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Radam G:

Hehehehe! Wow! You got jokes! But Rocky definitely didn't show rust. But maybe he is piggyback staging and raging for a comeback like S-Briggs.

"LET'S GO, CHAMP!" Holla!

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Froggy:

"Check out fallen-on-hard times and long-homeless-by-choice ex-world champion Rocky Lockridge. He cracked a bulling street bum and put him to sleep like he did Uncle Roger Many back in day day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHm31XliRgY. Holla!"



Rocky didn't show much ring rust !

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Radam G:

Check out fallen-on-hard times and long-homeless-by-choice ex-world champion Rocky Lockridge. He cracked a bulling street bum and put him to sleep like he did Uncle Roger Many back in da day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHm31XliRgY. Holla!

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The Shadow:

"Shadow only scratched the surface with those videos... GGG's promoter K2's Greg Loeffler and Coach Able have stated many reasons why GGG shouldn't fight Ward. But GGG can be found in a vid introducing himself to Ward at a press conference ( hoping to promote a fight between them) But its Ggg's management who don't feel GGG isnt ready and they have said so many times...that's the reason GGG never mentions Ward anymore after fights... He's been ordered not to discuss Ward after Ward said he would accept GGG's offer.

The fighter isn't worried
The management is."


Round of applause for the one and only Brownsugar. You're absolutely right. His management knows EXACTLY what time it is.

And here's the thing that's so crazy to me. They hide behind the claim that Ward is not a draw. Yet the facts say he does fine gates in the Bay and his last fight against Rodriguez drew 1.3 million viewers.

GGG is a fighter. I'm sure he would fight a lion.

But his handlers?

They would rather get sodomized by an angry Mike Tyson before throwing their rising star -- and future cash cow -- to Andre Ward.

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New York Tony:

And me without my violin.

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The Commish:

"balderdash, Randy. You are being way too nice here.

The premise of this seems to be the thinnest of reasons to write an article slating Golota. And I will stand by that until Kingdome Come."


I guess it's how you look at it. I really didn't see the article as one written to bash Golota as much as it was written to praise Augustus and his courage, his will to fight on.

I even went back and re-read it. I do get your point. Especially, after the writer set the table early how Golota could have fought on, then ended the piece with "...he can never be likened to Andrew Golota."

I always felt bad for Golota. I thought he had all the attributes to become a world champion. That was BEFORE we learned additional information about him.

Still, I found myself thinking more--much more--about Augustus in Mr. Fernandez' article, than I did about anything or anybody else.

Perhaps the writer harbors some deep resentment towards Golota. Only he can answer that.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

"I will forgive you for not having "Manos De Piedra" on your list ….fine story and love the fact that you were motivated by Ali's actions and mistreatment to one day lead those organizations responsible for some of those slights and to issue such a public apology …priceless!! … talk about walking the walk !! …one CAN make a difference."

The guys on my list were not just my favorite to watch, but all became very close with me on a personal level, from my days at World Boxing & International Boxing Magazines to my days at Ring Magazine to my years as a sportscaster to my years as NY's Boxing Commish.

While I know Duran--he's even asked me to call him "Cholo"--the men on my list are/were among my closest friends. The exception was Kosta Tszyu.

When I put my list of All-Time Greats up here, rest assured the name Roberto Duran will be on the list. He was incomparable!

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Check out the latest TSS PxP Ratings. You--yes, YOU--have put Rigo at #3 in the PxP best-around ratings. It's hard to disagree. Especially when he's in the ring, doing his thing.

I have seen some on here say he's "boring." Really! Just because a guy is hard to land leather on doesn't make him boring. Excuse me, but Richar Abril, holder of one of boxing's lightweight belts, is boring. He's a runner. The bell rings and the fight becomes the "Richar Abril Invitational Track Meet." Thanks, but no thanks.

Guillermo Rigondeaux is your consummate boxer/puncher. He is ultra-fast and has the moves of a jack rabbit. When you reach for him he's gone.

