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spit bucket:

"But I also remember this young, Welsh I think, boy getting killed years ago in the ring. "

He was the "Merthyr Matchstick", Johnny Owen. And he died after a bout with Lupe Pintor at the Olympic in LA. I was horrified when fans started pelting the unconscious Owen with beers and trash. I'd seen this behavior before after a Bazooka Limon fight. Everyone at ringside had large plastic tarps draped around their shoulders. I couldn't figure out why until beers started flying into the ring from every direction and the savvy ringsiders held the plastic sheeting over their heads like umbrellas... and that was after a Limon win! When Hagler won the mw title by KO against Alan Minter, British fans retaliated by throwing beers and trash at him and his handlers. His team surrounded Hagler to protect him from the flying debris. Two ugly nights to forget.

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yomi:

"Cooney and I have talked extensively about that night. Cooney was a ruthless, relentless finisher. If he hurt an opponent, he'd always step on the gas. He had a sadistic side to him that would make him want to put more and more hurt on his opponent. His trainer, Victor Valle, used to go wild on Cooney in the gym if he ever let up on a sparring partner, even a little.

"Finish him!" Valle would yell when Cooney staggered a hapless sparring partner. "What are you waiting for?"

I saw more than one gym session where Cooney left his sparring partner draped on the ropes.

The sustained beating and pummelling of Ken Norton was not Cooney's fault. Professional boxing matches have trained referees. They are the ones who are supposed to stop a match at the right time. Not too early, not too late. The right time. Referee Tony Perez was in there a few punches too late. He did that in other fights he officiated at, not just in Cooney Norton. Michael Spinks v Mustafa Wassaja was one of them. Ray Mercer v Tommy Morrison was another.

Yes, Cooney v Norton was a scary sight. All of us thought Norton was going to get killed as Cooney hammered him with blow after blow.

I enjoyed watching it.

But I hope I never see another one like it.

-Randy G."


Now that shed's a lot of light! Cooney-Norton, and Mercer-Morrison had the same ref! I never knew this, but it makes all the sense in the world. He was late for Cooney-Norton, but for Mercer-Morrison he was... absurd. That was a terrifying moment. What happened to Perez after Mercer-Morrison?

@DaveB: was the welsh kid Johnny Owen (v Lupe Pintor)?

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brownsugar:

"I actually think Lomachenko has an easier time in this fight than he did against Russell. Yes the Thai fighter has a glossy record but who has he fought? His last fight in August for example he won a six round decision against a 2-2 fighter and his record is littered with fighters with such records (a few fights back beat someone who was 1-10). The one time he stepped up he lost a wide decision to Chris John.



The bigger question to me is how dominant will Lomachenko be in this fight and can he get a stoppage.



On the undercard, I am actually looking forward to the first fight between Vargas and Demarco. I think this could be a high contact kind of fight and very entertaining. And probably will be the best fight of the night."




Absolutely... I'm working overtime and won't get off till midnight... But I'm recording the fights

I wish your guy luck. What he lacks in experience he almost makes up for with determination.

Chris has a good image that resonates with fans.



Can't wait to see Lomo defend his title.

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DaveB:

"Cooney and I have talked extensively about that night. Cooney was a ruthless, relentless finisher. If he hurt an opponent, he'd always step on the gas. He had a sadistic side to him that would make him want to put more and more hurt on his opponent. His trainer, Victor Valle, used to go wild on Cooney in the gym if he ever let up on a sparring partner, even a little.



"Finish him!" Valle would yell when Cooney staggered a hapless sparring partner. "What are you waiting for?"



I saw more than one gym session where Cooney left his sparring partner draped on the ropes.



The sustained beating and pummelling of Ken Norton was not Cooney's fault. Professional boxing matches have trained referees. They are the ones who are supposed to stop a match at the right time. Not too early, not too late. The right time. Referee Tony Perez was in there a few punches too late. He did that in other fights he officiated at, not just in Cooney Norton. Michael Spinks v Mustafa Wassaja was one of them. Ray Mercer v Tommy Morrison was another.



Yes, Cooney v Norton was a scary sight. All of us thought Norton was going to get killed as Cooney hammered him with blow after blow.



I enjoyed watching it.



