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Buzz Murdock:

i don't think his job is controlling the fight...Controlling the fouls, but not the tempo of the action. I don't care how many seminars he attends, he looked like a deer lost in the headlights when Maidana bit Mayweather.

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SouthPawFlo:

As a fan I can say that I've probably purchased about 30 PPV bouts over the last 6-7 Years and some of my fight parties have been jam packed and some not so much...



Oscar vs Floyd

Floyd Vs Canelo

Manny Vs Margarito

Manny vs Clottey (that was a waste)

Floyd vs Marquez (Mismatch)

Manny vs Hatton (Mismatch)

Manny vs Rios (mismatch)

Cotto vs Martinez (BeatDown)





Are some of the major ones and in the main events there was at least some doubt about who was gonna win, and for the Maidana Scrap a lot of people (especially in Texas) people really felt Maidana had his number or would at least Challenge him..





That's the thing with PPVs you never know how the fights are gonna turn out, but you just pay your money and enjoy as a fan!!!

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stormcentre:

I would say that Floyd's concern over his public perception would be at an all time high right now.

Despite being tough as nails in a lot of ways - he's also a pretty fragile guy in some ways.

He took a big hit with the Miss Jackson thingy.

He knows that in order to please the (incredibly hard to please) fans, a Pacquaio fight might just do it.

So . . if he ever was going to be manipulated by these ploys of Bob, now may just be the time to do it.

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The Shadow:

"Bob Arum reckons both Showtime and HBO, Floyd and Manny's respective promoters, have agreed to co-distribute the fight, should it ever be made.

Arum's still trying to pressure Floyd by giving the public the perception that Floyd is the only obstacle to the fight.

No word from either Showtime or HBO at this point though.



Surely Arum knows by now, that if he's to work with Floyd to make the fight, he would be a subject, not a partner. Dealing with Floyd in such a was as this, will have no effect. You must flatter the king in his castle, temp the megalomaniac in his dreams.

Floyd will not be pressured.

Floyd sees no equal."


Well, according to SHO that's a lie. And according to Arum himself:

"Never believe anything a promoter says." - Bob Arum, Feb. 6, 2014

And TGM, you nailed it. The may be your best line ever.

"You must flatter the king in his castle, temp the megalomaniac in his dreams. "

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stormcentre:

"Actually you'd only need a person skilled in First Aid procedures at the Mayweather Gym.

The idiots that be who would meddle with Mayweather Gym would lose big time. I've seem it before. There is no problem about gambling and prostituting in the Fam May's gym. Legal gambling and legal prostitution are orders of the day in Sin City.

You guys need to holla at the place. You have hard hos and hard gamblers parading around with signs and shirts saying: "Hoes For Jesus," "Hos For The Lord," and "Gamblers For God."

Maybe a lot of people miss stuff become of looking, but not seeing, or because of just plain, old inattentional blindness.

I could tell you about some inattentional blindness in Sin City that will knock off your sock. Holla!"


OK . . . I have to ask RG.

WTF is "inattentional blindness"?

Previously I thought I had your slang or lingo down . . . but now I am not so sure.

How do you have blindness that is inattentional?

Or, are you saying the same thing as selective attention, hearing and/or acknowledgement?

Oh . . BTW I have never seen any girlies wearing "Hoes For Jesus" T-Shirts in Vegas, and I have always fantasised about not just a reliable and honest woman (which could lead one to consider churches) - but also one that is both complaint and rebellious in the bedroom.

I'd like to meet one of them - with the T-Shirt on of course.

:)

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Radam G:

"At this rate, Radam would soon have us believe only 5 people actually bought the fight"

I was hoping that I would have you believing three buys. The Commish, B-Sug and SouthpawFlo. Hehehe! Holla!

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stormcentre:

Some of the best fights I ever seen and had are in the gym.

Can't count the amount of times the mouthguard has been kicked off the canvass by the gum's unofficial "referee" as he called "fight on".

That said, I have also been to my share of (rough and poorly supervised) gyms where there are fighters with blood clots that have been told to stop.

It's not always right - but it's a jungle out there man!!!

But Floyd's open mockery for his boys getting concussed, and the lack of easily observable rounds goes a long way to explain his attitude and also the issues and wrong attention he seems to always attract.

