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Chino fought the wrong fight thanks to wrong decisions.
Mayweather fought the best fight he could, and that's the reality of who he is now. It's tough to look good against a guy like Chino if you fight in Floyd's style, at Floyd's age.
Much like RJJr, Floyd's style depends hugely on reflexes and speed. Once that's gone, all you've got is faded athleticism and a high ring IQ. Floyd lacks even power. For that reason, it's tough to look good against a brawling mauler, but not against a flat footed boxer just a year ago (Canelo).
So long as Floyd chooses the right opponent next May, he's look as good as good for 12 as he did in the 2nd.
I for one think it's best to wash our hands of the whole stinking fight.
Indeed I had GreyMan, I am looking forward to Hopkins and kovalev, a potential FOTY and if hopkins wins then he deserves the Fighter of the Year in my opinion. If Floyd wins the accolade again then ($$$$=FOTY).Reply
I see Rosado beaten to a pulp and out before the 8th. It will be a relatively slow start but once the kitchen door opens it will get pretty hot in there. Should be a great fight and prelude to the main event that we are so eagerly anticipating.Reply
A fantastic stylistic match up. As Oubobcat says, it doesn't always take the most skilled guys to make the best fights, but the most well matched styles.
Kirkland is a dangerous guy for anyone with his relentless come-to-kill attitude and abundance of power, and always offers excitement with his less than consistent defence. Would have loved to see him in with Canelo, I think that would have been a great fight for the red head, but this offers just as much excitement.
Rosado too, always comes looking for a fight, and is resilient enough to carry this one down the stretch and see it through to a win I think.
What a card this is! Best of the year or what?
"That's the thing. Who the hell knows? It seems like a pretty drastic thing to do but I guess the attacker figured he needed an equalizer.
But does sure look like something happened on the DL."
Can you explain to me your interest in gossiping about the situation? This is a boxing forum take the gossip to your local woman's club or to random topics.
You turn your nose at potentially the biggest boxing bout in history because you believe it is over ripe. Well they may no longer be spring chickens or men in their prime but a fight between to veterans with such needle is one that I would never turn down.
How could a true fan possibly decline such an event, it defies reason. Whilst they are still active we should still hold hope, after that we can steel ourselves to the disappointment, but not sooner.
If floyd gets in the ring with a young operator on the cusp of a title fight he will lose. If Marcos Maidana can land the jab then we must believe better athletes with more whiplike jabs will find the target too.
I think the slow Philly hype job will get his shot at Floyd maybe in May, that will be one great trash talking PPV you can buy for $75 or more. They could even hit the road and head to Jerry Springer if that show still runs on air...
Beat the hype job, then take on Chris Algieri and beat him too. I think Commissioner made a great point on Leo Santa Cruz saying that if he can fire 100+ shots at a Roman but against a Rigondeaux he will find it difficult to shoot 20 in one round. I am sure he echoes these same thoughts in a potential Floyd vs Algieri fight.
Here's to holla'ing another 9000 our way. Congrats Radam!Reply
Not that I'd want to see the now. Both guys well past their respective primes- it would be a mockery of itself.Reply
I'm with Amayseng on this one. I was sceptical to the extreme before Chino II, but after the fight I'm certain he'll never fight Pac.
Floyd's attitude was one of a man who has had more than enough. He did not want to be in that ring, whether it had been Chino, Khan or Pac facing him would have made little difference- Floyd just doesn't want to fight any more. As soon as the bell for the 12th rang, Floyd was thinking 'job done' and proceeded to flee danger, with his mind firmly fixed on that $38 million.
Was that his attitude in the 12th when he fought De La Hoya? No, because back then he cared about his future in the ring- he wanted to win in style, give a show to the fans and see out his personal rivalry with Oscar. He wanted to get bigger, gain new fans and earn more praise. In that round, Floyd fought to the finish.
Floyd doesn't think like that now- he's strictly doing a job. You don't fight like that if you want to expand your fan base, or even if you want to preserve it. He doesn't give two hoots about his own reputation or public perception any more, beyond what is necessary to promote the next fight.
He is a hungry promoter in the body of a reluctant fighter. A toxic mix.
Chin up Skibbz. Looks like you wrote this in the dark moments following the bore that was one of boxing's 'biggest events of the year'.