But I hope I never see another one like it.



-Randy G."




Absolutely it was the ref's fault. I'm not blaming Cooney. Fighters are trained to get people out of there. I didn't like Perez as a ref. It is funny that Norton said it but he said Why should I let the other guy off the hook? He wouldn't let me off the hook. Norton in turn drilled Bobick. That is what fighters do with the exception of Ali, who would call the referee in and astonishingly usually the ref would call the fight. That is what I meant when I was talking about the Welsh kid, there was nothing else I would have done differently. The Cooney/Norton fight comes to mind because Norton was a sitting duck and could have been fatally injured. Good Lord Cooney can punch.

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Kid Blast:

I agree with Freddie Roach that Algieri may be "in over his head." If he hits and runs, Pac will run him down with a stalk, stun, and close scenario which, worse case, will end in a UD win for Pac Man .After all, Manny is not the much slower Provodnikov. If Chris unwisely engages, he will be stopped.

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The Commish:

"If you ever find the answer, please let me know. I've struggled with this in the past. I'm always saddened by tragedies in the ring and how people within the sport itself treat one another. However I've been attracted to boxing since I was seven years old. I always try to think how things could have been avoided. Like when I saw Cooney gave Norton about three extra blows that shouldn't have occurred. Thank God nothing came of that. But I also remember this young, Welsh I think, boy getting killed years ago in the ring. There was nothing I would have done differently. Damn that really bothered me. Tragedies, God I wish they never happened, the aftermath for many after a career in boxing I wish didn't happen, that is the bad side of boxing. But gosh what excitement boxing gives. It is like nothing else in sports and that is why I continue to be attracted to it. If it were abolished though I would understand."

Cooney and I have talked extensively about that night. Cooney was a ruthless, relentless finisher. If he hurt an opponent, he'd always step on the gas. He had a sadistic side to him that would make him want to put more and more hurt on his opponent. His trainer, Victor Valle, used to go wild on Cooney in the gym if he ever let up on a sparring partner, even a little.

"Finish him!" Valle would yell when Cooney staggered a hapless sparring partner. "What are you waiting for?"

I saw more than one gym session where Cooney left his sparring partner draped on the ropes.

The sustained beating and pummelling of Ken Norton was not Cooney's fault. Professional boxing matches have trained referees. They are the ones who are supposed to stop a match at the right time. Not too early, not too late. The right time. Referee Tony Perez was in there a few punches too late. He did that in other fights he officiated at, not just in Cooney Norton. Michael Spinks v Mustafa Wassaja was one of them. Ray Mercer v Tommy Morrison was another.

Yes, Cooney v Norton was a scary sight. All of us thought Norton was going to get killed as Cooney hammered him with blow after blow.

I enjoyed watching it.

But I hope I never see another one like it.

-Randy G.

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sumopop:

Great comment, DaveB. Said as much as I did with far fewer words. Thanks to Kid Blast for the other nice comment as well.--David Phillips.

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The Commish:

"Callum Smith R7 should have been a KO a while ago but Smith is happy to see what the tough eastern european can teach him, it's a seasoning type of fight. Quigg coming to defend his world title against the veteran Japanese contender in half an hour. Should be a great few fights before the main event."


I am looking forward to a seeing Quigg in action. This card is nothing short of excellent.

The Cleverly-Bellew rematch is nothing short of "can't miss boxing."

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

"Tijuana's Kenia Enriquez dominated from the opening bell to win the vacant WBO female flyweight world title by unanimous decision against southpaw Ana Arrazola on Friday in San Diego.

A packed crowd coming from Mexico and the U.S. saw the smiling Enriquez (13-0, 6 Kos) perform impressively at the Crowne Plaza Hotel. Arrazola (21-11-2, 13 Kos), from Mexico City, never could get a foothold in the 10 round fight.

"It was a very complicated fight," said Enriquez after the fight. "She would never stay in front of me."

With the opening bell Enriquez attacked with powerful punches that seemed to startle Arrazola with their ferocity. It was clear that the former minimum weight world champion expected a more placid and deliberate fight. It was deliberate in only that Enriquez was looking for a knockout in every round.

