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brownsugar:

"I would rather watch Canelo fight, he throws explosive combinations and is an exciting fighter, where as Floyd held Chino 25 times per round while bicycling and pot shotting to a victory to where he RAN the entire 12th round...



Who in the world wants to pay 75$ to watch Floyd do what he did last Saturday?



Who is left to fight for Floyd that would sell ppv's if it is not Pac?"




Canelo is signed with GB he has already stated that he wants dates close to the Mexican holidays (not necessarily on the same day but it could happen in a different venue like Texas).



Even if its within a month or two of the Floyd PPV event it will saturate the market enough to result In disappointing sales.

Floyd and Hayman will have to plan effectively to get a sure fire attraction.

Canelo is going to be aggressive about it and Oscar will oblige.



If the returns from Floyds recent fight results in a loss there won't even be another Floyd fight unless the opponent practically guarantees the demand.

Floyd wasn't being vague about his next fight for no reason while discussing his next ring return at the post fight conference.

The fight was good in my opinion but he didn't seem to be as vibrant as he normally is. I can understand those who were disappointed.... I watched it again this morning before clocking in.

He was sloppy in spots but made the action look easier and more routine this time

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oubobcat:

I don't think Groves will have too much trouble this Saturday. After being stopped (controversially) and knocked out, his people found a guy with a decent record (no wins over anyone of note) who cannot punch. Smart move...

I could see Groves getting Bika next. Bika is rugged but has started to look shopworn. He'll make it an ugly fight but its one that's very winnable for Groves. Then he'd move on to challenge someone, probably Dirrell, in 2016 and probably in US.

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thegreyman:

"I would rather watch Canelo fight, he throws explosive combinations and is an exciting fighter, where as Floyd held Chino 25 times per round while bicycling and pot shotting to a victory to where he RAN the entire 12th round...

Who in the world wants to pay 75$ to watch Floyd do what he did last Saturday?

Who is left to fight for Floyd that would sell ppv's if it is not Pac?"


He certainly needs a fight that will renew interest in him. An attention grabber.

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thegreyman:

"Who is out there that would make a good profit and an interesting fight?

Cotto for the mw title at 155lbs? no thanks

Garcia? I would be interested but ppv profit wise, it will fail.

GGG at mw for a title? Hell yes, a legit mw champion and a huge step up for Floyd would receive respect and a legit intrigue whether Floyd can pull it off.

He will not fight Pac, so to me GGG is the only credible fight to receive the money Showtime is looking to make."


If he went up to middleweight I think it'd be at least an interesting watch. Seeing how Floyd copes at 160- whether he can impose his style and skill on their size and power (two attributes he DEFINITELY lacks).

I'd watch Cotto, and I'd love too see GGG K him TFO!

Either that, or a move down to 140. He'd carry more power, and it could make for a much more interesting fight- maybe Provodnikov or Matthyse.

These are purely dreams though- he wont fight a challenging fighter at 147, let alone move divisions to fight a hard fight. That's the actuality of the reality.

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oubobcat:

1. Mayweather
2. Golovkin
3. Rigondeaux
4. Ward
5. Pacquiao
6. Bradley
7. W. Klitschko
8. Roman Gonzalez
9. Kovalev
10. Mikey Garcia

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Skibbz:

I will be there not far from the action to watch St GG get back in the ring. He's a smart young man and is working harder than ever to get back onto the biggest stages in boxing. Two knockout losses would have stopped many but the best continue to strive to achieve their dreams. From what I've seen and heard George has had a great camp with quality sparring so this should be a good display and reminder of his potential in this division.

Can't wait for this one.

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The Commish:

I am still very much of the believe this fight will happen... Maybe not this year, but it will happen by March.



-Randy G.

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oubobcat:

I just don't see Pacquiao and Mayweather happening. I guess anything is possible but if they couldn't get it done five years ago when everyone would have made a boat load of money its hard to envision the fight ever happening. Just too many obstacles to overcome...From tv issues, to promoter issues, to drug testing, to who gets paid how much, etc just does not seem feasible to occur. Ever...

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Froggy:

You are right about that SouthPawFlo, I have lost a few dollars betting with my heart instead of my head !

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the Roast:

@Dino, I would like to be Mod for the begging of November. I call it, make it so. That way I get the build up and aftermath of Hop-Kovalev. Also, I never got my third place moolah from when Ameyseng was Mod. Did you lose my info?

