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SouthPawFlo:

18yrs & better than ever right now, when everybody from his generation has either retired, died, or is a shell of themselves he's still at the top of the game....





People underestimate how smart the man is in the ring, he pretty much enters every fight as the older man, the smaller man, or the one with the least punching power, and the most boxing miles on the odometer but his Conditioning & Ring IQ picks up where his physical gifts don't...

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deepwater2:

Switch the 1 and 2 and you have a deal.

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deepwater2:

Bob F is one of the all time greats. A mw champ, Light heavy champ and heavy champ. I have him right behind two of my favorites Mickey Walker and Harry Greb. These lil guys were knocking down heavyweights!

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ArneK.:

If you're giving me plus-190, then I'll take the field; I think there's value there. Dino and the Commish have inspired me to concoct another list: The Top 10 greatest cruiserweights of all time before the division was invented. For sure, Bob Fitzsimmons will be on it.

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deepwater2:

Kathy Duva speaking the truth. Boxing will be here long after Floyd and Manny are gone and hopefully we will be on this website talking about the new crop. By the way didn't Mayweather retire for a few years and no one really cared? Cheers to the new guys coming up, can't wait for the heavyweight scene to open up. Floyd better stop saying he won't do business with a promoter and fight already or just move and get out of the way because time is priceless.

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The Shadow:

"RICHARD SCHAEFER, CEO GOLDEN BOY PROMOTIONS

"Floyd Mayweather did it again. He picked the most dangerous opponent he could have.



Am I in crazy town???

most dangerous? Pac, GGG, SM, Pwill, margarito, prime cotto, prime shane, Vernon,





WOW are they blowing smoke up everyone's ***





And why the hell is J'leon talking? what has he ever done? He is not worthy of a quote.





this promotion is looking desperate."




Lol that was funny, no he's not worthy of quotes.



To be fair, none of those guys were available. GGG is exclusive to HBO and so is Sergio Martinez. GGG has bigger fish to fry, anyway, literally speaking.



I actually remember when Williams was in a position to inch closer to that shot but he messed around and got beat by Carlos Quintana. By the time he had avenged that loss, the ship had sailed. Floyd was on to PPV.



Like Lou DiBella says, sometimes guys just don't intersect. Maidana was the most dangerous of the ones who were available in his weight class.



Floyd is just kinda too polished for the rest of those dudes.



Interesting with Vernon, was there talk of them fighting at some point? Maybe I'm wrong but I remember Floyd fighting at lightweight during the time Vernon was beating Shane and getting beat up by Mayorga.



Would've been an interesting fight at 147!

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deepwater2:

"This card looks better than the PPV card that follows it the next weekend.



Action and competitive wise that is.





I mean really, Broner vs Molina???"




I agree for the most part. Collazo vs khan might be the most competitive.Lets check the bookies.

Thurman 16-1 fav.

Lucas 15-1 fav.

jeez

Mayweather 12-1 fav

Boner 30-1 fav.

Khan 3-1 fav.

The moral of the story is all these fights are non competitive except the Khan even though 3-1 isnt even.

At least with Thurman and Lucas they will probably put their opponents unconscious.

Showtime boxing, the home of house fighters having an advantage.

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amayseng:

RICHARD SCHAEFER, CEO GOLDEN BOY PROMOTIONS
"Floyd Mayweather did it again. He picked the most dangerous opponent he could have.

Am I in crazy town???
most dangerous? Pac, GGG, SM, Pwill, margarito, prime cotto, prime shane, Vernon,


WOW are they blowing smoke up everyone's ***


And why the hell is J'leon talking? what has he ever done? He is not worthy of a quote.


this promotion is looking desperate.

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amayseng:

This card looks better than the PPV card that follows it the next weekend.

Action and competitive wise that is.


I mean really, Broner vs Molina???

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amayseng:

"C'mon Commissioner you reckon this is competitive??? At least you envision no way for Maidana to do the full job because I don't either, I don't think anyone truly does.

He's going to get disheartened when he see's Floyd is no Broner. Floyd will attack early with fast, crisp shots from different angles and ranges. When Maidana, as he has been taught in prep, fires one or two in retaliation they'll catch the wind and nothing else. Repeat this over the course of 8 rounds and you'll have a tired slugger, with a supreme athlete now looking to pick some shots and drop him. A Floyd KO is very plausible with Maidana disheartened from not even finding the door to put his foot in.



On another note, Floyd has recently been saying he feels his recognition will come after he leaves the sport. I don't fail to recognise his incredible achievements, but I fail to acknowledge his greatness as a fighter if he does not make the best fights out there. Fighters fight to be called the best ever, and the best have to fight eachother..


@Roast I think one reason why people praise Hopkins and not Mayweather for that style is because of the difference in attitude outside of the ring. Floyd does not portray the most likeable personality."