The crowd on one side of the large hotel reception room shouted intensely every single round with instructions and encouragement. But the cheers were not needed. Enriquez was intent on proving her superiority and that she was superior in speed, power and agility. Arrazola felt the early blows and seemed surprised by the power. For the next nine rounds the Mexico City boxer seemed resigned to surviving, not winning the fight.

Even Enriquez's jabs had power. She rammed them right through Arrazola's guard and the power would move her back a step. Straight right leads from Enriquez snapped through Arrazola's guard and left hooks ripped through too.

Arrazola never stood in one spot and never allowed the Tijuana fighter to pin her against the ropes. The Mexico City boxer always circled and though she never initiated an attack, she also never allowed Enriquez to put full power into her punches.

Though Enriquez smiled frequently in between rounds in her corner, she looked like a heat-seeking missile that would be satisfied with a knockout and nothing else. After five rounds of thorough domination she walked back to her corner with a smile but when the bell rang to begin the next round she slipped into another degree of intensity.

The blows came more frequently from Enriquez and from various angles in the sixth round. Arrazola used all of her technique and wisdom gained from more than 30 fights to fend off the fierce attack. She parried some of the blows and rolled with the punches to reduce the impact of the blistering right hands and hooks. It was the most intense attack of the night. Enriquez would have gained a knockout if the round was three minutes instead of two minutes. But the round ended and Arrazola had survived.

Enriquez softened her attack in the seventh then resumed another fierce attack in round eight. Though not as intense, it was still strong and Arrazola seemed surprised that Enriquez still had the energy. The Tijuana boxer seemed locked in and never seemed to tire.

In the ninth round Enriquez moved in for a knockout again with laser rights that looked beautiful in their speed and technique. A few shots to the body got a reaction from Arrazola, who was determined to not go down. The southpaw would not allow Enriquez to pin her on the ropes and would not stand in front of her for more than 10 seconds. It was a wise plan.

Though Arrazola had not been able to mount an attack at any point in the fight, she did show what could be done to survive. Remarkably the Mexico City boxer never held in the fight. Instead, she parried and circled continuously without running. It was a solid plan but she could never get a bead on Enriquez.

The final round saw Enriquez rip a right hand immediately after shaking Arrazola's hand with a smile. Friend or no friend, the Tijuana fighter was looking for a knockout win and was taking no prisoners. When the round ended it was clear that Enriquez was the victor.

All three judges scored every round for Enriquez 100-90, 100-90 and 100-89.

"It was the most difficult fight of my life," said Enriquez. "Whenever I tried to end the fight she would move or do something to get away. But I expect to see this type of fight again in this level."

Enriquez has also shown that she can bring crowds from both sides of the border."




I have had a few looks at Ms. Enriquez before, and this little lady can fight! I know not all of you are fans of female boxing, but watch her if you can. You will most certainly love what you see. She is an action fighter all the way.



Congratulations to Kenia Enriquez, now the WBO female flyweight champion.



-Randy G.

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Pazuzu:

"Skibbz, how did the predictions come down from TSS crowd?"

Or, as I should have asked, did anyone besides The Commish pick Algieri?

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Pazuzu:

"There's only a few days left until the fight, who's everyone picking?



I'm going with Pacquiao. Chris finds himself square too often, and those ear muffs won't stop a single punch from landing on his brainbox. We might see a valiant effort from Algieri but I think Pac will ultimately stop him by the 7th or 8th.



Who have you guys got picked?"




Skibbz, how did the predictions come down from TSS crowd?

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Froggy:

"I don't if he is originator of that, but the late, great trainer Gil Clancy said that umpteen times while he was a talking head. Hills!"



I read it recently in a Steve Kim article on UCN, it wasn't Gil Clancy but I don't know who it was ! A boxing writer I think, one I had not heard of !

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Radam G:

"I wish I could think of who said it oubobcat, but somebody once said " boxing records are like bikini's, they show a lot but don't reveal everything " !"

I don't know if he is originator of that, but the late, great trainer Gil Clancy said that umpteen times while he was a talking head. Holla!

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Skibbz:

Radam it's the ayahuasca he's been drinking. I heard him say Algieri has the universe on the side and power of the full circle... They suffer from the same dilusion George Groves has. It can become a monster if not tamed..

