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deepwater2:

Never thought I would hear people ridiculing PAC for believing in a black Jesus .



Any one ridiculing Orlando Cruz for believing in a black hole?



Let people believe what they want. Live and let live.



If people don't believe in intelligent design or a creator then what do they believe in? It's just an accident or we evolved from a fish ? I think that is harder to believe then intelligent design. What came first ? The eyeball or the eyeball socket.?

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The Commish:

Both guys looked so bad in their last outing that I don't know which way to go here.

Perhaps, who wants it less?

I know. I'll flip a coin. Heads it's Scott. Tails it's Leapai. Hold on a second...

Heads. Scott wins.

That's how you pick these kind of fights!

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

"Michael Marley?????????????????"



I'm guessing you are a big fan of Mike Marley, huh, Kid?



-Randy G.

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stormcentre:

Alexander is not faster than Kahn.

He has better punch resistance than Kahn though (not hard though).

So perhaps a good question may be . . . . is Alexander a better, more powerful, and craftier southpaw than Pacquiao (only sparring I know; but a lot of it), Collazo and Judah?

Cause if he's not, then he probably won't fare too well.

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Radam G:

"How about this hot shot? haha i heard Tim Bradley thinks it's a younger guy wearing a mask. Anyway, how about the way he slipped that jab and came back with some serious loopers that make Maidanas punches seem straight as a pin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HJiOc-qNik"


That is what old skool will do. The late, great trainers Champ Channey and Frankie Karr were in their late 60s and 70s and still sparring with young pugs and knocking them down and out. Holla!

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Kid Blast:

Michael Marley?????????????????

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Kid Blast:

One very tough Pole who totally exposed Superman

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amayseng:

"I think prior to his injuries and decline, Sergio Martinez may well beat him. Love GGG, but don't see him as unbeatable at all. A good puncher with decent speed and defence should fancy their chances of getting him into a 50/50 shootout. I repeat, he's there to hit and somebody with that little head movement will get hit and hurt sooner or later. They always do (think Kostya Tszyu). Having said that, there's no-one around at the moment that's capable. Quillan can punch but he lacks the all-round game."

Maybe he is there to be hit because he has not had one guy with power or skills enough to challenge him and make him adjust.

Even someone as great as Floyd adjusts to each fighter....Against Cotto Floyd was there to be hit and hit often. Against the Ghost Floyd was no where near that pocket to be hit or take punishment...


GGG is not a robot, all fighters especially elite will adjust.

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amayseng:

"Yes. Proska is good. Pirog is a potential great. Where’s he been, BTW? Have I just not been paying attention?"

He hurt his back, and has been out ever since.

I have the same injury and it is a life ruiner. He will probably never be back..

Some days I feel like a million bucks, others I can't put my socks on...Not kidding...

Herniated discs, Degenerative Disc Disease, is a killer. Pirog had a great future ahead...Poor guy.

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flackoguapo:

How about this hot shot? haha i heard Tim Bradley thinks it's a younger guy wearing a mask. Anyway, how about the way he slipped that jab and came back with some serious loopers that make Maidanas punches seem straight as a pin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HJiOc-qNik

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amayseng:

"1,304,000 were disappointed in Rubio's effort."

haha agreed


Rubio said "F this BS"

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amayseng:

"Not only should the guy's license be revoked, he should be held on charges of assault with deadly weapons. Did you see the other "brave" fighter get out of the ring as fast as he could?

-Randy G."


First thing I thought of Commish, how did that guy not step in and grab that guy?

Almost as appalling as that fighter sucker punching an older man.

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Radam G:

Here we go again! C'mon! STOP, ALREADY!!! Da Manny is speaking figuratively not literally. And Filipino Catholicism is charismatic. We are not quiet-in-mass/church Europeans. We have a good grand time in church services. BTW, Da Manny is still CATHOLIC, plain and simple. He has not converted to ANY other denomination of Christianity.

When Da Manny first grew his beard and started wearing hats, a wild rumor came out that he was converting to Islam and was going to join al Qaeda. OMFG! It never stops.

Wow! What is the big deal with the "Black Nazarene" brought from Mexico? And Da Manny finding "Black Jesus in Manila?" Da Manny has also been to Leyte where "Black Jesus(')s moms "Black Madonna" resides. She came from Japan. Hehehe!

This copy has a severe cultural misinterpretation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk3au0CDxWQ. Holla!

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Kid Blast:

Worse than Bruce Lee.

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Kid Blast:

Why?

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Radam G:

"I am watching this one closer than you know!



-Randy G."




Not closer than Da Don K. There will be no go until he gets his way in this show. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5RdQ_z0yXU. The man can BLOW. Holla!

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Radam G:

"It looks like the holdup is more with Stiverne's promoter, Don King, than anywhere else. All parties involved want the fight: The champion. The challenger. Their managers. Even their promoters. There seems to be a sticking point between Bermane Stiverne and Don King. They've had problems before, then ironed them out.



