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brownsugar:

I'm just referring to GB and TR working together.
Margarito was never the super middle weight champ and they fought at a catch weight so personally I don't see Paq as an eight title winner. And I don't see his management letting him go to 154.. Canelo would crack his ribs worse than Margarito.

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Carmine Cas:

Both Ariza and Floyd are clowns

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Carmine Cas:

"Nice... This offers at least a semblance of a ray of hope."

Yes it does, but that's a silly fight. Canelo has a hard enough time making 154, 152 hurt him. I don't see it happening, unless Pacquiao being the 8 division champ that he is fights at 154 with no catchweight agreement.

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Carmine Cas:

Editor Mike has always done a superb job, and in this interview it seems as if he kept Floyd's ego in check

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oubobcat:

I would love that fight as well. Guerrero is a very skilled fighter and would pose a unique challenge to Thurman. It would also be the right step at this point in Thurman's career. If he really wants to fight Floyd, lets see how he can fare against one of Floyd's recent challengers.

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brownsugar:

Would love that fight... Guerrero is skilled and determined...and stubborn. Hayman has no choice but to match his own fighters ...there is no other place to go.

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iriga city boy:

Bradley lost that fight.No question.No doubt.What i like with this boxer is,he does not shy away from a fight unlike Maywaether who has so many demands and excuses.

Mr.Hauser brings us nice articles on boxing.Kudos for this man.I think he got it wrong this time on who's gonna win on this fight.Didn't he predict Bradley over Pacquiao?



From:Iriga City Boy

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brownsugar:

Nice... This offers at least a semblance of a ray of hope.

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brownsugar:

"Super, super solid content today, EM & Co.



From this to Duva to Thurman. Nice reporting touch to get a reaction from Malignaggi -- this is what separates the pros from the "nos."



I've said it before, pound for pound, TSS has some of the most well-rounded analysis and best coverage, from frivolous rumors to fighter analysis to true, investigative, in-depth coverage from Hauser all the way down to the more academic breakdowns -- clad in pendulum graphics and western themes -- for the those sophisticated fight pundits that inhabit this site in relatively large numbers.



EM's lack of pomposity and that "know-it-all" attitude, that has become trademark for many boxing personalities, is very refreshing also.



Get Eric Raskin out the woodworks and I'll be doing cartwheels.



I like it, well done."




Agreed... and EM actually got Floyd to say something different.. which is rare given that Floyd finds new ways to give the same answer to nearly every question asked. (Questions he's had practice answering for more than a decade)

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SouthPawFlo:

I think the card has the big names but they guys on the B Side aren't as big, somebody is gonna get upset, my guess is that Broner has a tough time with Molina & Khan gets Stopped and Money May gets Rocked like he did against Mosley then cruises to a 8-4rd Unanimous Decision.....

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oubobcat:

I will not take anything serious about Golden Boy, Top Rank, Oscar working with one another (not counting purse bid fights) until it actually happens. Until contracts are signed and press conferences are held, it is all smoke and mirrors to me.

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oubobcat:

I was in Atlantic City for the Geale-Barker card last August and on the undercard there was a fighter named John Williams who was facing Yordenis Ugas. Williams nickname (at least what was introduced) was "The Boxing Poet." That was one of the most unique boxing nicknames I ever heard. He ended up losing a very clear lopsided decision to Ugas. I saw him on the concourse in between fights and overheard him angrily complaining in a not very poetic nature to his handlers about the decision.

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brownsugar:

Great writing Dino,.. made me laugh,... but I have to disagree with you slightly about Marciano,

Or should I refer to him as Rocco Francis Marchegiano,... man,... when he unberthed "Suzie Q", all you had to do was queue the Fat Lady to sing her song... preferably it would have been a lullabye.

Even though Ali was the usual number #1 topic of discussion in my dads barbershop. Whenever the name of the Rock was mentioned it was spoke with hushed tones of reverence. and while I have nothing but the utmost respect for the accomplishments of the Brockton Bomber. The average age of his competition was 40 years old.

Takes nothing away from his skills, determination, and debilitating power in the ring. But I think the Rock would've have a tough time with a guy like Eddie Chambers. Similarly Joe Louis would have been stopped by Holyfield before the 5th round, I think Holy would have swarmed him. Again,... not taking away from the ICONs who helped elevated boxing to the soaring heights it would reach in the 60's and 70's, and who were indeed the best of their day. But a lot has changed since then... especially boxing styles. IMHO, ...correct me if I'm wrong.

Regarding the Cruiserweights,... I think Bob Foster could have done well had that division existed during his time.

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deepwater2:

The card is stacked alright.
With mismatches.
The love fight has no odds.
Mayweather 12-1 fav.
Boner 30-1 fav
Khan 3-1 fav. ( which is decent compared to the others.)

