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deepwater2:

"He may not have any "special effects", but he is pretty close to the complete package in terms of technical skills. I've seen few fighters - and even fewer active as of now - with his ability to perform complex movements that simultaneously involves hand and feet. Believe me, he's good - really good. The "special effects" can be found in many fighters, and many of them aren't able to do anything with it - cause in the long run, the lack of fundamentals hits back. Lomachenko got all the fundamentals, and in abundance."



He really is the complete package in the ring. Take away the fouls and I would reckon vl would have stopped salido . Seems to be a gentleman also. Looking forward to his next fight. Grj might have an injury before the fight.

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dino da vinci:

"I have George Foreman's first professional license. I had tons more, but the entire lot was stolen about 15 years ago.



-Randy G."




That's heartbreaking.

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Skibbz:

"Skibbz, he really wants to fight Maidana. From what I heard, he had to be paid off to let Mayweather-Maidana happen (though I'm not too sure about the existence of that rematch clause so it could be bogus).



He's a fighter and very competitive. I think he wants right that wrong. At least try. Don't you think after that embarrassment?



As far as box office, 300K is an outstanding figure for a first-time PPV headliner.



By comparison, Canelo had a successful PPV with Alfredo Angulo, which did 350-375. Pacquiao-Rios did 375-475, depending on the source.



Marquez-Bradley did around 350,000. Mayweather-Gatti did a similar figure.



So compared to Mayweather and Pacquiao, it's not that much, but then again, those two guys have rack up Top 10 all time box office numbers in recent years.



Also, I think Mike Tyson's last PPV did around 250,000, which was considered a success (all things considered)."




So is it a part of mayweather's following that bite onto broner?



Aseng said something funny about broner fans on another thread, 300k people who pay to watch him fight. Should be much more really... How much does a big sporting event get? I'm not too wise on these numbers lol

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The Shadow:

"Floyd has played the bad guy/a$$hol3 role perfectly!! He said it awhile back if he can get people to spend for PPV just to see him lose, its money coming in from both sides. I watched episode 1 this morning, and it it seems like he has dialed in the money money BS this time."

Yup! That whole "Floyd has matured since prison, Foyd is mellow since prison" doesn't move the needle. People get outraged at this stuff; Ross and Floyd know this.

Compare it to the most recent 24/7. Completely boring and without intrigue.

This here at least annoys people who don't like him and impresses those that do. Keep in mind, he gets his fan base of supporters from the "urban" crowd, the same crowd hip hop music appeals to.

Like we hear in hip hop, this stuff resonates for whatever reason; the message is conspicuously similar. CC, yes, he could set a better example.

But Mayweather Promotions' corporate mission is to sell fights. He has a nonprofit organization for all the positive stuff.

Like Randy said, this may cause some on-the-fence buyers to make that leap into consumption. (I doubt interviewing journalists accomplish that.)

They've tried that humble Floyd stuff. Didn't connect. So maybe it's better to go back to what brought you to the dance.

I'm cool with it.

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The Shadow:

"How big is that compared to the other guys? Like who else does a 300k currently? Just to give me a picture you know :confused:

Must admit though that stuff about getting it on the next day, or soon after, smelt a bit. Don't trust his honesty."


Skibbz, he really wants to fight Maidana. From what I heard, he had to be paid off to let Mayweather-Maidana happen (though I'm not too sure about the existence of that rematch clause so it could be bogus).

He's a fighter and very competitive. I think he wants right that wrong. At least try. Don't you think after that embarrassment?

As far as box office, 300K is an outstanding figure for a first-time PPV headliner.

By comparison, Canelo had a successful PPV with Alfredo Angulo, which did 350-375. Pacquiao-Rios did 375-475, depending on the source.

Marquez-Bradley did around 350,000. Mayweather-Gatti did a similar figure.

So compared to Mayweather and Pacquiao, it's not that much, but then again, those two guys have rack up Top 10 all time box office numbers in recent years.

Also, I think Mike Tyson's last PPV did around 250,000, which was considered a success (all things considered).

