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ArneK.:

Yo, Admin....I wouldn't want to mod unless I could do it as well as Editor Mike, and i can't....

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The Shadow:

"He's been signing guys non stop recently. Especially 140-7'ers. Presumably with the same message... "i'll feed and cloth you well, and take you to your world title son."

Surely one or two of them must have clocked that there's not enough belts for the all of them?"


It's not about trinkets. It's about that check.

He's diversifying his portfolio in cunning fashion. He owns light heavyweight. Hopkins, Dawson, Stevenson, Shumenov.

If he gets Chavez, he has 168 on lock, domestically (Hearn owns most of that), and Andre Ward might have to partner up as well.

He's also starting to add to his cruiserweight collection. So evil.

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oubobcat:

I think this is a smart move by Golden Boy as well as a just move. Herrera fought very well against the champion at 140, Danny Garcia, and could very easily have gotten the nod in that fight. If the rematch if Garcia cannot happen, this is the next best move for his career. Fighting on a high profile PPV will keep Herrera's name relevant, make him a nice payday and maybe even collect a belt if he fights Perez.

From Golden Boy's perspective, Herrera generally makes entertaining fights especially if matched properly. If Perez does end up being the opponent, then this stylistically is a great matchup up. Perez comes forward and likes to mix it up on the inside. Herrera has shown in the past if pressed that he will exchange. There will be exchanges and they will go toe to toe at times. What is not to like about this fight from a fan's perspective?

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oubobcat:

I saw him fight a few times on tape and never thought he was that good. He was able to make a lot of money in Germany fighting guys that he should handle easy. The one time his people took a risk, against Virgil Hill, it was a very calculated move as Hill had just beat Henry Maske in Germany and had name recognition over there. So the risk was worth the reward and the gamble paid off as Michalczewski prevailed with the best win of his career. But after that the competition level was never very strong and his management was satisfied with making lots of money with relatively easy fights.

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oubobcat:

I will not score a round 10-10. In my opinion, in each round there has to be something to separate one combatant from the other. Its like the old "rule" in baseball about a tie going to the runner. But if you really think about, is there ever really a tie situation. No, either the ball got their first or runner's foot touched the base first. There is no real "tie" in that case. And the same principle can be used for scoring a close round. Somebody had to have an edge, even if very slight and thus they would deserve to win that round.

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oubobcat:

I like this card a lot and this really goes back to what HBO's Boxing After Dark was all about when the series debuted in the 90's. We have two very competitive fights and the styles of the combatants in each bout should make for very entertaining bouts as well. To me, this is what I want to see from a regular basis from either Showtime or HBO. Yes I want to see the stars but also I want competitive action packed fights. That is what this card certainly is and the only thing I am disappointed about is that it did not end up on the east coast so I could attend.

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oubobcat:

This is a horrible matchup of styles. First of all, I like Crawford a lot but as we have seen from some of his fights if he is not matched properly they can turn out to be quite lackluster. Gamboa can be explosive but this is generally only when it is safe. If he faces an opponent who poses a threat, he tends to lay back and fight very cautiously.



I see both men being very tentative and simply trying to pick their spots throughout the fight. They will each look to counter and search for mistakes while not trying to take any chances. I see a very dull fight tactical fight with a very low punch output from both men. Lets hope the promoter and HBO are smart enough to see this and look to steer both fighters in a different direction.

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oubobcat:

This is a horrible matchup of styles. First of all, I like Crawford a lot but as we have seen from some of his fights if he is not matched properly they can turn out to be quite lackluster. Gamboa can be explosive but this is generally only when it is safe. If he faces an opponent who poses a threat, he tends to lay back and fight very cautiously.

I see both men being very tentative and simply trying to pick their spots throughout the fight. They will each look to counter and search for mistakes while not trying to take any chances. I see a very dull fight tactical fight with a very low punch output from both men. Lets hope the promoter and HBO are smart enough to see this and look to steer both fighters in a different direction.

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oubobcat:

Shumenov has good skills. Generally, I also do not buy into the fact that experience beats youth and skill. However, Hopkins has used his vast experience in recent fights to out smart his much less experienced opponents. I expect Shumenov to pose some issues but Hopkins will find a way, mostly by stealing some close rounds, to win a tight decision.

