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Skibbz:

+400 underdog may be but he has a shot and will come in determined to take it. Abraham will do his best to keep a hold of his title but I've got a feeling it will be Paul's night. I urge all fans of the sweet science to have a look at the remarkable and prodigy full family of the Smiths, who between them have several World Champions and National Champions with an eye on World titles!

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Radam G:

Why that above pix? What is this? Da Manny And The Beanstalk!



I heard of the "Jolly Green Giant." Hehehe! OMG! C-Al is kinda lookin' like the "Jolly Anglo-Latin Giant." Hahaha!



Da Manny/3m is going to be a giant-killa-eater-whup-@$$ thrilla in Macau, not Manila, come the month -- November -- of slicing and dicing and splicing and stuffing a turkey and eating it da double fudge up.



WTF! Anyway! All the fairy-tale stories are off. I believe that it is C-Al who stole Blunderbore's "Golden Goose," chicken, rooster, quail or -- biting off my Tio Mamoy's English accent -- "whadever da puck it was."



How else could a fighter transcend from making 5-to-15 thousand dollars a bout to $100,000 and now a guarantee of $1.5mil that can hit upward of $3mil+ when all is said and done.



That is all right, Blunderbore. Jack kicked your arse. But Da Manny/3m is going get C-Al for you. But when C-Al comes back to the mainland USA, Uncle Sam's greedy arse is going to take that Golden Goose for tax purposes. Hehehe! But, at least, C-Al will have a few bucks and he will be the Empire State richest active-fighting muck-a-muck. Poor soul. In Macau, he will have no inside-dat-squared-jungle luck. Holla!

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Skibbz:

Wow I think I can say for everyone that we greatly appreciate your endeavours Commissioner, thank you for compiling and aggregating the results. I love the ability to be able to check our own P4P ratings and how they change over time, excellent job. I notice a few ties so I guess we need some more listed opinions on the P4P rankings!

Am I surprised that Floyd Mayweather still sits atop the hill, after his last performance? Yes.

Am I surprised that Andre Ward has dropped from #2 to #4, due to his inactivity in the ring? No.

Am I surprised that the fantastic trio of Pacquiao, Rigondeaux and Golovkin have leapfrogged the hermit and eternal-legal-disputing-not-fist-fighting Ward and taken positions #2,#3, and #4 respectively? No.

Bernard Hopkins and Wlad have done a switch-a-roo, not too surprising although I feel there may be somewhat of a glass ceiling at present for the 49 going on 50 year old BHop, which I hope will be smashed (with some boxing records) when the Hopkins meets Kovalev.

I'm surprised that Manuel Marquez still holds a position in the top 10, albeit joint with Tim Bradley at #9 (who comprehensively beat him not too long ago). There are in my opinion several fighters omitted who can beat both Bradley and Marquez in their weight classes and in a hypothetical P4P match up..

Lastly, Vasyl Lomachenko only clocking in #12. He needs to be fighting at least 4 fights a year and start climbing to where he deserves to be on these rankings.

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Skibbz:

I like it a lot Riverside, Soto will try to exert something on Herrera but El Maestro will be giving another fighter a lesson in the ring! Hopefully this gets him somewhat closer to a 140 title that he so deserves.

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amayseng:

solid overall card

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Radam G:

Here go again! They always love to pull Sugar Ray Robinson outta the hat. And he was more full of jive than Money May could ever be.

He ducked the "Black Murder Row." He fought struggling undertakers and drug-using caretakers. He beat da hebejeebeez outta his wives and hos. He use dwarfs and midget for bowling balls.

"The notable name" SSR ducked, not "missed," would've been favorable over him too. Charlie Burley was a mixed of speed and power and too much whup arse for SRR. SRR knew it.

Somebody need to start telling the truth. Money May is a mini ducker. SSR was a mass ducker.

Money May missed fighting a lot of pugs because of all these alphabet-sanctioning organizations. They didn't want the fights.

