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The Shadow:

"Definitely it was a misuderstanding. You need to get more in tune with the boksing moon. He was not trying to be a goon. He was coming down to Florida soon. Boxers are facetious and even sarcastic all in play. So all is okay.

You guys can get on your sparring session and then download it here in the Universe. Nobody is trying to tell anybody that he will be on his last ride -- in a hearse. Hehehe! Holla!"


Well if that is the case, then I will buy him a beer, shake his hand, look him in his eyes like a man and tell him I'm sorry for misunderstanding boxing discourse.

But realistically, Radam, what does he gain from sparring someone he just dismissed who's 50 pounds lighter with a fraction of the experience?

Based on his tone, did it sound to you like he wanted to do me a favor?

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Radam G:

"That said, if I hurt your feelings, I apologize. Seriously. It's not that serious. And I do want you on my good side because I do appreciate your good boxing-related advice.

I also don't want to get hurt ;)"


Hehehehe! Chillax, chillax! Where is the chopping axe? Now both of you can team up and do some old skool wood chopping. And get on your fists bopping. Yall know me! I'm down wif O-P-P!

"I also don't want to get hurt" is classic. Holla!

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The Shadow:

What are you guys' prediction for the fight?

Maidana KO? Mayweather TKO? Mayweather UD12?

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The Shadow:

That said, if I hurt your feelings, I apologize. Seriously. It's not that serious. And I do want you on my good side because I do appreciate your good boxing-related advice.

I also don't want to get hurt ;)

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The Shadow:

"You are way out of line. Calling me names and a murderer is low. I asked if you wanted to spar because I will be in Miami. I thought it would be cool if we did and you are acting like a hysterical person. I thought you were training for a national championship why wouldn't you want to spar?.I never said I would beat you up and I never said anything that could be called bullying.. I said we can spar and you and your coach can check it out.Anyway I don't think Mike would ban me for suggesting a spar between two boxers and that you can bring your coach to a public gym near you. Boxers box and spar sorry for the misunderstanding. I take your answer as no. This forum is big enough for both of us so keep your insults and low blows to yourself."

I wasn't the one making threats or hurling insults, bro. You know exactly what you said and you know exactly what you meant. Don't backtrack because you calmed down. Just own it, man.

As for the "name calling," I simply responded in kind. No lower blows than what you tried to shoot at me.

I just addressed you exactly how you addressed me. Have no desire to insult you or throw "low blows." Please. I have enough material on here to intellectually TKO you from now till the end of time.

You suggested you wanted to beat me up for everyone to see, when you have posted on here that you nearly beat someone to death because you lost your cool.

How else am I going to take it? That you wanted to help me in the quest you just mocked? Come on.

But if you indeed propose a sparring session for the purpose of aiding me in my quest -- and lets face it, how much do you benefit from sparring someone 50 pounds lighter with a fraction of the experience?? -- then I think that was a very nice, considerate gesture.

But based on the context and your antagonistic tone, I HIGHLY DOUBT that was the case.

But if that is indeed what you meant, then I think that was a nice gesture and I would welcome it and appreciate it (so that's a yes, tough guy). I would even take you out and show you Miami. I'm an excellent host.

But just cut the bullsh*t. You know what you said and you know what you meant. You lost your cool. Fair enough. It happens. But don't try to weasel your way out of it. That's so lame.

Anything else you want to say about this, you can message me in private and you and I can deal with it like adults. It's not fair to the rest of the forum. I'm not sure a cyber threat (lol) warrants a phone call but if that is what it takes, I would even do that, too.

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Radam G:

"I think Shadow got his days mixed up.. It is NO longer April Fools!!"

Hehehe! No doubt about it! Haha! Holla!

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Radam G:

"Lol I'm not, Skibbz. I'm trying to be civil. Cyber threats are super corny.



If anything, that phone number is going to be bombarded by telemarketers after web scrapers have gotten a hold of it. LOL



If I have misunderstood and he in fact wants to work with me in my quest, then I'd be honored to jump in the ring with him. In fact, I'd appreciate it from the bottom of my heart. :)"




Definitely it was a misuderstanding. You need to get more in tune with the boksing moon. He was not trying to be a goon. He was coming down to Florida soon. Boxers are facetious and even sarcastic all in play. So all is okay.



You guys can get on your sparring session and then download it here in the Universe. Nobody is trying to tell anybody that he will be on his last ride -- in a hearse. Hehehe! Holla!

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deepwater2:

"Lol I'm not, Skibbz. I'm trying to be civil. Cyber threats are super corny.



