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stormcentre:

I need another Vodka and it's not even midday.

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Pazuzu:

"The quill pen is usually made of a bird or large duck feather so maybe it is all in the name. "

Ha ha! GGG is smart. He keeps his mouth shut, and lets Sanchez and Loeffler talks all the trash. Then Gennady's fists get the final word in the ring.

Whether he wants to fight him or not, Kid Choc would do well to take a page out of Gennady's book.

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Radam G:

"Quillin says GGG doesn't bring money to the table and he doesn't care what fans think. What a dummy.

Quillin hasn't even headlined a card yet and GGG makes more than he does. HBO is behind GGG and he headlines cards in NYC where Quillin lives. I would say that GGG has more fans in NYC than Quillin does.

TsAH should advise this guy to shut up and keep fighting the easiest opponents out there."


Hehehehe! I hear ya! Amen! Amen! The Q-till -- I mean Q-man -- is sounding a bit stupid! Holla!

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deepwater2:

"If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck..."

The quill pen is usually made of a bird or large duck feather so maybe it is all in the name.

I remember watching Rosado catch Quillin way more often than he should have. I remember having NDam ahead on the scorecards despite being knocked down 6 times.

Maybe After those fights ,Quillin realized he didn't belong at the elite level.

Canadian David Lemiuex headlined at the Barclays. Something Brooklyn resident Quillin can't say yet. GGG headline the small room and the big room at MSG , something Quillin can't say yet.

Will Quillin ever headline at Barclays? Maybe but he will be the B side against Lemieux or Jacobs.

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Pazuzu:

"The worst thing for a big KO killer...........is a slick boxer who has good power and is not afraid to be in that pocket landing combinations.

BS by a clear UD"


I have to watch more tape before I make my pick, but I'll put money down now that it ain't going 12 rounds.

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Radam G:

"All hail the Mounties...... and Canada, one of the most beautiful places in the world.(next to Ohio).

Neither my crystal ball nor my stargazer glasses are working properly to predict the winner of the Wilder vs Stiverne battle.
So i ground them up into dust and set it ablaze upon my insense dish so I could get a whiff of humility before I made my final prediction.

Wilder has been criticized for lacking a steel reenforced concrete chin because he was caught flush by Harold Sconiers early in his career by a punch that he barely survived. Since then the video has been scrubbed off YouTube although it may be found elsewhere on the web.

But let's not forget that Ali was laid-low by Henry Cooper early in his career yet went on to force the hard hitting Sonny Liston to retire on his stool, never to be the same again.

The Hulking 7ft tall Valuev was buckled by one of the Smallest Heavyweights in the division...David Haye who went onto survive a whole 12 rounds against Doctor Steel hammer...

And now Doctor SteelHammer has gone from being the most verbally abused boxers due to being handicapped by a China chin to a becoming a complete fight who has literally no vulnerabilities.

If Wilder was actually KO'd in the amateurs as mentioned in an earlier post he was likely standing up when the referee stopped the fight and walked him back to his corner.

Something that has happened to many future champs who competed in the amateurs including David Hayes and Lucian Bute.

There is something about the fighting spirit of a man combined with a healthy dose of adrenaline and confidence that makes him greater than the sum of his parts.

Wilder is a hair trigger bomber whose best punches are landed after he senses a weakness or an opening.

Its not so much that Wilder throws his punches..... Its more like Wilder is releasing a coiled up spring at the slightest anticipation of an opening.

Its like air rushing at hundreds of miles per hour toward a pin whole leak in a vacuum.

Slip up one time and he will find you.

and lets not forget that one of Wilders victims in the amateurs was a Russian who would later become a gold medalist.

If you go to the fight expecting Wilder to faint at the first stiff breeze that crosses his chin ...be prepared to be disappointed.

Look at late bloomer Bermane Stivernes record. Until six fights ago everyone of his opponents had half as many loses as the had wins..( before Ray Austin)

Some had more losses than wins and a few had hardly any experience at all.
But Stiverne can box and he does many things inside the ring.. His age is actually a plus instead of a minus and he is stocking nuclear weapons of mass destruction in his arsenal as well. Not the megatonnage that Deontay has but Stiverne has enough explosive power to get it done and he's the more experienced and skilled boxer.

However.. Wilder is the most physically gifted and explosive... All I'm saying is whomever you pick you can't be completely wrong."


Nope! D-Wild got kayoed in the amateurs. But it doesn't mean nuffin!'

GOAT Ali, the late, great "Smokin' Joe Frazier and "Iron" Mike Tyson got knocked out in the amateurs. And it didn't affect their professional game.

I believe that the D-Wild will lose because he has little pro game. But if he wins, more power to him. Holla!

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brownsugar:

All hail the Mounties...... and Canada, one of the most beautiful places in the world.(next to Ohio).