People like and respect Hopkins because he has fought the best challenges out there where Floyd has ducked Pac, SM, a prime Cotto, Margarito, Mosley and a prime odlh

hopkins is fighting young champions at an old age and even a prime age fought Trinidad and a prime ODLH,
Roy jones among many many others.

plus Floyd is a prick and has no personality

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oubobcat:

"While it's true that $$$May has not fought anybody with Maidana's style, the only guy Maidana has fought who remotely resembles $$$May in style is $$$May-wannabe, Adrien Broner. Maidana will quickly find out that his pressure tactics, while they worked on Broner, will be virtually useless against $$$May.

The fight will be competitive and interesting. But as I sit here writing this 10 days before the opening bell, I cannot envision Maidana pulling out a victory. Not by KO, not by TKO, not by decision.

-Randy G."


I do find this fight interesting. Interesting in that Maidana has real power and is an improved overall boxer since joining up with Robert Garcia. What if Maidana can find a way, particularly early, to land a big shot and hurt Mayweather. How will Mayweather take the punch and react afterward?

This is why I find the fight interesting. But like the commish states, it is very difficult at the moment to envision Maidana in fact pulling out this victory. Mayweather is so fast and ring resourceful (for example rarely gets hit clean), it does seem like a very uphill task for Maidana.

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ultimoshogun:

As much as I'd love to see Maidana repeat his performance against Broner and really challenge Floyd, I just don't see it happening. Maidana's offense will be assimilated by Mayweather in one round..from then on I'm expecting a shutout.

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Radam G:

The Hurricane was an innocence man wrongly convicted. His abili was air tight. I'm with the song about him by the great musicman that song his arse off about it. Holla!

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Radam G:

"It's one thing to dance around your opponents inside the ring, but I will never accept it if it's done outside of the ring. Whether or not people have done it in the past makes it no better or right for someone to do it in the present or future.

We have one voice, and one mind so there's not much we can do to change the views of the many who live in our era unless we get in the limelight. But for the billions that follow us in future generations, opportunities are there to show them a different path. When you are in a position to do that and you simply do not it's not agreeable with me.

At the end of the day, RG until he fights the one or two other guys close to or on par with him... I won't offer him recognition as the best ever. But you're right, what does that matter to him? When I was a sportsman, it didn't matter to me who thought what of me, so long as I knew in myself that I was the best and I acted accordingly. My problem is that Floyd does the first part... but not the latter."


I read you loud and clear. But there will always be Floyds, Jacks, Joes and a lot hoes. Hehehe! And they ain't gonna get down never and no how with danger to comfort fans or critics. Holla!

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Skibbz:

"Seldom in the history of boxing have the "best ever" fought the truthfully other best ever of his era. Lil' Floyd is among many greats in doing what he is doing. The one that quickly keep coming to my mind is the late, great Sugar Ray Robinson. He didn't step up and fight the best around. But he's often called the greatest pug to ever live by many earwitnesses and film eyewitnesses.

No matter how you shake it or make it, Lil' Floyd is going down in the annals of boxing as one of the greatest ever. He is a prizefighter, not pridefighter, fanfighter or the likes. Making fans and critics happy is the last thing he wants to do on his list of things to do just above being sick or dead. Holla!"


It's one thing to dance around your opponents inside the ring, but I will never accept it if it's done outside of the ring. Whether or not people have done it in the past makes it no better or right for someone to do it in the present or future.

We have one voice, and one mind so there's not much we can do to change the views of the many who live in our era unless we get in the limelight. But for the billions that follow us in future generations, opportunities are there to show them a different path. When you are in a position to do that and you simply do not it's not agreeable with me.

At the end of the day, RG until he fights the one or two other guys close to or on par with him... I won't offer him recognition as the best ever. But you're right, what does that matter to him? When I was a sportsman, it didn't matter to me who thought what of me, so long as I knew in myself that I was the best and I acted accordingly. My problem is that Floyd does the first part... but not the latter.

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Radam G:

"The Good Doctor, you are so right about Holmes' jab. Let me take it a few more steps. That jab was the best in heavyweight history. Yes, the BEST. It had speed and awesome power.

Larry also had a champion's set of cojones. How manytimes was he dropped/rocked by bombs, and came fighting back? The right by Renaldo Snipes. The uppercut by Mike Weaver. The special rounds against Tim Witherspoon and Ken Norton.

Yet, because of one moment, one dumb moment when he put his mouth into gear before engaging his brain, so many fans turned away from him forever.

You may not love the guy, but he truly is sorry for what he said.

And, like it or not, he was among history's greatest heavyweight champions.

-Randy G."


His best comeback was the night that he got monster blasted down by Earnie Shaver. I still don't know how he got up, but for the fact that he had/has double champion cojones.