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Arne, my man, you wanna Mod?? ---Editor Mike

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ArneK.:

I cringe whenever a boxer over the age of 40 enters the squared circle. But then I'm reminded of Archie Moore who had 219 pro fights (perhaps even more), answering the bell 1474 rounds (the comparable numbers for Hopkins are 64 and 482). Archie Moore was lucid well into his 70s and, for all I know, right up to the very end. But Archie was a freak of nature.

Most people know that BHop lost his first pro fight. Here's another oddity. The main attraction on that card pitted Saoul Mamby against John Meekins. Mamby had his last pro fight in the Cayman Islands at the preposterous age of 60 (shame on the promoter; whoever that was), so if Hopkins wants to be the ultimate greybeard, he has quite a ways to go.

For the record, Mamby lost his last fight to an opponent with a listed record of 6-21-1 who would go on to win only two of his next 17 fights. Hopkins is forewarned. Say goodnight Bernard, you have already cemented your status as one of the most remarkable athletes of all time.

As for a selection, I'm with Carmine Cas. I don't know enough about Shumenov to venture a pick.

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amayseng:

Shumenov looked solid all around from what I saw, he also seems very well composed.

I favor Hopkins, but at 49 anything can happen.

Great overall card though, and on Showtime not PPV

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The Commish:

This could very well be Bernard Hopkins' toughest fight. Gotta' give him a round of applause for taking on Beibut Shumenov.

Late last year, Hopkins told me he intended to carefully watch Shumenov in action against Tamas Kovacs. B-Hop was ringside to witness Shumenov's three knockdown destruction of Kovacs. He liked what he saw, and now is hours away from facing his taller, younger opponent from Kazakhstan.

While many veterans and authorities believe this will be the end of the line for Hopkins, and while I feel it will be a close, competitive fight, I see Hopkins using his decades of ring experience to show Shumenov and the rest of us just why he is a future Hall-of-Famer. He will nullify Shumenov on the inside, even tire him out. From the outside, B-Hop will keep the pace just as he wants it to be, controlling the action with his terrific jab.

I see this one going deep...probably the distance. When it does, B-Hop will have won for the 55th time, while Shumenov will have lost for just the second time.

-Randy G.

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Shoulder Roll Defense:

TC by decision if this fight actually gets made. TC is as skilled as Gamboa and has better ring IQ/ring generalship than the Cuban. The longer Crawford will fight behind his jab and switch back and forth between orthodox and southpaw, thus neutralizing the hand speed of Gamboa. Hand speed would be the only advantage Gamboa would have in the matchup.

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Coxs Corner:

I wanted to see the fight circa spring 2010 when it should have been made and actually would have been a real Superfight. It's almost as bad now as if Holmes and Foreman would have fought in the 90's and thinking that would have been an indicator of how the fight would have went circa 79-80 had Foreman remained active. I don't even want to see the fight now. Mayweather will win and it won't prove anything to me. Sorry.

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Radam G:

Again, B-Hop is gonna whup another hyped-up young gun. The fight, he has already won. Holla!

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jzzy:

The acrimony between the camps continues. As long as Arum is involved the fight will not happen, Mayweather has made that point

abundantly clear. So you writers should drop the it until something changes . It's becoming a tired subject that's suffering from

over exposure already. I urge you to concentrate on reality, there are other interesting matchups for both men as they approach retirement.

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SouthPawFlo:

Gamboa is explosive, but extremely careless and mistake prone, I'll definitely watch this match-up....



I might be leaning toward Gamboa but I think Crawford is more solid.

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stormcentre:

Perez, when he is on it, has some very good moves and excellent power.

He's like a little Mike Tyson sometimes.

Knows when to go for the kill too, and can do that when/if needed.

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leon30001:

I don't get this article; yes Pacquiao has officially lost twice, but why give that any credence to that when the first was a robbery?



And apparently there's not a morsel of evidence he can win, but he just beat the number 2 guy at welterwight, EASILY, so who the hell else should Mayweather be fighting at this juncture?



