according to him, that "Showtime" Shawn Porter was cheating too when he knocked Paulie da double fudge out "because (Porter) had been a Pacquiao sparring partner, and thinks that Pacquiao is an all-time great."



To be fair to Paulie, he's a consistent a$$hole until you grease his palms. In that respect, he's typically good for how da game rolls -- seedy, shady, sneaky and sleasy. At least about 75 percent of it. Holla!"




Well, about Shawn Porter...

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Gabrielito:

Woods your heart is in the right place as are most liberal people's hearts. I get it , you care more than most because you're more fortunate than most. Or so you appear to think. And by golly if only the government would force people to donate more of their wealth to these poor people the world would be in perfect balance. Love TSS and your writing, but this strategy, like Chris Byrd's vs. Wladimir Klitschko in 2006, is foolish.

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Gabrielito:

Bob Arum wants Vargas next. Arum took Vargas from Mayweather. Vargas is less known than Algeiri for F__s sake, but that doesn't stop fans from repeating that Vargas is next. Vargas was lucky to get wins over Mauricio Hererra and Josesito Lopez if memory serves. Floyd once said (paraphrasing) if Pacquaio can beat Jessie Vargas we can talk.

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Radam G:

"The K bros, would have been in the mix, but I can't agree with them dominating. I personally would favor Vitali's chances over Wlad's due to VK's toughness. The skill level of the 70'-90's HWs is superior to what they are facing now; and that jab and clinch would not be as effective. They would definitely be in the mix though due to size alone."

Wow! All the HUGH sizes of the 70-90 got their arses tore up. The K-bros/docs would have been at the front of the line. Holla!

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elijahmendiola:

Sir Frank you are right, he must shock and amaze the boxing world to enhance his waning popularity and bag the Mayweather fight. A so so win would certainly not generate the attention and PPV numbers needed to force the two networks to sponsor the supposed to be big fight.

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amayseng:

"I think that you hit it. Those lots of people aren't susceptible to put ons.

C-Al will be gone -- knocked da double fudge out -- before high noon on Sunday in Macau. Holla!"


I just dont get why fight CA and then possibly Vargas next.

This is the near finale to Pac's stellar career, why waste two fights on these guys?

What a waste.

Pac should move up and fight Cotto at 160 for the legit mw title.

For one he can come in at 145 and still beat Cotto, and secondly he will make Floyd look terrible for not taking the risk.

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King Beef:

Pac by UD or doc stoppage. Algieri just doesn't have enough pop to get Pac's respect, and keep him off.

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King Beef:

The K bros, would have been in the mix, but I can't agree with them dominating. I personally would favor Vitali's chances over Wlad's due to VK's toughness. The skill level of the 70'-90's HWs is superior to what they are facing now; and that jab and clinch would not be as effective. They would definitely be in the mix though due to size alone.

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amayseng:

"Like I've told you guys, optical illusions are everywhere up in da game. Confirm, verify, verify again and verify what you have verified again and again.

A-Seng, you said that "an arrogant person" does not live in his "parents' basement."

'What if that 1,100-square-foot basement of a three-story mansion has been turned into a bachelor's pad with a kitchen, bedroom, sitting room/study room, dining room, a bathroom with a shower and a jacuzzi.

Great video-editing by HBO to hide the reality of the actuality. http:www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQftwJySVUM But you still notice how big the Algieri's family compound is.

Man, please! Doc M-cola ought to holla at those inkblot tests to see how schizophrenia C-Al might be, if C-Al had n ot learned to jive.

OMFG! Dude is a jive turkey. He ought eat him some water buffalo jerky. It has a different type of salt in it that will help chemical imbalances.

I would not trust C-Al as far as I can see him. He, Tim Lane and Keith Trimble are oddballs believing in their destiny and energy-stones-rocks-oils-and-lotion double fudge jive.

They would lie to Jesus Christ. And I bet that they can beat a polygraph. Holla!"