Neither my crystal ball nor my stargazer glasses are working properly to predict the winner of the Wilder vs Stiverne battle.
So i ground them up into dust and set it ablaze upon my insense dish so I could get a whiff of humility before I made my final prediction.

Wilder has been criticized for lacking a steel reenforced concrete chin because he was caught flush by Harold Sconiers early in his career by a punch that he barely survived. Since then the video has been scrubbed off YouTube although it may be found elsewhere on the web.

But let's not forget that Ali was laid-low by Henry Cooper early in his career yet went on to force the hard hitting Sonny Liston to retire on his stool, never to be the same again.

The Hulking 7ft tall Valuev was buckled by one of the Smallest Heavyweights in the division...David Haye who went onto survive a whole 12 rounds against Doctor Steel hammer...

And now Doctor SteelHammer has gone from being one of the most verbally abused boxers due to owning a China chin to a becoming a complete fight who has literally no vulnerabilities.

If Wilder was actually KO'd in the amateurs as mentioned in an earlier post he was likely standing up when the referee stopped the fight and walked him back to his corner.

Something that has happened to many future champs who competed in the amateurs including David Hayes and Lucian Bute.

There is something about the fighting spirit of a man combined with a healthy dose of adrenaline and confidence that makes him greater than the sum of his parts.

Wilder is a hair trigger bomber whose best punches are landed after he senses a weakness or an opening.

Its not so much that Wilder throws his punches..... Its more like Wilder is releasing a coiled up spring at the slightest anticipation of an opening.

Its like air rushing at hundreds of miles per hour toward a pin whole leak in a vacuum.

Slip up one time and he will find you.

and lets not forget that one of Wilders victims in the amateurs was a Russian who would later become a gold medalist.

If you go to the fight expecting Wilder to faint at the first stiff breeze that crosses his chin ...be prepared to be disappointed.

Look at late bloomer Bermane Stivernes record. Until six fights ago everyone of his opponents had half as many loses as they had wins..( before Ray Austin)

Some had more losses than wins and a few had hardly any experience at all.
But Stiverne can box and he does many things inside the ring.. His age is actually a plus instead of a minus and he is stocking nuclear weapons of mass destruction in his arsenal as well. Not the megatonnage that Deontay has but Stiverne has enough explosive power to get it done and he's the more experienced and skilled boxer.

However.. Wilder is the most physically gifted and explosive between the two. All I'm saying is whomever you pick you can't be completely wrong. This fight can easily go either way.

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Pazuzu:

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

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Radam G:

"I agree, I am a bit biased about this since Stiverne is my homeboy via Montreal, contrary to what some have been saying Bermane is about American as Lennox Lewis was, they both trained in the States, smart move, but they ARE both Canadian !"

It is all about gettin' in and fittin' in, so that stash of cash won't be thin.

When Amateur Boxing of Canada was dishing out the take-care-of-your-arse moolah to Lennox and B-Ware, they were gladly Canadian. As pros their big MONEY was/is not coming from Canada, so they don't see Canada anymore.

Another heavyweight champion -- the late Trevor Berbick -- did not do that to Canada, because he got the bucks. But then in the end, Canada deported him back to his native-born Jamaica.

Canada is a hotbed of producing heavyweight champions of the world. But it gets no love for it. Holla!

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amayseng:

I would watch it.

Mayorga may be a crazy person but hell if he is not entertaining. I can't get enough of him in and out of the ring.


Though GGG woulder murder him inside of a round of course.

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amayseng:

The worst thing for a big KO killer...........is a slick boxer who has good power and is not afraid to be in that pocket landing combinations.

BS by a clear UD

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Froggy:

"Nice copy with a strong punch. And I'm betting it is stronger than D-Wild's chin.



I can see him getting hurt to the body and the head. He won't last longer than it took to read this Thread. I cannot see him going more than four rounds. And a first-round, less-than-a-minute kayo of D-Wild would not surprise me. Holla!"




I agree, I am a bit biased about this since Stiverne is my homeboy via Montreal, contrary to what some have been saying Bermane is about American as Lennox Lewis was, they both trained in the States, smart move, but they ARE both Canadian !