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Skibbz:

"Everyone who hates him! Because they tune in, lining his pockets.

Being polarizing means having made it; ndifference is the last thing an entertainer wants.

I predict this guy will sell 300,000 on PPV 12 months from his next fight.

If Marcos Maidana starts pulling some weight and resonates with the audience, I wouldn't be surprised to see that rematch on PPV.

I also think he deserves some credit for not making any excuses and just wanting to get back in there with the guy who knocked him all around the ring."


How big is that compared to the other guys? Like who else does a 300k currently? Just to give me a picture you know :confused:

Must admit though that stuff about getting it on the next day, or soon after, smelt a bit. Don't trust his honesty.

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King Beef:

"Sometimes I think that Floyd's Antics are meant to "**** people off," but here's the truth that all access doesn't even need to show me...

I know he's gonna come in tip top shape and I know he's gonna be laser focused on not letting Chino take his head off....

He's been a world champion since the 90's and that alone is impressive to me...


I liked the Back story about Chino being there for his baby to be born...."




Floyd has played the bad guy/a$$hol3 role perfectly!! He said it awhile back if he can get people to spend for PPV just to see him lose, its money coming in from both sides. I watched episode 1 this morning, and it it seems like he has dialed in the money money BS this time.

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Skibbz:

"Yeah I think Porter is gonna be a player @147. I kinda want to see a Porter/Thurman matchup alittle more now; I know Porter's dad kinda swept it aside earlier, but it will be a good test for both: can Porter pressure a puncher, and can Thurman adapt to Porter's pressure. I don't know iiif it was more of an old Paulie, but Porter was alittle quicker than I thought."

Porter's dad brushed it aside because he doesn't want to give his a loss! How do you catch a shorter guy rushing in? The uppercut... The same one that Thurman has polished, ready for show.

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King Beef:

"No doubt man. Someone else said it, but Paulie's speed is no longer a weapon, so now he's got no chance but to brawl. Not his game. He reminded me of Gatti a bit last night. Paulie is a credit to the sport. I never liked him coming up, rooted against him, and I've done a complete 180. I admire the guy and he got whipped by what looks to be a special guy. No shame there.

As for Hopkins, I just don't get it either. BS having no trainer at the elite level of boxing is sheer stupidity. I admire where he's gotten, but man, put a team together. I guess he's keeping the bulk of his purse though. But those purses will dry up with performances like that. I would have given the welterweight Shawn Porter a better chance of beating Hopkins than Shumenov, and I mean that literally."



Yeah I think Porter is gonna be a player @147. I kinda want to see a Porter/Thurman matchup alittle more now; I know Porter's dad kinda swept it aside earlier, but it will be a good test for both: can Porter pressure a puncher, and can Thurman adapt to Porter's pressure. I don't know iiif it was more of an old Paulie, but Porter was alittle quicker than I thought.

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The Shadow:

"Adrien Broner is supposed to have this big fan base. Yet, everyone I read or speak to watch to see him get smacked around once more.

Yo, Adrien! Where are these so-called fans?

-Randy G."


Everyone who hates him! Because they tune in, lining his pockets.

Being polarizing means having made it; ndifference is the last thing an entertainer wants.

I predict this guy will sell 300,000 on PPV 12 months from his next fight.

If Marcos Maidana starts pulling some weight and resonates with the audience, I wouldn't be surprised to see that rematch on PPV.

I also think he deserves some credit for not making any excuses and just wanting to get back in there with the guy who knocked him all around the ring.

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Skibbz:

The sad problem with the SD on Hopkins' record is that it makes what was a relatively straight forward fight, look like it was difficult because of his age to those looking back on his fight history in the future. A shame because it was a serious vet exposing gaping holes in a fellow champ. Good luck Stevenson.

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SouthPawFlo:

Sometimes I think that Floyd's Antics are meant to "**** people off," but here's the truth that all access doesn't even need to show me...



