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Kid Blast:

No. Won't happen. What would we have to write about if it did?

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Kid Blast:

How about Ruslan vs Mikey to put an end to this madness?

As for the Heartthrob, never again.

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Kid Blast:

"It's interesting how possibly the 3 most avoided fighters who happen to be from the Eastern Bloc are 8, 9 and 10. I would have Golovkin and Vasyl in my top 5 or maybe higher. Kovalev around 7 or 8. But still surprising Marquez, Gonzalez and and Froch are ranked a lot higher than those 3."


Yep!!

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Skibbz:

It's interesting how possibly the 3 most avoided fighters who happen to be from the Eastern Bloc are 8, 9 and 10. I would have Golovkin and Vasyl in my top 5 or maybe higher. Kovalev around 7 or 8. But still surprising Marquez, Gonzalez and and Froch are ranked a lot higher than those 3.

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Kid Blast:

"I could care less about the new TS ratings. What is your list? Estrada is on everyone's ;list but mine. WTF not sure where you are going with his but I'll defend mine and stand by it unless you can come up with a more compelling one. :)"

Now I see what went haywire here. I meant to sat "I could care less about the new Tran list," not the new TS list. F--king initials got me confused. My bad

Arghh.

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Skibbz:

I'm going to have to think about this one. A few off the top of my head would be;

Ruslan Provodnikov vs Lucas Matthysse

Ruslan Provodnikov vs Tim Bradley II

Ruslan Provodnikov vs Adrien Broner

Keith Thurman vs Amir Khan

Keith Thurman vs Kell Brook

Canelo vs Cotto (fingerscrossed)

Canelo vs Golovkin

Golovkin vs Ward

Froch vs Groves III (Groves still reckons he's not beat... Hahahaha)

Framption vs Quigg

Frampton vs Santa Cruz



and Pacquiao vs Mayweather

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Pazuzu:

Great list, Commish. I probably feel about Gennady Golovkin the same way you do about Wilder, so I've got him on here a couple of times. I've included 12 fights too because, well, it's the holidays, so let's be generous.

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1. GENNADY GOLOVKIN vs ANDRE WARD: Ward is probably the only human being alive who can beat GGG at 168 lbs or less. If the SOG wants a tune-up after he resolves his legal issues, this fight won't happen until 2016. But, boy, will it be worth the wait...

2. GENNADY GOLOVKIN vs Winner of COTTO/CANELO: Golovkin is too strong for any fighter to handle at 154 or 160 (including Floyd Mayweather), but this would be a great fight as long as it lasted. It would also give us an undisputed, unified middleweight champion, and (just might) finally silence all the Golovkin haters.

3. VASYL LOMACHENKO vs NICHOLAS WALTERS: If they gave out PPV's for great fights, rather than marketability, this would be the top fight of 2015. Two super-skilled, aggressive, powerful, boxer-punchers. My head explodes just thinking about this fight. Possible fight of the year.

4. FLOYD MAYWEATHER vs MANNY PACQUIAO: I'll believe it when I see it... (C'MON ALREADY!)

5. SERGEY KOVALEV vs ADONIS STEVENSON: Kovalev needs to get his KO groove back, and Stevenson deserves an a**-whoopin.

6. MIGUEL COTTO vs SAUL ALVAREZ: What a great fight. Cotto looks to cement his legacy. Canelo looks to make his. The PR-Mexican rivalry continues. Put this fight in MSG on Cinco de Mayo; it will set records and make boat loads of money for everyone involved.

7. TERENCE CRAWFORD vs LUCAS MATTHYSSE: Crawford takes care of business against Beltran and then moves up to 140lbs for some fresh meat. Crawford vs La Maquina would be an absolute barn burner. Another possible fight of the year.

8. DEONTAY WILDER vs WLADIMIR CLINCHKO: In Wilder, there may finally be a fighter who has the height, power and skills necessary to unseat Klitschko. Or not. One thing for sure, this fight would not go the distance, and it would probably end with a Krakatoa-level knock out. The king is dead! Long live the king!