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amayseng:

"It's true. 2014 hasn't seen him match for value his huge price tag.

I hope Showtime force him into a better fight."


Who is out there that would make a good profit and an interesting fight?

Cotto for the mw title at 155lbs? no thanks

Garcia? I would be interested but ppv profit wise, it will fail.

GGG at mw for a title? Hell yes, a legit mw champion and a huge step up for Floyd would receive respect and a legit intrigue whether Floyd can pull it off.

He will not fight Pac, so to me GGG is the only credible fight to receive the money Showtime is looking to make.

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SouthPawFlo:

Sometimes as sports fans we base our opinions with our hearts and not our heads, I can personally say that I've been guilty of that many times before.



Ever fighter has flaws and certain things that give them trouble. Manny P is an excellent swarmer and throws tons of punches from a lot of different angles and his footwork is Stellar, but he's had trouble with Counter-Punchers with Great Timing, if you look at the Morale Fight he lost and the 4 Marquez fights you'll see evidence of that, Floyd just happens to be better at timing and counters than both Morales and Marquez...





Floyd on the other hand has had a history of getting caught by southpaws and he's not the busiest fighter so you can steal rounds against him by outworking him & constant pressure, and those are Things that Manny P can bring... Pac Man throwing 70-80 punches a round from all over the place can give Floyd problems...







I can see them fighting at this stage being a "pick Em" fight in my opinion, but to suggest that Manny Would KO Floyd after he went 24 Rounds with Timmy B and didn't KO him and Bradley is 10X easier to catch than Floyd or to Suggest that Floyd would Dominate Pac after seeing him Struggle with the Caveman Maidana is an opinion based on your heart and not your "Smarts!"

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thegreyman:

"Floyd looked good against Canelo, he was active, threw enough punches per round to keep interest and boxed the young kids ears off. However he looked his age against Chino in both bouts.

He is definitely chasing the money, and I can't blame him for that.

His next two fights he better pick a boxer like Canelo, not a mauller, he is too old for that style..


I think next up will be Danny Garcia, more of a boxer with good power, but not a guy who will fight on the inside and try to bully and rough Floyd up.

One thing is for certain, each passing PPV declines in profit more than the last one.

Showtime is losing money on "money' Mayweather."


It's true. 2014 hasn't seen him match for value his huge price tag.

I hope Showtime force him into a better fight.

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amayseng:

Floyd looked good against Canelo, he was active, threw enough punches per round to keep interest and boxed the young kids ears off. However he looked his age against Chino in both bouts.

He is definitely chasing the money, and I can't blame him for that.

His next two fights he better pick a boxer like Canelo, not a mauller, he is too old for that style..


I think next up will be Danny Garcia, more of a boxer with good power, but not a guy who will fight on the inside and try to bully and rough Floyd up.

One thing is for certain, each passing PPV declines in profit more than the last one.

Showtime is losing money on "money' Mayweather.

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thegreyman:

I'm with Deep on this one. The fight will be delayed and postponed until Deontay gets bored and takes a different fight. The Bermane will take a more straightforward defence, earning himself and King some money. King knows how to exploit a heavyweight champion for dosh, and I'm sure he knows the best was is not to rush him into a highly dangerous fight.

As a fight fan, I'm unfortunately used to not seeing the bouts I want to see.

One day though, The Bronze Bomber will be tested... One day

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amayseng:

I would rather watch Canelo fight, he throws explosive combinations and is an exciting fighter, where as Floyd held Chino 25 times per round while bicycling and pot shotting to a victory to where he RAN the entire 12th round...

Who in the world wants to pay 75$ to watch Floyd do what he did last Saturday?

Who is left to fight for Floyd that would sell ppv's if it is not Pac?

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amayseng:

"If I'm not Mistaken Manny P has been KO'd 3 times in his Career and Floyd has never lost right??????"



What does that have to do with styles and matchups?



In fact JLC beat him in their first fight. Just because 3 judges saw it one way does not mean they got it right. Everyone else in the world saw JLC beat Floyd.

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thegreyman:

"If I'm not Mistaken Manny P has been KO'd 3 times in his Career and Floyd has never lost right??????"



So?

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thegreyman:

"When Canelo ditches Showtime for HBO, that's when the bosses will call Espinoza into the office and tell him to clean out his desk. Maybe he can join the Swiss banker and hang around the Mayweather gym."