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brownsugar:

"https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=d1a3975d89&view=fimg&th=14a8bd58fdb2b9c5&attid=0.0.1&disp=emb&attbid=ANGjdJ_JALayhfnsRBSGVA6qD0bV5_hkEU-0EH7JOc02Xf1L8USvPyAkbISiS14xHrnQOj0soYaARgkQ7MvOkxh6mhmamHo0F79JlioIrD83Nv_lGbeelsT2LjbZfi8&sz=w762-h244&ats=1419736348883&rm=14a8bd58fdb2b9c5&zw&atsh=1

HBO®"BOXING'S BEST" FOR 2014PRESENTS A

POWERHOUSE LINEUP OF STAR PERFORMANCES

EIGHT FIGHT SERIES KICKS OFF TONIGHT ON HBO

It's a holiday treat for HBO Boxing fans. Over four consecutive nights, the HBO service will present eight of the year's standout fights, spotlighting some of the biggest names in the sport in riveting performances. Featured are signature wins byManny Pacquiao,Miguel Cotto,Gennady Golovkin, Sergey Kovalev, Juan Manuel Marquez, Wladimir KlitschkoandTerence Crawford.



Starting tonight, HBO will replayeight major league showdowns from this year sprinkled over four consecutive nights. Fight fans will get to revisit the most memorable, most significant and most compelling bouts that were televised on HBO. All the fights will also be available on HBO ON DEMAND®and the HBO GO®service.

The "Boxing's Best"lineup includes:









Saturday, December 27 at 11:30 p.m.





Gennady Golovkinvs. Daniel Geale











Gennady Golovkin vs.Marco Antonio Rubio

Manny Pacquiao vs.Timothy Bradley Jr. 2









Sunday, December 28 at 12:00 a.m.





Bernard Hopkinsvs. Sergey Kovalev

















Monday, December 29 at 11:30 p.m.





Miguel Cottovs. Sergio Martinez











Terence Crawford vs.Yuriorkis Gamboa









Tuesday, December 30 at 11:30 p.m.





Juan Manuel Marquezvs. Mike Alvarado

Wladimir Klitschkovs. Kubrat Pulev









*Winners names are in italics.

All times are ET/PT."






This is a great night for Good Boy Nation.

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stormcentre:

"BS's fights against Chris A were more impressive than Wilders entire career.

In a vacuum I would pick BS by way of KO 100 out of a 100 times. If Firtha can outbox Wilder at times than BS should control the entire fight.

Just some angles to think about

TsAH would like a piece of the heavyweight championship more than he likes feeding his lower weight guys stiffs. It would be the biggest boxing moment for tsAH, and that means something.

The oldest trick in the boxing book is to soften up a fighter with woman and or money. Beware of the honey traps BS! Don should lock BS up to keep him safe from outside influences.

Who will the ref be? Will he let them fight on the inside? If so advantage to BS. If not advantage to Wilder.

BS knows all about wilder getting knocked out in the amateurs so will he come in just looking for the KO or will he move his head and box?

Don King did not get any options on Wilder so BS will have the full support of Don. I hope that Don sticks up for his fighter and tries to get some advantages for him.

I have to pick BS by knockout at this time, as it gets closer and I know who the ref is I might make a change."


Good scouting report D2.

I haven't really followed either guy that much.

Was Stiverne a pretty hot amateur?

What's his rise through the pro ranks been like?

Moved along fast? Slow? Protected.

Fed softs?

Or has he done it real?

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deepwater2:

BS's fights against Chris A were more impressive than Wilders entire career.



In a vacuum I would pick BS by way of KO 100 out of a 100 times. If Firtha can outbox Wilder at times than BS should control the entire fight.



Just some angles to think about



TsAH would like a piece of the heavyweight championship more than he likes feeding his lower weight guys stiffs. It would be the biggest boxing moment for tsAH, and that means something.



The oldest trick in the boxing book is to soften up a fighter with woman and or money. Beware of the honey traps BS! Don should lock BS up to keep him safe from outside influences.



Who will the ref be? Will he let them fight on the inside? If so advantage to BS. If not advantage to Wilder.



BS knows all about wilder getting knocked out in the amateurs so will he come in just looking for the KO or will he move his head and box?



Don King did not get any options on Wilder so BS will have the full support of Don. I hope that Don sticks up for his fighter and tries to get some advantages for him.



I have to pick BS by knockout at this time, as it gets closer and I know who the ref is I might make a change.

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stormcentre:

What about Anthony Joshua?

Does he fit into the picture anywhere?

Or is he too green just yet and, perhaps, the Joshua drums are being beaten by the British too soon?

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Radam G:

Nice copy with a strong punch. And I'm betting it is stronger than D-Wild's chin.

I can see him getting hurt to the body and the head. He won't last longer than it took to read this Thread. I cannot see him going more than four rounds. And a first-round, less-than-a-minute kayo of D-Wild would not surprise me. Holla!

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stormcentre:

"I wish he gave us Garcia Khan 2 instead."

Yep, me too.

That's the one I'd like to see too.

However, if Kahn stays focused for the entire fight and performs as he did with Alexander, who knows . . . the outcome may be different.

Kahn V Thurman would be a good eliminator as well.

Or . . and this is a bit mean . . . . . . Kahn V Clottey.

