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oubobcat:

"Thanks for that testimony about Joey Giardello. JG sending you that autographed photo further substantiates what I've been telling readers in this Universe for years.



The greats, close to greats and even good boxers and trainers don't have tudes against fans and/or are paranoid of them.



The wannabes are the @$$holes with da tudes. You can write letter to any of the great ones -- boxers or trainers -- and visit them in the gym. All you will get is mad luv.



Whatever happened to TSS reader Hop. He told the Universe about the mad luv that got at Mayweather.



Hey, Hop! Come back, dude. Check in! Holla!"




That is definitely true. Most boxers and trainers don't have attitudes and really appreciate when fans reach out to them.



I have another odd piece of memorabilia that means a lot to me. Back in the late 90's, I sent a quick letter to Orlin Norris requesting an autograph. I never received a response and completely forgot about it. I moved a few times since but when I sent the initial letter sent it from my parents house.



Well, a few years ago I was at my parents and my mom handed me something that came in the mail. It was from Orlin Norris. He hand wrote a letter to me apologizing for not responding sooner and thanking me for being a fan an supporter of his. He also provided some autograph items but that hand written letter is something that means much more to me from him.

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ArneK.:

I happen top believe that the movie "The Hurricane" -- more exactly the backlash to it -- hurt rather than helped Carter in the court of public opinion. Ignoring the question of Carter's innocence, the movie played loose with the facts, exceeding the bounds of artistic license.

I also believe that the backlash screwed Denzel Washington out of the Oscar for Best Actor. The award would go to Kevin Spacey for "American Beauty." There's no way that Spacey's performance was superior, at least not in my mind.

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Radam G:

Wow! Shocking that every reporter got it right. Usually their is at least one bonehead in need of a seeing dog and a _____ ____. Holla!

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oubobcat:

"A lon time ago, Angelo Dundee told me "As goes the heavyweights, so goes boxing." Well, as you pointed out, Domenic, the heavyweight division is on the brink of a mini-resurgence. The excitement that is on its way will be an infusion of excitement into the sport.

It all begins in a little under two weeks, when Wladimir Klitschko gets back into action, then continues one week later when Cris Arreola & Bermane Stiverne face each other in their rematch on ESPN, with the winner to face Big D--Deontay Wilder.

Vitali is now part of boxing history. Will Alex Leapai send little brother into retirement, too?

Very soon we'll find out a lot about the immediate future of boxing's biggest division.

-Randy G."


I think that statement from Dundee is very true. With ESPN televising the Klitshcko fight as well as Arreola-Stiverne, I am hoping we see good fights that end with a decisive KO. This then would hopefully be the start of getting the mainstream public buzzing a little bit about the heavyweight division.

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ArneK.:

I'd give the guy the benefit of the doubt and say that he merely had an off night.

By the way, in New York, I would come to learn, the scores of the judges were kept private before 1944. The ring announcer merely identified the winner and left it at that. The first fight in which the judges scores were announced was the Feb. 9, 1944 fight at Madison Square Garden between Tippy Larkin and Lulu Constantino.

The reason given for withholding the scores of the judges from the spectators was to protect their safety.

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brownsugar:

You may have something there oubobcat... Both of them are about evenly matched in the boxing skills department.

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oubobcat:

I only gave the first round to Shumenov and thought Hopkins won the rest of the rounds. I thought round two could have been debated either way and then after that it was a clear sweep for Hopkins. Stating the obvious here but the judge who scored the fight for Shumenov should never be allowed to judge a professional boxing match again.

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oubobcat:

Quillin was hurting Konecny with the left hook to the body. If he had worked that left hook to the body with more consistency, would have gotten Konecny out of there.

I really want to see the Jacobs fight happen next. But I am not sure if it will happen this soon. I think Quillin and his management team are holding out for Canelo when he moves up to 160. And I think they feel that will happen in the fall.

Think about it from this perspective. Yes a fight with Jacobs will bring a decent payday but not what a Canelo fight would bring. A fight with Jacobs fight comes with tremendous risk for less money than a potential Canelo fight and a loss to Jacobs would erase any hope in the near future of Quillin getting a big money fight.

I think Quillin is going to lay low for a little bit. He will then call out Canelo win or lose to Lara in July.

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brownsugar:

Even the Mod has had enough... Classic.