Finally...Floyd played his hand perfectly? By blatantly ducking his most natural opponent for the last several years? No. He set himself up for a lifetime of questions as to why he didn't fight Manny when he should have, and irrevocably tarnished his legacy in the process.

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Grimm:

Not interested. The mere thought of the antics of Floyd & family up until fighttime make me sick, and the fight itself wouldn't deliver enough to compensate for it.



Thought of note: there must be a reason - beyond pride or narcissism - Floyd hasn't responded to the lure of neither the cash nor the possibility to win this, in the eyes of a majority of the boxing world, supposedly easy fight. Floyd is, quite right, considered a superb analyst. Could it be he sense it wouldn't be quite as easy? Is there one fight that still can bring the absolute max out of Manny Pacquiao, it's this one. All the insults, all the sqornful smiles, would be his driving gasoline thru twelwe rounds of high energy. I've said it before: Floyd knows - victory or no victory - this would be a painful one, and all his other qualities aside: he doesn't like to bleed.

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Skibbz:

This is a good fight for both guys. Who knows after this fight Terry may attract more fans, but how many people will tune in?

I think Terry will take Gamboa, but Gamboa will provide a challenge Terry hasn't faced before so it'll be nice to see how he reacts. Then again when I think of it Gamboa could land something that would take Terry's legs from under him.

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Skibbz:

He's been signing guys non stop recently. Especially 140-7'ers. Presumably with the same message... "i'll feed and cloth you well, and take you to your world title son."



Surely one or two of them must have clocked that there's not enough belts for the all of them?

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Skibbz:

I can't wait for this bill, been looking forward to it since it's been announced.

Surprising there's so many takers for Shumenov. I don't think he's as scary as people believe. He should have two losses, his unorthodox defence doesn't help him and Bernard will beat him inside once he takes away his legs. Let's not forgot how avoidable his fully loaded shots are.

BHop by UD.

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Radam G:

Money May is luvin' it. But he will never take dat step in dat squared jungle with Da Manny. Da Manny is too uncanny.

Money May is built like the Titanic. He's been built up not to sink. But he will, and all the Kanos will panic. They act like Money May's poop poop doesn't stink.

He's the smart one. Da Manny would beat him silly, and spread him all over the canvas like mustard on a hot dog bun..

Down will go another myth about _____ ______ superiority. On what should, could and would happen, never listen to a bias authority.

Through the ages, there have been tons of impossible to win fights for underdogs. But the favored fighters have constantly ended up getting slaughtered like hogs. Holla!

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Radam G:

Hehehehe! He will sell his soul. That dinero al diablo he wants to hold. Holla!

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The Shadow:

I would say just about good enough to be a conditining coach for a Polish division 4 soccer team.



Not impressed. I rate him with the undefeated/five losses Sven Ottkes of the world.

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The Shadow:

For whatever reason, this matchup has captured the general public's imagination.



The hardcore fan base, from a PPV standpoint, does little to propel buys to the seven-figure stratosphere.



Moreover, the casuals have little to no knowledge along with a notorious short-term memory.



Like Frank points out, Manny Pacquiao can get flattened three more times and people would still buy.



You may recall, Mike Tyson, prior to challenging Lennox Lewis, hadn't looked sharp in decades nor had he even had a decent performance in years.



You guys may also remember the Pacquiao-Shane Mosley fight.



Hardcores crapped all over it, but savvy promoter Bob Arum couldn't care less.



"Sugar Shane Mosley resonates," said Arum, referring to the casual fan base.



Sure enough, these two fights did a combined 3.4m buys with each event being Lewis', Tyson's and Pacquiao's biggest PPVs to date.



When the x-factor -- perceived power -- is involved, the casual fan is convinced that the power will make that difference.



Of course, they're ignorant to the fact that power on its own is worth little more than a luxury vehicle without gas...



For that reason, I would agree with Frank.



This fight is Teflon. And I think everyone involved is well aware of that as well.

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The Good Doctor:

You guys are so much smarter and deeper than me. I think you have to have 10-10 rounds and the reason is simple. Boxing scoring by definition is subjective, therefore all results must be considered due to the fact that there are no restrictions in judgement.

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amayseng:

Gamboa? when has he fought last? 2 years ago?

I will take Crawford

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