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flackoguapo:

This fight reminds me of a Mexican, gangsta' pit-bull vs a Siberian Husky. And I love it. These dudes go to war and they both have awesome attitudes on the way they go about it. I can see Rios getting stopped but I do not see it being a one sided beat down as some are seeing it. Provo is there to be hit all fight long and Rios will graciously welcome your punches to his face so he can let his off. This can go back and forth early and the man with the most endurance of all kinds will come out winning by stoppage down the stretch. Too much will be taken out of the one who gets the worst of it early. Provo has an edge IMO because he is explosive and can get off his punches sooner. I also think he has better stamina than Rios has recently shown. Rios has a nasty left hook and seems to go an extra "all out" when he smells blood in the water. Hard to pick a winner in a fight with these types of styles.

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flackoguapo:

As for risking his 0, what do you want him to do? He's better than everyone else. There is no threat to his 0 unless he goes to 168 or 175 where he will probably get injured really badly even in victory. Is that what you want? Is that what he should do?



So you think $$May beats em all at 160 my dude? Idk.. There's some guys there that might catch em'. I think Floyd is one of the most genetically blessed TACTICIANS I've ever seen. He adjusts and then the fight pretty much looks the same all the way through after that. It may be true that he goes in without a game-plan, but once he finds his distance and spots, he strictly sticks to the game-plan and doesn't fight with anything else other than how to tactfully beat the opponent(no "pride" to enagage,nothin'). I was watching this Movie "13 Assassins" the other day and one Samurai was described by another as "Not so strong, not as shrewed. But he never gives up. Backed into a corner he won't budge. He won' overplay his hand. He's a man who beats you at the end." It just reminded me of Mayweather because his focus on the fight during the fight never seems to wander. I still do wish he would've fought the fights we all wanted and he has to take some blame for it. I'm not saying all the blame but with all the leverage he has he coulda' made something happen. The "TBE" thing has to stop. The sad part about it is that I would estimate 75% of the people I meet (outside the gym)under 21 think Mayweather is easily TBE. No bueno

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Radam G:

"So you like JMM eh RG?



:D"




I luv him like I would like lice in my armpits. Hehehe! :D Holla!

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stormcentre:

There's no doubt Rigo is brilliant.

Rarely does all the prerequisites for a complete fighter/boxer come packaged as neatly and as efficiently as they are in Rigo.

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stormcentre:

"I finally got to see the Porter-Brook fight and it was close. Porter is a strong, aggressive, quick fighter. I had heard of Brook before but never seen him box. Kell Brook is good and he displayed alot of patience and skill while connecting in his target shots. He did blend in his holding, but he made up for that with his precision shots. The fight was close and l'd like to see a rematch. Shawn Porter will be back.ln the meantime, l like to see that fight between Keith Thurman and Kell Brook, Thurman will take care of Brook!"



Good straight forward observations and comments Denise.



Welcome to the forum.

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stormcentre:

"D-riders for Juan Manuel Marquez are already calling out "Special K."



They ought to STFU, because Special K will ramroded JMM. And If Hulkquez shows up, Special K will beat the roid zits and pimples off his arse, bust up his mug, break his nose and a few ribs and whup his full-of-dat-syet arse. Holla!"




So you like JMM eh RG?



:D

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The Shadow:

"And to a great extent this (particularly in the context of who you fight and how tough the competition is) is why professional boxing is sometimes not as tough as (so called) amateur boxing; particularly at state and country levels.

In "amateur" boxing you don't get to pick who your opponents are and most are not managed.

Imagine Usain Bolt, as a professional athlete, cheery picking who he wanted to run against and then telling everyone he's TBE!!!"


Exactly. The true competition takes place in the amateurs. Gotta be ready for any style at any given time.

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stormcentre:

"Of course. I love your posts and wish you would post more!



Yes, that premise is by and large correct. While Showtime does have some right of refusal, it's not like he can just go fight Selcuk Aydin -- not if he wants those purses, anyway.