9. ROMAN GONZALEZ vs CARLOS CUADRAS: Yes! What the Commish said.

10. BERMANE STIVERNE vs DEONTAY WILDER: Two legit heavyweight contenders going at it for the title shot. Both fighters are hungry. Both fighters are KO artists. But Stiverne is going to find out that Wilder is no Chris Areola. Someone's going to get hurt before this one is through.

11. MANNY PACQUIAO vs DANNY GARCIA: Manny Pacquiao probably has an easier time making 140 than Garcia does now, but however you want it (140-147), this is a good match-up between two highly skilled, aggressive fighters. Besides Mayweather, this might be the most dangerous fight out there for Pacquiao.

12. CHRIS ALGIERI vs AMIR KHAN: I've got 12 wishes here, so why not. This pick is based on the assumption that Algieri dumps Tim "Stay in your cage!" Lane and picks up a real coach like Freddy Roach. Under the right tutelage, Algieri has the physical gifts, heart, work ethic and intelligence to become a very dangerous fighter. Also, he and Amir Khan are two of the chinniest fighters out there today. They both also have a ton of guts. Get these two guys in the ring together and we could see a knockdown every round.

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Skibbz:

We were all expecting it but I have to admit there were a few plus points. Ruslan looked faster on his feet and was finding new angles we haven't seen him experiment with before. He was particularly looking for the left to the body which was nice to see. He didn't quite land it on the veteran Castillo but it's the effort that counts for me. All in all a good performance and another one to add to the Provodnikov highlight reel.

@Deep I've been thinking of that fight a while now, but I think he might be a turn off.. Too much of a stinker for the fans to pay to see...

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Kid Blast:

One other thing, I can get comfortable with a TSS list s well. No [problem. But my list is making the rounds out there and I just wanted to share it. Wasn't trying to say it was better than something I have not yet seen. There is no such thing as a correct or right list/

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Kid Blast:

I have already seen the Trans list and the compromised Ring List and Boxing scene's (which I believe has a 3-way tie for 10th place) and I don't fully agree with them though I have supported the Trans Board Process publicly and more often than not agree with it. But it was you who mentioned them, not me. And it was you who lost it, not me.

And it is you who is throwing out the personal insults although I suspect you might have some kind of personal agenda. I'm not going to get into the gutter with you Randy but I must say I didn't expect that kind of venom from someone I thought was a friend and someone who is a moderator. Like I said, come up with a more compelling lost (like a poster on the Saddo forum did) and I'll concede if I think it's better.

Does TSS have some kind of arrangement with the Trans people? Is the Trans above criticism? And why does this concern YOU so much?

Bottom line: your negative comments are disappointing and disproportionate to the debate.

As for the "you are tops!" snipe, nothing like getting in the last word.

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Froggy:

Fights I'd like to see in 2015 ? 1-Pacquiao-Mayweather, I might even go to see it if it is in Vegas, I haven't been there since April 1985, to see Hagler-Hearns, they can try to match that one ! 2-Kovalev-Stevenson 3-Pascal-Stevenson, both my homeboys 4-Guillermo-Lomachenko 5-Golovkin-Ward 6-Pacq vs Broner or Mattysse, like BS said ! 7-Quigg-Frampton 8-Monsour-Briggs 9- Klitschko vs Fury or Wilder 10- Cotto- Alvarez 11-Micky Rourke-Sly Stallone, just joking, sort of !

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deepwater2:

I want to see Ruslan vs Algieri 2 in Las Vegas .

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Radam G:

"I read that Roukes fight was really "awful"... Mickey was still.taking a big chance.... Getting tagged on all that plastic surgery can be dangerous.



And I expected nothing less than a stoppage from Provo against the shop worn Castillo."




Actually that plastic surgery is really stable. You will be surprised of how many pugs had what we in the call "toilet paper skin. Then got a fix up. And Modern skin surgery and hair pugging absolutely amazing. Holla!