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brownsugar:

I said in an earlier post that Porter has been moved at a steady clip during his tenure in the pro ranks. Most of his fights that I witnessed were not very illuminating, ....neither did they provided much entertainment value in my opinion.

The singular most noticeable thing about watching Porter is that there was a sense he was going places. Now after several years of grinding he's finally here and fortunately for us he's saved the best for last.
Without calling out a single Manny Pacqiaou, or a Floyd Mayweather, Porter is standing on the cusp of becoming a star... A fighter everyone wants to see test every other Top Name in the welterweight division.

Its become apparent ... At least to the Porter family .....that after they complete their preparation and hold their mini-Church in the ring ... that all things are possible.
Personally I can't wait to see who this kid fights next.

Porter vs Bradley would be a tremendous action fight.

Porter vs Thurman a year from now.

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oubobcat:

"Looks like Kell Brook is up next for Mr. Porter. Should he get past Brook, I would love to see him face Adrien Broner.

-Randy G."


Brook is the mandatory and I suspect that fight happens this summer.

So lets say Porter gets by Brook and Broner easily dispatches of Molina as he should. Both Porter and Broner are from Ohio and that fight seems a natural. Being from Cleveland myself, I would love to see this fight happen at a big venue in the state (say Quicken Loans Arena) in the fall/winter. It would be nice to see big time boxing back in the state of Ohio

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The Commish:

Looks like Kell Brook is up next for Mr. Porter. Should he get past Brook, I would love to see him face Adrien Broner.



-Randy G.

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jzzy:

"Porter was always going to be too much, I just expected Paulie to reach the final bell. Just watched the fight back, it's time to hang em up. At least he's got that gig on tv.."

Paulie, you got money and a good job, it's tough to retire on a bad loss but this is an unforgiving sport, your future health is more important, make the right move
and retire now.

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brownsugar:

Danny is a way more dynamic boxer. But he is very susceptible to getting hit in the face. ... As proven in his fight with Pirog. But Quillen shouldn't be able to show Jacobs anything he hasn't seen before.

Quillens fight was almost unnecessary. The ref should have raised his hand in the dressing room and spared the audience the torture of trying to pay attention.... By the way I did catch a brief nap during the fight .... I caught Quillens closing interview (good luck with your newborn) and was brought back to life by the ferociously paced fight between Paulie and Porter.

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jzzy:

"Shawn Porter is for real. He matchedPaulie in speed & overwhelmed him in the Punching Power Dept. Got a strong feeling he will be The Man before too long.



-Randy G."




Golden Boy has is already beating the drums for Porter vs. Mayweather at some point and considering the paucity of viable opposition for Money, I'd like to

see that one. Hopefully Keith Thurman can get into the Mayweather lotto with a good performance on 4/26. Money needs at least 3 more fights after Maidana.

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brownsugar:

Shumenov is unique in that he is his own corner man... I wonder why he didn't admonish himself for his complacentcy after round 3... He should have been swearing at himself and slapping himself in the face between rounds.. " wake up Shumenov don't you want to win this"?



Instead he sat there looking satisfied..... like a bookkeeper, confident that his accounting practices would survive an audit by the IRS.



I was completely mesmerised by Bhops non engagement. I have a sleep disorder that makes it extremely difficult to reach the alpha rem sleep stage.



Thanks to Bhop I got 20 minutes of some of the deepest sleep that I've had all month.

I snapped out of it just 5 seconds before he ambushed the hypnotised challenger in the 11th round for the only knock down of the fight.



I went back to rewatch the fight and fell asleep again.... I finally saw the fight in its entirety Sunday morning. There were some intermittant moments of action as the crafty Bhop stole single digit punch stats in most of the rounds.



Good win by Bhop but hard to watch.

He's done it again.

Even though he's in a class of his own and I do like watching tactical boxing... Bhop should consider changing his name to The Amazing Kreskin2 and open his next match at Caesars Palace. Those who enjoy watching mentalists and mass hypnotizm would enjoy it.

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brownsugar:

"Yeh, Radam, it certainly was an injustice. During my years as Commissioner, I got to know Rubin Carter very well. By his own admission, he was not "an angel, not in any way." Then he'd add, "But I never killed anybody." I believed him.



Gil Clancy told me he was in Europe for a fight card involving Emile Griffith. Carter was there observing. Later, Carter came to Gil and said, "I've got to get out of here quickly." He didn't tell Gil why, and Gil was afraid to ask. Whatever it was, Clasncy said, "it wasn't good."