(There's a large misconception about these purses. Showtime's function in the contract is ADVANCING the fight night purse. They then recoup the principal through PPV -- hence the "revenue sharing" agreement they vaguely reported. Which is practically what HBO did. But they just committed to doing it for six fights. SHO doesn't pay for the undercard or anything like that. If you want to look at it another way, it's actually a similar deal framework to what Mayweather offered Pacquiao in early 2012.)



At this stage of his career, his chief objective is to maximize revenues. Whoever's available, able and willing that they feel can garner the most buys is the one they will go with.



Golovkin is a darling among hardcores but until he at least has a fight at 154, there is no point in even discussing it from a sporting standpoint.



Bernard Hopkins insists he can make 160 and has publicly challenged Golovkin for a while now, over a year. Why aren't the writers pushing that?



From a business standpoint, Golovkin's team is simply using the oldest trick in the book: tie your name to the top guy and have the fans run with it.



They know as well as anyone that contracts make it a non-starter. If they didn't they wouldn't have resigned without even fielding offers from Showtime.



FWIW, this is one of the same reasons Mayweather gets furious with other promoters that hatch themselves onto his name knowing damn well that a fight can't be made.



One such example was Lou DiBella -- shortly after the whole 50/50 nonsense with Mayweather and Pacquiao -- completely trolled the media by stating he would give Mayweather 80% of the pot.



I know my fellow Crimson is no fool so I can only assume he thinks the public is. Not even Cotto got 20%.



DiBella knows for a fact that this deal wouldn't even be considered. But he also knows the public will run with any slightest indication of Mayweather ducking so he just reaped the benefits of the publicity it gave him, DBE and Martinez.



And you also saw what happened when Andre Ward called K2's "anyone up to 175" bluff. Only then did they clarify their position and admitted that Golovkin, after all, too is a prizefighter."






And to a great extent this (particularly in the context of who you fight and how tough the competition is) is why professional boxing is sometimes not as tough as (so called) amateur boxing; particularly at state and country levels.



In "amateur" boxing you don't get to pick who your opponents are and most are not managed.



Imagine Usain Bolt, as a professional athlete, cheery picking who he wanted to run against and then telling everyone he's TBE!!!

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The Shadow:

"It is gonna' take some time for me to get used to BKB fighting.

But I will keep an open mind.

-Randy G."


Commish, it has some interesting angles to it.

Considering the budgets, imagine some MMA guys joining in to take on boxers, playing up that whole "MMA vs. Boxing" narrative that always promises to get ink.

Or what about some of these matchups:

Ricardo Mayorga vs. Rosado for the BKB title
Kimbo Slice vs. Audley Harrison or some other faded heavyweight with a bit of a name
Kimbo Slice vs. Chael Sonnen
Tony Thompson vs. Shannon Briggs
Dereck Chisora vs. Shannon Briggs (after two more defeats, Chisora will likely be their heavyweight poster boy)
Roy Jones vs. Anderson Silva (holy sh*t!)
Randall Bailey vs. Jesus Soto-Krash or anyone
Mike Alvarado vs. Randall Bailey
Michael Katsidis vs. Juan Diaz
Jorge Linares vs. Daniel Estrada

I'm sure either of these can be had for reasonable six-figure sums.

I would watch this at the edge of my seat with popcorn solidly in tow!

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The Shadow:

"Great Article! Frank really knows his boxing history."

He sure does.

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Greatest's Greatest Fan:

Great Article! Frank really knows his boxing history.

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The Shadow:

Doesn't it kinda look like this? I almost can't tell the difference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHxIwI19PlY

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The Shadow:

"You got me thinking breakfast and threw off *what I started to write about on this thread in the first place: *Mike Jones.

Hopefully, with his new trainers, he also was given a whole new attitude. *Of ALL the fighters I have covered, interviewed, talked to, written about and profiled in a career which has touched five decades, NOBODY has ever had a worse attitude than Mike Jones. *

Shortly before the crushing loss to Randall Bailey, I called Hall-of-Fame promoter Russell Peltz asked him if he could get his unbeaten welter, Mike Jones, on my show. *Two days later, Peltz called me back.