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Kid Blast:

Ugh. Freak show

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brownsugar:

I read that Roukes fight was really "awful"... Mickey was still.taking a big chance.... Getting tagged on all that plastic surgery can be dangerous.

And I expected nothing less than a stoppage from Provo against the shop worn Castillo.

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Skibbz:

@Shadow Instead of working the mitts get sparring. Gerry slapping you on the head a few times isn't the best way to learn to keep your hands up. Go to a gym and find a partner to go 5x2 with or 3x5 with and the first time you drop your hand and get clocked... You'll never make that same mistake twice trust me.

In sparring you shouldn't run so much like Algieri, we were taught by putting a hoop on the floor and each fighter sticking one foot in. You don't move the foot out of the hoop. If you spar and are moving around so much you're prone to blistering and that can affect your training in the long run a lot. Plus it's only sparring, you've got some big gloves on and a headguard so if you're covered up and neither of you are putting all your weight behind the punch no one should be getting hurt..

In the amateurs it's all about explosiveness, Algieri's style isn't going to work well. You have to explode onto your opponent, throw 6-8 punches through and around the guard and get out again. It's 3x3 so you've got to show some variety and that can only really be done going forward. If I were you and I wanted to win a title, I would throw Algieri out of my mind, focus on getting as much experience sparring as I can possibly get against short guys, tall guys, fast guys, guys who come forward non stop, guys who wait for you to come in, guys who are as fit as fleas and throw 100 punches without pause.

The amateurs, in England atleast, is a very tough sport. You have tens of thousands of young and hungry guys eager to prove they're the best in their division and they all put in hours of work day in day out.

Mortcola said something very insightful a few days ago, you've got to be smart to reach the top, but you've also got to have the courage to see it through to the end (cause that's where the casserole bakes). You're not going to be TBE immediately, you're going to get beaten up, you're going to get a bloody nose and a few swollen eyes but that's part of the apprenticeships. These are all hurdles everyone has to pass through to see whether or not they have what it takes to reach higher and higher up the ladder. It's not a sport for quitters or people who aren't willing to risk it all to win.

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brownsugar:

I find this nearly impossible to believe from Sam Watson. I got the alert earlier on my face book page and dismissed it. But I hope its true.

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The Shadow:

"Rourke couldn't punch down a pinata. It was a publicity stunt pure and simple. Fun to watch though."

Yeah, I just saw the "fight." That's exactly what it was, a publicity stunt. Dude went down from love taps. But I still think Rourke looked good for his age, though he's probably aided by Botox, pec implants and a little bit of HGH. Haha.

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Skibbz:

They looked good Deep I was at the weigh in earlier today. The atmosphere was pretty electric, and both of them looked very game. I thought someone's going to throw something.. Fair play that no one did. I'm on a bit of a high at the moment after Ruslan, now all I want to see it a barnburner between these two and I'm a very happy man. Little over 24 hours to go!!!

I don't think we should be worried about BJS though, he's a smart fighter and he has enough in his punch to put you away. The only thing in my opinion that chris has over BJS is conditioning and potentially athleticism. But that doesn't matter if you don't know what you're doing.. We shall have to wait and see! I've got 7/1 on a SD for Saunders. Too nice to pass up!

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The Commish:

"I could care less about the new TS ratings. What is your list? Estrada is on everyone's ;list but mine. WTF not sure where you are going with his but I'll defend mine and stand by it unless you can come up with a more compelling one. :)"

You could care less about the TSS list, compiled by many other readers, visitors and regulars here on this site? That's interesting. What makes your PxP list so great, other than the fact they were done by you?

Carl Froch is the fifth-best PxP fighter on this planet? He's better all-around than Guillermo Rigondeaux?

Tim Bradley is the third-best?

Oh, and I did notice that Roman Gonzalez ias second, behind the two who you can't make up your mind over.

I am going to count your list as I compile the new list, which you "could care less about." Will give Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao EACH a first-place ballot, but then, you will be voting for 13 guys, while everyone else votes for 12.