His biggest flaw was that he didn't move his big-@$$ cranium. For a great heavyweight champion, he is aight. But boxing journalist Murray is half right about who he fought. Holla!

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Radam G:

"Yet he's the best ever and refuses to fight those other champions around him. 18 years and we haven't seen the best of him... but wait a short while and we will see the last of him.. For his legacy to still live on he needs to fight those other champions, so he isn't remembered for making the most $, but can truly be acknowledged as the best ever."

Seldom in the history of boxing have the "best ever" fought the truthfully other best ever of his era. Lil' Floyd is among many greats in doing what he is doing. The one that quickly keep coming to my mind is the late, great Sugar Ray Robinson. He didn't step up and fight the best around. But he's often called the greatest pug to ever live by many earwitnesses and film eyewitnesses.

No matter how you shake it or make it, Lil' Floyd is going down in the annals of boxing as one of the greatest ever. He is a prizefighter, not pridefighter, fanfighter or the likes. Making fans and critics happy is the last thing he wants to do on his list of things to do just above being sick or dead. Holla!

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Skibbz:

Yet he's the best ever and refuses to fight those other champions around him. 18 years and we haven't seen the best of him... but wait a short while and we will see the last of him.. For his legacy to still live on he needs to fight those other champions, so he isn't remembered for making the most $, but can truly be acknowledged as the best ever.

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Skibbz:

"While it's true that $$$May has not fought anybody with Maidana's style, the only guy Maidana has fought who remotely resembles $$$May in style is $$$May-wannabe, Adrien Broner. Maidana will quickly find out that his pressure tactics, while they worked on Broner, will be virtually useless against $$$May.

The fight will be competitive and interesting. But as I sit here writing this 10 days before the opening bell, I cannot envision Maidana pulling out a victory. Not by KO, not by TKO, not by decision.

-Randy G."


C'mon Commissioner you reckon this is competitive??? At least you envision no way for Maidana to do the full job because I don't either, I don't think anyone truly does.

He's going to get disheartened when he see's Floyd is no Broner. Floyd will attack early with fast, crisp shots from different angles and ranges. When Maidana, as he has been taught in prep, fires one or two in retaliation they'll catch the wind and nothing else. Repeat this over the course of 8 rounds and you'll have a tired slugger, with a supreme athlete now looking to pick some shots and drop him. A Floyd KO is very plausible with Maidana disheartened from not even finding the door to put his foot in.



On another note, Floyd has recently been saying he feels his recognition will come after he leaves the sport. I don't fail to recognise his incredible achievements, but I fail to acknowledge his greatness as a fighter if he does not make the best fights out there. Fighters fight to be called the best ever, and the best have to fight eachother..


@Roast I think one reason why people praise Hopkins and not Mayweather for that style is because of the difference in attitude outside of the ring. Floyd does not portray the most likeable personality.

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The Commish:

The Good Doctor, you are so right about Holmes' jab. Let me take it a few more steps. That jab was the best in heavyweight history. Yes, the BEST. It had speed and awesome power.

Larry also had a champion's set of cojones. How manytimes was he dropped/rocked by bombs, and came fighting back? The right by Renaldo Snipes. The uppercut by Mike Weaver. The special rounds against Tim Witherspoon and Ken Norton.

Yet, because of one moment, one dumb moment when he put his mouth into gear before engaging his brain, so many fans turned away from him forever.

You may not love the guy, but he truly is sorry for what he said.

And, like it or not, he was among history's greatest heavyweight champions.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Exactly, Deep.

After his last fight--against Alexander Povetkin--in which Klit initiated the astounding amount of 171 clinches in 12 rounds, I knew it was time to bring the curtain down on the younger Klitschko, who is a huge draw in Germany and a huge bore to American fans. He is so much of a bore that I am surprised ESPN is even bothering to show what should be a blowout for Wlad.

I guess that's because they are following this fight two weeks later with what should be a very interesting battle between Bermane Stiverne v Cris Arreola for the vacant WBC Heavyweight Championship. The winner will then make his first defense later this year against Big D--Deontay Wilder.

It was just Easter. With the upcoming Stiverne-Arreola fight and with Bryant Jennings v Mike Perez coming up, boxing is now celebrating its own version of Easter--the heavyweight division coming back from the dead.

-Randy G.

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ultimoshogun:

I was a big MMA follower for several years. Not so much UFC, but the Japanese promotion, PRIDE FC. To me that was the better brand of MMA, and if PRIDE was still around I'd most likely still be following the sport. It will be interesting to see where MMA is ten years from now...I check out Bloody Elbow from time tot time and lately it seems like UFC is losing steam. Like amayseng says, they haven't been producing new stars and what used to be fighters who brought their own unique styles to the table has become the same cookie cutter style since they have to cross train every discipline nowadays. The fans are also tired of Dana White putting on mediocre PPV's and selling it as "the most stacked card ever." Last weeks free event on FOX was their lowest rating to date. I won't be surprised if Zuffa sells the UFC in a few years.