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The Shadow:

"Glad to see this fight in finally set. This will be an excellent way to open 2015.

I have yet to decide who I am picking. Its a real tough call and one of the reasons this fight is so intriguing. I am hopeful Wilder can become a star but also concerned about how he has been moved so far in his career. He has developed bad habits in the ring and needs to correct those against someone like Stiverne who is not Jason Gavern, Malik Scott or Nicolai Firtha.

As for Stiverne, what kind of shape will he be in and what will his mindset be facing Wilder? There have been rumors that Stiverne has allowed himself to get out of shape since the big win against Arreola. Stiverne has very good skills and can crack as he showcased in his two wins against Arreola. But was that the peak of his career and will he continue to stay hungry and motivated.

I can't wait for this one myself."


Call in tonight, Mr. McConaughey!

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The Shadow:

"Imagine being bombarded with the same **** and questions constantly all the time.

At some point you become annoyed and less sensitive.

You know how exhausting it is for me to explain a knee replacement, over and over and over, and over? Yes it is my job and I am always professional about it, for the sake of my job, but in boxing you can be shitty, emotional or disrespectful
and continue on."


I hear ya but he wants to talk. He enjoys the questions. He loves being surrounded by people and reporters asking him. It doesn't annoy him. He embraces it!

In fact, his girlfriend/publicist has to tell him to stop because he will shoot the sh*t with you all night.

At Wild Card dude was telling me, "I have two guys who can beat Floyd," referring to, of course, Manny Pacquiao and Amir Khan.

Even though he said it, at least he wasn't abrasive about it.

He made a salient point and I just listened. "I just like the guy who throws a 100 punches a round over the guy that throws 20," he said.

Just like that.

But at no point in time was he being a jerk like he is now. Even the way he was in Macau last year before he ate that kick, it seems like he's become douchey.

Maybe it's when the cameras come out. Because in person he's a very nice, patient, friendly guy.

"Angele was a nice man. The best. Would never say a bad word about anybody," Roach said. "I'm not there yet but that's who I'm striving to be like every day."

I like to think I can get a good read on people. That stuff he's been saying lately is just nuts; nothing like the guy I've seen.

THAT SAID, this is not a gentleman's sport. This is boxing. This is warfare that includes battles of business, minds, leverage, position, money, political standing, media WAY before the first punch is ever thrown.

All is fair in love and war. And there's a reason why he's 124-time Trainer Of The Year.

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amayseng:

"Dude, he's been saying some off the wall sh*t! Dude is either a genius promoter or completely deranged. He's all over the place.

I liked him better when he was on his epic losing streak. Was much, much easier to deal with.

That said, he's a real nice guy in person, I've spent quite a bit of time just chatting with him at his gym after people left.

He's a nice guy and he wants to be just that. When the cameras and sh*t come in his face, this Mr. Hyde character just comes out in him, making him sound like a damn idiot."


Imagine being bombarded with the same **** and questions constantly all the time.

At some point you become annoyed and less sensitive.

You know how exhausting it is for me to explain a knee replacement, over and over and over, and over? Yes it is my job and I am always professional about it, for the sake of my job, but in boxing you can be shitty, emotional or disrespectful
and continue on.

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amayseng:

"Or is it a ploy being used to gain leverage in the Canelo negotiations?"

Bingo... If Freddie knows one thing, it is that hype creates intrigue which creates money.

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DaveB:

If you ever find the answer, please let me know. I've struggled with this in the past. I'm always saddened by tragedies in the ring and how people within the sport itself treat one another. However I've been attracted to boxing since I was seven years old. I always try to think how things could have been avoided. Like when I saw Cooney gave Norton about three extra blows that shouldn't have occurred. Thank God nothing came of that. But I also remember this young, Welsh I think, boy getting killed years ago in the ring. There was nothing I would have done differently. Damn that really bothered me. Tragedies, God I wish they never happened, the aftermath for many after a career in boxing I wish didn't happen, that is the bad side of boxing. But gosh what excitement boxing gives. It is like nothing else in sports and that is why I continue to be attracted to it. If it were abolished though I would understand.

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Froggy:

I wish I could think of who said it oubobcat, but somebody once said " boxing records are like bikini's, they show a lot but don't reveal everything " !

