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the Roast:

Today is the 14th. Score tomorrow and put up winners Tuesday. It's science.

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Domenic:

A Robert Curtis sighting is precious metal stuff! Worthy of a 'Toonoy.'

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brownsugar:

"Hey man, it must be hard to see your favorite coming to an end but at least you recognize it and see reality. Floyd had a great run. One of the best but not tbe. It was fun while it lasted.

I had all my chips on Edwin Valero at one point."


Floyd had enough physically to get by.... But he was having some serious issues. Throwing punches and pulling back and inch too soon.
His feet not coordinated with his hands.
He also got caught with the same punch that put Pac too sleep... Only Marcos didn't put everything on it.
Reaching out from long range to clinch.
He definitely didn't look like he was having fun.
And a host of other tiny little things
Not noticeable unless you've seen a lot of Floyds fights.
Still he outclassed MM.
But he seems more vulnerable than ever.
Athletes come and go
Its the natural progression of the sportsman's life.
Someone else comes to fill the void.
I'll survive and so will boxing.

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Robert Curtis:

75 bucks is too much for PPV. Unless I'm hosting a large party, this is a criminal abuse of the boxing fan's pocket book.

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DaveB:

If Maidana bit Floyd, Floyd deserved it. Floyd is a dirty fighter. At least Hopkins admits he will do what he can get away with. Floyd tries to make you believe he is on the up and up while doing his dirty tactics. He is an enigma. I counted the number of clinches in round 9. There were 10. And I think that round was representative of the whole fight. Like many have said Bayless was anticipating those clinches before they ever happened while the fighters were still punching and then after they were still able to punch their way out of it. I thought his officiating was horrible last night. Maidana doesn't have the best jab in the world and I do give Floyd credit for using his legs and not getting caught on the ropes. His hands are fast and he counters well. He miscalculated some and got caught a few times especially at the end of the third round. Maidana is terrible at cutting off the ring. It will take a good fundamental fighter to beat Floyd but Floyd's window is starting to close some. But if he chooses the right guys to fight he will go back to looking good. One last thing, I think Robert Garcia and Virgil Hunter are both way overrated as trainers and strategists. They are more like father figures.

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The Commish:

"For me question has become who is better GGG or Rigondeaux? I can see both winning the fight. In my book they scrap it out for the top spot."


That's great, but give us your 1-10!

-Randy G.

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SouthPawFlo:

When it's all said and done, based on what he's done in the ring, Floyd has to be mentioned as an All Time Great...





Defensively he's one of the best ever, and in 47 fights against professional fighters can you name 10 times when you felt he was in trouble????



And people talk about him fighting guys outta their prime, when exactly was Floyd in his "Prime" he's been years older than guys and still beat them 10-2, 9-3, 11-1.





He's beat South Paws, Big Punchers, guys who out weigh him by 10-20 mores on fight night but because it's Floyd he gets constant backlash

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SouthPawFlo:

I'll love to see a Cotto Rematch, Cotto gave him a good fight the first time and Freddie Roach in his corner will only make him better, that would be a PPV Blockbuster...







Keith Thurman isn't a big enough name yet and he doesn't have a "signature win" against a top welter weight yet and he doesn't have a big fan following either....





Amir Khan speed will give the old man some trouble in my opinion so I'll be happy to see that one, he needs to look stellar against someone in NOV-Dec first





Manny P. Will obviously be the biggest fight that can be made, but we gotta see how well he does in his fight against Chris Al, I think if manny looks impressive and KO's him the world will demand a Mayweather fight.





Danny G, Holla when he's a welterweight first.

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Skibbz:

For me question has become who is better GGG or Rigondeaux? I can see both winning the fight. In my book they scrap it out for the top spot.

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amayseng:

"I hear Amir Khan or Miguel Cotto. One of those two. But too soon to tell."

It will be Cotto in May for the mw title..

Cotto is off the rest of the year and Floyd will be taking a break until May.


Cotto being trained by Roach and Floyd going for the mw title will help hype and sell the card.

There is no one else to sell for showtime to make enough to pay floyd, unless he fights Pac

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amayseng:

"The point I'm trying to make is love him or hate him, Floyd is a Special Talent and if you judge him by what's he's done in the ring he's gotta be considered one of the best boxers of the last 25-30 years, if not of all time....



Nobody has been this good for this long....."


He is definitely a phenom. And I honestly due enjoy his style to an extent.

Just dont insult me with a 75$ fee to watch him pot shot and bicycle to an easy victory, on a poor card.