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The Commish:

Ah, Bernie's back!

-Randy G.

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dino da vinci:

They moved our start time, so I'll make my point now.

I live in Las Vegas, and happen to attend very few fights.

I hate to fly. If I landed in Beirut I would be looking for reasons to stay as so not to have to get back on a plane.

Me: Look, it's not so bad! (As a projectile whistles by my head).

But if they announced Rocky Marciano was fighting Evander Holyfield on a distant planet, and I secured a ticket with just enough time to get there, I'd let a drunk cabby with an eye patch rush me to SpaceX, put me on an intergalactic flying apparati that was heavily duct taped, and tell'em 'mush!'

One of boxing's perfect match-ups. Would the Rock win them all? Of course not. But if they fought every Tuesday he would win more than his share.

Nowhere did it say he had to have been a former Cruiserweight champ. Like people say Burley was arguably the best ever even though he never fought for a title, or Ezzard Charles was the finest Lt-Heavy ever even though he never won that particular crown, I'll take Marciano and give you the field at 190.

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oubobcat:

I remember very vividly how I get hooked on boxing.

When I was a kid, indoor soccer (I know, follow the story) was very big in Cleveland. I was a huge fan of the Cleveland Force and they used to play at the old Richfield Coliseum. My dad would take me to games there but it was quite a drive so he liked to go when they ran some sort of promotion. Well in January 1988, they were running a promotion showing the Tyson-Holmes fight after the game. My dad figured he could make a night of it and he was getting a bargain getting to watch the fight as well so took us kids out to the game that Saturday night.

The Richfield Coliseum drew a good crowd for these soccer games but was absolutely packed for this promotion. I honestly don't remember much of the soccer game. But as a kid was amazed at the atmosphere in the arena when the fight was getting ready to begin. I watched and cheered along with everyone else. I still remember the fight like it was yesterday. I was hooked at that moment and when I got home that night wanted to watch more boxing (could have cared less who was fighting). Of course, there wasn't any on at that time but afterwards I began watching any and all boxing that I could.

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Bernie Campbell:

Lemieux? top Stevenson? Whua? Absoluteley Ludicrous! No wonder Watson appeared to be indulging in the sauce the other night! MFs eyes were like red neon lghts! looked like too much no doze!

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The Shadow:

"Dino started writing his response on the iPad with 3% life left, went to 2%, evidently didn't like what I was writing and quit taking my response with it. So, I 'll reply here, and get back with my thoughts in the evening.

RM, 49-0

Without a doubt."


Dino, I'm curious...

You're obviously a boxing historian/encyclopedia. What/when/how/why exactly did you get hooked?

Actually, I'd like to know what got the rest of you guys hooked as well.

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The Good Doctor:

"Larry will always be great in my book. One of the best jabs I have ever seen. It was not cool to bad mouth The Rock but hey these things happen. Larry is a great businessman that owns a big part of pennsylvania and never hit a grandma in a mugging and never beat down a wife. His jumping over a car to get to Burbick will always put a smile on my face."

Larry Holmes was one of the few fighters that had a jab that was more than a punch to work off of. Larry could snap that jab off your face and daze you. I think that is one of the most disrespected parts of him.

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dino da vinci:

Dino started writing his response on the iPad with 3% life left, went to 2%, evidently didn't like what I was writing and quit taking my response with it. So, I 'll reply here, and get back with my thoughts in the evening.

RM, 49-0

Without a doubt.

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dino da vinci:

"While it's true that $$$May has not fought anybody with Maidana's style, the only guy Maidana has fought who remotely resembles $$$May in style is $$$May-wannabe, Adrien Broner. Maidana will quickly find out that his pressure tactics, while they worked on Broner, will be virtually useless against $$$May.

The fight will be competitive and interesting. But as I sit here writing this 10 days before the opening bell, I cannot envision Maidana pulling out a victory. Not by KO, not by TKO, not by decision.

-Randy G."


Interesting like the Ghost and Canelo were interesting?

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HBO LATINO BOXING DOUBLEHEADER ANNOUNCED FOR MAY 31 Fortuna v. Rodriguez, Rosa v. Del Valle at The New Tropicana Resort in Las Vegas NEW YORK, N Y (April 21, 2014) - On Saturday, May 31, boxing returns to The New Tropicana resort in Las Vegas with an exciting doubleheader featuring Javier "El Abejon" Fortuna taking on Juan Antonio Rodriguez and Luis Rosa against Luis "Orlandito" Del Valle. Tickets start at just $37 for the event, which will take place in the Tropicana Pavilion. The doubleheader will be televised live on HBO Latino at 12...

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