If anything, that phone number is going to be bombarded by telemarketers after web scrapers have gotten a hold of it. LOL



If I have misunderstood and he in fact wants to work with me in my quest, then I'd be honored to jump in the ring with him. In fact, I'd appreciate it from the bottom of my heart. :)"




You are way out of line. Calling me names and a murderer is low. I asked if you wanted to spar because I will be in Miami. I thought it would be cool if we did and you are acting like a hysterical person. I thought you were training for a national championship why wouldn't you want to spar?.I never said I would beat you up and I never said anything that could be called bullying.. I said we can spar and you and your coach can check it out.Anyway I don't think Mike would ban me for suggesting a spar between two boxers and that you can bring your coach to a public gym near you. Boxers box and spar sorry for the misunderstanding. I take your answer as no. This forum is big enough for both of us so keep your insults and low blows to yourself.

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Radam G:

Nice! Nuff said! Holla!

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The Shadow:

You will be an epic moderator.



And I for one will be looking forward to more output from you.



Wouldn't even mind a shameless book plug or two!

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The Shadow:

"I think Shadow got his days mixed up.. It is NO longer April Fools!!"

Hehehehe :)

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The Shadow:

"It's roughly $20 a month, and for that we get every PPV, almost every fight shown in the country and major cards from around the world. On top of the actual fights there's round the clock programs incuding documentaries, interviews, boxing talk shows and much much more. It's really a small price to pay for all that they give. If you note that in the UK most people happily shell out for SkyTV/Virgin or BT, then this channel is nothing more to expect from a passionate boxing fan.

Still who isn't happy to pay less for more?"


Yeah, that's what I'm talking about right there! Seems like excellent value.

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amayseng:

I think Shadow got his days mixed up.. It is NO longer April Fools!!

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The Shadow:

"Calm it lads no good ever came from exchanging heated words on a boxing forum. Jab for laughs but let's not be stepping in behind it eh?"

Lol I'm not, Skibbz. I'm trying to be civil. Cyber threats are super corny.

If anything, that phone number is going to be bombarded by telemarketers after web scrapers have gotten a hold of it. LOL

If I have misunderstood and he in fact wants to work with me in my quest, then I'd be honored to jump in the ring with him. In fact, I'd appreciate it from the bottom of my heart. :)

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Skibbz:

"Mayweather would be the favorite, no doubt. But stranger things have happened, Skibbz!"

Yeah man but I personally don't see how it would happen. How can you picture Floyd, the guy who in 100 years from now they will hail as being one of the best defensive fighters ever to have graced the sport, to get caught clean and counted out? I agree strange things happen all the time, especially in this sport... But there's a realistic view and a fantastical view.. Maybe you could explain it how you see it cause I can't picture it for the life of me.

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Skibbz:

Calm it lads no good ever came from exchanging heated words on a boxing forum. Jab for laughs but let's not be stepping in behind it eh?

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Skibbz:

"I feel if you already pay a premium, PPV should be included. If it was all free TV, then I'd understand. But fans have to pay, what, $30/month for boxing?

It is a little much. They should revisit the business model.

WWE just released their PPV figures for Wrestlemania after having made all their PPVs available through their network as part of the $9.99 monthly subscription.

While they still offered PPV through cable providers, they naturally expected that to take a hit. While they did take about a 60% hit in PPV buys, they more than made up for it with the subscription, totaling over a million domestic households for Wrestlemania for the first time ever.

They still made their money and then some and fans got Wrestlemania and every PPV, which will still be offered through cable/satellite, for just $9.99.

More value for fans. More savings for fans. And the big business still wins anyhow.

I think that's now it should be. These guys are much smarter than we are, or at least than I am, so they should be able to make it work.

Get it done."


It's roughly $20 a month, and for that we get every PPV, almost every fight shown in the country and major cards from around the world. On top of the actual fights there's round the clock programs incuding documentaries, interviews, boxing talk shows and much much more. It's really a small price to pay for all that they give. If you note that in the UK most people happily shell out for SkyTV/Virgin or BT, then this channel is nothing more to expect from a passionate boxing fan.

Still who isn't happy to pay less for more?

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The Shadow:

"Fortunately, we have BoxNation... we pay a monthly subscription, and no PPV costs. And we got Buncy!"

I feel if you already pay a premium, PPV should be included. If it was all free TV, then I'd understand. But fans have to pay, what, $30/month for boxing?

It is a little much. They should revisit the business model.

WWE just released their PPV figures for Wrestlemania after having made all their PPVs available through their network as part of the $9.99 monthly subscription.

While they still offered PPV through cable providers, they naturally expected that to take a hit. While they did take about a 60% hit in PPV buys, they more than made up for it with the subscription, totaling over a million domestic households for Wrestlemania for the first time ever.