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deepwater2:

Boston strong boy - John L.

The toy bulldog - MW

The Manassa Mauler- Jack Dempsey

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deepwater2:

I have to respect Thurman. He deserves it from his work in the ring. He has grown on me. He doesn't look special but he has good basics, good power and heart. He will do what he is supposed to do in this fight and get the KO. I will DVR this fight. I think Floyd out skills him pretty easy though. Thurman vs R Guerrero ?

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oubobcat:

"I like Thurman, He speaks with so much confidence, I wouldn't be surprised if he single handedly made the lisp something to be envied, like the way it became stylish to be overweight in the late 80's. (sadly I was forced to attend speech class in elementary to get rid of my own

Thurman is capable of moving, punching, or a combination of both for 3 minutes of every round until the final bell, Like Porter he has vision and goals, but unlike any other contenders with the exception of perhaps GGG, Kovalev, and the few I may have overlooked, Thurman calls out every single fighter in the division, None of that " I gotta check with my promoter " stuff. Thurman calls your name loud and with conviction on television and he means it.

Al Hay has the best welterweight stable in boxing. I only wish Bradley could get some of those challenges (Paq like Floyd will be matched with the older proven ICONs whenever possible until they retire shortly) Nonetheless, 147 has become interesting again."


I agree, I like Thurman a lot. He is exciting and takes risks in the ring. He is also not afraid to call anyone out.

He is still a young fighter and as such I do wish he'd fight more often. He still has some developing to do inside the ring and needs to hone his skills. I am not really a fan of the Diaz fight in that I don't think Thurman is going to take a lot away from it. If he were fighting five or six times this year and this was a true stay busy fight, I'd have no issue. But he is not and I'd rather see him face someone who may push him a little and someone he can take something away from other than a quick blow out which is what I think will happen here.

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deepwater2:

"I don't think it's Ariza's knowledge of strength and conditioning that's lacking, it was more of a case of Ariza grandstanding and trying to take all the credit for Manny's success that cast him in the negative light. It seems Ariza has learned from that lesson and will let the results of his training and nutrition techniques speak on his behalf in the ring instead.

Ariza does surprise me... Just when it appears he's nothing more than a crude egotistical, glory hound he shows another side. I don't think he's as one dimensional as the media portrays him to be."




Ariza needs to keep his feet to himself. If any boxer or trainer reads Mackie Shilestones training books they will have all the training science they need. Mackie really lays out the nutrition,the speed and reaction drills,endurance,resistance training,supplementation in a great easy to read style. As far as illegal substances the TMT has a history of failed drug tests.

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brownsugar:

I don't think it's Ariza's knowledge of strength and conditioning that's lacking, it was more of a case of Ariza grandstanding and trying to take all the credit for Manny's success that cast him in the negative light. It seems Ariza has learned from that lesson and will let the results of his training and nutrition techniques speak on his behalf in the ring instead.
Ariza does surprise me... Just when it appears he's nothing more than a crude egotistical, glory hound he shows another side. I don't think he's as one dimensional as the media portrays him to be.

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brownsugar:

I like Thurman, He speaks with so much confidence, I wouldn't be surprised if he single handedly made the lisp something to be envied, like the way it became stylish to be overweight in the late 80's. (sadly I was forced to attend speech class in elementary to get rid of my own

Thurman is capable of moving, punching, or a combination of both for 3 minutes of every round until the final bell, Like Porter he has vision and goals, but unlike any other contenders with the exception of perhaps GGG, Kovalev, and the few I may have overlooked, Thurman calls out every single fighter in the division, None of that " I gotta check with my promoter " stuff. Thurman calls your name loud and with conviction on television and he means it.

Al Hay has the best welterweight stable in boxing. I only wish Bradley could get some of those challenges (Paq like Floyd will be matched with the older proven ICONs whenever possible until they retire shortly) Nonetheless, 147 has become interesting again.

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brownsugar:

great posts from everyone, it love it......... the name - Chico the "Bee" Rodriguez will remain with me forever, I guess the name isn't that spectacular, but if you ever met the diminutive Puerto Rican he would regale you for hours with his many adventures in the world of boxing. He was past his prime when he spied me reading a Ring magazine at a drug store, once we started talking boxing, I already knew the rest of the afternoon was shot...

Whenever I was short on cash, I had no shame in standing by the newsstand for literally hours reading the Ring and other boxing mags from cover to cover until either my feet started aching or the store clerk asked me to leave. Chico could usually be found by the boxing section, pretending to be doing nothing while scopings out the mags...... Chico actually resembled a bee and was full of kenetic energy... a non-stop dynamo of a talker (and boxer in his prime) who made sure you called him by his entire name... "Chico the Bee Rodriguez". I though he was going to ask me to practice saying it... he was based out of Columbus Ohio at the time. I'm sure RG knows him.