In the middle of the night, Clancy had Carter get on a train into Switzerland, then fly back to the U.S. from there. Around 1994, I spent several days hanging out with Carter at the International Boxing Hall of Fame weekend in Canastota, New York. I asked him about that incident. I promised him I would never say anything, no matter what it was. He looked at me and lowered his head.



"I beat up two guys pretty bad," Carter said. "I had been sparring earlier that day with one of them and we went at it pretty hard. He thought I went too hard and confronted me afterwards. I asked him if he wanted more. He said 'Any time.' We agreed to finish this argument later. He gave me a time, and I came back. The gym was closed. He had another guy with him. We took our argument into the dark alley. We finished it there. His friend jumped in when it became apparent his buddy was heading towards unconsciousness. I beat him up, too."



He left then both unconscious and bleeding in an alley. As he was leaving the alley, two guys spotted him coming from the alley, bruised and bleeding. He walked quickly out of there, but then saw the men look into the alley, where they saw the two unconscious fight guys. They started yelling. Carter ran.



Afraid to face the authorities, whom he never got along with at home, he ran. He told Clancy, who suggested he take a train to Switzerland, then fly home from there. Clancy gave Carter some money.



"I was a wild young man back then," he admitted. "But I never committed murder."



R.I.P. Rubin.



-Randy G."






Helluva story ...rest in peace Hurricane.

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The Commish:

Yeh, Radam, it certainly was an injustice. During my years as Commissioner, I got to know Rubin Carter very well. By his own admission, he was not "an angel, not in any way." Then he'd add, "But I never killed anybody." I believed him.

Gil Clancy told me he was in Europe for a fight card involving Emile Griffith. Carter was there observing. Later, Carter came to Gil and said, "I've got to get out of here quickly." He didn't tell Gil why, and Gil was afraid to ask. Whatever it was, Clasncy said, "it wasn't good."

In the middle of the night, Clancy had Carter get on a train into Switzerland, then fly back to the U.S. from there. Around 1994, I spent several days hanging out with Carter at the International Boxing Hall of Fame weekend in Canastota, New York. I asked him about that incident. I promised him I would never say anything, no matter what it was. He looked at me and lowered his head.

"I beat up two guys pretty bad," Carter said. "I had been sparring earlier that day with one of them and we went at it pretty hard. He thought I went too hard and confronted me afterwards. I asked him if he wanted more. He said 'Any time.' We agreed to finish this argument later. He gave me a time, and I came back. The gym was closed. He had another guy with him. We took our argument into the dark alley. We finished it there. His friend jumped in when it became apparent his buddy was heading towards unconsciousness. I beat him up, too."

He left then both unconscious and bleeding in an alley. As he was leaving the alley, two guys spotted him coming from the alley, bruised and bleeding. He walked quickly out of there, but then saw the men look into the alley, where they saw the two unconscious fight guys. They started yelling. Carter ran.

Afraid to face the authorities, whom he never got along with at home, he ran. He told Clancy, who suggested he take a train to Switzerland, then fly home from there. Clancy gave Carter some money.

"I was a wild young man back then," he admitted. "But I never committed murder."

R.I.P. Rubin.

-Randy G.

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mortcola:

"Another con job victory for Bernard. Why these guys play his game of pose, wait and stroll around I will never know. Make the old timer fight instead of pose and Hop gets beat. Shumenov stood there like a cobra watching the snake charmer. Throw punches! I give credit to Hopkins for controling the pace and the tempo (yawn) in winning yet another thrilling (yawn again) pose down."



No con. B-Hop masters something no one has found the answer to: when he doesn't feel like punching, he goes where the opponent can't hit him without opening wide or overcommitting, or he occupies the guys arms and arms and shoulders till he gets a break. Then, when the time is right- he lands. Dude landed almost 50 percent of those low-output shots, meaning he picked exactly the ones he knew would land. That's boxing, in its purest form - just without the adrenaline that makes it fun for most. He's a genius at it.



As for Paulie - he actually fought well, slick moves, good counter shots - he just got overpowered. Period. If Paulie were a puncher he would be an all-time great. As it is, his shots just don't hold off a powerful, determined opponent who knows how and when to throw, no matter how well he boxes.