"I am having trouble reaching Jones," he told me.

"You're his promoter," I said. *"Keep trying. *If we don't get him on this week, we'll shoot for next week."

The next day, Peltz called me back.

"Mike doesn't feel like doing the show," said Peltz. *"To be honest, he's not all that comfortable being interviewed or with the media."

"Russell, it goes with the territory!" I said.

"I know that," replied Peltz. *"You and Gerry (Cooney) will be great for him to learn from."

Well, after a few more calls, Peltz got Jones to come on. *What a mistake.

I gave Jones the big "Randy G. Buildup." *After the buildup, I rolled out our version of the red carpet. *

"...welcome to the show, the undefeated, hard-hitting, Philadelphia version of Thomas "The Hitman" Hearns, Mike Jones."

Silence. *There was silence. *Dead air.

I quickly jumped in.

"Mike, are you there?" I asked. *I looked at my producer, who was sure Jones was on the line.

"Mike?" I repeated.

Then, his voice was heard.

"Yeh!"

"Yeh?" *I'm thinking. *I just gave the guy a buildup as if he had just won "Fighter of the Year" and all he can say is "Yeh"????

Well, from that point, Jones seemed to be as uncomfortable as a cobra at a Mongoose convention. *Gerry and I couldn't wait until the interview was over. *When it was, Cooney and I just looked at each other.

"What was that?" he asked me.

"That was, at least in my buildup, *the future welterweight champion of the world," I replied.

Well, Jones is back. *Two years of dedication and hard work have taken him to his upcoming comeback fight. *He's got new trainers, an even better offense, a tighter defense and a renewed confidence.

Hopefully, he's also found a personality. *Anything is better than the one he had!

-Randy G."


Nooooo, you gave him The Buildup, The Intro of Intros and all this roody poo could say was "Yeh?!"

Maybe your namesake Randy B. knocked some sort of jive into him with his two-punch/triple fracture destruction that left him bleeding thick blood from places you're not supposed to bleed from like the tip of the nose.

Just to honor Randy B. and his freakish power, here's a brief compilation of this man's grotesquely absurd, borderline bizarre punching power.

I'm so serious, it's almost cartoonish the way they fly across the ring sometimes. They don't tumble or stumble, they fly across thr ring or on the back with velocity.

I swear, it looks like WWE sell jobs but those hammers are real:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7D_3abkm4M

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Greatest's Greatest Fan:

Great Article! When I finished reading it, I was very impressed and looked up to see who wrote it. I should have known it was Frank. He really knows his boxing history!

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stormcentre:

Tough call.

From what I understand Dan has had his fair share of legal stouches and as such it (as far as Ward is concerned) could go either way.

I think, Ward is just (perhaps justifiably) peeved off at how Dan (and many others) have shown how Labor code 2855 can be - at least perceivably - circumvented with separate contracts/agreements.

Still the combined fact that they were separate and not entirely continuous shows Ward had the options of renegotiating his interests at those times; which - from my understanding - is one significant way the abovementioned Californian Labor code has been designed, so it empowers those that may not be (or feel as if they are) an authority to the contract.

Put it this way, many promoters have the capability to (legally) flick the switch on a fighter's career whenever they want even if there are not these causes for animosity.

Take a look at Top Rank's business model and fighter stable.

Do you see any lack of potential options there for Bob if any single fighter starts to cause issues? And has he ever been without options and not made squillions?

A common contractual approach (to assist with "flicking" the troublesome party or pushing them to breach contract should they become problematic and/or concerned with how much they're not making and where that's going) is designing contracts that don't necessarily guarantee the fighter PPV or network dates.

This way, a promoter controls the fighter's status and (big time) income in the same manner that studios do to acting and musical performing artists that are not truly independent; like Mayweather is in boxing - which is one reason why he has remained undefeated for so long.

Don King: let's not go there.

You get the picture.

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The Commish:

It is gonna' take some time for me to get used to BKB fighting.

But I will keep an open mind.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

You got me thinking breakfast and threw off *what I started to write about on this thread in the first place: *Mike Jones.

