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stormcentre:

I'm not buying.

Lomanchenko really displayed all the skills I knew he had (against a marginally slower guy that Gary Russell would beat also).

But, in my opinion, Floyd is way too much for him right now - even in just power alone.

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rdv_27:

I'd love to see Mikey Garcia vs Loma.

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stormcentre:

"Great matchup, just for the fact Danny G sits in that pocket and fights, meaning we will get some great exchanges. Pac by stoppage or UD

Put up a decent undercard and we have a legit PPV"


Yes good point about Garcia's style.

He fights and doesn't (usually) give up.

Pure Philly.

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amayseng:

Great matchup, just for the fact Danny G sits in that pocket and fights, meaning we will get some great exchanges. Pac by stoppage or UD

Put up a decent undercard and we have a legit PPV

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Radam G:

"Oh yes, just the pre-fight intercourse between Roach and Angel would make the fight worth it.

All things considered, and save for a lucky punch, Pac should run over Danny though.

Too much speed, power and experience."


It will be more intense between PacMommy D and Papa Angel. Holla!

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stormcentre:

Oh yes, just the pre-fight intercourse between Roach and Angel would make the fight worth it.

All things considered, and save for a lucky punch, Pac should run over Danny though.

Too much speed, power and experience.

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brownsugar:

"Thoughts?"





Garcia walks around at 165.

He has extreme difficulty trying to make 140,and can no longer safely make the weight.

I think if they fight at a catch weight his amateur experience would allow him to put forth a competitive but losing effort in an entertaining fight.

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deepwater2:

I like it. If PAC is going to 140 he might as well beat the champion at the weight. Barclays might get it. I think PAC boxes his ears off. Angel Garcia might pop a vein in his neck yelling at Freddie Roach.
Will tsAH allow it? Danny has a cushy gig fighting guys like Salka.

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brownsugar:

Just say no to "Survivalist Boxing",.... Lol.

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brownsugar:

Lol... Its just boxing and Algieri is merely a novice who got "N Too Deep".
Algieri doesn't deserve my disparaging comments just for hyping the fight with his bodacious promises or wasting his energy bouncing around the ring like an aerobic instructor trying to imitate a boxer of for using the only resource at his disposal.

The technique i call " survival boxing ", which entails running ..... as fast as he could in the opposite direction of Manny Pacquioa ......in an effort to keep his head attached to his shoulders.

And there is no discrace getting bounced off the canvas reapeatedly while fleeing in full flight from the very personification of boxing version of The Boogey Man.

Algieri should feel thankful for his opportunity. If matched correctly he can still spoil a few top ten welters who can't cut the ring or may not feel inclined to running a marathon.

The fight was hard to watch at times but thankfully the two preceding prelims delivered the goods. And Algieri escaped none the worse for wear.

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BFF:

F all that noise. C-al was way too arrogant and confident during prefight. to me he still sounded as if he didnt want admit manny is in a complete different class and is an animal by saying its only the exerience level.... and c-al was in complete survival mode the whole fight, he survived by riding his bike the whole night, his game plan was out the window once he got hit. anyways this cocky clown with a college degree just got taken to school by a true master boxer from professor pacman who holds a doctorates degree in the sweet science!

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stormcentre:

Fair comments, RG and D2.

Could say some things about the appropriateness and/or humour of Tim Lane's comments and kickboxing attire, but will refrain - it's not easy holding back.

Also, I think Berto and Lara summed it up quite nicely too.

Big, big task to ask of Algieri, even if he had been 12 rounds before.

Arum must be thinking . . . ."over to you now Floyd, unless of course you're preoccupied with other things".

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brownsugar:

"It's just become the hot matchup of next year.



The great thing is, it's almost certain to happen.



I've got Loma. Another East Euro legend. :cool:"




By the 3rd round Lomo had his opponent conditioned and trained to follow him while absorbing abuse.... it was if the man was hypnotised....Lomo is very selective about using his power shots and is the first European I've seen who can use lateral movement as well as he does.



He was worth watching... I look forward to seeing more.



However Lomo is a big feather weight.... Don't count on seeing him matched up with Rigo any time soon.

Lomo said Rigo is too small( meaning he's not willing to boil down to the catch weight of 124-125lb required by Rigo to make the fight ). This fight is simply not happening.