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amayseng:

I think Porter will be Floyds toughest fight, from the GB stable that is.

Porter is like a tougher more violent JLC and at this age Floyd would be in a run for his money for 12 rounds.


However, Floyd wont take that challenge of course.

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Radam G:

"We must thank Al Haymon.

Still I'm glad to see Thurman and Lucas they'll make it a good night for sure even with the opponents their facing.

Thurman at 147 beats almost anyone in the division, and I think he gives Floyd his toughest fight out of anyone. I want to see that fight the most, because he can punch, he's fast, he's got good intuition, has good foot work. He's not the full cookie, but he's still young and hasn't reached his prime yet. I think Floyd will sidestep and stay clear of Thurman, as he does with any real challenger."


There is no demand or money in fighting Thurman. I believe Money May easily destroy him. We are definitely on a different page about him. Holla!

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The Commish:

Oh, I forgot to mention the name I have always used for Mike Tyson, other than "Iron." From the time he turned pro in 1985, I called him "Catskill Thunder." In writer Peter Heller's book on Tyson--"Bad Intentions: The Mike Tyson Story"--Heller makes mention of my nickname. Tyson always tells me he loved it when he heard me call him that on TV.

The Good Doctor: My show is on SiriusXM Radio every Monday & Friday from 6-8pm (ET) on channel 92 and on the SiriusXM app. My co-host is former heavyweight contender "Gentleman" Gerry Cooney.

"Gentleman" Gerry. See. There's another nickname!

-Randy G.

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Skibbz:

"I agree for the most part. Collazo vs khan might be the most competitive.Lets check the bookies.
Thurman 16-1 fav.
Lucas 15-1 fav.
jeez
Mayweather 12-1 fav
Boner 30-1 fav.
Khan 3-1 fav.
The moral of the story is all these fights are non competitive except the Khan even though 3-1 isnt even.
At least with Thurman and Lucas they will probably put their opponents unconscious.
Showtime boxing, the home of house fighters having an advantage."


We must thank Al Haymon.

Still I'm glad to see Thurman and Lucas they'll make it a good night for sure even with the opponents their facing.

Thurman at 147 beats almost anyone in the division, and I think he gives Floyd his toughest fight out of anyone. I want to see that fight the most, because he can punch, he's fast, he's got good intuition, has good foot work. He's not the full cookie, but he's still young and hasn't reached his prime yet. I think Floyd will sidestep and stay clear of Thurman, as he does with any real challenger.

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dino da vinci:

"Bob F is one of the all time greats. A mw champ, Light heavy champ and heavy champ. I have him right behind two of my favorites Mickey Walker and Harry Greb. These lil guys were knocking down heavyweights!"

And he did it in reverse! You don't see that very often now do ya?

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Skibbz:

Another one just came to me as I posted, Michael "Second to" Nunn!

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Skibbz:

Manos De Piedra has to be up there. Smokin' too. What about Juaan "The Hispanic Causin' Panic" Luzcano. Vinny Paz aka "The Pazmanian Devil".

RG dropped a whole lot of nice ones, those are a few I can think of. I guess my current favourite is the Siberian Rocky (or as I prefer to call him the Mansi Mauler).

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Radam G:

"Randy, did Mike really say that?? When did he say it? I'm not shocked because that sounds like something Cus would tell him, just like the Foreman situation.

Larry was a nice, crafty, cagey, wiley, cerebral in-ring operator with some awesome defense and some sneaky, freaky-deaky inside offense.

A lot of Floyd's little veteran tricks on the inside come from Larry Holmes.

Watching closely, I personally thought he beat Evander Holyfoeld rather handily as an old man.

That brings forth a question I've been pondering...how come the fighters that came up during the '70s and before seemed to have such sophisticated skill sets?

I mean, a guy like Jimmy Young would rule heavyweight today.

Even a guy who was considered "skill-less" had so many veteran moves, traps, and what have you that he TO THIS DAY can beat his professional fighting son. (Archie Moore taught him well.)

Why is that?"


Because New Jack stinks. And with shortcuts of PEDs and roids, it tinks. Holla!

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Radam G:

_____ "Kid Rapido" _____! Hahaha! Jerry "The Mauler of Mass." Lucas. "Chop chip" Corey. "Michigan Ice" McCory. "The Viper" Forrest. "Haymaker" Hate. Tyson "Fist of" Fury. "Old Mongoose" Moorer. "Master of Misery" Moore. "Scrap Iron" Johnson. "Neon" Leon Sprinks. "Louisville Lip" Clay. "The Night Train" Liston. "Stepper" Harris. "The Radar" Benitez. "Too Sharp" Johnson. "Hawk Time" Pryor. "Macho Time" Camacho. "Too Tall" Johnson. "Iron" Mike Tyson. "Smokin'" Joe Frazier. Holla!

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