Hopefully, with his new trainers, he also was given a whole new attitude. *Of ALL the fighters I have covered, interviewed, talked to, written about and profiled in a career which has touched five decades, NOBODY has ever had a worse attitude than Mike Jones. *

Shortly before the crushing loss to Randall Bailey, I called Hall-of-Fame promoter Russell Peltz asked him if he could get his unbeaten welter, Mike Jones, on my show. *Two days later, Peltz called me back.

"I am having trouble reaching Jones," he told me.

"You're his promoter," I said. *"Keep trying. *If we don't get him on this week, we'll shoot for next week."

The next day, Peltz called me back.

"Mike doesn't feel like doing the show," said Peltz. *"To be honest, he's not all that comfortable being interviewed or with the media."

"Russell, it goes with the territory!" I said.

"I know that," replied Peltz. *"You and Gerry (Cooney) will be great for him to learn from."

Well, after a few more calls, Peltz got Jones to come on. *What a mistake.

I gave Jones the big "Randy G. Buildup." *After the buildup, I rolled out our version of the red carpet. *

"...welcome to the show, the undefeated, hard-hitting, Philadelphia version of Thomas "The Hitman" Hearns, Mike Jones."

Silence. *There was silence. *Dead air.

I quickly jumped in.

"Mike, are you there?" I asked. *I looked at my producer, who was sure Jones was on the line.

"Mike?" I repeated.

Then, his voice was heard.

"Yeh!"

"Yeh?" *I'm thinking. *I just gave the guy a buildup as if he had just won "Fighter of the Year" and all he can say is "Yeh"????

Well, from that point, Jones seemed to be as uncomfortable as a cobra at a Mongoose convention. *Gerry and I couldn't wait until the interview was over. *When it was, Cooney and I just looked at each other.

"What was that?" he asked me.

"That was, at least in my buildup, *the future welterweight champion of the world," I replied.

Well, Jones is back. *Two years of dedication and hard work have taken him to his upcoming comeback fight. *He's got new trainers, an even better offense, a tighter defense and a renewed confidence.

Hopefully, he's also found a personality. *Anything is better than the one he had!

-Randy G.

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amayseng:

Will Goosen hold a grudge and strongarm Ward with poor fights and small paydays or will he let things go?

I am asking?

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stormcentre:

Things that make you go hmmm.

I has previously ( http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?16816-Goosen-files-10-million-dollar-defamation-suit-against-Ward&p=61424&viewfull=1#post61424 ) stated such might occur.

The right thing for GTP to do now, is to withdraw the 10M writ; although such an option (itself) could be used as a bargaining tool to ensure Andre behaves as expected.

All these distractions (even aside from the judgment and how it means Ward must "work" with Dan) will not make it easier for Ward to perform and win; even if he is fed the "right" fights for the best "cost" in a timely manner.

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The Shadow:

"Come on Shadow cut T some slack. He has a point , Floyd made many excuses. At the time of the so called offer ,Floyd offered red hot MP a 40 million flat fee with no rights. You wouldn't take that at the time if you were MP either. MP calls Floyd out all the time, while Floyd contradicts himself and blames his hate for Arum for not making the fight.

Is interference of existing contracts even legal?
Any way it's sad we are talking about these things rather then the fight itself. The bottom line is if Floyd wanted the fight it would be happening. It really is for Floyd's sake to take the fight. If not, he may have millions but he will always have the asterisk of not taking the fight. His legacy will be affected in a negative way."


I didn't mean to be harsh to Mr. Tony because I appreciate his input.

That said, what rights did he want? It was $40m upfront, which would've accrued to $45m. That's 2.5 fights worth of pay for him. He should've taken it. (Arum wouldn't have allowed it regardless. I don't think it was interference because Floyd told Manny, supposedly, that he should call Bob and get everyone on the same page.)

So yes, if I am Manny and I've wanted to fight someone as bad as I've claimed, if I claim to fight for the fans, for the people to make them happy, and want this guy so bad I'd fight for free (!), then heck yes I take the record purse.