Having said that, he still found his way out of a few prime fighters, and to be calling himself the best ever is an insult to the true ATG's.

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amayseng:

"Replace Jones with Hopkins. Jones peaked at 34 and never again looked the same.

Also put Ali in there! Though he was faded he still beat top guys at 35 including Ernie Shavers."


didnt Jones beat Tarver at 35 just coming down from winning the hw title?


OF course Ali, among many many others.

that was off the top of my head

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SouthPawFlo:

The point I'm trying to make is love him or hate him, Floyd is a Special Talent and if you judge him by what's he's done in the ring he's gotta be considered one of the best boxers of the last 25-30 years, if not of all time....







Nobody has been this good for this long.....

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Froggy:

"Replace Jones with Hopkins. Jones peaked at 34 and never again looked the same.

Also put Ali in there! Though he was faded he still beat top guys at 35 including Ernie Shavers."


If we are going back more than 25 years, many would say Archie Moore should be at the top of the list ! I think there are probably 1 or 2 dozen more !

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The Shadow:

LOL what the heck?!



Anyway, since the issue of domestic violence was hot and heavy, guys, check out this article.



This dude had this woman calling the cops with all kinds of allegations against the boyfriend and they were going to take him in.



Pleading with the police, the guy maintained that the woman was full of sh*t. That she would beat herself and claim he did it.



So they told him to get evidence or else.



One time they're driving in the car and she's bitching about something. Dude is trying to get out of the situation.



"Stop it!" he yells. "You're NOT spending the night with me!"



The wretched woman tries to FRAME him by jumping out of the moving car.



She then goes, "Why did you push me out?"



This is the footage. Check this out. Women can be EVIL!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NceCt-E1EIU



After seeing the evidence, police dropped the claims.



Here's the full article. See for yourself. http://elitedaily.com/news/world/girl-jumps-moving-car-frames-boyfriend/722512/

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The Shadow:

"Calzaghe
Jones jr
Wlad
Vitali
Holyfield
JMM
Tarver
Toney
Sergio Martinez
Duran
SRL


just to name a few"


Replace Jones with Hopkins. Jones peaked at 34 and never again looked the same.

Also put Ali in there! Though he was faded he still beat top guys at 35 including Ernie Shavers.

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The Shadow:

"That's the million dollar question, or is 32 million !? Does he take the easiest road possible to tie Marciano's record or does he fight who the boxing fans want him to fight, and Showtime wants him to fight even more just to break even ?"

I hear Amir Khan or Miguel Cotto. One of those two. But too soon to tell.

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SouthPawFlo:

That's a pretty good list, some of the best fighters of the last 25 years are there....





That's pretty good company to be in....

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amayseng:

"Other than Floyd (and maybe The Alien B-Hop) what other fighters were able to perform at a high level fighting twice a year against Top Tier Opponents past the age of 35?????"

Calzaghe
Jones jr
Wlad
Vitali
Holyfield
JMM
Tarver
Toney
Sergio Martinez
Duran
SRL


just to name a few

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Froggy:

"Who's Next????"

That's the million dollar question, or is 32 million !? Does he take the easiest road possible to tie Marciano's record or does he fight who the boxing fans want him to fight, and Showtime wants him to fight even more just to break even ?

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SouthPawFlo:

Other than Floyd (and maybe The Alien B-Hop) what other fighters were able to perform at a high level fighting twice a year against Top Tier Opponents past the age of 35?????

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flackoguapo:

"Who's Next????"

Danny Garcia, Amir Khan, Kieth Thurman or Da Manny

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SouthPawFlo:

Who's Next????

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Froggy:

I made some changes after learning more about a boxer who was getting high praise on this forum a week or two ago ! 1-Floyd Mayweather Jr. 2-Andre Ward 3-Manny Pacquiao 4-Gillermo Rigondeaux 5-Gennady Golovkin 6-Roman Gonzalez 7-Timothy Bradley 8-Juan Manuel Marquez 9-Wladimir Klitschko 10-Sergey Kovalev , that's it !

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Radam G:

"Jab to the body
Right hand leads
Check Left Hooks
Constant Movement causing Maidana to reset
Staying off the ropes
Right uppercuts to the Body
Head Movement



Floyd being Floyd doing what it takes to win again. 47-0"


Elbows and forearms to da mug and throat.
Fingers the eyes through the gloves.
Wiping the taped laces on the mug.
Knee bumping.
Toe stepping and cup punching.
Leg tripping and hitting on the hips.
Pushing and stiff arming.
Pinching the mug, the neck and the side-belly blubber.
Pulling the opponent down behind the head.