Clottey look really good and strong against Mundine.

I know Kahn is much faster, but Clottey is a hard guy to hurt and slow down.

Actually, it wouldn't bother me to see Mayweather fight Kahn either . . but I am already getting tired of Kahn crowing on about that possibility.

Anyway, back to where this line originated from; so, . . the fact that Haymon has given us Kahn V Alexander . . . it’s not all bad then?

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amayseng:

"No, he will not be stripped. It is my believe if an inductee decided to become an ax murderer upon retirement and then induction, they would just add an ax to the display."

As they should

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Radam G:

"No, he will not be stripped. It is my believe if an inductee decided to become an ax murderer upon retirement and then induction, they would just add an ax to the display."

Wow! I should have known that in this "theatre of the unexpected." Holla!

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dino da vinci:

No, he will not be stripped. It is my believe if an inductee decided to become an ax murderer upon retirement and then induction, they would just add an ax to the display.

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Bernie Campbell:

Im so tired of the showmanship and the matched unrivals of proffessional boxing that the fights that you really do want to see never materialize! The promoters play with the public eye based on race baiting...anthropological characteristics..attitude..and basic theatrics in arranging matches! I say enough with the garbage and may the best man win! I must also say the Straweight and other lower divisions should get Credo too! By the way Who the hell is Sam Watson and why does this bafoon deserve credo in the sweet sport!

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deepwater2:

"HOFer Virgil Hill -- at 50-year-old -- is scheduled to make a comeback in February.



Will he be stripped of his place in the International Hall of Fame since it requires for you to be out of boxing for five years before you can be nominated and selected? Anybody who know how the process works, HOLLA!



Has anybody other selectees done what Hill is planning to do? Holla!"




He should just do some exhibitions if he has the hunger again. we might see a Roy Jones Jr rematch.I don't want to see that.

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deepwater2:

"Didn't Haymon just give us all Kahn V Alexander?



He must have, as I recall Sam Watson ensuring he was in most post fight interview camera frames, if not hanging off the shoulder of the fighters themselves.



:)"




I wish he gave us Garcia Khan 2 instead.

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stormcentre:

Didn't Haymon just give us all Kahn V Alexander?

He must have, as I recall Sam Watson ensuring he was in most post fight interview camera frames, if not hanging off the shoulder of the fighters themselves.

:)

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Radam G:

"Haymon knows that by introducing another broadcast/network player (like the NBC) to top talent (he controls) all the belts loosen a little, and perhaps the cookie jar isn't closed so tight.

I think Haymon, like most with experience in the game's ivory towers, knows how to groom and manage "B" side fighters; so they, either are, or seem, like genuine contenders.

Aside from fame, respect, girlies, cars and all that; fighters want enough longevity in the sport to generate an income that will carry them when they retire, and in that sense Haymon seems to have the business model.

Many fighters just see the money that Mayweather is making, how he chooses who the opponent is, and that alone is a good enough advertisement to sign with Al."


Great scooping! I think you it hit on the head about tsAH. That is classic about advertisement. Holla!

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stormcentre:

Haymon knows that by introducing another broadcast/network player (like the NBC) to top talent (he controls) all the belts loosen a little, and perhaps the cookie jar isn't closed so tight.

I think Haymon, like most with experience in the game's ivory towers, knows how to groom and manage "B" side fighters; so they, either are, or seem, like genuine contenders.

Aside from fame, respect, girlies, cars and all that; fighters want enough longevity in the sport to generate an income that will carry them when they retire, and in that sense Haymon seems to have the business model.

Many fighters just see the money that Mayweather is making, how he chooses who the opponent is, and that alone is a good enough advertisement to sign with Al.

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stormcentre:

Truth be known, Lennox's dreadies and his scalp's follicular performance was well past their use by date even when he was fighting - but who's gonna tell him that?

He looks better now.

:)

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Froggy:

"Wow! I wanna go there. But the wifey ain't having it. She says that I would look like a sick Buddha suffering from malnutrition. But I bet I would like a young, sexy Filipino Kojack. Hehe! Holla!"



Maybe the wifey thinks you are right Radam G, HE, HE, HE !

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Radam G:

"Give that man a lollipop ! He inspired MMH, B-Hop, Big George Foreman, Earnie Shavers, James Toney, RJJ, Evander Holyfied, Joe Frazier, Dwight Muhammad Qawi, Mike Tyson, can't forget Butterbean, Buster Douglas, and countless others who I can't think of at the moment ! Plus many fighters before Kojack and they all look good without hair, I'm thinking of trying it myself, getting there anyhow !"

Wow! I wanna go there. But the wifey ain't having it. She says that I would look like a sick Buddha suffering from malnutrition. But I bet I would look like a young, sexy Filipino Kojack. Hehe! Holla!

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