There will always be highs and lows in boxing, but for me there is hope in the future. There are plenty of young hungry boxers on the rise demanding a scrap with anyone that weighs anything close to them. The Cold War is apparently drawing to a close, and it's thawing could see stables of fighters meet each other en-mass for the first time in a long time.
Yes, money will dictate things to an extent for ever more. Fighters, as assets to capitalist promoters who care little for the show, and have naught but cold hard cash for souls, will always be exploited or protected to an extent according to their potential earning power, but there is hope on the not too distant horizon. Things are on the rise in the world of boxing.
For instance- Kovalev-Hopkins!
"If I'm not mistaken, Pacquiao does not have an exclusive contract with HBO. It's TR, and the two parties need to work that out because both fighters are bringing in less money."
Yes, he does, CC. In fact, HBO fronted the money on the signing bonus.
"Yep - I hear you.
Money May is by no means clean.
But Maidana was blatantly fouling in a way where he must have known he would be caught (by reply) and possibly DQd."
They are both dirty, Maidana is wild and ferocious he will be blatant when fouling.
Floyd is sneaky, slick, and quick; he's always going to be clandestine when being dirty. However the ref, Bayless in particular let him get away with it.
Geez imagine if Laurence Cole was the referee. Lol.
If I'm not mistaken, Pacquiao does not have an exclusive contract with HBO. It's TR, and the two parties need to work that out because both fighters are bringing in less money.Reply
Congratulations Radam! Keep up the great work!Reply
Great fight, I've grown to respect Rosado over the last year or so. He's a throwback fighter and he's willing to take the dangerous fights.Reply
"End of round three, right at the bell, Maidana lands a flush right. Floyd’s legs go stiff and jiggly, and he stumbles to his stool. A preview of a KO loss soon to come."
Maybe if Maidana was able to wear the gloves he wanted we would be talking about one of the biggest upsets in modern time.
"I agree that Floyd didn't look as sharp as usual on Offense, but his legs are still there and his Defense is still sharp...
He still landed 51% of his punches and his Right Hand Counters were Lazer-Like, so even on a "bad night" he's still pretty good..."
Actually, in the first half of the fight his legs did not look good. And then Maidana nails him with that right hand at the bell. However his legs looked sharp the second half of the fight. He was using them really well.
"The fact that he clinched so much and so often is telling in itself.
Pac would beat Mayweather up badly.
Floyd does such a good job of rolling landed punches he makes you think they barely missed when in fact they landed.
Look at Floyds face after this fight, it looks like he got jumped and I only recall Chino landing just a few punches on his mug....."
I know and Chino's looked a lot better, did Floyd mix up the gloves and wear the extra padded ones that he alotted to Chino originally? Or maybe he's growing a tolerance to the xylocaine lol.
End of round three, right at the bell, Maidana lands a flush right. Floyd’s legs go stiff and jiggly, and he stumbles to his stool. A preview of a KO loss soon to come.Reply
Did you notice how large Money May's top lip was swollen in that afterfight interview?
It is three or four times that size now. He is going to have to hang loose until the swelling goes down before his grill is repaired from Chino knocking out his tooth. Holla!
I love this scrap too.
I like Kirkland and B-Hop to win.
Good stuff, congratulations to all, and thanks.Reply
I agree that Floyd didn't look as sharp as usual on Offense, but his legs are still there and his Defense is still sharp...
He still landed 51% of his punches and his Right Hand Counters were Lazer-Like, so even on a "bad night" he's still pretty good...
Here goes the whole bout: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGSQigc3BYU. Holla!Reply
Sounds like KB went home with a woman who had a man who walked in on something and KB took a machete for it.
Never mess with another mans woman, married or not never cross that line fellas.
If all these lighter guys were klitscho's size they would whoop him. I will put Ward right back at the top once he comes back and wins. V Lomenchenko is about to take over the sport.Reply
Floyd is starting to look like he is declining athletically.
He got caught with a lot of shots from Chino that he should not of.
Having said that, Chino fought all wrong, did not pressure Floyd enough in the beginning.
He better be picky with who he fights next.
"Feeling so delinquent. I see a few fights here and there. Drove down to Temecula to watch Austin Trout at Pechanga not long ago. I will try to get my reluctant butt back on here. But at 75 bucks a PPV, I don't think I can keep current and remain an honest, boxing-watching citizen. I've also got a new girlfriend who might be the one. So glad that you all time greats are keeping this website alive."
Youtube to watch the fights, save some money like my cheap butt does..
good luck with the girl, sincerely.
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