That said, no-one seems to be forcing Money May's fighters to get up into the ring and participate in a fight until you drop/quit contest.

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Kid Blast:

I'm only going back to 1945 because I saw most of these guys fight live. No YouTube or Google for me. Just the real thing.

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Chris L:

I love this fight, even though Eubank Jr has fought Tomato cans he has shown a really impressive skill set.

Here is the footage of him sparring Froch if anyone wants to see it, he holds his own to say the least: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfd37A4z37M

Billy Joe will be receiving his first loss (and unfortunately for the poor bloke will have to face the wrath of the traveller community).

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thegreyman:

At this rate, Radam would soon have us believe only 5 people actually bought the fight

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Radam G:

Hehehe! My Tio Mamoy said that the Showtime and company's PPV counting crew are some soaphead bums and then in Spanish he said: "La casa del jabonero es toda un resbaladero" -- The house of a soap maker is a slippery place."

In other words, these ____ _____ _____ are slippery with bringing the true. And you might need to wash their mouths out. Holla!

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Radam G:

"Oh well the so called source( Espinoza aka john smith) might be wrong. ESPN Spanish station is reporting 700,000 which is a dud."



And that is how it is. An English-speaking liar breaks out with the BIG LIE. And in all other languages, you hear the actuality of the reality. But you are looked upon like you are scum hating "the A-side fighter" of the fanboys and groupies who have gone off on the fly with the first, quick lie. Holla!

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SouthPawFlo:

I was thinking somewhere between 700-750,000 myself...





I guess we gotta wait for the "Offical" numbers to come out

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deepwater2:

Oh well the so called source( Espinoza aka john smith) might be wrong. ESPN Spanish station is reporting 700,000 which is a dud.

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SouthPawFlo:

The Reason I'm asking 4 PPV numbers is because, I myself think that 925,000 number for this fight seems a little bloated, but I wanna compare the preflight "hype" of this fight to another fight with "comparable" numbers.. And also, I think that Canelo is a bonafide star but idk him as the A Side of a promotion is ready to compete with a Mayweather fight.

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The Good Doctor:

"Has TGD been in the lab experimenting with some chemicals of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde? Or perhap some herb of the good doctor and the Wolfman?

WARNING: Quit doing it. Hehehe! Holla!"


Ha Ha Ha!!! Radam, thank you for proving my point.

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Radam G:

"You are 100% right. I am not sure you could put one together because the topic is so subjective. In addition we have guys that have seen fights from the 50's (maybe even earlier) up until now who have great logic as to their opinion versus guys who are enormously adept at describing the present day fighters of the sport.

I will not throw around the word impossible, but I think we would have a hard time of even getting a remote consensus on more than maybe 2 or 3 fighters.

However, it would be interesting to see what we came up with as a group.

For example, and maybe I am starting crap by doing this, Roberto Duran and Floyd would not sniff my top 30. De La Hoya would not make my top 100."


Has TGD been in the lab experimenting with some chemicals of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde? Or perhap some herb of the good doctor and the Wolfman?

WARNING: Quit doing it. Hehehe! Holla!

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Radam G:

"Ok now I have two questions:







What was the last Non Mayweather fight to Top 900,000???





What were the numbers for Canelo's two PPV fights this year????









Don't worry I'll wait..."




You got your mind made up. So I have no credibility with you. Just Google it. And or ask TSS's The Shadow or the Commish. No matter what truths that I post, you are going to turn them into burnt toast. You are heavy with it. Of the man luv for my boy Money May, you have the most.



I gotta hit da pit and take a sleeping nap. And for all of your man luv for Money May, I clap. Hehe! http://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=MKLGTDH7io8. Holla!

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The Good Doctor:

"From what I have been reading here, if TSS did a list of the top ten of all time it would be unlike most others !"

You are 100% right. I am not sure you could put one together because the topic is so subjective. In addition we have guys that have seen fights from the 50's (maybe even earlier) up until now who have great logic as to their opinion versus guys who are enormously adept at describing the present day fighters of the sport.

I will not throw around the word impossible, but I think we would have a hard time of even getting a remote consensus on more than maybe 2 or 3 fighters.

However, it would be interesting to see what we came up with as a group.