Looks like they are having problems again.



Plus, knowing King, he probably is looking for some kind of promotional rights to Deontay Wilder, should he beat King's champion, Stiverne. Wilder's manager (Jay Deas), adviser (Al Haymon) and promoter (Golden Boy) are having none of that.



Mauricio Sulaiman has told King to close the deal. The threat of the title being stripped from Stiverne hangs over King's head. If King doesn't close the deal, the WBC will vacate the title, then have Wilder face someone else instead of Stiverne. The winner will be the new WBC Heavyweight Champion.



Your move, Mr. King.



-Randy G."




Da Don K is enjoying the moment before he gets on his moolah lifting GOAT-Ali-and-Iron-Mike style: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SWF2sdyKm0. Holla!

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brownsugar:

Great find on the article RG....its seems like you went deep to snag that one. Like T.Springs.

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brownsugar:

"Check out the latest TSS PxP Ratings. You--yes, YOU--have put Rigo at #3 in the PxP best-around ratings. It's hard to disagree. Especially when he's in the ring, doing his thing.



I have seen some on here say he's "boring." Really! Just because a guy is hard to land leather on doesn't make him boring. Excuse me, but Richar Abril, holder of one of boxing's lightweight belts, is boring. He's a runner. The bell rings and the fight becomes the "Richar Abril Invitational Track Meet." Thanks, but no thanks.



Guillermo Rigondeaux is your consummate boxer/puncher. He is ultra-fast and has the moves of a jack rabbit. When you reach for him he's gone.



Watch his counter-punching, though. He dazzled Nonito Donaire with his near-unstoppable counter right jabs.



Run? He doesn't run. He can slug it out and HAS slugged it out. But why should he when he can box so magnificently?



Rigo's toughest fight is not in a ring. I believe he would hand guys like Leo Santa Cruz, Carl Frampton and Scott Quigg their first loss. No, his toughest outings are not inside the ring. They're outside. He only has two ears, but has way too many mouths attached to those ears.



It's not as if he believes every one of them. He just believes the one attached to his ear at that moment. Same thing, I know, but different. He doesn't know who to trust. I guess when you come from the Communist upbringing of Cuba to the shores of freedom, it's so overwhelming you just know where to turn.



Guillermo Rigondeaux knows how to do one thing, and how to do that one thing better than anybody else. That's box.



But the clock is ticking. He's not getting any younger. He's got a managerial contract with Gary Hyde and an apparent promotional deal with Caribe (although Hyde says it is over with). Sounds to me like all parties are headed to arbitration.

This will only slow Rigo's career, maybe even derail it.



It's a shame.



It's a shame for Rigo and it's a shame for fight fans.



That's two of the world's best fighters--count Andre Ward as the other--who are thinking about boxing and talking about boxing but not doing much more than that.



The only place they are throwing punches is in the gym. In there, they aren't earning money.



And in there, we can't enjoy them.



-Randy G."




Absolutely Commish.... I stand by the # 3 position with the entirety of my list making resolve....Its not his boxing prowess that has me concerned...

.its just the fact that there is no rhyme or reason to his management process.

The manager and co-manager don't seem know the exact nature of Rigo's legal obligations.

Present circumstances between Rigo and Hyde makes the business relationship between the two sound contentious and hostile.



Also Hyde has to write letters to Rigo....How estranged is that?



Do they even have a semblance of a working relationship?



It looks like Rigo has already chosen which master he will serve.



Only the other guy hasn't received the memo.

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Radam G:

Hehehehe! Wow! You got jokes! But Rocky definitely didn't show rust. But maybe he is piggyback staging and raging for a comeback like S-Briggs.

"LET'S GO, CHAMP!" Holla!

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Froggy:

"Check out fallen-on-hard times and long-homeless-by-choice ex-world champion Rocky Lockridge. He cracked a bulling street bum and put him to sleep like he did Uncle Roger Many back in day day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHm31XliRgY. Holla!"



Rocky didn't show much ring rust !

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Radam G:

Check out fallen-on-hard times and long-homeless-by-choice ex-world champion Rocky Lockridge. He cracked a bulling street bum and put him to sleep like he did Uncle Roger Many back in da day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHm31XliRgY. Holla!

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The Shadow:

"Shadow only scratched the surface with those videos... GGG's promoter K2's Greg Loeffler and Coach Able have stated many reasons why GGG shouldn't fight Ward. But GGG can be found in a vid introducing himself to Ward at a press conference ( hoping to promote a fight between them) But its Ggg's management who don't feel GGG isnt ready and they have said so many times...that's the reason GGG never mentions Ward anymore after fights... He's been ordered not to discuss Ward after Ward said he would accept GGG's offer.

The fighter isn't worried
The management is."


Round of applause for the one and only Brownsugar. You're absolutely right. His management knows EXACTLY what time it is.