Yes I see your point.


One thing for sure, Chris pushes through his point of impact he does not snap through it. No power.

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Radam G:

"All fighters have something to say before a fight. I don't read a whole into it because its mainly to.hype the fight and/or send a message of confidence to their opponent. Trash talk shouldn't be considered as the Gospel.

Is Algieri a PPV fighter? Obviously his is now courtesy Manny Paquioa....

I give him slightly more of a chance to win than Brandon Rios.... But after he loses ......due to the media overload and speculation, Algieri's name and inspiring storyline will be imprinted in our minds for at least a decade.

How Algieri capitolizes on virtually becoming a household name overnight is for him to contemplate."


Hehehe! You are too NICE! C-Al is a new millennium Peter McNeeley. C-Al is going to be long forgotten "in our minds" forever unless something freaky freaky happens like him getting knocked through the ropes and falling on a ring girl or something. Haha! Holla!

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brownsugar:

"Showtime, Espinoza, Mayweather, Haymon, Schaefer vs HBO, Ken Hershman, Golden Boy Promotions, Oscar de La Hoya, Bernard Hopkins, Canelo, Top Rank, Team Cotto. All these folks are going to battle royal for the Cinco de mayo fight date. The Money Team ain't going to budge and neither is the other side. Hostile take over by the latinos to recapture that weekend. There's going to be 2 ppvs going on simultaneously. It's the promotional battle storm of the century. How'd do y'all see this playing out?"



The simple fact of the matter is ......without Oscar or Schaeffer in his corner or Paq on the opposite side of the ring, ...Mayweather's event is going to fail miserably. He would need to have at least 3 hispanic Marquee fights on the undercard like Cruz vs Mares and an a top caliper opponent like Thurman to even have a chance to compete.



Floyd should have signed Cotto for a rematch immediately after he blitzed Martinez. The fight could have been made.... Freddy Roach was selling the wolf tickets.

I personally don't see what Floyd can do to stop the financial bleeding.



Even if Cotto/Canelo happens a month before the Mayweather fight or a month afterwards. Floyd's event will suffer for it.



Floyd should either pull out or get extremely busy.

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Radam G:

"Well, to be fair, Paulie is convinced Manny Pacquiao cheated in that fight so he doesn't consider that a "win." It's not like he contradicted himself; in his mind, he truly has no doubt Pacquiao was cheating."

Paulie also has no doubt, according to him, that "Showtime" Shawn Porter was cheating too when he knocked Paulie da double fudge out "because (Porter) had been a Pacquiao sparring partner, and thinks that Pacquiao is an all-time great."

To be fair to Paulie, he's a consistent a$$hole until you grease his palms. In that respect, he's typically good for how da game rolls -- seedy, shady, sneaky and sleasy. At least about 75 percent of it. Holla!

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brownsugar:

All fighters have something to say before a fight. I don't read a whole into it because its mainly to.hype the fight and/or send a message of confidence to their opponent. Trash talk shouldn't be considered as the Gospel.

Is Algieri a PPV fighter? Obviously his is now courtesy Manny Paquioa.

But barely squeaking by Ruslan Provodnikov in a fight that could have gone the other way didn't exactly make Chris a fighter that I particularly wanted to see again.....even for free.

But that's just me....

I can appreciate the local support for Algieri in addition to the allure that an over-acheiving novice can have on the imaginations of boxing fans.

I give him slightly more of a chance to win than Brandon Rios.... But after he loses ......due to the media overload and speculation, Algieri's name and inspiring storyline will be imprinted in our minds for at least a decade.

How Algieri capitolizes on virtually becoming a household name overnight is for him to contemplate.

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Radam G:

"I think that if Pacquiao wins by a KO there are lots of people who will neither be shocked or amazed !"

I think that you hit it. Those lots of people aren't susceptible to put ons.

C-Al will be gone -- knocked da double fudge out -- before high noon on Sunday in Macau. Holla!