YUP! Floyd being Floyd doing what it takes to win with TsOTT while calling the other pug "a dirty fighter." 47-0. I ain't hatin!'

Play dat funny music -- I mean play those optical illusions -- Floyd. Holla!

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The Shadow:

Watch him become a poster boy for BKB. The perfect platform for him. And he'll earn a nice buck, too!

HE was completely awful last night except for the last few rounds where he almost stopped John De La Riva.

And even then he should've let those hands go more! He had the dude out on his feet, yet no urgency, no power, no aggression, no speed.

In spite of having eight less pound to cut, Angulo looked flat and lethargic throughout, losing the majority -- if not all -- of the first eight rounds.

By the 9th, however, Angulo got a minor boost from his life coach and surrogate dad Virgil Hunter, who implored him to actually, you know, punch his opponent!

"If you let them stop it your career is over!" the "Fight Whisperer" said. "Go out there and knock him out! Do it for me, Alfredo! Knock him out!"

Following that epic pep talk, the Dog did let out a mild bark that shook the chinny De La Rue and turned his legs to jelly.

Still, it wasn't enough to surge Angulo to go for broke when it mattered most.

Frankly, he just looked like he sucked.

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SouthPawFlo:

Angulo is Done.....

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The Shadow:

"Please list your ratings, as I have not kept each of your individual selections, but rather, only the finished, compiled ratings. I could find each one of your posts if I went back and scoured the thread and each post, but that's absolutely time-consuming. Not even El Dude has that kind of time on his hands!

Shadow, as I will be seeing you in-studio on Monday, you can give me your ratings there. The rest of you can either post your picks here, in-box me or e-mail me at rgboxing@yahoo.com.

Now, get to work. You, too, Dude!

-Randy G."


Got it! I will find them and deliver them to you.

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SouthPawFlo:

Jab to the body

Right hand leads

Check Left Hooks

Constant Movement causing Maidana to reset

Staying off the ropes

Right uppercuts to the Body

Head Movement









Floyd being Floyd doing what it takes to win again. 47-0

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brownsugar:

"You're right about Emile Griffith, Radam, although Griffith wasn't killed on the spot by the spineless thugs.

A group of them pounded on the IBHOF'er as he walked out of a bar, a bit intoxicated. Apparently, a few of them had been in the bar and had seen an inebriated Griffith waving around a wad of bills, buying drinks for just about everybody. They were waiting for the ultra-kind and friendly Griffith when he left the bar alone around 3:00 a.m. They approached him and made small talk. When they saw how inebriated Griffith was, they struck.

They hit him on the head from behind with a metal pipe. As he buckled, they slammed punches into his face from several angles. They grabbed the semi-conscious fighter from behind and began choking him. Face punches reigned in. They threw him to the ground. They kicked him over and over. When Griffith lapsed into unconsciousness, the thugs stole his money, his rings and other jewelry he was wearing.

Then they ran and left the great Emile Griffith for dead, bleeding profusely from his head and facial wounds. I believe it was the bar owner who, after closing up, found Griffith and called 911. Rushed to a hospital, he lapsed into a coma. He remained in that state for days.

The like the great fighter he is, Griffith battled back from the brink of death. He came out of the coma, though partially paralyzed, unable to walk, talk or hold so much as a glass of water. With the help of his adopted son, Luis Griffith, and New York referee Wayne Kelly, Griffith learned to walk and talk again. His manual dexterity returned. However, the bashing he took to the head did tremendous damage. Griffith had trouble remembering names and faces.

One day, I, along with Wayne Kelly and Gil Clancy, Griffith's longtime manager, went to pick up Griffith at the apartment he shared with son Luis, in Hempstead, L.I. When he answered the knock at his door, Griffith looked at us with a blank stare.

"Yes, can I help you?" said Griffith.

The three of us laughed, but only quickly. Then we knew that Emile truly didn't recognize us. Clancy was Emile's surrogate father. Kelly and I had known Griffith for decades. He always greeted me with a "Hello, Commissioner." Now, he didn't recognize us.

"Come on, Emile, you know us," said Clancy. "Think."

The old champ stared at us.

"You guys look familiar," he said. "I know you from somewhere. I just can't think of where I know you from."

Griffith's memory came and went in his remaining years. In his last year, he was placed in a living facility and recognized nobody. He passed away in 2013.

One day, those thugs who beat him senseless are going to meet their maker. Hopefully, they are are sent to burn in the fires of hell forever.

-Randy G."


Awesome account Commish

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