Watch his counter-punching, though. He dazzled Nonito Donaire with his near-unstoppable counter right jabs.

Run? He doesn't run. He can slug it out and HAS slugged it out. But why should he when he can box so magnificently?

Rigo's toughest fight is not in a ring. I believe he would hand guys like Leo Santa Cruz, Carl Frampton and Scott Quigg their first loss. No, his toughest outings are not inside the ring. They're outside. He only has two ears, but has way too many mouths attached to those ears.

It's not as if he believes every one of them. He just believes the one attached to his ear at that moment. Same thing, I know, but different. He doesn't know who to trust. I guess when you come from the Communist upbringing of Cuba to the shores of freedom, it's so overwhelming you just know where to turn.

Guillermo Rigondeaux knows how to do one thing, and how to do that one thing better than anybody else. That's box.

But the clock is ticking. He's not getting any younger. He's got a managerial contract with Gary Hyde and an apparent promotional deal with Caribe (although Hyde says it is over with). Sounds to me like all parties are headed to arbitration.
This will only slow Rigo's career, maybe even derail it.

It's a shame.

It's a shame for Rigo and it's a shame for fight fans.

That's two of the world's best fighters--count Andre Ward as the other--who are thinking about boxing and talking about boxing but not doing much more than that.

The only place they are throwing punches is in the gym. In there, they aren't earning money.

And in there, we can't enjoy them.

-Randy G.

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brownsugar:

Seems like a lot of unconnected dots and loose ends. EM almost to had become an Arbiter or emissary of sorts between conflicted factions just to get an approximation of the facts. Hyde and Caribe are telling the same stories they had a year ago. Its a little scary that Rigo and Hyde are still virtual strangers and there hasn't been any full disclosure of the legal parameters between all parties involved. Sounds like Rigo has signed a few contracts too many. And nobody wants to work as a team.

I sure hope Rigo hasn't become too complacent with his upgraded standard of living in the meantime.

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teaser:

I will forgive you for not having "Manos De Piedra" on your list ….fine story and love the fact that you were motivated by Ali's actions and mistreatment to one day lead those organizations responsible for some of those slights and to issue such a public apology …priceless!! … talk about walking the walk !! …one CAN make a difference.

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brownsugar:

Sounds like a tremendously triumphant moment..
....along with a fair measure of payback to the small minded persecutors of Ali's motives and beliefs.
Let us know when the book arrives.

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Kid Blast:

balderdash, Randy. You are being way too nice here.



The premise of this seems to be the thinnest of reasons to write an article slating Golota. And I will stand by that until Kingdome Come.

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The Commish:

"it's easy to take shots at a fighter who can't fight back. In this case, The Foul Pole. But is that what a writer should do? Golota had issues upstairs, but when he was right, he was very, very good. Why use Burton's unfortunate circumstances to tear into Andrew. Jus seems mean-spirited to me.

The two are distinctly different."


The two ARE distinctly different, no question, but I see where Mr. Fernandez was going with this. To me, it seemed he wanted to make a point that quitting or not fighting back was not in Augustus' M.O. than it was in Mr. Golota's to find a way out.

I looked at the article as all about Augustus and not anything negative about Golota.

I know we all pray for Augustus to pull through.

-Randy G.

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Brad:

"If I had 16, he would have been there!!!"



I guess everybody's list is different and that's the way it probably should be...mine list has old stone hands numero uno.

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The Commish:

If I had 16, he would have been there!!!

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Carmine Cas:

That's a good fight for GGG, a step up and step in the right direction.

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Kid Blast:

By the way, how can I receive a notification that a response has been made?

Thanks

The Kid

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Kid Blast:

it's easy to take shots at a fighter who can't fight back. In this case, The Foul Pole. But is that what a writer should do? Golota had issues upstairs, but when he was right, he was very, very good. Why use Burton's unfortunate circumstances to tear into Andrew. Jus seems mean-spirited to me.