For example, and maybe I am starting crap by doing this, Roberto Duran and Floyd would not sniff my top 30. De La Hoya would not make my top 100.

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Radam G:

"Mark Johnson!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!"

Go and holla at "Too Sharp." He was a bad, super-smooth,wrecking'arse mofu. And the first African American Yank to hold the flyweight crown, meaning that he was a pioneer like Jack Johnson being the first black to hold the heavyweight crown.

Too Sharp was so sharp and wrecking arse with it, that the late, great Johnny Tapia, Danny Romero and the P4P ATG Ricardo "Finito" Lopez avoided him like the Black Plague. Holla!

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Radam G:

"Any list that doesn't include Henry Armstrong isn't much of a list."



The "Swarmer" is at the bottom of my list of top of 15. He simply got too many gift decisions.



He once got a decision over one of my great, great, great uncles that was so bad that the powers that be had to change the decision to a draw and send in state troopers to rescue the referee -- the only scorer back then -- from the angry crowd. The fans wouldn't let him outta da squared jungle. I syet you not.



Another one of my great, great, great uncle shut down the Swarmer from winning the fringe NYSAC middleweight crown. Tio Celly -- Ceferino Garcia -- Bolo-ed the Swarmer at will. And you know the rest of the story: A big lie that the Swarmer was robbed with a draw and woulda, coulda, shoulda held world titles in half of boksing eight divisions at the same time.



Against my uncles, the swarming Homicide Hank was officially 1-0-5. But in the actuality of the reality, he was 0-6-0.



Boksing history is full of well-crafted fibs and optical illusions.



Did HHA even hold three at the same time? Holla for yourself.



Between phonyness about Sugar Ray Robinson and fibs and opitcal illusions about how many title belts at one did "Homicide" Hank Armstrong hold, dudes and dudettes be trying to rough-and-tumble me bulljive fantasies about them. And I ain't havin' it. Holla!

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Kid Blast:

Mark Johnson!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!

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Radam G:

"I'm all for hard sparring. I got thrown in there way too early too and came out stronger for it. It is part of it. I can tell you right now if we had filmed the brutal sparring and the authorities found out we opened the gym after hours and saw the people that watched and what we were doing our faces would have been in the paper. One guy was called the tooth fairy because his job was to find any loose teeth and put them in ice water.



The most important thing is don't video it or get caught. If you put it out there and the authorities don't do anything then they will lose their job after being deemed useless or corrupt.



Derek Jeter is the man because he will never ever get caught in public doing anything controversial."




Hehehehehehe! Ev'ybodee and dey momma got jokes now up in the Universe tonight -- P-Islands's time.



"One guy was called the tooth fairy because his job was to find any loose teeth and put them in ice water...."



Now that was funny as a muthapucka and 90 comedians and Billy Crystal. Holla!

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Radam G:

"Ask The Shadow. Right after that episode of All Access, we discussed it on my show. Everything they do makes a mockery of the very existence of the Nevada State Athletic Commission. I heard from my friends up there that they had no idea these things were going on, and now they are going to do something about it.



Remember, their new Executive Director, Bob Bennett, is a retired Special Prosecutor for the FBI. Floyd Mayweather and his crew of miscreants have effed with the wrong guy. If you do that stuff, you do it in private, not in front of the Showtime cameras.



I have a feeling Bob Bennett is going to come after Floyd, his promotional license and the license of everybody else who was seen in that All Access.



You think Marcos Maidana gave $$$May a tough fight? Just wait!



-Randy G."




He ain't gonna do Jack or Jill, or climb up a hill. And they are all full of bullsyet. I think that he has probably been to the gym. And he is just another created crook, who in Money May, he will not put a single hook. The FBI still has a bit of the residue of J Edgar Hoover. And it might be all up in Bob Bennett's ____ ____. Hehe!



Your friends suffer from severe inattentional blindness. It is no way in Sin City, that boksing power-knowing dawgs and hawgs don't and didn't know da haps at the Mayweather Gym. For years, TV cameras from around the globe have televised da haps like ABC used to do "Wide World of Sports.



Hahahaha! Hey Commish, tell your pals in Cali and the P-Islands to stay away from the Wildcard Gyms because YOU NEVER KNOW what may be going on.



Messing with the Mayweather Gym is a grab for attention for those who frustrated with not getting enough. Holla!