Canelo's going to HBO? I've not read anything on it, but it would be interesting to know why.

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thegreyman:

"I like how Canelo wants to go head to head against Floyd with ppv's....

Hopefully it will drive down the prices."


More competition in the PPV market will not only drive down prices, but also (hopefully) inspire promoters and networks to put on better fights.

Competition is the driving force in boxing- the more of it we have, in every area, the better for the sport.

I think Canelo should go for it. He's well aware that Floyd's ship is sailing, and when it does, he can take the Hispanic market in its entirety, and much more besides.

Then we get GGG, Lomachenko and others competing for PPV buys, and happy days are not too distant.

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The Good Doctor:

""Floyd" has never officially lost. But he got beaten in the actuality of the reality by JL Castillo in Bout I. And he lost to Cotto in Bout I. And if he fights 3m/Da Manny, he will lose in Bout I, II and III.

Styles make fights. And ev'ybodee and dey momma who don't not have overbearing man luv for Lil' Floyd know that he has a tough time with southpaws. Three out of four southpaws that he fought knocked him on his arse and/or carved up he mug. Holla at the videos. There are no optical illusions about these things. Holla!"


Interesting take there Radam. I have watched the Castillo fight and I cannot say that Floyd won that fight. I am not so sure he lost, but he did not win it. I did find it interesting that Lederman who is a pretty good scorer had it for Castillo 7-5 and he said he thought it was pretty obvious.

As for Cotto, again I will state that Cotto is my dude and I am the #1 Cotto fan. However, as bad as I wanted him to beat Floyd and as competitive a fight as it was, Floyd took it. What made that one pretty clear was that Floyd closed the show in that fight. He took Cotto to the woodshed in 11 and 12.

I also see that alot of people think Oscar beat Floyd which I think is ridiculous. That one was a clear 8-4 in my eyes. What say you on that one Mr. G?

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michigan400:

Few days late and a few million short.



But,,, I think we have gone from a 50/50 fight in 2009, to a "pretty sure" Floyd victory in 2012, now back closer to 50/50 after Mayweather had trouble with Chino in the 1st fight and looked stiff and off in the second (compared to his usual self anyway). If Maidana can push him like that and land punches, Pac WILL get some shots in and they WILL hurt. I think it's back to 50/50 if Pac looks good against CA.

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Froggy:

"If I'm not Mistaken Manny P has been KO'd 3 times in his Career and Floyd has never lost right??????"



I thought Oscar beat him also !

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Radam G:

"If I'm not Mistaken Manny P has been KO'd 3 times in his Career and Floyd has never lost right??????"

"Floyd" has never officially lost. But he got beaten in the actuality of the reality by JL Castillo in Bout I. And he lost to Cotto in Bout I. And if he fights 3m/Da Manny, he will lose in Bout I, II and III.

Styles make fights. And ev'ybodee and dey momma who don't not have overbearing man luv for Lil' Floyd know that he has a tough time with southpaws. Three out of four southpaws that he fought knocked him on his arse and/or carved up he mug. Holla at the videos. There are no optical illusions about these things. Holla!

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Skibbz:

Yes it will happen and it will be a great night of boxing. I only hope the undercard is on par with the main event.

Anyone who can should purchase seats ringside, it will be a phenomenal event without equal in this era without a doubt.

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Radam G:

"If I'm not Mistaken Manny P has been KO'd 3 times in his Career and Floyd has never lost right??????"

That has nothing to do with them fighting. Your mad man luv for Money May is lacking commonsense now. Holla!

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SouthPawFlo:

If I'm not Mistaken Manny P has been KO'd 3 times in his Career and Floyd has never lost right??????

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Froggy:

"No doubt! Mayweather would get KTFO! He could never stay more than five rounds with 3m/Da Manny. Now Money May might can beat Da Manny in the three-round fights of the 2016 O-games of Brazil. Holla!"



That is music to my ears, thanks RG !

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Radam G:

No doubt! Mayweather would get KTFO! He could never stay more than five rounds with 3m/Da Manny. Now Money May might can beat Da Manny in the three-round fights of the 2016 O-games of Brazil. Holla!

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Froggy:

"He would not win today, or the fight would be. In 2016, at 39 years old, he would not win in 12 rounds. He might in that three rounds of fighting in the O-Games. Holla!"



I just want to be sure RG, you mean Mayweather would not win, right ?

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