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amayseng:

Jacobs takes that belt, no problem at all.

And Jacobs has a job commentating when he is done fighting.

God bless him

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dino da vinci:

Joe Calzaghe did and you saw the results. If that 'missile' by JC that landed below the belt was any indication, the pressure was a bit much for Mr Hopkins. To me, it spoke volumes. You need the tools to force him to engage. I fell asleep last night between rounds so I don't know if it got any better, but that's not the way to fight him. (I was exhausted, nothing to do with the bout. It didn't force me to keep my eyes round either). Force him to fight 36 minutes...heck, force anybody to fight 36 minutes, and get back to me.

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amayseng:

"I see alot of people saying that when is someone going to make Hopkins work for three rounds and I have to channel one of the oldest sayings in the book:

"If it were that easy everybody would do it"

Pascal tried to do that to Hop and gassed. You can make the same argument for several other fighters. When I look at Hop I see why no one has figured out how to press the issue:

1. You get nothing to hit. Hop flies dangerously close to turning his back to fighters. When he tucks his chin behind his shoulder you can barely see the dudes eyes and when he raises his glove to cover his face and add the covering of his body with the other arm, you are going to spend alot of time hitting nothing. On top of that, when he fires, its 1,2 and out of the pocket or tie up.

2. He still hits hard. When Hop hits you with a shot he backs you up. You rush in or try to out work him and you leave yourself open to counters which leads to three..........

3. He very rarely misses an opportunity. If you notice, every time Hop gets an opening, he is almost always able to land. The other thing about that to is he does not land grazing or wild shots. They are concise, square and flush.

I think to beat Hop you need to have major advantages in reach and speed. You would also need great head movement, good defense, and a strong mind because he is going to do his best to frustrate you. Also be willing to play a little dirty. If I am choosing, I go with Ward."




Bingo.


Hopkins is a true all time great


I plan to watch this fight about 3 times this week and take some notes.

Hopkins is a fountain of knowledge

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amayseng:

Gary Russel gets embarrassed


You cant take batting practice for 5 years then step up against Clemens and not get blown away.

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The Good Doctor:

I see alot of people saying that when is someone going to make Hopkins work for three rounds and I have to channel one of the oldest sayings in the book:

"If it were that easy everybody would do it"

Pascal tried to do that to Hop and gassed. You can make the same argument for several other fighters. When I look at Hop I see why no one has figured out how to press the issue:

1. You get nothing to hit. Hop flies dangerously close to turning his back to fighters. When he tucks his chin behind his shoulder you can barely see the dudes eyes and when he raises his glove to cover his face and add the covering of his body with the other arm, you are going to spend alot of time hitting nothing. On top of that, when he fires, its 1,2 and out of the pocket or tie up.

2. He still hits hard. When Hop hits you with a shot he backs you up. You rush in or try to out work him and you leave yourself open to counters which leads to three..........

3. He very rarely misses an opportunity. If you notice, every time Hop gets an opening, he is almost always able to land. The other thing about that to is he does not land grazing or wild shots. They are concise, square and flush.

I think to beat Hop you need to have major advantages in reach and speed. You would also need great head movement, good defense, and a strong mind because he is going to do his best to frustrate you. Also be willing to play a little dirty. If I am choosing, I go with Ward.

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The Good Doctor:

"No! No! No! That is an uppercut myth, not reality. You catch a boxer -- tall or short -- leaning forward over his footing with an uppercut. If you throw an uppercut because he is "rushing," moving or running in, he will counter over the top and knock you da double fudge out.

TAKE NOTE: This past Friday -- U.S. mainland time -- on Showtime, a heavyweight got KTFO by doing what you just mentioned.

Tricks of the trade and optical illusions are everywhere. Fighters worth their salts, trick an muthadummy into throwing an uppercut . It is the most dangerous punch in boxing to shoot. And, especially, to shoot at the right time, distance and place. About a third of the fighters who are winning the bout get knocked down or out by throwing an uppercut.

The great amateur and O-Games' gold medalist Howard Davis didn't win a world title because he was fond of uppercutting at the wrong time and would get knocked down a time or two when he had the victories rapped up. Holla!"