Lomo is easily 20 lbs bigger than Rigo which might as well be the proportional equivalent of 50lbs for men their size. Rigo is a natural Bantamweight.



In related news Walters has recently said he's not going to defend his title against a fighter with only 3 pro fights.

Walters says Lomo has nothing to offer and everything to gain.



Normally I would write this comment off as a "duck" or blatant cowardice by team Walters.... But when you hear Walters explain it... you can see his motivations are not in the slightest way associated with fear.



In fact Lomo has echoed similar reservations about Walters and has not publically called him out however both Walters and Lomo have acknowledged their day of reckoning is coming and both fighters vow to be ready on that date with destiny.



In the meantime KO artist and fellow champ Gonzalez is the litmus test both Lomo and Walters want to be tested by.



I fear we will have to be patient for the next most interesting fight in boxing.



Its good to know there will be superhuman fighters like Lomo and GGG around to watch as we count down the days of extraordinary fighters like Floyd and Paq, .....who will soon be fading into the history books as we embrace the future.

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Radam G:

"Fire coach Lane. He is a kick boxer . He doesn't train the finer arts of the sweet science. Chris's stance was too far apart like a kick boxer. He needs to sit down on his punches at some point.
Lane was yelling at the WBO president about Roach's hand wrapping. Not cool.
Team Algieri needs to make an executive decision and fire Lane or demote him to training partner.
Kevin Rooney jr may as we'll ask his dad to train him or maybe get Joey Gamache on board. The kid can have a handful of fights at 140 but he needs a master boxing coach to teach him ,not a coach that just keeps yelling master boxer."


Hehehehe! Ditto DAT! Holla!

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The Good Doctor:

Commish don't go hogging all the crow. Save a helping or three for me.

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deepwater2:

Fire coach Lane. He is a kick boxer . He doesn't train the finer arts of the sweet science. Chris's stance was too far apart like a kick boxer. He needs to sit down on his punches at some point.

Lane was yelling at the WBO president about Roach's hand wrapping. Not cool.

Team Algieri needs to make an executive decision and fire Lane or demote him to training partner.

Kevin Rooney jr may as we'll ask his dad to train him or maybe get Joey Gamache on board. The kid can have a handful of fights at 140 but he needs a master boxing coach to teach him ,not a coach that just keeps yelling master boxer.

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Radam G:

"Mismatch. Props to all the guys who called it.

Manny just schools. He'll do the same to young gun Danny 'Swift' next. If Jnr dares.

I reckon old Radam's doing some epic partying right now and neglecting many of his good habits. Ha and Holla!"


Never do I neglect good nutrition habits nowadays. And I don't drink anymore.

If I could leave da dames, damsels and dolls alone, I would be inhuman. That is GOD's fault for all these eye candy gals.

My darn wondering eyes are all over the place. And my pants don't have enough space. And my Johnson just have to have a XX-chromosome taste. Hehe! Holla!

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Yogo:

Mismatch. Props to all the guys who called it.

Manny just schools. He'll do the same to young gun Danny 'Swift' next. If Jnr dares.

I reckon old Radam's doing some epic partying right now and neglecting many of his good habits. Ha and Holla!

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Radam G:

Holla at this link: http://boxingvideo.org/manny-pacquiao-vs-chris-algieri-fight-replay/. Holla!

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Yogo:

It's just become the hot matchup of next year.

The great thing is, it's almost certain to happen.

I've got Loma. Another East Euro legend. :cool:

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Froggy:

So Pacquiao looked pretty good, I think this means everybody but Floyd has renewed interest in them getting together ?

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Kid Blast:

No. No props. He was rabbited. No props for that. Running is not what pro boxing is all about. And he also was slaughtered.

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Radam G:

For a biker -- motorcycle biker -- C-Al got hit too much with big, smashing-torpedo shots. That is a bad sign and a quick career ender.

In two scraps, he has fought the equivalent of about 12 smash-mouthed scraps.

"Don't sweat the technique" my arse. Change your style and those lyrics.

Dude is listening to the wrong types of beats. This game plays for keeps.

If F- Al -- I mean C-Al -- wants to enjoy his high earning and his peeps, he needs to get rid of the Tim Lane-type of creeps.

The next thing that Tim Lane might tell anyone who will listen, is that he is really Little Bo Peep, and she has lost her pink and purple sheep. And they are under your bed sheet. And in, some uglies might creep.