SSR just plain ducked Black Murder Row pugs because of their toughness -- that he knew from sparring sessions -- and smallness of the purse that he was offered to dance with them. During his days, there were just two powerful alphabet-sanctioning organizations -- the NBA and the IBO. The New York Boxing Commission was a fringe one which gave SRR its crown.

I got another plane to catch, so I'm finish with this. Holla!

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The Commish:

So true.

Has Floyd Mayweather even fought in blazing, searing heat before, the way Sugar Ray Leonard and Thomas Hearns did in their first match? In that fight, they waged one of history's great battles in a ring where the temperature exceeded 120 degrees. When Mayweather fights, it's always inside a casino arena, where the temperature stays at a controlled 65 degrees.

Yes, Floyd Mayweather is great, but I shake my head with his self-promoting TBE. Yes, he's great, but he's great for this era. Welterweight Emile Griffith would have had fun with Mayweather. So would the June 20, 1980 version of Roberto Duran, as well as the man he beat that day, Sugar Ray Leonard.

Floyd Mayweather is damned good. He's good enoughto sit atop TSS'newest PxP Ratings. But all-time?

He is not, by any means, TBE!

-Randy GG.

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The Commish:

I loved those boxing trunks. They took us from the era of plain black & white trunks to a flashier era. If I'm correct, I think Hector "Macho" Camacho began a whole new era with his totally outlandish, colorful, wild designs.

Yes, the drawing depicted SRL in the black trunks he wore in the "No Mas" fight. The trunks he actually wore in the first fight against Hearns were white with a red waistband. Hearns also wore white trunks that night.

-Randy G.

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oubobcat:

I love the fight. Both guys have been in fight of the year type fights in the past and this one will be good. I like Herrera here but think we will see some very good action. Its one of those old school boxing after dark fights HBO use to have all the time and maybe just maybe they are slowly going back to those days. Hope this gets finalized.

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Radam G:

"Snoop Dogg says you gotta close the gap.



The question is who closes it? If you outgrow a motherfucka, he stays stagnant but you progress. Now it's up to him to close the gap. If you choose to close the gap and step backwards you lose.



Richard Schaefer and Al Haymon are winners. Floyd is closing that gap. (And he talks to Rich like he does Al, with respect and admiration.)



Warren Buffet is the ultimate winner. Floyd wants to close that gap.



Mark Cuban is a winner. Floyd wants to close that gap.



Once you start picking the brains of men like Buffet, a roody poo MBA from Las Vegas Chinatown KFC Busines School ain't that impressive no more, though it was initially.



I know, yes, I do.



He ain't impressed no more.



I've pointed this sh*t out all before. I think the absence of Schaefer has spoken volumes about the quality of cards.



Love Schaefer or hate him, when he put stuff together, you had value. That's just what it is.



Kevin iole wrote that this was Ellerbe's one and only shot.



Here's what happened: the undercard wasn't finalized until like five weeks prior to the show.



Think that would've happened with Schaefer? Nah. Of course not.



Schaefer -- trust me on this one -- had he not gotten into this mess, would've had Rigondeaux and Santa Cruz squaring off on that a$$.



Though they call them allies, Schaefer can actually get Haymon to match his guys and deliver super fights."




Money May and Warren Buffet are rolling, rolling rolling! And the haters are trolling, trolling, trolling. But don't hate da BIG-MONEY playas. Hate da money play and say what you say. It won't halt their play or pay. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCfeMZjc51w. Holla!

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The Shadow:

And I had no idea they would split bc Floyd is a loyal guy but I understand. Haymon is going to get Swizzy free, he'll give him a few fighters and they'll be straight, unlike LE and KB. Or something.

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The Shadow:

"I think Floyd is internalizing the pain and grief of being ground down to a pulp by the media..

..in addition to needing a scapegoat for the money teams first independent promotional venture.( a fiasco)

Floyd has fought and struggled to "do it his way and cut out the middle man" since the beginning.... This should have been his coming out party.