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oubobcat:

"The Lomachenko-Pirayapinyo fight looks to be tremendous. The highly-touted V-Lo is 2-1 as a pro an already a world champion. His 29-year-old Thai opponent is 52-1, his only loss coming against then-unbeaten champ Chris John over two years ago.

You will see the boxing skills of the multi-faceted southpaw V-Lo at their ultimate best. He must stay busy and come at the hard-hitting Pirayapinyo (33 KO's) from angles, never giving him a chance to set up.

Yes, this one could very well be the best fight on the card.

-Randy G."


I actually think Lomachenko has an easier time in this fight than he did against Russell. Yes the Thai fighter has a glossy record but who has he fought? His last fight in August for example he won a six round decision against a 2-2 fighter and his record is littered with fighters with such records (a few fights back beat someone who was 1-10). The one time he stepped up he lost a wide decision to Chris John.

The bigger question to me is how dominant will Lomachenko be in this fight and can he get a stoppage.

On the undercard, I am actually looking forward to the first fight between Vargas and Demarco. I think this could be a high contact kind of fight and very entertaining. And probably will be the best fight of the night.

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oubobcat:

Glad to see this fight in finally set. This will be an excellent way to open 2015.

I have yet to decide who I am picking. Its a real tough call and one of the reasons this fight is so intriguing. I am hopeful Wilder can become a star but also concerned about how he has been moved so far in his career. He has developed bad habits in the ring and needs to correct those against someone like Stiverne who is not Jason Gavern, Malik Scott or Nicolai Firtha.

As for Stiverne, what kind of shape will he be in and what will his mindset be facing Wilder? There have been rumors that Stiverne has allowed himself to get out of shape since the big win against Arreola. Stiverne has very good skills and can crack as he showcased in his two wins against Arreola. But was that the peak of his career and will he continue to stay hungry and motivated.

I can't wait for this one myself.

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The Shadow:

Dude, he's been saying some off the wall sh*t! Dude is either a genius promoter or completely deranged. He's all over the place.

I liked him better when he was on his epic losing streak. Was much, much easier to deal with.

That said, he's a real nice guy in person, I've spent quite a bit of time just chatting with him at his gym after people left.

He's a nice guy and he wants to be just that. When the cameras and sh*t come in his face, this Mr. Hyde character just comes out in him, making him sound like a damn idiot.

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The Shadow:

...AND the birthday of a guy with strong ties to the heavyweight division, the great Cus D'Amato!

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kidcanvas:

that makes sense frank, once pacquiao is completely shot only then will floyd take the fight . thats his mo anyway

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The Commish:

"No shots at you are necessary. I understand your temporary homeboy-luv insanity. That jive will give you inattentional blindness and change blindness. And you just will not be able to see the actualities of realities.

Just dig how your other homies have gone off their rockers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITGzFb4CBm0.

Tim Lane is expected to pull some wise, ole, Trainer Genie Naazim's syet. Lane has already been throwing hizzy-and-pizzy fits about how Da Manny wraps his hands.

No Joke Coach Freddie Roach will have him removed from Da Manny's dressing. And if Lane keep acting up and showing his arse, he will missed the dance and will spend the rest of the weekend in da crazy house heavily medicated, and then deported back to the Empire State on Monday.

Somebodee and dey sidekick musta fo'got to tell Lois Lane's kissing cousin dat he ain't running syet on this Chinese BIG, BIG M-Island. Holla!"


Sounds to me like Tim Lane is having fun as the moment approaches.

I know that when Algieri wins, his head won't swell and he'll be the same likable guy--just a lot richer and a lot more famous.

I have a feeling Tim is gonna' have a bit more difficulty handling the fame.

In a little over 12 hours from this writing, all the rhetoric will stop and the punches will start.

The moment will be here.

Hopefully, you guys--and gals--will be able to share in the post-fight moment with Gerry Cooney, The Shadow and me on SiriusXM's "Post-Fight Special."

Call in toll-free at 1-866-522-2846 and tell the screener you are with The Sweet Science. He'll put you ahead of the many callers who will be waiting to go on and share their thoughts and feelings on the fight.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

"One guy I know condemned boxing on moral grounds and then kept writing about it. For me, that's just plain wrong. He never talked to me again after I pointed this out. Too fragile I reckon."

