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The Shadow:

"Dang! That was cold, tS! But is likely what SOG will do to 3g. Three g reminds me of a cobra -- just striking and striking -- not the bit of aware of an on-coming mongoosized stealth encounter.

I say that 3g remains smart g-g-g and stay at one-sixty. And don't get in the same zip code with SOG. Team 3g don't want nona-ur-dat . Holla!"


Precisely. Too much filth and stealth is not good for your health.

He don't want that work.

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thegreyman:

Kid Chocolate will melt under the glare of the Kazakh sun.

I'd love to see the fight made!

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Radam G:

Dang! That was cold, tS! But is likely what SOG will do to 3g. Three g reminds me of a cobra -- just striking and striking -- not the bit of aware of an on-coming mongoosized stealth encounter.

I say that 3g remains smart g-g-g and stay at one-sixty. And don't get in the same zip code with SOG. Team 3g don't want nona-ur-dat . Holla!

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The Shadow:

"I anticipate finding out this Friday where negotiations between the GGG camp & Quillin camp are. Quillin will be my in-studio guest on SiriusXM from 6-8pm.

We've got a lot to talk about.

-Randy G."


Colgate Quillin is not to be messed with.

If he's on point, he could take his new Colgate smile and make the Good Boy lose his, HBK-style.

Or the other way around.

Either way, I'd like to see that fight.

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The Shadow:

"Don't be hating on my Girl Serena, I've never even seen her on a Proactive commercial. I always see the one with Adam Levine and I always want to choke slam him while watching it. If Serena trained as a fighter she would beat 3G. I don't know if she could make 160 but if she could he would get TKOed in 5."



Oh, no doubt!



Five?? Why so late?



Paulie would edge her, though.

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The Shadow:

"Good point Commish! I should have said revisited it. I never got through it the first time.


El dude, wow, what a trip, el dude needed some el medicine.


Thanks Commish I will do my best!"


Excellent choice. And yes, that Dude was far out. He ran into the Roast and ran for the hills.

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The Shadow:

"Grimm, the only question which I can pose against your informed opinion is aimed at Andre Ward's chin. I strongly believe that when, and it will happen, Golovkin lands his shot on Ward, the Son of God will drop to his knees in submission to the man blessed with power that can seemingly only come from something beyond the realm of the man. If Ward believes that his life has been preordained for greatness and his is a path destined for greatness, than the shocking realisation that only the hardest blow can bring will provide the necessary wake up call to his delusions. I am not argue against religion or a notion of a God, simply arguing that Ward will tumble like those before him.

His chin is not the one that can handle the punch of a Golovkin. We have seen him dance to the canvas in a way that would make Trout's two step and slide look simple. It's hard to believe that Ward, even with all his ability, would be able to evade Gennady for 12 3-minute rounds whilst winning them tough rounds and tying him up. It becomes even more compelling when you factor in the argument how rusty the Son of God must be, with his perpetual inactivity that he so stubbornly decides to resume without thought for his fans or his pugilism.

I don't know who out there can beat Gennady between 160-168. At 160 the market has been cornered and the belts are ripe for Gennady to pluck. The real challenge lies in his inevitable campaign at 168. He is not a natural super-middleweight, the fights will certainly be closer, but I still see the skill and power riding through to give the Kazakh fire brand victory."


You're on fire, aren't you?

Contrary to popular belief, Ward actually has a good chin. Remember, Muhammad Ali got floored a lot in his younger days, too.

Besides, I don't think GGG will land a clean shot on him. It reminds me of the hype prior to Pavlik vs. Hopkins.

Sure, Kelly's got that firepower but if you can't land a clean shot, what does it matter? I'm not sure Golovkin can land a clean shot on Ward. Too elusive and crafty. He's almost impossible to hit on the inside when he smothers an opponent.

Where GGG's chance lies is downstairs -- he may get him to the body.

All in all, it also comes down to temperaments. GGG is a predator in the ring. But Ward is a hybrid of a stone-cold assassin and vicious, nasty pit bull.