But they did it with a shot fighter (Angulo) and a co-main event that involved the booking of the most anti-entertaining-entity known to boxing .....Miguel Vasquez. (We won't even speak aloud about who allowed the mismatch between Santa Cruz and his former sparring partner).



They must have thought they were getting a bargain.



And the most egregious insult was booking Mayweather into a hostile interview on CNN. Where Floyd was accused, abused, and refused by the news casting giant and his video feed was cut while the newscaster lobbied the audience to boycott his PPV event right before the Maidana fight.



What a welcome!



So much for free advertising.



Also his 80 year old cut man (The legendary cut man and hand wrapping expert Garcia) was miffed because Floyd used "Do it All" Bob to wrap his hands). And has apparently flown the coup (possibly).



If you notice Ellerbe wasn't in the corner.



Change the team ....change the perception. Erase the past by disposing the baggage.



Lionel Richie left the Comadores... Diana Ross left the supremes, Beyonce left Destinies Child.

Apparently Floyd wants to make some cuts of his own and as we all know..... " $hit rolls downhill"."




Snoop Dogg says you gotta close the gap.



The question is who closes it? If you outgrow a motherfucka, he stays stagnant but you progress. Now it's up to him to close the gap. If you choose to close the gap and step backwards you lose.



Richard Schaefer and Al Haymon are winners. Floyd is closing that gap. (And he talks to Rich like he does Al, with respect and admiration.)



Warren Buffet is the ultimate winner. Floyd wants to close that gap.



Mark Cuban is a winner. Floyd wants to close that gap.



Once you start picking the brains of men like Buffet, a roody poo MBA from Las Vegas Chinatown KFC Busines School ain't that impressive no more, though it was initially.



I know, yes, I do.



He ain't impressed no more.



I've pointed this sh*t out all before. I think the absence of Schaefer has spoken volumes about the quality of cards.



Love Schaefer or hate him, when he put stuff together, you had value. That's just what it is.



Kevin iole wrote that this was Ellerbe's one and only shot.



Here's what happened: the undercard wasn't finalized until like five weeks prior to the show.



Think that would've happened with Schaefer? Nah. Of course not.



Schaefer -- trust me on this one -- had he not gotten into this mess, would've had Rigondeaux and Santa Cruz squaring off on that a$$.



Though they call them allies, Schaefer can actually get Haymon to match his guys and deliver super fights.

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Radam G:

Paul "Da Smigga" Smith is CRAZY! Hehehe! How is he gonna holla like dat? He ain't $pittin' $mack battlin.' He's puggin.' Holla!

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Radam G:

"RG is a true original. I don't always know what the hell he is talking about but it can be like looking at a painting. We may all look at the same thing but see it different ways."

Hehehehe! Cut it OUT! You are so gawdd@mn funny. That ain't right.

Laughing is suppose to be good for the soul -- BULLSPIT!

It's killing my arse. Haha! My dang sides are aching like a mutha and tourists in this P-Island restaurant are wondering what in da double fudge puck that I find so funny. Holla!

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the Roast:

Early 80's RG. That's how it was with the shorts. That SRL pic above was how he looked for the second Duran fight.

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The Shadow:

"I ain't getting into this one. But for a while I told people that Dick Schaefer was playing Big Money Oscar and was getting too "BIG for his britches" and would be "syetcanned."

Outta TMT, I have been hearing that "a lot "n*gig*shyt" is happening "with gay-@$$ Ellerbee."

You can pull up some old "Hustle Boss('$)" interviews and hear Pops Joy Mays saying: "My son is gonna get rid of Ellerbee.... Ellerbee is gay. And my son is gonna call it a day." Holla!"


I like how you keep it real. LOL. He has said that, yes.

And yes, you see that NS all the time. Most here with the exception of the Commish, Doc, BS and maybe Amayseng and Deep won't know what you mean but it is what it is.

Ben is a good dude.

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Radam G:

Dang, the Sugarman and Hitman wore some gay-arse trunks back then. Hehehe!