Was that guy a high-profile journalist? I can't believe he was so morally against it, then went ahead, watched it and wrote about it.

He never spoke to you again for even mentioning it?

His loss!

-Randy G.

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Kid Blast:

One guy I know condemned boxing on moral grounds and then kept writing about it. For me, that's just plain wrong. He never talked to me again after I pointed this out. Too fragile I reckon.

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Kid Blast:

Boxing is like a plane crash. Every time one happens, we try to learn so that it doesn't happen again. The Greg Page tragedy was the best example of this. But if all the necessary precautions are in place--Ambulance, ringside doctors, competent official's, etc and then a tragedy still occurs (such as in the Levander Johnson fatality), I submit we either accept it as a part of boxing culture or leave the sport entirely. Can't have it both ways. The Mago affair is one where things were not in place and that one is a real test of the morality issues associated with boxing.



Nice article David.

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Radam G:

"I think you guys are making way too much of Algieri coming in overweight. It wasn't four pounds over. It wasn't two pounds over. It was 2/10 of a pound!



Two/tenths of a pound!



It was a urinal stop over. A long urinal stop...he lost 6/10 of a pound!



Stop making a big deal of Algieri being overweight.



If Pacquiao wins tonight--that's IF--I really want you guys to call into the show and talk to Gerry Cooney & The Shadow on the SiriusXM post-fight special.



The toll-free number is 1-866-522-2846.



And while you're talking to Cooney and The Shadow, you might as well take some shots at me.



I'd deserve it.



But when Algieri wins--that's WHEN--I still want you to call in and tell me you should have listened and bet that early heavy line on C-Al.



Let the partying begin!



-Randy G."




No shots at you are necessary. I understand your temporary homeboy-luv insanity. That jive will give you inattentional blindness and change blindness. And you just will not be able to see the actualities of realities.



Just dig how your other homies have gone off their rockers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITGzFb4CBm0.



Tim Lane is expected to pull some wise, ole, Trainer Genie Naazim's syet. Lane has already been throwing hizzy-and-pizzy fits about how Da Manny wraps his hands.



No Joke Coach Freddie Roach will have him removed from Da Manny's dressing. And if Lane keep acting up and showing his arse, he will missed the dance and will spend the rest of the weekend in da crazy house heavily medicated, and then deported back to the Empire State on Monday.



Somebodee and dey sidekick musta fo'got to tell Lois Lane's kissing cousin dat he ain't running syet on this Chinese BIG, BIG M-Island. Holla!

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Teddy Atlas, the passionate and opinionated fight analyst and trainer, on Thursday night held his 18th annual Teddy Dinner, the fundraiser for his charity, which honors his late father, and helps out people who fall in between the cracks in the Staten Island area and beyond. The ESPN talent drew a sold out room on Staten Island, at the Hilton Garden Inn, and raised another load of cash which will help out those needing a hand up. He was kind enough to share his thoughts on the Pacquiao-Algieri scrap with me the day before the dinner, as he...

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Lathan Helps Launch "Fight For Your Future"

I attended a press conference on Friday announcing an exciting new initiative spearheaded by the New York State Athletic Commision chairperson Melvina Lathan, one which will aid boxers in gaining entry into high education slots. I will furnish a detailed report shortly, but in the meantime, check out this release which touches on the ambitious endeavor: THE CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK, THE NEW YORK STATE ATHLETIC COMMISSION, USA BOXING METRO AND DAILY NEWS CHARITIES, INC. TO LAUNCH “FIGHT FOR YOUR FUTURE” PILOT PROGRAM FOR NEW YORK...

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George Groves Stops Denis Douglin Saturday Night

Denis Douglin, George Groves Photo Credit: Lawrence Lustig Denis Douglin had weigh in woes, but he had his moments during his Saturday scrap against George Groves; the scale fail, however, ultimately portended doom for the NJ-based boxer, who’s nicknamed “Da Mamma’s Bopy,” because mom Saphya works his corner. Douglin, a lefty, found a home with both hands on the Brit Groves, who was last seen by many getting stopped by Carl Froch one year ago. He rebounded with a win over Chris Rebrasse in September and looked to rebuild...

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