I could easily see something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdg9gkmWsEA

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Radam G:

The Kid Chocolate Q is beginning to not feel 3g. Maybe they are both blind and can't see. They need to sit down and drink some Dill Weed Tea. And quit talking about the sparring sessions, and have a bout. This way, they can remove any doubts. "I've whupped his @$$," one of them could then SHOUT! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSwg98SJKvY. Holla!

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thegreyman:

Ward is supremely accurate and intelligent, in both his offence and defence. He is exceptionally physically gifted, with superb reflexes.

Ward has two serious flaws though, that will make him shark bait for GGG.

As Skibbz has pointed out, his chin isn't rock solid, which is certainly an attribute you need if you plan to beat Golovkin over 12 rounds. If guys so notoriously 'durable' and 'tough' as Proksa and Geale went down so fast and hard, how will Ward fare? Not well.

And it will go 12 rounds- because Ward lacks power. He punches with surgical precision, but without the hurt to knock Golovkin off his tracks for 12.

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amayseng:

"Re-read it? That one was impossible to get through, even once!

I don't remember the thread, but I believe it was in April. I believe El Dude was also posting at the time. Remember El "I'm in it to win it" Dude?

Enjoy your upcoming stint.

-Randy G."


Good point Commish! I should have said revisited it. I never got through it the first time.


El dude, wow, what a trip, el dude needed some el medicine.


Thanks Commish I will do my best!

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The Commish:

"haha. That was hysterical, nothing but respect to MisterLee..



does anyone remember the thread it was in? I wanna reread it"






Re-read it? That one was impossible to get through, even once!



I don't remember the thread, but I believe it was in April. I believe El Dude was also posting at the time. Remember El "I'm in it to win it" Dude?



Enjoy your upcoming stint.



-Randy G.

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amayseng:

"Wow! So much monkey jive about 3g. Holla at an oldy from Kid PQ. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3TWp55DGyw. Holla!"

What is a guy who refers to himself in the third person to say? That GGG whooped him? yeah right.. haha

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Radam G:

Wow! So much monkey jive about 3g. Holla at an oldy from Kid PQ. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3TWp55DGyw. Holla!

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oubobcat:

"GGG disposes Quillin in 3.

Jacobs would beat Quillin as well and deserves the shot."


I'd honestly be surprised if Quillin made it through 2 rounds with GGG.

Haymon knows Quillin's has flaws in his game. The last year he has faced Guerrero (fighter who had a weak chin). Rosado (good fighter but limited in many aspects of his game) and Koceny (a definition of a soft touch). Haymon has matched his undefeated Middleweight belt holder very carefully and for good reason. Even if HBO were to call Haymon and say we are interested in doing business with you on a one time deal for Quillin-GGG, I think Haymon turns away from that unless he is presented with an absolutely blockbuster offer for his man.

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The Commish:

"Why doesn't anyone like to mention the fact that GGG and his Handlers are clearly ducking Andre Ward????"



I couldn't disagree more, Southpaw. The last I looked, GGG held a piece of the middleweight title. He is one of boxing's most active champions. Ward is boxing's most inactive champion. Talented but inactive. GGG would like to at least face the other middleweight titleholders and a top contender or two before he r the Super Middleweight Title.



Down the road, GGG v Ward can be a very attractive fight. But it makes zero sense foer this truly outstanding middleweight king to face Andre Ward now.



-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Come on, Skibbz. Tell us how you really feel about Angel & Danny.



Angel is a rip. Truly, the guy makes us laugh. You never know what's gonna' comeout of his mouth. Can you picture Danny Garcia v Robert Guerrero? That fight would also match up the two most obnoxious, loud-mouthed, love-to-hear-themselves-talk father/trainers in the biz.



If you think Angel is out of control now, just just picture what it would be like if their son's were ever matched up.



You'd have a decent fight between them, with an added attraction of the "Battle of the Blowhards."



-Randy G.

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Skibbz:

"One of your best ever, and great analogy.



Thinking of Golovkin, I'm thinking of a pretty near perfect mixture of balance, technique and mental attributes. He has a way of executing technically exemplary punches with a boost by almost budo-like tension at the moment he hits. A man able to beat him must be a man of great ring generalship - a Hopkins, for instance - that still possesses the reflexes, strength and overall skill to give him fits and, last but not least, power to earn his respect. The only man out there that fits the description is Ward. It could be the first real superfight since Hagler-Leonard, minus the media hype.