They still made their money and then some and fans got Wrestlemania and every PPV, which will still be offered through cable/satellite, for just $9.99.

More value for fans. More savings for fans. And the big business still wins anyhow.

I think that's now it should be. These guys are much smarter than we are, or at least than I am, so they should be able to make it work.

Get it done.

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The Shadow:

"If his hand is down by his hip, Floyd will take the opportunity to remind him to raise it to cheek. If he still doesn't get the idea then Floyd will keep banging until the message rings clear. When you first posted this thread I thought it was a joke and i'm still not convinced you're being serious...

You yourself have said that Floyd's eyesight is second to none, his peripheral vision is amongst the best of any athlete and he knows where to look almost instinctively. Suddenly the guy that can't knock out my gran will fire a punch that the grand master won't see nor expect and it's all over? I'm not getting it.

If this is an attempt at some tongue in cheek humour i think it's rather off. Should have posted it in Random Topics."


Mayweather would be the favorite, no doubt. But stranger things have happened, Skibbz!

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The Shadow:

"Hey thanks for the explanation. I would of thought you would have given 5 links to back up whatever sniff means by now. I never really payed attention to your posts until you said you were going for a national championship. So I though you were dude that was boxing. Either way you have never given an update on your training or your fight schedule so I wonder whats up with that.
I will be visiting my old coach and friend at the end of June down in Miami, I say lets do a few rounds of sparring and we can even put the video on here for everyone to see. I think it would be a first for the site. Anyway you can stop by the gym with your coach and check it out. Milton says we can use this gym
1901 NW Miami Ct, Miami, FL 33136
(305) 381-0325
or Miami PAL"


Ooooohhhhh you want to beat me up now for everyone to see, huh? Nice. Don't get banned again, bro. We'll be calling you DW3.

*sniff*

I'm still training, thanks for asking. Mostly cardio since I'm on the road for reasons I can't disclose here. Been improving my miles, though I don't like running. Working on footwork and coordination as much as I can. Shadowboxing and body workouts daily. I'm down to 145 and my body looks better.

And I appreciate your input and advice. Haven't had a chance to try the tire drill yet but look forward to doing so.

And by the way, aren't you that criminal that almost killed somebody? I wonder what's up with that.

And by the way, isn't it boxing etiquette not to take advantage of those with less experience?

You just sound like the biggest douchebag in the world. Other than that, I'm not going to address or even dignify pseudo-threats from an attempted murderer.

To the rest, sorry guys for the momentary lack of sophistication.

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Skibbz:

"...once he launches that right missile from the hip with nasty intentions, he will catch Floyd flush.

Yes, Floyd reacted the right way versus Mosley. But how will he react when struck by Magic Malignaggi?

Before doubt is cast, always remember this: a grown man, when motivated, can do serious damage with his fists.

Especially a trained, highly skilled martial artist. Case in point? Watch how light-punching Tim Bradley nearly separated iron chin Manny Pacquiao from his senses with his straight hand.

You think Bradley is a harder puncher than Paulie? Ha! The mere notion is laughable.

Paulie got that power.

And that power is Money Mayweather's Achilles heel."


If his hand is down by his hip, Floyd will take the opportunity to remind him to raise it to cheek. If he still doesn't get the idea then Floyd will keep banging until the message rings clear. When you first posted this thread I thought it was a joke and i'm still not convinced you're being serious...

You yourself have said that Floyd's eyesight is second to none, his peripheral vision is amongst the best of any athlete and he knows where to look almost instinctively. Suddenly the guy that can't knock out my gran will fire a punch that the grand master won't see nor expect and it's all over? I'm not getting it.

If this is an attempt at some tongue in cheek humour i think it's rather off. Should have posted it in Random Topics.

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Domenic:

Garbage PPV undercards is a fait accompli. Thomas Hauser wrote extensively on the subject a few years ago in a year-end piece (more than one from what I recall), and he was spot on. The mid-90's PPV cards were the salad days compared to what you get now. I watched Saturday's fight at a friend's house, and people literally weren't even watching the preliminary fights. They'd walk by, look quickly at the tv, and say quizzically 'this isn't it, right?' It's odd because you'd think boxing, and HBO, would say look, we've got a MASSIVE audience here tonight, so let's put our best foot forward with a terrific card (which could then lead to greater exposure for the fighters involved and future PPV sales, etc), but they just refuse to. The days of RJJ-Hopkins on the undercard of a regular HBO card are dead and buried forever.

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Skibbz:

"What about the money under the table. Hehehe! The step aside loot and all of that poop. Haha!

Good one, tR. I need a pair of socks and a knee brace. Last time time, I hurt my doggs. This time, it was my leg calf. And now, I feel my left knee going out. :D Holla!"