I know he's gonna come in tip top shape and I know he's gonna be laser focused on not letting Chino take his head off....



He's been a world champion since the 90's and that alone is impressive to me...





I liked the Back story about Chino being there for his baby to be born....

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Radam G:

"For me, its a signed boxing glove from Wladimir Klitschko that I won in a contest and a personalized signed black and white photo from Joey Giardello. After the move the Hurricane came out, I watched the Carter-Giardello fight and scored it in favor of Giardello. I wrote Giardello to let him know I thought he won the fight and the bout was clearly falsely portrayed in the movie (not asking for anything). A few weeks later a signed photo came in the mail from him and that is something I will always treasure in my collection."



Thanks for that testimony about Joey Giardello. JG sending you that autographed photo further substantiates what I've been telling readers in this Universe for years.



The greats, close to greats and even good boxers and trainers don't have tudes against fans and/or are paranoid of them.



The wannabes are the @$$holes with da tudes. You can write letter to any of the great ones -- boxers or trainers -- and visit them in the gym. All you will get is mad luv.



Whatever happened to TSS reader Hop. He told the Universe about the mad luv that got at Mayweather.



Hey, Hop! Come back, dude. Check in! Holla!

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Skibbz:

Watched episode 1, will trust you guys to decide episode 2 is worth the time.



EDIT: They told me about his cars, his homes and his ladies. Of the challenger, they told me he has a newborn. @commissioner, I don't think its geared to those guys on the fence. It's aimed at the masses; your neighbour, taxi driver, window cleaner... the guys looking for the spectacle on the bandwagon.



This was shockingly poor.

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Skibbz:

Porter was always going to be too much, I just expected Paulie to reach the final bell. Just watched the fight back, it's time to hang em up. At least he's got that gig on tv..

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Skibbz:

Wow, Gary Ross Jr?!? V Lo has too much for him.. It'll be clear after the fight the level each fighter is at, and GRJ will be looking up.

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Radam G:

Wow! Paulie was mentally drained from all of his talk and feeling-dissed anger before the dance.

IMHO, his speed is there. But his focus and passion have jumped and lumped into frontin' and emotions. That jive will turtle you.

He needs a spiritual trainer -- in the mold of the late, great boxing spiritual trainer Drew "Bundini" Brown -- to narrow him to concentrating on the own-self fighting. Not what Da Manny is doing. Or Boner, or any other fighter. Holla!

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The Good Doctor:

If V-Lo wins I am not sure that it proves anything. I like Gary Russell but he has an undefeated record with more bumbs on it that I have ever seen like the commish said. All we really know about Gary Russell is that he is fast. Now if Gary wins, he almost instantly gains credibility and it may destroy V-Lo's. I am in the camp that says neither is terrible but I am not sold that either one of them is that good yet.

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amayseng:

"Adrien Broner is supposed to have this big fan base. Yet, everyone I read or speak to watch to see him get smacked around once more.



Yo, Adrien! Where are these so-called fans?



-Randy G."




No one with any self respect or dignity likes this poor human being.

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ArneK.:

The great baseball pitcher Sandy Koufax, who retired at age 30, said that when he retired he had enough money to last the rest of his life. Later on he would say that he discovered this was only true if he stopped spending. Is it crazy to think that Mayweather will lose most of his big-ticket possessions some day, akin to Evander Holyfield and others? It's not crazy at all.

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amayseng:

"These All Access--as are the 24/7 shows on HBO--are geared to the boxing consumer sitting on the fence about buying the fight. If you clearly are not going to buy it, All Access won't change your mind. But if you are, "Hmm, I just might buy it, I'm not sure," then All Access will push you in the direction of buying the May 3 event.

Me? I buy everything.

That includess May 3. How great would it be to watch Maidana pull off a major upset?

-Randy G."


Commish I am all about hype and adding intrigue to an upcoming event, but Floyd's shtick is just tired and boring.

I mean come on, talking about banging girls on his bed, ugh, so tired and boring. Is that suppose to be impressive or entertaining.