The two are distinctly different.

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Froggy:

Great stuff, can't wait for the book to come out !

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Brad:

Roberto Duran didn't make the list?

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brownsugar:

"In The first video from a few months ago , Ward says GGG's team doesn't want it but he thinks Chavez Jr does want it, but at this time Wards promoter can't do business with Arum. I love Ward but GGG hasn't ducked anyone and stays busy taking any fights he can while Ward is in legal limbo. Ward needs to get active and put his legal troubles behind him.

In the second video from 11 months ago, Ward stays classy and says GGG is a good fighter but he is not a big star yet and is being force fed to the public. He can look at it that way because he earned it. It's also clear to see GGG has grown In popularity , and fans will fill arenas just to watch him knock out -5000 opponents.

Who is more exciting to watch? Who can sell more seats?

I think GGG should have a chance to clean out his division. If the other guys hold the belts hostage then it is what it is but big money has a funny way of changing things. Ward cleaned out his division and I don't see him calling out Kovalev,Hopkins, Stevenson.

Let's see how it plays out but GGG is fighting 4 times a year while Ward is busy talking to Eli seckback and not getting in the ring. It can be super fight next year if both guys are able to fight."


Shadow only scratched the surface with those videos... GGG's promoter K2's Greg Loeffler and Coach Able have stated many reasons why GGG shouldn't fight Ward. But GGG can be found in a vid introducing himself to Ward at a press conference ( hoping to promote a fight between them) But its Ggg's management who don't feel GGG isnt ready and they have said so many times...that's the reason GGG never mentions Ward anymore after fights... He's been ordered not to discuss Ward after Ward said he would accept GGG's offer.

The fighter isn't worried
The management is.

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The Commish:

"Oh . . do I have Proska and Pirog mixed up?"

Lol...we all get our Proksa's and Pirog's mixed up!

Speaking of Pirog, I believe Danny Jacobs was ill with cancer when he fought Pirog. He underwent treatment right after that fight.

I wouldn't say GGG is unbeatable right now, but I don't see anybody in the middleweight division who can either outslug him or stay in the ring long enough to outbox him.

Move him up to face Andre Ward (whom GGG has said he is NOT against facing) and I think you might have a different story.

But at 160? Cotto? Quillin? Jacobs? No way!

Jermaine Taylor?

I should be arrested for simply suggesting they fight!

-Randy G.

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mortcola:

Yes. Proska is good. Pirog is a potential great. Where's he been, BTW? Have I just not been paying attention?

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The Commish:

"We never pulled out of a fight - against a guy with no chance to win.



Wilder and his manager might be wishing for that Roc Nation contract back.



Wilder wants the fight but he is being held up by other people. Stiverne signed on the dotted line.



Briggs is rated at number 7 maybe Roc Nation can get help him."




It looks like the holdup is more with Stiverne's promoter, Don King, than anywhere else. All parties involved want the fight: The champion. The challenger. Their managers. Even their promoters. There seems to be a sticking point between Bermane Stiverne and Don King. They've had problems before, then ironed them out.



Looks like they are having problems again.



Plus, knowing King, he probably is looking for some kind of promotional rights to Deontay Wilder, should he beat King's champion, Stiverne. Wilder's manager (Jay Deas), adviser (Al Haymon) and promoter (Golden Boy) are having none of that.



Mauricio Sulaiman has told King to close the deal. The threat of the title being stripped from Stiverne hangs over King's head. If King doesn't close the deal, the WBC will vacate the title, then have Wilder face someone else instead of Stiverne. The winner will be the new WBC Heavyweight Champion.



Your move, Mr. King.



-Randy G.

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stormcentre:

Oh . . do I have Proska and Pirog mixed up?