I guess because you feel your list is so terrific, you should be given 13 votes.

Well, thanks for sending in your list. It truly doesn't look bad at all.

Just curious. Why don't you respect the ratings of TSS readers? They are done by many of us, not just one person. I don't necessarily agree with them, but I accept them as the official PxP Ratings in the sport.

Well, being your ratings have already been posted, everybody has a chance to see them and either agree or put up a "more compelling one," to use your words.

Is there are chance you are really El Dude using a different name? If you're not El Dude, I'll fill you in on the legend of El Dude.

El Dude was an interesting character, who hung around this site for a few weeks last Spring. He claimed to be both the most knowledgeable boxign mind and the most prolific writer out there. What he was, in fact, was entertainment...sometimes funny, sometimes factual, but most times pathetic and self-absorbed. With your "I could care less" attitude about the thoughts of others around here and the same feeling of supremacy as El Dude, I started thinking, "Wow, El Dude is back."

So, welcome back, El D. A bunch of us wondered if you'd surface again. Well, here you are. Keep those ratings and other Mensa Society thoughts coming.

You are tops!


-Randy G.

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Skibbz:

"I saw dude in his media workout. I thought he looked good and he's quite the tricky slickster."

Rourke couldn't punch down a pinata. It was a publicity stunt pure and simple. Fun to watch though.

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The Shadow:

"Is that really a picture of tsAH ? I was starting to think that nobody has ever even seen the guy !"

I've seen him, Froggy. Dude really looks like that. LOL. Dresses in black suits, white shirts that look like they were bought from Walmart.

If you didn't know better, you'd think he was one of those middle-age brothers on his way to an Amway pyramid scheme presentation where they tell you to wear a suit.

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brownsugar:

Give me Thurman vs any good welter like Brook or Porter (add Mayweather's name to the list)

I also hope Charlo and Andrade can be made or any permutation of Charlo Andrade and Canelo.

Golovkin vs either Quillin or Korobov.

Pacq vs Broner or Mattysse at 140.

Degale vs Froch ...will it happen? I favor Degale.

Mares, Cruz, Quigg or Frampton vs Rigo

Roman Gonzalez or Mickey Garcia vs anybody.

Fury vs Wilder.

Mansour vs Briggs

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brownsugar:

Wise move by Hayman who understands that getting fighters into the ring is the first step in grooming talent and building relationships. The exposure alone is invaluable.

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The Shadow:

"It wasn't the best boxing but it sure was interesting.

Did the guy he fight take a dive? Maybe but who cares it was fun to see the old timer try some slick tricks in there. At 62 years old it makes me want to make some phone calls and fight a young tomato can."


I saw dude in his media workout. I thought he looked good and he's quite the tricky slickster.

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Froggy:

"That picture might be the reason why he wants nobody to see him."



Ha, ha, ha, good one !

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deepwater2:

"Is that really a picture of tsAH ? I was starting to think that nobody has ever even seen the guy !"

That picture might be the reason why he wants nobody to see him.

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Kid Blast:

I could care less about the new TS ratings. What is your list? Estrada is on everyone's ;list but mine. WTF not sure where you are going with his but I'll defend mine and stand by it unless you can come up with a more compelling one. :)

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Froggy:

Is that really a picture of tsAH ? I was starting to think that nobody has ever even seen the guy !

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Radam G:

"Were you going to put up a video with this? Maybe I missed it? I do a lot of isometric exercises and gladly look to add some more to my repertoire.

I wish I knew years ago about training what I know about it now. I once got in shape by doing roadwork (which, I believe, is still irreplaceable), jumping rope, hitting the heavy bag and speed bag, by doing situps and sparring. Now, I train my guys with an array of exercises, focusing, of course, on aerobic training. I want my guys to be tireless.

Is there a video which accompanies your in-depth description and analysis?

-Randy G."


The mistake is that lot of people keep missing the water session of training. We are 65 percent water so training in it gives us a better condition as running in sun rays and moon and star do. Holla!

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