I don't doubt that Manny Pacquiao wants him but it's a moot point when the promoter doesn't. There was no impetus, no incentive for him to do so. If I were Arum, I would've done the exact same thing.

I probably wouldn't have lied so much but deceit kinda comes with the job description; it's promotions! But the bottom line is with my fairly decent understanding of business, financials and margins, I would not make the fight either if I were Arum.

(There's a little known fact with their business relationship. Arum advances a lot of money to Pacquiao in between fights; one million here, two million there. The advance is then deducted from his purse, leaving little left for Manny on fight night. What's interesting about the advance is that Arum funds that with the residual PPV income from cable/satellite that Manny really should be entitled to in the first place. This is one of the reasons a) Floyd left and b) he makes so much more money than Manny, even in fights where their numbers are similar.)

As for Floyd staying silent, Floyd has expressed publicly and privately that he ignored them because he knew they had no intentions of making the fight. If you notice, Deep, they would always talk about Mayweather whenever Manny had a fight signed.

(And the guys on First Take are too ignorant not to realize how disrespectful they are by inviting Manny and an opponent in-studio and then asking them how another guy will do, as if he's just a stand-in, a bump in the road en route to the mega fight.)

The few times they tried to discuss with Top Rank & Co. when both were available, they refused. It's true. And Floyd got sick and tired of it.

All it would do was boost their events by baiting fans with the possible Floyd fight. "They piggybacking off my name," he would say.

To be fair to Arum, I got the impression he kinda thought both parts were in on it, kinda like a "worked shoot" type of thing. "Bait the fans, keep making money and we'll fight when there's nowhere else to go."

Ultimately, you're right. It sucks that we're talking about this BS. We should talking about the hype for their rematch at this stage.

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The Shadow:

"Come on Shadow cut T some slack. He has a point , Floyd made many excuses. At the time of the so called offer ,Floyd offered red hot MP a 40 million flat fee with no rights. You wouldn't take that at the time if you were MP either. MP calls Floyd out all the time, while Floyd contradicts himself and blames his hate for Arum for not making the fight.

Is interference of existing contracts even legal?
Any way it's sad we are talking about these things rather then the fight itself. The bottom line is if Floyd wanted the fight it would be happening. It really is for Floyd's sake to take the fight. If not, he may have millions but he will always have the asterisk of not taking the fight. His legacy will be affected in a negative way."


I didn't mean to be harsh to Mr. Tony because I appreciate his input.

That said, what rights did he want? It was $40m upfront, which would've accrued to $45m. That's 2.5 fights worth of pay for him. He should've taken it. (Arum wouldn't have allowed it regardless.)

So yes, if I am Manny and I've wanted to fight someone as bad as I've claimed, if I claim to fight for the fans, for the people to make them happy, and want this guy so bad I'd fight for free (!), then heck yes I take the record purse.

I don't doubt that Manny Pacquiao wants him but it's a moot point when the promoter doesn't. There was no impetus, no incentive for him to do so. If I were Arum, I would've done the exact same thing.

I probably wouldn't have lied so much but deceit kinda comes with the job description; it's promotions! But the bottom line is with my fairly decent understanding of business, financials and margins, I would not make the fight either if I were Arum.

(There's a little known fact with their business relationship. Arum advances a lot of money to Pacquiao in between fights; one million here, two million there. The advance is then deducted from his purse, leaving little left for Manny on fight night. What's interesting about the advance is that Arum funds that with the residual PPV income from cable/satellite that Manny really should be entitled to in the first place. This is one of the reasons a) Floyd left and b) he makes so much more money than Manny, even in fights where their numbers are similar.)

As for Floyd staying silent, Floyd has expressed publicly and privately that he ignored them because he knew they had no intentions of making the fight. If you notice, Deep, they would always talk about Mayweather whenever Manny had a fight signed.

(And the guys on First Take are too ignorant not to realize how disrespectful they are by inviting Manny and an opponent in-studio and then asking them how another guy will do, as if he's just a stand-in, a bump in the road en route to the mega fight.)