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deepwater2:

Pirog beat up Jacobs and I don't think Jacobs would have a chance at all against GGG. I talked with the classy Jacobs at the GGG - Stevens fight and he said he would fight GGG 100%. He also said Quillin was getting worked over by Rosado and was lucky to escape with a win.so even though Jacobs is a long shot I believe that he has enough guts to get in the ring and try.

I don't think the GGG Pirog fight went thru because of Pirog's bad back. I know Pirog went 12 with Ishida ,right after Ishida went 12 rounds with Paul Williams and GGG leveled Ishida in a few rounds.

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stormcentre:

"GGG might have a good run. He needs the opportunity to fight for all the belts.Not a huge fan of WK but at least he was able to fight for the belts.He won the IBO,WBO,IBF,WBA belts by fighting. He will probably fight for the WBC once Stiverne-Wilder finally happens.

GGG is the WBC mandatory now so he will get a crack at that title eventually.

GGG would of fought Quillin for his belt,if he didn't duck his mandatory,make excuses and throw his belt in the trash bin.

Taylor has the IBF belt and no way tsAH makes that fight, if he did, Dibella might have to step away with concerns for Jermain's health again.

Danny Jacobs ,who holds the WBA ,would have the guts to fight GGG but tsAH would not let that fight happen ,probably will let Quillin fight for the belt in an all Brooklyn matchup.

TsAH has the WBA and the IBF belts held hostage and he won't let them go unless the public outcry forces it."



Do you reckon Jacobs would really step up to 3G considering what 3G did to Pirog (destroyed him); after how Pirog easily blew out Jaobs?

Just asking?

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stormcentre:

Cotto V Golovkin is an interesting one for a few reasons including;

1) Golovkin has never professionally fought someone of Cotto's experience, toughness and skills.

2) Cotto has the ability to trail a (strong) counter/leading jab on Gennady and really upset his rhythm, and therefore his timing. 3G fights no-one that can do this.

3) Gennady has the power to knock out Cotto.

4) Cotto has the power to knock out Gennady.

5) Gennady has (almost) no active, and (mostly) only a passive, defence.

6) Cotto has a good defence.

7) Cotto's footwork could undo much of what Gennady puts together, stealthily, to bamboozle and overcome mediocre opponents, including 3G's hybrid and separate southpaw/orthodox (upper and/or lower body) moves I discussed last week; that resembles what was - yesteryear and I believe a little erroneously (or simplistically) - referred to as (Fitzsimmons and/or Ketchel and/or "place name of fighter in here that boxing commentator wants to sound knowledgeable about") shifting.

If the 3G V Cotto fight were to go ahead at a suitable catchweight (something I think Roach would undoubtably think of and engineer), and Cotto were to be suitably motivated and remunerated, I think Gennady could find himself in a reasonably tough fight.

Despite the fact that Cotto (as a light middleweight) is a blown up welterweight, or a recently moving up to light middleweight; which is a familiar recipe for Gennady - Cotto is - or has been - no Stevens, Geale or Rubio.

If not now, then only recently in the past he has been the complete boxer - puncher package, and 3G is both yet to face someone like that yet in the professional ranks and also (dangerously) still without a meaningful defence; in a marquee level boxing sense.

I'm just not sure whether the Cotto we have now is the one that provided Floyd with all he can handle, or the one that fought Trout and Rodriguez.

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gibola:

I think prior to his injuries and decline, Sergio Martinez may well beat him. Love GGG, but don't see him as unbeatable at all. A good puncher with decent speed and defence should fancy their chances of getting him into a 50/50 shootout. I repeat, he's there to hit and somebody with that little head movement will get hit and hurt sooner or later. They always do (think Kostya Tszyu). Having said that, there's no-one around at the moment that's capable. Quillan can punch but he lacks the all-round game.

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The Commish:

"A fighter with limited movement against Khan? Guerrero must think he can get lucky."

I hope the JMM-Guerrero fight gets made. Talk about fan friendly.

This one is very fan friendly!

-Randy G.

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