I am with you Radam. One of the best defenses (and there are many) I've heard and have seen many times for a guy rushing in was from Pernell Whitaker. He said if a guy rushes in, step outside of his lead foot in a bit of a crouch with chin and elbows tucked, roll your hips over and shoot a straight hand right off his ear or right under the second rib depending upon his head and hand placement. He also said that while doing this try to point the non throwing shoulder at your target so it limits area exposed to your opponent and keep your elbow tight to your side with your glove covering your face. Granted Sweet Pea was a wizard, but if you imagine it right where you are sitting it makes perfect sense.

As for an uppercut, unless you throw an absolute atom bomb of an uppercut or have a gross speed advantage, it's best use is only really in tight. The reason being is that more than any other punch, it leaves you the most exposed for a counter.

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Domenic:

"I think Quillin knew Konency didn't carry that kind of firepower, therefore he let up a bit in the defense dept. However,Quillin's jab lacked snap and his right wasn't as potent as usual. I am hoping for him that he didn't suffer a hand injury in the fight.

A Quillin v Danny Jacobs fight now looms. By the way, Jacobs did a superb job as an analyst on Showtime.

-Randy G."


Konecny was game and fought bravely, but he couldn't have hurt Quillin if he was swinging the ring post. That was clear from the get go.

No doubt, Jacobs did an excellent job in the booth. That was an outstanding telecast put forth by Showtime last night. Worth every cent of my monthly subscription.

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Skibbz:

Enjoyed reading the comments guys, especially D2. I think I'm with you Commissioner about the decision, but although it may not be the fight of the year.. It'll be a fast paced chess match when they start sparking eachother, that is worth more than anything else for me.

Why does floyd do this?

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Radam G:

"That's right. What did his dad teach this young man? Mugging a grandma is unforgivable . The shadow al Haymon should really get this guy some mental health treatment and help him become a healthy man before it gets any worse. Health is more important then money."



It's none of my business -- OOPS! IT IS! TSAH has his mind-troubling boxers a shrink on 24-7-365 duty. Thoughts of suicide is an epidemic in boxing among young, oky fighters who lose for the first or second time. (It is boksing's dirty landry. And is barely ever spoken or written heavily about publicly. Several small-circuit fighters have already committed da big S this year. And it is not half over.)



I'm not insinuating Jack or Jill about Broner. He will go up on the hill and try to hump 'em, anyway. Hehe!



I will give TSAH credit for having his stable of pugs good Obamacare mental counseling. He knows that if the fighter's head ain't right, the moolah will dry up. Holla!

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The Commish:

I think Quillin knew Konency didn't carry that kind of firepower, therefore he let up a bit in the defense dept. However,Quillin's jab lacked snap and his right wasn't as potent as usual. I am hoping for him that he didn't suffer a hand injury in the fight.

A Quillin v Danny Jacobs fight now looms. By the way, Jacobs did a superb job as an analyst on Showtime.

-Randy G.

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The Commish:

We will see Hopkins again, Deep, but we will never again see the Hopkins who beat Felix Trinidad.

-Randy G.

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Mexico’s border is a mere five minutes away from the gym where Riverside’s Chris “The Nightmare” Arreola has trained the past few weeks. It’s walking distance to the wild and crazy town filled with cantinas, restaurants and night life that can make Las Vegas seem tame. So, how many times has Arreola crossed the border? Not one time, is the answer. “He’s afraid to go to Mexico,” said welterweight contender Josesito “Riverside Rocky” Lopez on Thursday. “He says he stands out too much because he’s so big.” Instead...

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Mayweather vs. Pacquiao Is Bullet-Proof

How many things in life are actually bullet-proof? I would venture to say not many, but in sports there are a few things that really are bullet-proof and can't miss. The Super Bowl is bullet-proof. By that I mean it doesn't matter which two teams play in it, it's going to draw the biggest television audience of the year. The tickets will be more money this year than they were last year and the commercials will also be more expensive than they were for last years' game. There will be parties at residences and restaurants everywhere the day...

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Mauricio Herrera To Fight on Canelo Undercard July 12

He didn't get love on the cards, but he did from the masses. Mauricio Herrera proved to the world that his ring skills are immense, and even though champion Danny Garcia retained his 140 pound straps in Puerto Rico last month, Herrera, the Cali based boxer, didn't see his standing in the sport drop. To the contrary, fight fans and keyboard tappers are keen to see him glove up again soon. So, I reached out to Herrera, to see what is next on the docket for the 33-year-old with the 20-4 (7KOs) record. "Look out for me July 12th," he told me....

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