If this is all they have to rely on then something is wrong. it is the same ol thing for years now.

floyd buys cars
floyd buys clothes

this was on the level of the Kardashians, who i consider some of the most despicable human beings on this planet.

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The Commish:

Shawn Porter is for real. He matchedPaulie in speed & overwhelmed him in the Punching Power Dept. Got a strong feeling he will be The Man before too long.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

I have George Foreman's first professional license. I had tons more, but the entire lot was stolen about 15 years ago.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Bob Arum meant every word he said...last week. This week could be an entirely different song. As Radam said, when it comes to the Big Moolah, the "pi$$ing conte$t" will come to an end.

-Randy G.

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Radam G:

"Las Vegas Review-Journal page 3 gossip columnist Norm Clarke recently received a copy of the latest edition of the MGM Grand's private company newsletter. In it CEO Jim Murren writes that the company "will not associate with abusive individuals." Arum wasn't mentioned by name, but the inference was clear.

As we recall, Arum enlivened the final press conference for the Pacquiao-Bradley rematch by trashing his host. He compared the MGM unfavorably with the rival Venetian and called a key MGM executive a "brain dead moron."

Arum can be abrasive. Sometimes he comes across as a petulant little boy. Former employees of his have told me that he wasn't an easy man to work for. However, I confess that I often find this feisty octogenarian refreshing. In an age when even an off-the-cuff remark by a corporate executive in a public forum comes across as if it were scripted by a spin doctor, it's refreshing to find a guy who isn't afraid to tell you how he feels deep down in his gut.

So the MGM and Arum are kaput. But forever? Don't bet on it. As the late Mickey Duff told Thomas Hauser, there are no permanent friends in boxing and there are no permanent enemies."


It is all about da MONEEE! Ain't darn thing FUNEEE! These grown men are just having a p$$ng onte$t. But when fight time comes for that BIG MOOLAH, they will put it too re$t.

CEO Jim Murren writes a conditional lie. But he will develop amnesia to get MGM Grand a big cut of the giant-money pie. Holla!

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The Commish:

Adrien Broner is supposed to have this big fan base. Yet, everyone I read or speak to watch to see him get smacked around once more.

Yo, Adrien! Where are these so-called fans?

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Personally, I think Russell & V-Lo are two talented young fighters. It's hard to believe that if V-Lo loses, he will have to win his next fight just to get back to .500. However, we know he can fight. We also know...make that, Believe...Russell can fight. However, with the amount of cadavers put in front of him, we have questions.

This is a very interesting matchup.

It's also one of the fights of 2014 I anxiously await.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Mickey Duff was so right. The MGM may despise Bob Arum today, but watch how fast they'll fall back in love with him should he come up with a fight which'll do phenomenal numbers at the live gate and in their casino.

Money talks.

Just watch!

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

These All Access--as are the 24/7 shows on HBO--are geared to the boxing consumer sitting on the fence about buying the fight. If you clearly are not going to buy it, All Access won't change your mind. But if you are, "Hmm, I just might buy it, I'm not sure," then All Access will push you in the direction of buying the May 3 event.

Me? I buy everything.

That includess May 3. How great would it be to watch Maidana pull off a major upset?

-Randy G.

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Radam G:

"Lomachenko will lose more than likely and when he does, he should be pushed to the back of the line. Despite the amateur success, Lomachenko is no Rigondeaux skill wise. He also doesn't have any athletic attributes such as power or speed that are breath taking. Gary Russell Jr. will win this fight unanimously and many of the posters on this site will make excuses as to why Lomachenko lost. I have seen enough and Lomachenko is more hype than reality."

Sorry, SRD! G-Russ Junebug is reality hype of an illusion to da max. His arse, a warm body will tax. And the clock is ticking. No need for excuses. He won't win. He is a dude of tin.

V-Lo has athletic attributes to burn. You are flashy blinded by G-RJ and cannot see it. And victory, for him, you yearn. But how to fight, the dude needs to learn. He will not win against live bodies by osmosis. Holla!

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