The few times they tried to discuss with Top Rank & Co. when both were available, they refused. It's true. And Floyd got sick and tired of it.

All it would do was boost their events by baiting fans with the possible Floyd fight. "They piggybacking off my name," he would say.

To be fair to Arum, I got the impression he kinda thought both parts were in on it, kinda like a "worked shoot" type of thing. "Bait the fans, keep making money and we'll fight when there's nowhere else to go."

Ultimately, you're right. It sucks that we're talking about this BS. We should talking about the hype for their rematch at this stage.

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deepwater2:

Come on Shadow cut T some slack. He has a point , Floyd made many excuses. At the time of the so called offer ,Floyd offered red hot MP a 40 million flat fee with no rights. You wouldn't take that at the time if you were MP either. MP calls Floyd out all the time, while Floyd contradicts himself and blames his hate for Arum for not making the fight.



Is interference of existing contracts even legal?

Any way it's sad we are talking about these things rather then the fight itself. The bottom line is if Floyd wanted the fight it would be happening. It really is for Floyd's sake to take the fight. If not, he may have millions but he will always have the asterisk of not taking the fight. His legacy will be affected in a negative way.

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The Commish:

"A hot cup of alkaline water after about 30 minutes after getting up. About three hours later, after exercising, road work and showering, a hand full of unsalted almonds, some seaweed, red beets and a bowl-filled of oat mill cooked in coconut water. And dill weed and dill seeds thrown in. Holla!"

Damn! How long long have you been on this breakfast? I don't even want to tell you what I eat before heading off to the gym around 5:30am.

I will tell you this--it ain't seaweed, dillweed and the rest! I do drink lots of coconut water and have my red beets in my nightly salads.

But my breakfasts? Right now, you've got me thinking of the breakfast buffet at the Mirage in Las Vegas!

-Randy G.

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Radam G:

"Boom.

Andre ,train hard, get into the ring,keep winning ,finish the contract and take it from there. Hopefully GTP will drop the defamation suit and everyone will get down to business. Please fire and disassociate yourself from the people that gave you the advice to sue."


The Goossen's lawsuit will also be dismissed. Look like we are back where we started. Holla!

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The Shadow:

"You have just as many excuses as Floyd himself. If he were a real warrior he would fight even those that pose a risk to his 0. Ali did it, Leonard did it. Whether he would beat Pacquiao or not is beside the point. He's avoiding Pacquiao like the plague and you know it! He should fight Manny for HIS sake. If he doesn't he'll only be remembered as the guy who ducked Pacquiao."

Dude, I understand your passion and I want to see the fight as much as you but that type of simple minded logic doesn't fly here.

I see that you also failed to address anything I said.

1) What excuses did I list? I gave you the reality, the facts. Not fantasy.

2) Why don't you answer the question? Where would you deliver that pizza. Be honest.

3) "When did Mayweather ever duck him? He signed the contract in December '09. Fact.

"Avoiding him like the plague?"

What evidence is there of that except for ignoring a disgusting PR stunt by Top Rank where the deal they offered was long expired and no other deal had even been discussed?

Another fact: Mayweather offered him a deal, called him out, Tweeted, responded to BS demands from Arum (put up a guarantee! Who's representing you! We need to hear it from Mayweather's mouth!), met with his adviser in Vegas, shoot, he even called the dude directly on the phone. Is that avoiding someone?

How did he duck him? Every time there were ever a dialogue between them, Pacquiao -- the guy who claims to want to fight for free, the guy who said he'd take less, the guy who said he would take the tests -- refused and left the negotiating table.

No matter what people think about it or perceive it, those are the facts.

Again, I appreciate your comment and your input but don't come with that weak deflecting BS about me making excuses. That's boxingscene stuff.

Just answer the question. Would you deliver that pizza to Crip Country or to Hollywood?

As for risking his 0, what do you want him to do? He's better than everyone else. There is no threat to his 0 unless he goes to 168 or 175 where he will probably get injured really badly even in victory. Is that what you want? Is that what he should do?