That kissing cousin of Lois Lane has been lain back and sipping too much kyptonite gin and juice. Holla!

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Skibbz:

I keep saying Deep more to you! Those guys were simply sticking their money in the air willing to let fate decide.. The universe won't always be on your side and no magic stones will help your cause if the actuality of reality is against you.

Commish do you think he will be hiring Tim Lane for his next fight or will he seek out a new trainer? He has a nice bonus to play with right now and a good trainer who knows what prizefighting is about might be able to help him work his way towards a title shot.. Keep the Algieri show rollin'!

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Skibbz:

Like I've been saying he tries to survive. In the greatest of circumstances a back peddling jab style will win you a club amateur fight. But in the pro's running away behind a jab is simply not what's required. You've got to fight and beat your opponent not keep him at bay which is the style Algieri takes. He understands it that keeping yuro pponent at bay is how to win but it's simply not that way, I really hope we don't see him on prime time slots unless he learns how to slug just a little, a 12 round slugfest with Ruslan and I would be willing to purchase PPV's. Let's go champ.

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Skibbz:

"V-Lo looked more like Manny Pacquiao last night than Manny did himself. Power. Blazing hand speed. Throws from all angles. Moves around the ring like a phantom.



I am in awe. He gets better with every pro fight. He literally beat Piriyapinyo one-handed. One of the most complete fighters I've seen in a long time. Everyone take notice: there is a beast at 126.



I'll take V-Lo against Walters at any odds. It's my top fight of 2015."




He looked more like roy jones JR. He's been imitating him since the euros as an amateur. He smashed up a tough thai and he certainly looked good but isn't it time he took towards a big name? The buzz has heard small noises about a stand out amateur on the undercards but hasn't had anything real to say other than him being taught a lesson by a veteran pro.



If I was him I'd be going to scalp a belt holder and start pulling exclamation marks near mine to remind everyone of the talent that's around. He's got to try cement something large in 2015, it can't be far the plan anyway since he took a world title fight in his second time in the ring as a pro, he's got to be thinking of a stand out season to match the hype and he's got to make it happen.



If he can square off against Walter and win, he'll show us the heart and desire we've wanted to see, if he gets in a fight fought with power and instinct then we'll see the best of him against a train wrecking powerhouse who'll punch the bark off trees... and who knows he might have the skill to catch the powerful Walters with a shot that sends him and his senses into absolute treacle.



That said, I'll still go with Walters, the hunger and the power is what I think is important to survive at the top, and Walter's exhibits both in abundance.

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Pazuzu:



Max: "Was there an idea that after four rounds something changes?"

"Yep."

"What was gonna change?"

"I'll tell you after," Lane said. "He's going to put him to sleep here in a few minutes. I'm going to let him go, I'm gonna let him go in one more round I got him in the cage right now. Time to unlock the cage," he said.

The analyst pressed, "The plan is to have Algieri knock Pacquiao out?"

"Yes. But I still got him in the cage. He listens to me very well, I'm gonna let him lose in a couple rounds."

"Round ten?"

"Round ten or eleven."

And then fate and irony balled up their fists and unleashed a corker.

"



This exchange, immediately punctuated by the best punch of the fight, was the evening's highlight. Look out Tim Lane, instant karma's gonna get you.

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SouthPaul:

I totally agree with you on Cotto, Mayweather 2. For the middleweight title ...why wasn't this considered specially since Cotto is a free agent? But I'm not so sure about failing miserably. I think he has the midas touch and most anything he does will draw respectable numbers.

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Pazuzu:

"Man that kid was on his bike. He must have racked up 19 miles back peddling in 36 mintues"



Algieri was on his bike from the first round and never got off. If he's going to fight like that, he'll have more success in the Tour de France.



I expected Manny to win by UD, but I thought Algieri would have at least tried to make a fight out of it, at least after Tim Lane "let him out of his cage." Hard to say what'll be next for Algieri. He should fire Tim Lane and see if an actual boxing coach will pick him up. He has the physical skills and technique to have some success in the sport, though probably never at the most elite levels. Otherwise, it's back to ESPN and club fights.

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SouthPaul:

I think a Mayweather vs PAC fight would be similar to what we saw last night. It would be somewhat of a snoozer at a very high cost to the fans. I hope it never happens.

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