On another note, I was more impressed with how Golovkin handled Proksa than Geale. Proksa wasn't/isn't the biggest of names, but very talented, very tough, had toyed with solid veteran Sebastian Sylvester and basically made him quit, and most of all: awkward. I predicted Golovkin would be too much for Proksa, but couldn't believe the way he dominated him from the start. Having followed Proksa for a while, that fight was all I needed in order to know Golovkin was so much more than just the real thing. He's the real beast."




Grimm, the only question which I can pose against your informed opinion is aimed at Andre Ward's chin. I strongly believe that when, and it will happen, Golovkin lands his shot on Ward, the Son of God will drop to his knees in submission to the man blessed with power that can seemingly only come from something beyond the realm of the man. If Ward believes that his life has been preordained for greatness and his is a path destined for greatness, than the shocking realisation that only the hardest blow can bring will provide the necessary wake up call to his delusions. I am not argue against religion or a notion of a God, simply arguing that Ward will tumble like those before him.



His chin is not the one that can handle the punch of a Golovkin. We have seen him dance to the canvas in a way that would make Trout's two step and slide look simple. It's hard to believe that Ward, even with all his ability, would be able to evade Gennady for 12 3-minute rounds whilst winning them tough rounds and tying him up. It becomes even more compelling when you factor in the argument how rusty the Son of God must be, with his perpetual inactivity that he so stubbornly decides to resume without thought for his fans or his pugilism.



I don't know who out there can beat Gennady between 160-168. At 160 the market has been cornered and the belts are ripe for Gennady to pluck. The real challenge lies in his inevitable campaign at 168. He is not a natural super-middleweight, the fights will certainly be closer, but I still see the skill and power riding through to give the Kazakh fire brand victory.

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amayseng:

No Danny you need a credible opponent especially after the gift decision in your last fight.
In all honesty you are coming off a LOSS and it truly shows by the matchmaking your team knows you lost as well

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The Commish:

"Commish my wife is new to Long Island NY and she says your wife is top 3 nicest people she has met since being here. Thanks ."

My wife was so honored to hear that. In my book, she is the nicest person I have ever met. Plus, she loves boxing! When I was aboard the NYSAC, she was, in many ways, the "First Lady of Boxing" in NY. Everyone in the sport in NY knew Roni G. Even today, when we are at boxing matches, many of the judges, refs and inspectors walk over to speak with her. Even Melvina Lathan, the Chairperson of the Commission, always huddles with my wife at some point during the card.

So, when are we going out?

I love this TSS DAS (The Sweet Science Date Arranging Service)!

-Randy G.

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Skibbz:

I always go for the knockout. I need a knockout. I haven’t had one since Morales back in Brooklyn so I’m definitely going for it." He's been placed in a de facto bout.. He doesn't need a stoppage, a stoppage will come. After Herrera made him look lousy and blew up the gaping holes in Garcia's game for all to see, Haymon wants his fighter to look good and that's what will happen.

We’re ready for anybody, when Danny goes up to 147 he’s going to take them all down too. I don’t care who the killers are, I don’t care who’s the pretty guy, I don’t care about none of them. When we come to 147 we’re dominating." Someone stick a sock in his mouth and a pole up where the sun doesn't shine because he's talking like a man deluded beyond the point of return. His sanity must surely be questioned now, that after a horrible showing against M H (no discredit to the fighting Maestro), he's now facing somebody with an arsenal of a weak 1-2 and ear muffs and Angel claims that his son will go on and topple everyone at 147.

Both Broner and Garcia should be made to fight each other, a loser leaves boxing and winner starts paying his dues against legitimate opponents.

Again I've said it but I will repeat it. It's no shame if you're the champ, and you take 3-4 non title bouts in the year to keep sharp against opponents in and around the top 40-50, and then hold one or two title bouts against legitimate opponents. But when you're fighting twice a year and charging your fans extortionate prices, how can you justify fights like Garcia vs Salka with belts on the line?