RG clearing the muddy waters as always!! Hahaha made me chuckle.

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Skibbz:

Fortunately, we have BoxNation... we pay a monthly subscription, and no PPV costs. And we got Buncy!

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Skibbz:

"Maidana knows he will probably miss the first punch...but once he traps his opponent, Maidana is likely to land the 3rd, 5th, or 6th punch. If his opponent tries to fire back... Maidana answers back with maniacal glee......ecstatic to trade in a gamble that he will get their first.

Make no mistake ... From the opening bell Maidana seeks to do one thing, close the distance, his second objective is to make contact, ....just wanting to touch his opponent.
Thirdly on the list ..... Connect. ......He wants to hit you with a punch thrown from Argentina.

No further complexity needed or taken by the South American Whirlwind.

If that doesn't work he will take a deep breath between rounds .... Bite down hard on his mouthpiece and and just try harder the next round.

I think this will be an interesting fight where Mayweather will go into extermination mode. Maidana is not the kind of fighter you want to let hang around for 12 rounds if you have a better option."


I like that post Suges. It's very simple, and to try over-complicate the fight for maidana will have him lose by a wider margin than what most people already presume he will.

He needs to keep his hands high, expect to get hit with fast punches from angles he may not be used to and most importantly make it ugly. Floyd doesn't like ugly. Take note from Bradley's last performance and not go looking for the KO, but instead hope to inflict damage with every punch. Get knocked down? So what. Isn't that what has made Maidana a bigger name, his ability to come back stronger from touching the canvas?

And by going for his joints you won't be scoring, but you will be hurting. We already know Floyd has hurt his elbow in the last fight, so keep banging at the joints at every oppurtunity. The whole body above the waist is a target at the end of the day..

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deepwater2:

I feel you, I have the triple play from Optimum and it adds up. I loved that Vasquez fight ,look forward to seeing him again. My accountant writes off everything, Can't you write off the ppv as a business expense? I won't dish out the 74.99 for the Floyd fight. I will catch it on bootleg internet or a round by round and catch the replay. I will never accept anything less then a perfect steak, I rate the Old Homestead better then Peter Luger and I never thought I would be saying that.

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deepwater2:

"I'll counter it with a *sniff*"

Hey thanks for the explanation. I would of thought you would have given 5 links to back up whatever sniff means by now. I never really payed attention to your posts until you said you were going for a national championship. So I though you were dude that was boxing. Either way you have never given an update on your training or your fight schedule so I wonder whats up with that.
I will be visiting my old coach and friend at the end of June down in Miami, I say lets do a few rounds of sparring and we can even put the video on here for everyone to see. I think it would be a first for the site. Anyway you can stop by the gym with your coach and check it out. Milton says we can use this gym
1901 NW Miami Ct, Miami, FL 33136
(305) 381-0325
or Miami PAL

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dino da vinci:

"Thanks Deep, and will do EM.



Winners will be announced tomorrow evening, Boxing Channel first as the undercard, then the TSS winners as the main event. Unless I have a knee infection, that could prevent my ability to type.



Just effing with you Randy!"




You're a twisted fella, Signore Roast!

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ArneK.:

I'm reminded that way back in the day when Jews had a higher profile in boxing -- as fighters, spectators, and cornermen -- there were a number of King Solomons' floating around. One fellow billed as King Solomon was exposed as a non-Jewish Panamanian. Back in those days, most local boxing promoters also promoted grunt-and-groan wrestling shows. They had no hesitation in re-inventing a man's lineage if it would sell a few more tickets.

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ArneK.:

Nice piece. Have always been interested in the geography of boxing. One of the weirdest books in my library of boxing books is by an ex-vaudevillian turned Washington D.C. burlesque house manager: Jimmy Lake. After D.C. legalized boxing in 1934, Lake became the preeminent ring announcer in the area, holding that distinction for more than two decades. He did Louis-Baer I. If you wanted to expand this list to a six-pack, Lake (were he still alive) would nominate the 1939 featherweight title fight at Griffith Stadium between Joey Archibald and Harry Jeffra. Archibald, who was from Providence, was managed by Al Weill and trained by Charlie Goldman, the fellows who would go on to guide the career of Rocky Marciano. Their guy Archibald won a split decision that was so unpopular that there was nearly a riot. The ref, by the way, was the great Benny Leonard, the former lightweight champion. One can be excused for omitting this fight from a list of significant D.C. fights. As champions go, Archibald was a flash in the pan. He lost 26 of his last 32 fights. But for a very brief time he was the generally recognized featherweight champ -- and it happened in Washington DC.

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