And here's the thing that's so crazy to me. They hide behind the claim that Ward is not a draw. Yet the facts say he does fine gates in the Bay and his last fight against Rodriguez drew 1.3 million viewers.

GGG is a fighter. I'm sure he would fight a lion.

But his handlers?

They would rather get sodomized by an angry Mike Tyson before throwing their rising star -- and future cash cow -- to Andre Ward.

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New York Tony:

And me without my violin.

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The Commish:

"balderdash, Randy. You are being way too nice here.

The premise of this seems to be the thinnest of reasons to write an article slating Golota. And I will stand by that until Kingdome Come."


I guess it's how you look at it. I really didn't see the article as one written to bash Golota as much as it was written to praise Augustus and his courage, his will to fight on.

I even went back and re-read it. I do get your point. Especially, after the writer set the table early how Golota could have fought on, then ended the piece with "...he can never be likened to Andrew Golota."

I always felt bad for Golota. I thought he had all the attributes to become a world champion. That was BEFORE we learned additional information about him.

Still, I found myself thinking more--much more--about Augustus in Mr. Fernandez' article, than I did about anything or anybody else.

Perhaps the writer harbors some deep resentment towards Golota. Only he can answer that.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

"I will forgive you for not having "Manos De Piedra" on your list ….fine story and love the fact that you were motivated by Ali's actions and mistreatment to one day lead those organizations responsible for some of those slights and to issue such a public apology …priceless!! … talk about walking the walk !! …one CAN make a difference."

The guys on my list were not just my favorite to watch, but all became very close with me on a personal level, from my days at World Boxing & International Boxing Magazines to my days at Ring Magazine to my years as a sportscaster to my years as NY's Boxing Commish.

While I know Duran--he's even asked me to call him "Cholo"--the men on my list are/were among my closest friends. The exception was Kosta Tszyu.

When I put my list of All-Time Greats up here, rest assured the name Roberto Duran will be on the list. He was incomparable!

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Check out the latest TSS PxP Ratings. You--yes, YOU--have put Rigo at #3 in the PxP best-around ratings. It's hard to disagree. Especially when he's in the ring, doing his thing.

I have seen some on here say he's "boring." Really! Just because a guy is hard to land leather on doesn't make him boring. Excuse me, but Richar Abril, holder of one of boxing's lightweight belts, is boring. He's a runner. The bell rings and the fight becomes the "Richar Abril Invitational Track Meet." Thanks, but no thanks.

Guillermo Rigondeaux is your consummate boxer/puncher. He is ultra-fast and has the moves of a jack rabbit. When you reach for him he's gone.

Watch his counter-punching, though. He dazzled Nonito Donaire with his near-unstoppable counter right jabs.

Run? He doesn't run. He can slug it out and HAS slugged it out. But why should he when he can box so magnificently?

Rigo's toughest fight is not in a ring. I believe he would hand guys like Leo Santa Cruz, Carl Frampton and Scott Quigg their first loss. No, his toughest outings are not inside the ring. They're outside. He only has two ears, but has way too many mouths attached to those ears.

It's not as if he believes every one of them. He just believes the one attached to his ear at that moment. Same thing, I know, but different. He doesn't know who to trust. I guess when you come from the Communist upbringing of Cuba to the shores of freedom, it's so overwhelming you just know where to turn.

Guillermo Rigondeaux knows how to do one thing, and how to do that one thing better than anybody else. That's box.

But the clock is ticking. He's not getting any younger. He's got a managerial contract with Gary Hyde and an apparent promotional deal with Caribe (although Hyde says it is over with). Sounds to me like all parties are headed to arbitration.
This will only slow Rigo's career, maybe even derail it.

It's a shame.

It's a shame for Rigo and it's a shame for fight fans.

That's two of the world's best fighters--count Andre Ward as the other--who are thinking about boxing and talking about boxing but not doing much more than that.

The only place they are throwing punches is in the gym. In there, they aren't earning money.

And in there, we can't enjoy them.

-Randy G.

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brownsugar:

Seems like a lot of unconnected dots and loose ends. EM almost to had become an Arbiter or emissary of sorts between conflicted factions just to get an approximation of the facts. Hyde and Caribe are telling the same stories they had a year ago. Its a little scary that Rigo and Hyde are still virtual strangers and there hasn't been any full disclosure of the legal parameters between all parties involved. Sounds like Rigo has signed a few contracts too many. And nobody wants to work as a team.

I sure hope Rigo hasn't become too complacent with his upgraded standard of living in the meantime.

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teaser:

I will forgive you for not having "Manos De Piedra" on your list .fine story and love the fact that you were motivated by Ali's actions and mistreatment to one day lead those organizations responsible for some of those slights and to issue such a public apology priceless!! talk about walking the walk !! one CAN make a difference.

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brownsugar:

Sounds like a tremendously triumphant moment..
....along with a fair measure of payback to the small minded persecutors of Ali's motives and beliefs.
Let us know when the book arrives.

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