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amayseng:

I have Ward beating Stevenson like a drum, Bhop would be a tough tough fight, possibly a draw, I would favor him against Kovalev if he was active but he is not, I can see Kovalev giving him fits and fits. Kovalev has great timing and distance, that spacing can keep Ward from hitting and gripping and stalling down K's offense. There are a many of great fights for Ward if he would one fight and secondly actually move up or down for the fights.

Against GGG at 168 I don't know who I would pick honestly. I wouldn't I would just enjoy it.


Ward is only hurting himself. he is now 30 and fought just a few times in a few years. Bad idea. How many times do you recall Floyd talking about fighting few and far between and how it kept him from being sharp and at his best?

Ward is losing fans and allowing his skills to diminish. Sadly because I am a huge fan of the man and the fighter.

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amayseng:

"Don't be hating on my Girl Serena, I've never even seen her on a Proactive commercial. I always see the one with Adam Levine and I always want to choke slam him while watching it. If Serena trained as a fighter she would beat 3G. I don't know if she could make 160 but if she could he would get TKOed in 5."



Serena on that Juice.

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gibola:

Hi there - surely HBO has the power to say if you don't want tough fights (or we simply can't make attractive fights for you) then we won't be renewing your contract and you won't be on HBO beyond whatever commitment we've made to you. That would leave both guys with interesting choices. Showtime can't broadcast every fighter so HBO does have a fair bit of clout in that they are the only other show in town. What the hell point is there in having guys under contract to HBO if they can't get them to fight on their channel?

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amayseng:

GGG disposes Quillin in 3.

Jacobs would beat Quillin as well and deserves the shot.

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stormcentre:

Good point there with Proska. He was one of the better guys 3G beat up. No doubt, he was a solid & tough opponent.

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Grimm:

"Geale got dropped like a cornered rat trying to desperately claw his way out of a tight spot."



One of your best ever, and great analogy.



Thinking of Golovkin, I'm thinking of a pretty near perfect mixture of balance, technique and mental attributes. He has a way of executing technically exemplary punches with a boost by almost budo-like tension at the moment he hits. A man able to beat him must be a man of great ring generalship - a Hopkins, for instance - that still possesses the reflexes, strength and overall skill to give him fits and, last but not least, power to earn his respect. The only man out there that fits the description is Ward. It could be the first real superfight since Hagler-Leonard, minus the media hype.



On another note, I was more impressed with how Golovkin handled Proksa than Geale. Proksa wasn't/isn't the biggest of names, but very talented, very tough, had toyed with solid veteran Sebastian Sylvester and basically made him quit, and most of all: awkward. I predicted Golovkin would be too much for Proksa, but couldn't believe the way he dominated him from the start. Having followed Proksa for a while, that fight was all I needed in order to know Golovkin was so much more than just the real thing. He's the real beast.

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stormcentre:

My last post was mainly directed at Shadow.



3G is very good and extremely strong. Going into the Geale fight he had a big psychological & physical advantage, but hey none of it was illegal.



I can't see Ward enjoying all the talk about 3G for too long once he comes back. But he will have to make sure he has a warm up first.



Also I won't be surprised to hear Floyd announce a Pacquiao fight next or the one after that.

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stormcentre:

Can't elaborate in detail as our ISP mistakenly cancelled our account despite us actually over paying them. Seriously. And they say Oz is the land of opportunity. So, I only have a phone.



3Gs application of both offence & defense was more seamless as an amateur IMO. Same with Tszyu.



What happens sometimes when good amateurs turn pro & realize that both their power has been perhaps stunted or undervalued with amateur points system style, and that their style has developed in a manner that is more reliant upon crafty techniques than under appreciated power in the amateur 4 ranks.



The result can often be a fighter that substitutes the above complexities for the love of punching.



When that happens usually you get a guy that's a hitter that also takes someone q quite good & a mix of other issues for him to be beat. For these guys the majority of the pro boxing world is technically behind them anyway so none notices if they drop a few moves & recall them later.



When a fighter opts not to substitute as above described, you get guys like Floyd & Rio.



As far as 3G clearly not being a light middleweight is concerned. ..... Some things you can just tell.

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amayseng:

"Perez vs Jennings?"

Right, why was I thinking Cunningham?

my bad

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deepwater2:

Commish my wife is new to Long Island NY and she says your wife is top 3 nicest people she has met since being here. Thanks .

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