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deepwater2:

I'm all for hard sparring. I got thrown in there way too early too and came out stronger for it. It is part of it. I can tell you right now if we had filmed the brutal sparring and the authorities found out we opened the gym after hours and saw the people that watched and what we were doing our faces would have been in the paper. One guy was called the tooth fairy because his job was to find any loose teeth and put them in ice water.



The most important thing is don't video it or get caught. If you put it out there and the authorities don't do anything then they will lose their job after being deemed useless or corrupt.



Derek Jeter is the man because he will never ever get caught in public doing anything controversial.

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brownsugar:

Postol is all wrong for Mattysse.... Decent boxers can get by Mattysse with a contraversial win. (Judah, Alexander) Good boxers beat Mattysse (Garcia). Postol may be an unknown commodity, but he's a far better boxer than Mattysse has been in the ring with in quite a while.
And let's not forget that Selcuk was a strong welterweight so don't look for Postol to be overwhelmed.

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Froggy:

From what I have been reading here, if TSS did a list of the top ten of all time it would be unlike most others !

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Skibbz:

"Is Al Haymon hypnotizing his guys or something, fighters fight their whole career to become a world champion, they dream about it when they are in the amateurs and Al just got guys giving away Belts!!!


First Quillin and now Possibly Garcia?!!!"


Ha.... Made me chuckle I think you've got a serious point SouthPaw.

@Oubobcat I've watched Postol since his first 12 rounder. At that time I asked a friend of mine who knows the Russian scene inside out and he told me Vik P was a strong amateur with 220 W's but not amongst the best of the best. His performance was impressive although the opponent admittedly was not up to par however game. Since then he's beaten a string of good boxers, tricky fighters and fighters with some real toughness. Fighting Americans in the States hasn't fazed him and at 29 (I believe) he is ready to embark on the biggest fight of his career.

He's tough, as with all taller fighters they can be clipped by looping shots but this isn't something new to him and he has for as long as I have watched him been able to keep shorter and stockier adversaries at arms length where he prefers them to be. The power isn't phenomenal but hard enough to keep you at bay - you can't eat them all night without getting marked up pretty bad. He's also game which is great and will help him against Matthysse.

Matthysse will have to fight past the long reach of Postol. Postol is extremely adept at keeping a shorter opponent at bay and if he's focused and doesn't get dragged into a slugfest with the banger he should have a good chance, better than Matthysse for my money. Now i'm not saying Postol is the new king of the division, not by a long shot, but if he sticks to the right plan he has the beating of Matthysse. If he succumbs to the pressure, freezes and loses focus at any point it will be Mattyhsse who will be crowned the new world champ.

Either way now with the cotton wrapped champ is looking to vacate the division let's hope we get some good fights for the strap...

Also would anyone be surprised if Broner Matthysse fight it out? Is that a possibility? Someone please inform me.

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brownsugar:

Actually with Rock Stars and Rappers lighting up on stage. An elected official admitting to smoking pot (Clinton) without inhaling. And 85% of Hollywood advocating the legalization. of pot..and Two of cable TV's Highest rated Shows ; "WEEDS" and "Breaking Bad" having been embraced by mainstream America its not even safe for an elected official to oppose the use of pot.
Ask Arnold!!!
Personally I can't smoke it but those who do and those who display smoking it have little to fear.

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kelseym:

My typical list is as follows.



1. Ray Robinson

2. Joe Louis

3. Henry Armstrong

4. Harry Greb

5. Roberto Duran



That's P4P Top Five. I include only modern age to guys like Bob Fitzsimmons are not included but are tops in their own era and probably any other.



As for Mayweather, I think he has trouble with any of the following at welterweight: Robinson, Leonard, Hearns and Duran. I can't decide who is the biggest nightmare for him, Hearns or Duran. Both have cases. I think prime Henry Armstong would wreck him, too. That isn't to say Mayweather isn't great. He is. But he's not up there with those guys. If you want to overrate someone of this era, it should be Pacquiao. His wins over Barrera, Morales and Marquez are better than any Mayweather has, and his welterweight prime in 2008-10 was unbelievable for someone who started out so small. Moreover, his thrashing of Bradley this year is better than any win Mayweather has since he moved over to Showtime.

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