The superbad pugs look like they are doing a commercial for a Daisy Duke Hot panties outfit -- no hate. Hehe! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qJa7-bCUKw Holla!

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the Roast:

RG is a true original. I don't always know what the hell he is talking about but it can be like looking at a painting. We may all look at the same thing but see it different ways.

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flackoguapo:

hmmm... not looking good. Is this for real or media hype and scapegoating on part of $$May? Shadow?? where you at bro...I know you looked up some interesting, hidden gems by now lol

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the Roast:

Very well told Randy. You hit that well out of the park. As you know this fight is near and dear to my heart for many reasons. As I read I could see the corresponding scenes from the fight in my head. I've watched that fight soooo many times. I have talked about this fight many times on TSS over the years but for those of you that have come late I will repeat a few things. The above article brought up a few new memories. My first Superfight of many to come. I watche a lot of fights on network TV with my Dad but only two Superfights. Leonard-Hearns and Holmes-Cooney. My Dad passed away just six years after the Showdown. I often wonder what it would have been like to have him over to my house to watch various fights, as I came into my own as a man and all that. What might have been...
That double bill mentioned was on free TV if I remember right, probably watched it with my Dad. Leonards hands were a blur, that is very well described. I never knew or don't remember that the temperature was that high in the ring that night. Unbelievable that they were able to fight that hard for that long. Can't wait for the book!

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riverside:

I wonder is Richard Schaefer really wants to join Mayweather promotions, he see's all the chaos that attracts Money May. You got to remember he was his own Boss at golden boy, Oscar pretty much let him run the company and Schaefer did well. With Floyd in charge instructing Schaefer what to do at all moments, will not work! they'll be bumping heads from the get go. Or I can see Richard Schaefer if he ever works for Mayweather, pending golden boy's contract terminated, I can see Richard making a hard binding contract, so he is not pushed around! like today you have a job, tomorrow you don't. another issue With the Cinco de Mayo fight date up in the air for next year, looks like Money May is going to get bumped out of the MGM for that day, and Money May Knows it, I think there is more turmoil than where his daughter was seated.

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brownsugar:

This is a list I can live with.

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brownsugar:

Floyd has indeed reached an impasse on his pursuit to granduer and incalculable wealth. But he's still a big wheel in the boxing world. He's still rich and he can still fight .....and fight well.
He's accomplished more than any boxer who preceded him with the possible exception of Oscar ( financially).
I don't feel sorry for him .... He's still a "made" man... I just wonder if his empire implodes under the stress of his imperfections and he burns out in a blaze of self destructive glory... Or if he can renew and rebuild. I don't under estimate a surviver like Mayweather.

Either way the media will be keeping a close eye.... Insuring that he remains relevant for a while longer.

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SouthPawFlo:

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out

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The Commish:

Oh, here is what last month's ratings looked like:

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Andre Ward
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. Guillermo Rigondeaux
5. Gennady Golovkin
6. Wladimir Klitschko
7. Bernard Hopkins
8. Timothy Bradley
9. Juan Manuel Marquez
10. Sergey Kovalev


-Randy G.

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The Commish:

Okay, as of this post, there is just a little over 90 minutes remaining to send in your ballot for the top PxP Ratings. They are that close that YOUR ballot will make the difference.



Finish strong.



-Randy G.

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deepwater2:

Schaefer is stuck ,he is still under contract to Oscar. TsAH is going to have to give Oscar something really big to release the Swiss banker. Which fighters will tsAH allow to sign multifight deals with GBP?

Floyd's last fight failed and once Canelo heads to HBO like Hopkins ,Espinoza will be gone along with tsAH and his influence to put on tune up fights on premium cable.

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deepwater2:

Floyd has to blame someone. Ellerbe was the ultimate yes man. It's too late Floyd, admit it. It's all downhill from here.

As soon as Espinoza is fired who will tsAH tell what to do?

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amayseng:

The turtle Ellerbe is out, literally and figuratively.

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Kid Blast:

Think Schaefer.

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