That has nothing to do with being a "real warrior." It's "real stupid," is what it is.

And when did Ali and Leonard risk everything? When Leonard took on Camacho? Roberto Duran III? Or when Ali took on a novice with less than 10 fights instead of fighting Ken Norton for the fourth time, which split up the heavyweight title for 10 years?

It's kinda like asking the Williams sisters, when they were 1 and 2 by far, to move into the men's ranks because they were too dominant.

Like Brownsugar said, he could go to Mount Olympus and face Zeus himself, outpoint the old the old bastard and people would say Zeus is old and shot.

"Face Lucifer instead!"

It never ends.

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Radam G:

"How long after you wake up do you eat Radam? And whats the usual RG breakfast-of-champs?"

A hot cup of alkaline water after about 30 minutes after getting up. About three hours later, after exercising, road work and showering, a hand full of unsalted almonds, some seaweed, red beets and a bowl-filled of oat mill cooked in coconut water. And dill weed and dill seeds thrown in. Holla!

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tonyastro:

"Tony, I think you're being a little harsh here. Because that's not true and you know it. He's fought every style there was to fight.

Besides, who out there were there for him to fight in May? (Don't say Pacquiao; we already know that's not reality.) The choice was between Khan and Maidana. Some say Maidana won so it warrants a rematch.

For this fight, I'm sure he wanted Cotto but of course they don't want to give up that belt quite yet.

He's fighting by the same rules and principles as any other fighter (in terms of prizefighting) and the pro fighters on here will co-sign that statement in a second.

But even if it were true that he just fights slow, one-dimensional fighters, let me propose this (hypothetical) scenario to you.

Say you live in LA and you work for premium version of Domino's. Your boss asks you to choose between two tasks:

a) Deliver 10 pizzas to Hollywood for $15,000 in Jack Nicholson's neighborhood.

b) Deliver 10 packages to a Crip-infested section South Central for $15,000.

Which one do you take?

Be honest."



You have just as many excuses as Floyd himself. If he were a real warrior he would fight even those that pose a risk to his 0. Ali did it, Leonard did it. Whether he would beat Pacquiao or not is beside the point. He's avoiding Pacquiao like the plague and you know it! He should fight Manny for HIS sake. If he doesn't he'll only be remembered as the guy who ducked Pacquiao.

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deepwater2:

Boom.



Andre ,train hard, get into the ring,keep winning ,finish the contract and take it from there. Hopefully GTP will drop the defamation suit and everyone will get down to business. Please fire and disassociate yourself from the people that gave you the advice to sue.

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deepwater2:

If the pizza delivery man claimed to be the best ever pizza delivery man he would deliver the 10 pizzas to Jack in Hollywood and then drive the 20 minutes or so and deliver the other 10 pizza while avoiding as many crips as possible. Upon return to the pizza parlor, the owner would declare Tony the best ever pizza delivery man of all time because he took on all challenges and delivered the pizza hot and in an entertaining way.

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The Shadow:

"Right on! Why should Mayweather fight the best out there when he could make just as much money fighting slow one-dimensional fighters! LOL!"

Tony, I think you're being a little harsh here. Because that's not true and you know it. He's fought every style there was to fight.

Besides, who out there were there for him to fight in May? (Don't say Pacquiao; we already know that's not reality.) The choice was between Khan and Maidana. Some say Maidana won so it warrants a rematch.

For this fight, I'm sure he wanted Cotto but of course they don't want to give up that belt quite yet.

He's fighting by the same rules and principles as any other fighter (in terms of prizefighting) and the pro fighters on here will co-sign that statement in a second.

But even if it were true that he just fights slow, one-dimensional fighters, let me propose this (hypothetical) scenario to you.

Say you live in LA and you work for premium version of Domino's. Your boss asks you to choose between two tasks:

a) Deliver 10 pizzas to Hollywood for $15,000 in Jack Nicholson's neighborhood.

b) Deliver 10 packages to a Crip-infested section South Central for $15,000.

Which one do you take?

Be honest.

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