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Radam G:

"Holy cow RG, I thought you first said 5 then 4, now 2, you must have learned something since arriving in Macau ?"

YES! I've seem that the Pac-spies in the Empire State and Sin City were generous about how uncordinated, stiffest moving C-Al is.

He moves and boxes and even walks robotic. In the boxing game, we say, "He moves like he has a two-by-four up in his @$$."

The Long Island C-Al is long in size, but in fluidity and loosy-goosy, he's looking kind of spastic -- no hate or insult. Holla!

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Radam G:

"I think Chris is just trying to carry the promotion. An arrogant person does not live in their parents basement, they just wouldn't do it.



I think he is just trying to overcompensate his nerves with confidence and it comes off wrong for the most part.



Who is gonna wanna throw down 70 bucks when one fighter looks already beaten months before the fight?"




Like I've told you guys, optical illusions are everywhere up in da game. Confirm, verify, verify again and verify what you have verified again and again.



A-Seng, you said that "an arrogant person" does not live in his "parents' basement."



'What if that 1,100-square-foot basement of a three-story mansion has been turned into a bachelor's pad with a kitchen, bedroom, sitting room/study room, dining room, a bathroom with a shower and a jacuzzi.



Great video-editing by HBO to hide the reality of the actuality. http:www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQftwJySVUM But you still notice how big the Algieri's family compound is.



Man, please! Doc M-cola ought to holla at those inkblot tests to see how schizophrenia C-Al might be, if C-Al had n ot learned to jive.



OMFG! Dude is a jive turkey. He ought eat him some water buffalo jerky. It has a different type of salt in it that will help chemical imbalances.



I would not trust C-Al as far as I can see him. He, Tim Lane and Keith Trimble are oddballs believing in their destiny and energy-stones-rocks-oils-and-lotion double fudge jive.



They would lie to Jesus Christ. And I bet that they can beat a polygraph. Holla!

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Froggy:

I think that if Pacquiao wins by a KO there are lots of people who will neither be shocked or amazed !

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dino da vinci:

@Teddy Atlas, and the world. Yes, Teddy, while crazily insane at times certainly one day will find himself in the H of F. And yes, if using his celebrity helps others, that's a real nice thing as well. Which brings me to...

@Michael Woods. Ya know Mike, yes, I am 1000% Republican. But you talk about things as if they're an inch to an inch and a quarter apart when in reality there's about a ten million mile differential. That said, still love ya.

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Froggy:

"C-Al is getting blasted out in two rounds. Holla!"

Holy cow RG, I thought you first said 5 then 4, now 2, you must have learned something since arriving in Macau ?

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Radam G:

"Mortcola's the EF Hutton of this place. The man talks, you listen.

I think Algieri will acquit himself well Saturday. I don't think he'll win, but I don't think he's just gonna get bombed out either. Equivocating big time here. Pac by UD. Algieri's certainly not a PPV guy now; but he'll have a huge stage Saturday to change that, so we'll know the answer to that in 2 days."


C-Al is getting blasted out in two rounds. Holla!

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deepwater2:

Bellew might win this one.It was close last time.



I can't find that channel on my optimum package. I hope it goes on youtube or something asap.

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The Shadow:

Paulie Malignaggis is good for boxing.

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The Shadow:

"Malignaggi has a lot to say about Pacquiao...I think he's pretty lucky he never had to fight him.



He was a fan...a BIG fan:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZiBa0L123k



...saying here if Manny beat Cotto he'd be the greatest fighter EVER; Pac duly brutalises and stops Miguel and now Paulie is a fully paid-up "hater"...sutin' ain't right there!



I can't take his opinions too seriously."




Well, to be fair, Paulie is convinced Manny Pacquiao cheated in that fight so he doesn't consider that a "win." It's not like he contradicted himself; in his mind, he truly has no doubt Pacquiao was cheating.

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